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Cheney's Buckshot Reader

AlterNet. Posted February 16, 2006.


Is Pam Willeford more than Cheney's hunting partner? Was Cheney boozing it up? Answers to these questions and many more.
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The saga of Dick Cheney's accidental shooting of Harry Whittington on a Texas ranch continues to unfold.

Every twist of the tale reveals more juicy details.

Here is a roundup of some of the most interesting information about the shooting that's been swirling around in the press and the blogs:

Is Pam Willeford more than Cheney's hunting partner?

Sirius Radio's Alex Bennett came out and said what many folks in the media had been whispering about but were too timid to report: Pam Willeford, the ambassador to Switzerland and Lichtenstein who was standing at Cheney's side when the shotgun went off, could be more than his hunting partner. RJ Eskew has more: "The real story is already emerging, if you're willing to do a little digging. Cheney and Whittington went hunting with two women (not their wives) …"

An AlterNet search on Cheney's ties to Pam Willeford revealed that:

  • She and her husband George have made at least two overnight visits to the Bush White House between June 2002 and December 2003.
  • She and her husband were overnight guests at Camp David on one occasion between January 2001 and December 2002.
  • Pamela hosted a reception in Davos, Switzerland, for Vice President Cheney on Jan., 23, 2004.
  • Pamela's daughter, Emily, was named deputy chief of staff to the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission in June 2005.

Was Cheney boozing it up?

Yes. Cheney told Fox News host Brit Hume that he drank beer before he went out hunting: "We'd taken a break at lunch -- go down under an old -- ancient oak tree there on the place and have a barbecue. I had a beer at lunch. After lunch we take a break, go back to ranch headquarters. Then we took about an hourlong tour of ranch, with a ranch hand driving the vehicle, looking at game. We didn't go back into the field to hunt quail until about, oh, sometime after 3 p.m." Cheney contended that no one in his hunting party had been drinking during the hunt.

Ranch host Katharine Armstrong at first denied there was any drinking going on: "No, zero, zippo, and I don't drink at all," she said. "No one was drinking." Later, Armstrong was described as saying that "no one that day was drinking, although she sa[id] there may have been beer available during a picnic lunch that preceded the incident," and quoted as saying," There may be a beer or two in there. But remember not everyone in the party was shooting." Those quotes were later scrubbed by the reporting agency, MSNBC, from its website.

According to the AP, "Gilbert San Miguel, chief deputy sheriff for Kenedy County, said his department's investigation had found that alcohol was not a factor in the shooting, but he would not elaborate about how that had been determined." But the importance of this tidbit is rather debatable, considering that San Miguel and his fellow officers didn't interview Cheney until Sunday morning, long after Cheney shot Whittington.

In his early life, Dick Cheney was convicted of two DWIs in an eight-month span.

What's Cheney's account of the shooting?

In his interview with Fox News host Brit Hume, Cheney said:

Cheney: There were three of us who had gotten out of the vehicle and walked up on a covey of quail that had been pointed by the dogs. Covey is flushed, we've shot, and each of us got a bird. Harry couldn't find his, it had gone down in some deep cover, and so he went off to look for it. The other hunter and I then turned and walked about a hundred yards in another direction …
Hume: Away from him?
Cheney: Away from him -- where another covey had been spotted by an outrider. I was on the far right …
Hume: There was just two of you then?
Cheney: Just two of us at that point. The guide or outrider between us, and of course, there's this entourage behind us, all the cars and so forth that follow me around when I'm out there -- but bird flushed and went to my right, off to the west. I turned and shot at the bird, and at that second, saw Harry standing there. Didn't know he was there …"

In the same interview, Cheney took full blame: "... I'm the guy who pulled the trigger that fired the round that hit Harry. And you can talk about all of the other conditions that existed at the time, but that's the bottom line. And there's no -- it was not Harry's fault. You can't blame anybody else. I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend."

Is the White House livid at Cheney's handling of it all?


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Where have all the (real) journalists gone?
Posted by: YogiBear on Feb 16, 2006 12:52 AM   
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Was Cheney boozing it up?

Yes. Cheney told Fox News host Brit Hume that he drank beer before he went out hunting


The actual quote: "I had a beer at lunch."

For the record, one beer drunk three hours prior to hunting is not "boozing it up." They may be lying, but until you can prove that, it's bad form to claim Cheney was "boozing it up."

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» Nice job, KF-- Posted by: immisha
mlblock
Posted by: mlblock on Feb 16, 2006 3:35 AM   
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All this schadenfreude about Cheney's little hunting mishap is making left-wingers look like gossipy twits!!! I mean...a "coverup?" Come ON! Who cares?

Let it be. There are ever so much more important fish for us to be frying. It all reflects poorly on those of us who want to focus on issues with real import, and to be associated with a party that has that focus. Let the right-wingers scurry around in the dirt. We should be above that!!!

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» RE: mlblock Posted by: DaigleD
» RE: mlblock Posted by: seefleur
» RE: mlblock Posted by: speedreader58
» RE: mlblock Posted by: kingfelix
» RE: mental block? Posted by: immisha
it is the little things...
Posted by: xenacat on Feb 16, 2006 5:26 AM   
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Cheney is guilty of many, many amoral, immoral, illegal things. So far, no one has had the guts to take him on. It may be that this shooting is the way to unravel the whole mess and bring him down. Even the majority of his own Repub gun supporters can't justify this one. He flat out shot a buddy while drinking and then tried his dead level best to cover his ass. The is an illegal act any idiot can recognize as, well, illegal and just plain wrong. Believe me, I'd rather see Dick Cheney tried for war crimes as opposed to damn near killing another useless Texas Republican, but I'll take what I can get.

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The Right Things...
Posted by: Angry Blue Planet on Feb 16, 2006 5:51 AM   
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always happen for the wrong reasons. Hey, Watergate was only a third-rate burglary.

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» If you believe that Posted by: immisha
» RE: If you believe that Posted by: JayBee
Al Gore
Posted by: mizipi on Feb 16, 2006 5:53 AM   
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Ask any neo-con this question: What do you think Rush would have done if Al Gore had accidentily shot someone?

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» RE: Al Gore Posted by: immisha
dirty minds
Posted by: constantreader on Feb 16, 2006 6:36 AM   
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I'm no fan of Dick Cheney, but I still want to cry foul at the first point in this story. Men have used the "appearance of impropriety" excuse for many years to shut female professionals out of the social outings where they cut the real deals.

Now the left resorts to gossiping like a batch of twits because Vice President Cheney and Whittington take a pair of professional acquaintances hunting. Get your minds out of the gutter, people!

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» RE: dirty minds Posted by: xenacat
» NOT JUST A HUNTER Posted by: jbetterl
» Thanks for this! Posted by: immisha
» RE: dirty minds Posted by: immisha
» RE: dirty minds Posted by: YogiBear
only cheney
Posted by: mindvsbody on Feb 16, 2006 8:27 AM   
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this would be more amusing if someone were not hurt, but cheney had broken hunting rules,(which im sure hunters break everyday anyway) and was drinking, but that probably had no effect on his shooting, he will probably in the upcoming weeks blame a faulty gun, or a faulty beer maybe? or a faulty Whittington?

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History Student
Posted by: historystudent on Feb 16, 2006 8:27 AM   
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Come on people...yes, this story is amusing, yes, Cheney screwed up and has been his usual cold self in the aftermath, but hinting around "boozing" and the possibilities of a more than friendly relationship with a colleague is just embarassing and more typical of the right wing spin machine. Let's not go there without hard facts (and even then let's remember how many of us thought such shenanigans were Clinton's personal business and not a political matter).

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» NOT JUST A HUNTER Posted by: jbetterl
» RE: History Student Posted by: jimidee
Somewhere between reported "facts" and speculation....
Posted by: mendomama on Feb 16, 2006 9:38 AM   
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....hides the truth. It may be silly, or even ridiculous, to speculate on any sexual deviation on the part of the VP, and just like I couldn't care less about Bill's bj from Monica, I couldn't care less what other politicians do with women that aren't their wives - that's between them and their wife. HOWEVER, to speculate that he may have been drinking isn't. It's common sense.

The reality is, if any other citizen was involved in a hunting accident where another person was shot, the possibility of alcohol playing a role would be one of the first things that law enforcement would attempt to rule out before deciding that it was purely an accident. It isn't an accident if you've been drinking....even if you didn't mean to do it.

The problem is, because the SS turned away the local law enforcement, we'll never know the truth about whether or not Cheney was impaired by alcohol (unless another member of the party claims a different turn of events than what was reported). To me, this is more disturbing than the late revelation in the press. To try to put off public notification is one thing...but, to avoid law enforcement 'till the next day, should be what outrages the average citizen. You can bet that if any of us accidentally shot our "friend", we'd be talking to the cops right away....as it should be....instead of a casual, take your time coming in, kind of deal.

Living in the Midwest, I know lots of people who hunt. Many of them are responsible hunters. Some of them aren't. Some of them enjoy "a beer" (or a bottle of Wild Turkey) when they go out to hunt. Just as many people enjoy "a beer" (or 12), and then get in their car to drive. A judgement flaw we already know Cheney possesses.

For me, the dead giveaway was the whole "I had a beer with lunch" line....how many times have you heard someone who's been drinking a lot, leading to some trouble with the law, try to claim they only had a beer or two, or a drink or two (usually claimed to coincide with a meal - which would lessen the impact of the alcohol), when in reality they were loaded? It's a classic, admit you had "a beer", when you may have had 12, and people are less likely to assume you were drunk than if you'd claimed there'd been no drinking at all.

So maybe he wasn't drinking. Due to the delayed meeting with law enforcement, as well as the delayed notification of the press, I tend to think he was......if the Sheriff had been able to conduct a proper investigation from the start, we might be dealing with a lot more facts, instead of so much speculation.

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woodcarver
Posted by: esromel on Feb 16, 2006 9:57 AM   
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Clear eyed and absolutely, unconditionally, without any doubt sober, cheney AKA the organ grinder, had a flashback and shot Harry, because he believed he was another attacking arab terrorist. War is hell, especially when those damned arab terrorists are under every bed, inside every closet, and even behind the shower curtain. Well maybe not behind the shower curtain. Cheney would never find one there. He would rather keep that crusty look and ward off any attacks with his own biological weapons. It also keeps his monkey at the full length of his chain, because the monkey has a sensitive nose, what little there is of it.

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Send him over!!!
Posted by: benzene on Feb 16, 2006 10:52 AM   
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Well, Cheney has certainly proven that he can fire a gun, so I say let's ship him off to Iraq to put his apparent skills to good use!

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Not Just A Hunter
Posted by: jbetterl on Feb 16, 2006 12:23 PM   
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Why are more people not pointing out that the "Oops! I'm sorry!" is not from an everyday man on the street, but one who might well in a position to push the trigger on any of up to 30,000 nuclear weapons? This is a matter of judgment and reflexes which could determine the fate of the world in a matter of seconds.

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Is Alternet a Tabloid Now?
Posted by: solesurfer on Feb 16, 2006 1:20 PM   
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Why are you speculating on the possibility of a relationship between Cheney and Willeford? Until you have any facts, leave that story for Star!

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» Amen Posted by: fifthworld
» RE: Amen Posted by: jimidee
The Conspiracy Rages on!!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Feb 16, 2006 2:09 PM   
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What a tangled web he weaves.....if this isn't the working model of the Govt , then I don't know one. If they can't own up to the fact that they lied to go to Iraq,how do we expect anyone from the whitehouse or the Cheney house to come clean. These guys are consumate Liars. They've been doing it in D.C since the 70's. These people think they are above the Law. These people feel they only have to answer to themselves and not the People. Mighty damn bold for a servant. The reason these fools get away with this crap is because they we trusted them to be good servants. They are'nt. We have handed the keys to the vault to thieves and
poultroons and they're runnung wild. It's high time we ran them out. They are not Leaders. They have usurped the Constitution and the Power of The People. You know, there's a reason why folks that try to flimflam their way over on the people are called DICK. It's because they usually are.

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ENOUGH
Posted by: fifthworld on Feb 16, 2006 3:55 PM   
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This is a distorted priority, a weapon of marginal tabloidism. Back to torture and fascism, Peak Oil, crimes against NYC, Islam and all humanity, and ecological meltdown. Ho!!

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» NOT JUST A HUNTER Posted by: jbetterl
» NOT JUST A HUNTER Posted by: jbetterl
» RE: NOT JUST A HUNTER Posted by: fifthworld
Oh Linda, Where Art Thou?
Posted by: mizipi on Feb 16, 2006 6:11 PM   
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Too bad Dick doesn't have a friend like Lida Trapp!

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What if Cheney shot your Dad?
Posted by: robchapman on Feb 16, 2006 6:35 PM   
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If my brother shot my father in hunting accident I might be able to resume talking to him after a lot of soul searching from me and apologizing from him.
If my brother in law shot my father in a hunting accident I would never forgive him and probably stop speaking to him.
If a business associate or some younger friend shot my father, it would be a struggle for me not take revenge.
How are we as citizens ever supposed to be able to look at the GOP leadership with any sort of good faith again?
If they are willing to shoot their friends, how the heck can we expect any sort of a break from them?

Robert Chapman
Lansing, New York

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» RE: What if Cheney shot your Dad? Posted by: fifthworld
Hunting
Posted by: dogwhisperer on Feb 16, 2006 7:15 PM   
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The NRA's gun safety rule No. 1: "Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction." As the NRA explains, this means: "Know your target and what is beyond. Be absolutely sure you have identified your target beyond any doubt. Equally important, be aware of the area beyond your target. This means observing your prospective area of fire before you shoot. Never fire in a direction in which there are people or any other potential for mishap. Think first. Shoot second."
In bird hunting, the rule is that you have to see sky between the horizon and the bird before you shoot.
Obviously, if you shoot a human being standing 30 yards away in the face and chest, you did not follow ANY of these rules.

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» Hmmm, not a hint of irony there Posted by: fifthworld
Hunting for Tail and Quail
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Feb 16, 2006 7:40 PM   
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So you see these two guys go Quail hunting, leave their wives home, and spend time with their girl friends. One guy is the VP the other guy is a Target. So the :gang that can't shoot straight" messes up hunting Quail and gets no Great White Hunter Tail later that night. If the VP is such a great shot let's give him an M-16, faulty body armor, and haul his ass over to Iraq.

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» Nice... Posted by: fifthworld
THIS JUST IN
Posted by: fifthworld on Feb 16, 2006 8:32 PM   
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I have evidence that Cheney's gun was personally presented to him by Washington K Street associate Michael Scanlon along with Abraham Jackoff, I'm sorry Jack Abramoff, at a Wyoming fundraiser in October 2004. The real scandal here is that Cheney was explicitly told to use the gun only when entering an Indian Reservation!

Contact me for more details.

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clinker
Posted by: cottontail on Feb 16, 2006 9:37 PM   
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I'm a hunter and I could shoot Cheney's story full of holes, no pun intended. The fact that he didn't go to the hospital with the victim tells me what a low life the veep really is.

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» RE: clinker Posted by: jimidee
I remember hunting with my father who was Cheney's age
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Feb 16, 2006 11:14 PM   
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Old men get really excited about killing things. My dad gut shoot a deer, because he was too excited to take aim properly, because he had been drinking. At the time I was truly upset with him, as he did not take the time to try to find the wounded deer. This was over 40 years ago and we were in Texas.

Now to get a hunting license in Texas you must take a gun safety course first from the state. I am sure Cheney did not do that as he is not from Texas.

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Dick Gone Bad!
Posted by: williameon on Feb 17, 2006 5:15 AM   
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Dick Gone Bad!

Out in the Wilderness
Banging
Quail
A
Dick
A
Prick
And
Two loose
Girls!
Who got blown?
Stoned?
Dick!
Shoots Lawyer
Then
Covers it up!
What
A
V.P.
Two Feet in the Grave
&
One finger on
The Trigger
Go shoot somebody!
&
See what happens!
Tell the Sheriff
To come back tomorrow!
NOW!
That’s what I call:
Reality TV.

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» Good work! Posted by: fifthworld
Ridiculous
Posted by: mindvsbody on Feb 17, 2006 8:53 AM   
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this is ridiculous, and whoever said it before was right, "we have bigger fish to fry", theres obviously everything that could be assumed and thrown around about Cheney's intentions after, maybe he didnt wanna look bad?, maybe he didnt care?, maybe it was a crazy conspiracy?,maybe it was, who knows!?, all i do know is that this ridiculous story, that is not important to us, yes a man was seriosuly inujured, and hes doing ok to recuperate which is good, but this story is ridculous, and we have more important to discuss.

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» NUCLEAR FRIED FISH Posted by: jbetterl
» RE: idiculous Posted by: jimidee
Great twist from Robert Knight, and a haiku/senryu
Posted by: fifthworld on Feb 17, 2006 9:14 AM   
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"Knight Report", heard on Flashpoints KPFA a couple days ago. A la Bob Marley, (regarding Cheney shooting) "I shot the lawyer -- but I did not shoot the deputy." Brilliant.

So it got my mind going:

More frat-house frolics
Texas 'gang bang' chasing tail
Dick turns, shoots his wad!

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Okay, one more verse piece
Posted by: fifthworld on Feb 17, 2006 9:36 AM   
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Why did this happen?

Maybe Harry had bird flu

Dick gave him bird shot

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Damn, one more
Posted by: fifthworld on Feb 17, 2006 9:44 AM   
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Not birds, shoot MOVIE!!

"Crouching Dick, Hidden Harry"

Bad V.P.! No gun!

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WHY THIS IS AN ISSUE
Posted by: rollo on Feb 17, 2006 4:18 PM   
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Okay, Cheney f*'d up and shot his buddy, maybe he was even a little tipsy. In itself it's not that big a deal. It could happen to anyone.

The issue here is, if YOU shot your friend, you would feel terrible about it too. What you COULD NOT DO is tell the police to piss off until you feel like talking to them, refuse a breathalyzer, disappear for days until you've "sorted out your feelings" and then emerge to give your side of the story as unquestionable fact. Try any of those tactics next time you get pulled over.

The point is there are laws and they apply to EVERYONE. When you break them, you are accountable. This is a big story because the Bush cabal believe they are above the law and they express it in every single thing they do, from a minor mishap to a major war. Name one incident where they did not screw up, tell lies, suppress the truth, then spin when it finally leaked out. These people ran on the slogan that "character counts" and I think by now, we've all seen enough of what kind of characters they really are.

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The Prince of Darkenss
Posted by: jimidee on Feb 20, 2006 10:47 AM   
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Once upon a time there was a rich Prince of Darkness, who was very powerful indeed. Some sayeth that he was the most powerful Prince ever in the Kingdom, and that he was even lord and master over the King. The Prince lived deep under ground so that he could be safe from all his enemies, of which he had many. So powerful was he, that he didn't live by the same laws as everybody else in the Kingdom.

One weekend, the Prince took a journey with a rich friend and two unmarried womenfolk who were NOT their wives. They went to a resort where they drove the Prince and his entourage around in a big black SUV, complete with a full cooler. Every now and then, they would all get out with their shotguns and quail would be released from cages in the bush for all to shoot. This was how rich people had fun!

After a while, they weren't doing very well at shooting, even at dumpy farm raised quail, as they were getting sloshed, but having a grand ol' time with the two unmarried womenfolk who were NOT their wives. So, they all went down to the old oak tree to a grand barbecue feast that had been prepared for them. There the spirits flowed and they made merry.

Later, they again rode in the big black SUV, stopping to shoot at the fat birds...until the Prince of Darkness accidentally peppered his rich friend in the face with his shotgun. Whoops, now what were they going to do? They were drunk, with two unmarried womenfolk who were NOT their wives, and the law of the land sayeth that all gun injuries must be reported immediately...even by the Prince.

There were many advantages for the rich in the Kingdom, but one of the finest was that they didn't have to follow the same laws as the peasants. So, the the Prince's Secret Guard whisked the injured rich friend off to a hospital and kept him under very tight security for over a day.

The Prince's Secret Guard also secluded him for nearly 24 hours, to allow the spirits to leave his blood. Only then did the Prince speak with the local Barney Fife, who declared that alcohol had played no part in the incident. Days later, the Prince of Darkness went on the Presenter of the King's News Network (they are rich...of course they had their own TV network!) and he spake to the peasants in hushed tones as only he could. The Presenter of the King's News and the Prince foxtrotted gracefully around the salient issues, and he didn't dare inquire about the two unmarried womenfolk who were NOT their wives...

And the King proclaimed, "All is good in the Kingdom!".

The question really is, what level of scrutiny would the news media be exercising right now if it had been Al Gore who had done this?

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Ridiculous, Yes and No
Posted by: LJAllen on Feb 21, 2006 3:07 AM   
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I agree that this may all be much ado about nothing. Yet there are a few questions that need to be answered as a matter of ethics and possibly legal principles.

1. What exactly was the Secret Service doing when Cheney took the shot? Of course the SS were not there to protect quail, but how do you have that many trained eyes around and have an accident like this one?

2. I can think of dozens of political policy issues that makes Cheney unfit for office, but is his health one of them? Heart patients and folks who have been treated for circulatory diseases often experience mild and periodic reductions in their cognitive and motor functions, particularly if they ventured off their medication or started eating the wrong kind of food. Didn't they have a barbeque? Is Cheney being honest about his health issues and could this be a factor?

3. How can the Sheriff's Department rule that alcohol was not involved if they didn't investigate on the day the accident occurred? Wouldn't the Sheriff/Police department be obligated by law to initiate an immediate investigation in their local jurisdiction as soon as they were made aware that an accident occurred?

4. If it is true that Bush and his staff were aware of the accident Saturday evening--but unaware of Cheney's involvement--then what was the rationale of delaying informing the President of this pertinent piece of the story until the following day?

These are just a few questions to consider.

l j allen

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Who Cares?
Posted by: klaus_in_ohio on Feb 21, 2006 11:35 AM   
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No lefty nor righty here........libertarian.
so no dog in this hunt ( evangelicals and welfare mothers make me equally ill....).
But give it a break , folks.
ITS NO BIG DEAL.
if he is fucking some other broad, oh well..his business.
he shoots his buddy upland bird hunting, oh well..his business.

it reeks of the same stuff about teddy and the bridge....the right crucifies the man.
But it is his business.
You people need hobbies.

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A reputation for shooting lawyers
Posted by: Artkansas on Feb 21, 2006 8:15 PM   
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Should scare Congress into line.

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