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This scene could have taken place in Louisiana or Texas, Minnesota or California, but in fact occurred in Suva, the capital of the Fiji Islands, a few weeks ago. The Benny Hinn Miracle Crusade lasted three days and drew an estimated 180,000 people on the final day, an impressive feat in a nation where the population hovers just under 1 million. The Fiji national television news showed the prime minister, Laisenia Qarase, and the acting president, Ratu Joni Madraiwiwi, as well as other parliamentarians, in attendance.
Progressives in the United States are increasingly concerned with the influence of evangelical Christianity in American politics. They may not realize, however, to what extent American-style evangelism and conservative Christianity is spreading, particularly to developing nations. Nor are they aware how this may affect politics in these countries.
Of course, American evangelists and missionaries traveling to developing nations to proselytize is not new. My father used to regale me with his imitations of evangelists who came to the Costa Rican town where he served as a Peace Corps volunteer in the early 1970s. Holding a Bible in one hand and the other hand aloft, my dad would lower his eyebrows and proclaim in gringo-accented Spanish, "Cristo … es la ultima … esperanzaaaa." (Christ is the final hope.) When we returned to his town 20 years later, many families had nailed plaques above their doors identifying their faith and asking that all visitors respect their beliefs.
What is new is the scale of evangelist enterprises, from Christian television channels broadcasting evangelical programming (Fiji has one channel devoted to such programming) to huge, stadium-sized revivals. Such events require a working relationship with the government. Hinn requested and received F$80,000 (nearly U.S.$46,000) for security for himself and his entourage.
In exchange for taxpayer dollars, Hinn's Miracle Crusade offered economic incentives to the Fiji government in the form of increased sales for local businesses as well as long-term gains from Christians in the United States and other developed nations who may seek "Christian destinations" for their next vacation. (Ironically, one of the businesses that benefited the most from Hinn's crusade was McDonald's, located a few blocks from the stadium.) Before the crusade began, Prime Minister Qarase met privately with Hinn, and one rival politician hinted that Qarase may have asked for divine assistance with elections later this year. Hinn was so pleased with the success of the crusade that he promised the audience to return in June.
Hinn is not actively political in the way that Pat Robertson or Franklin Graham (son of Billy Graham) are, but as fundamentalist Christians, they share -- and promulgate -- a conservative agenda. Hinn's ministry offers for sale books and videos by Robertson and other Christian conservatives. As their words travel through the internet, television broadcasts and stadium revivals, their views may have a direct influence on Fijian public policy.
One of the questions before the government is whether or not to criminalize sodomy and remove a clause in the constitution that protects gay people from discrimination in Fiji. The debate has been heated, with the Methodist church (the largest Christian denomination in Fiji) coming out strongly in favor of criminalization. The Catholic Church has opposed calls to criminalize homosexuality, and other Christian theologians have criticized the Methodist church's anti-gay campaign. Even the Fiji Times newspaper ran an editorial urging the Methodists to give up their fight to hold an anti-gay march.
On Jan. 8, the Fiji Times published a two-page spread entitled "Human shortcomings of God's perfect standards" in order to "revisit the discussion of homosexuality from the perspective of the meaning of Christmas." In it, the newspaper presented views from Fijian religious leaders, including Terry Bates, a missionary from Texas (no denomination specified), and all concurred that homosexuality goes against God's will. In a featured pull quote, Bates stated that "[in] the Bible … homosexuality … is mentioned along with sexual immorality, idolatry, prostitution, thievery, greediness, drunkenness, slanderers (gossiping), swindlers and many other behaviours that are displeasing to God."
Bates and other clergy decried the language of "rights" that currently shields homosexuals from discrimination, arguing that "individual rights" should not supercede the good of the community (which presumably requires a homosexual-free environment). Their words echo the arguments of Christian conservatives in the United States, who attack gay rights as "special rights." Bates suggested that Fiji citizens "compare themselves realistically with countries that have released their traditional perspectives of moral and ethical behavior" and have gone "down the road … toward their own destruction." He offered East Los Angeles as an example of moral destruction and individual rights gone amok.
Fortunately, Fiji citizens do not passively accept these views as the last word on Christian morals but engage in active dialogue about them. In the wake of Hinn's Miracle Crusade, they questioned every aspect, from the legitimacy of Hinn's healing powers to the legitimacy of his claim on their tax dollars. Likewise, letter writers to the Fiji Times have countered religious arguments against homosexuality on both scriptural and secular, civic grounds.
Nevertheless, the international market for evangelism is booming. Regarding a crusade in Manila, Hinn asserted, "It's a new day for evangelism! God is doing a new work. More than ever before, international crusades such as this one in the Philippines are becoming a major focus as our ministry and our precious partners join together to fulfill the Great Commission during these historic days."
As progressives consider ways to counter the messages of the Christian right, we need to widen our lens. Their ambitions reach far beyond our nation's borders.
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Posted by: CatDad on Feb 7, 2006 12:38 AM
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American Christianity has turned Jesus into a mere logo and basically gives lip service to his core teachers of social justice...rather, it just makes him the focus of bizarre blood sacrifice rituals (communion) while focusing on the harsher, male heterosexist message of the apostles...especially Paul.
Oh Third World...you'll find salvation through Chavez rather than through Americanized, profit-centered Christianity!
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He taught that we as men are not in a position to judge anyone else. We are not God and cannot see what is in a man's heart. Only God can judge, no one else. Even sinners were visited by Jesus. Remember when the pharisees raged at Jesus for dining with a group of sinners and Jesus response was "who else would a doctor visit but the sick?" In other words, if you wish to save a sinner, who else would you visit but the sinner?
Finally, Jesus made it clear through Johns letters that the greatest commandment of them all was to Love God, but the 2nd greatest commandment was to love your neighbor as you love God.
I see none of these in the preachings of these so called Christian preachers. If anything I see hate, fear and non love taught with serious attacks against those sinners (per the definition of sin by MAN). No man is God and no man can see what is in anothers heart. Only God can do that.
I resent these people distorting the teachings of such a Great and Loving man as Jesus was. Its a perversion of Christianity that is occuring that is spreading and reminds me of warnings John made in Revelations where he says, Satan is the great deceiver and he shall deceive many of the "elect" (believers) and there shall be few who will be saved.
It appears that is becoming the case here. You can see it in the support of Fundamentalists and other Christians for actually NUKING IRAN. How could any Christian support such a horror against little children and innocent people??? I never once read where Jesus said to kill those who do not believe. That is between God and each person.
This world would be a totally different place if the Christians would follow Jesus teachings instead of their own perverted, greedy and psychopathic leaders.
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This aspect of Bush’s nature is deeply buried in his own psyche under a mountain of self-loathing and insecurity. Not unlike many gay men in our society his political and physical survival depends on the suppression of this reality.
The Bush Administration’s inner circle shares with Hitler’s Nazi leadership a very influential cadre of closeted gay men. The Nazi’s mass murder of gay men was partly an attempt to kill the demons they felt lurked in their own minds. The electoral exploitation of homophobia by the Bush Administration serves much the same purpose.
George Bush deeply despises women as weaklings and seeks gratification by dominating other men. He gravitates toward sexless females in the mold of Condi Rice, Harriet Myers, and Karen Hughes and surrounds himself with submissive male advisors and aides. These are the men who fear to bring real world news to him, men who will remain loyal despite being berated or humiliated before others, men like Karl Rove who will answer to the name “Turd Blossom” without protest. It is in this atmosphere that a James Guckert a.k.a. Jeff Gannon naturally appears in the press corps as a Helen Thomas is pushed aside.
The President is freest to express himself during bike rides with Lance Armstrong or driving martial artist Vladimir Putin around the ranch in Crawford. To do the same with the newly elected presidents of Chile or Liberia would be awkward. Clearly though, the happiest moment of the Bush presidency came on May 2, 2002. After training in the White House pool for the danger of an accidental ocean landing, recall the radiantly happy man dressed in an airman’s flight suit with the oversized codpiece that landed on the USS Lincoln to declare the Iraq War won. The Village People get the same rush out of performing in their costumes.
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Neuroscience is the answer, oh yes, all bow down to the great god of psychopharmacology!! What a load of crap. You got a pill for the despair borne of empty greed and materialism? Which one do you prescribe, Dr.? Prozac? Oh yeah, forgot, that one causes suicide. How about Lithium... nope, kidney failure. What other numbing, haze inducing garbage have you got for us? ANYTHING but faith, anything. Because you just can't deal with the idea that there is something bigger and more intelligent than a human.
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Does the message sell well? It sure does. Anyone preaching love and peace would die starving.
Look no further than the mentionned Evangelicals to find the real terrorists in the world. Look what a moderate flavor of them can achieve when they land in the White House. Paranoid delusions of grandeur with a twist of cold blooded murder is the watered down version we have to live with.
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Ok...enough ranting.
Please keep your "religion" to yourself. I don't want to hear from you until you open your churches to the homeless. But that won't happen...it might be something Christ would do but what would the neighbors think???
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His hatred of homosexuals has consumed him, and no longer content with picketing the funerals of gay men, he is now also picketing the funerals of our servicemembers killed in Iraq.
If you want to see religious hatred that is beyond belief, his websites www.godhatesamerica.com and www.godhatesfags.com will certainly be an eye-opener. I don't know how he finds followers, but he does. He is an abomination far greater than the "sin" against which he rails!
Will he be the next to go to Fiji???
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American Christianity has turned Jesus into a mere logo and basically gives lip service to his core teachers of social justice...rather, it just makes him the focus of bizarre blood sacrifice rituals (communion) while focusing on the harsher, male heterosexist message of the apostles...especially Paul.
Oh Third World...you'll find salvation through Chavez rather than through Americanized, profit-centered Christianity!
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He taught that we as men are not in a position to judge anyone else. We are not God and cannot see what is in a man's heart. Only God can judge, no one else. Even sinners were visited by Jesus. Remember when the pharisees raged at Jesus for dining with a group of sinners and Jesus response was "who else would a doctor visit but the sick?" In other words, if you wish to save a sinner, who else would you visit but the sinner?
Finally, Jesus made it clear through Johns letters that the greatest commandment of them all was to Love God, but the 2nd greatest commandment was to love your neighbor as you love God.
I see none of these in the preachings of these so called Christian preachers. If anything I see hate, fear and non love taught with serious attacks against those sinners (per the definition of sin by MAN). No man is God and no man can see what is in anothers heart. Only God can do that.
I resent these people distorting the teachings of such a Great and Loving man as Jesus was. Its a perversion of Christianity that is occuring that is spreading and reminds me of warnings John made in Revelations where he says, Satan is the great deceiver and he shall deceive many of the "elect" (believers) and there shall be few who will be saved.
It appears that is becoming the case here. You can see it in the support of Fundamentalists and other Christians for actually NUKING IRAN. How could any Christian support such a horror against little children and innocent people??? I never once read where Jesus said to kill those who do not believe. That is between God and each person.
This world would be a totally different place if the Christians would follow Jesus teachings instead of their own perverted, greedy and psychopathic leaders.
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Here are 2 Progressive Christian groups already in action:
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This aspect of Bush’s nature is deeply buried in his own psyche under a mountain of self-loathing and insecurity. Not unlike many gay men in our society his political and physical survival depends on the suppression of this reality.
The Bush Administration’s inner circle shares with Hitler’s Nazi leadership a very influential cadre of closeted gay men. The Nazi’s mass murder of gay men was partly an attempt to kill the demons they felt lurked in their own minds. The electoral exploitation of homophobia by the Bush Administration serves much the same purpose.
George Bush deeply despises women as weaklings and seeks gratification by dominating other men. He gravitates toward sexless females in the mold of Condi Rice, Harriet Myers, and Karen Hughes and surrounds himself with submissive male advisors and aides. These are the men who fear to bring real world news to him, men who will remain loyal despite being berated or humiliated before others, men like Karl Rove who will answer to the name “Turd Blossom” without protest. It is in this atmosphere that a James Guckert a.k.a. Jeff Gannon naturally appears in the press corps as a Helen Thomas is pushed aside.
The President is freest to express himself during bike rides with Lance Armstrong or driving martial artist Vladimir Putin around the ranch in Crawford. To do the same with the newly elected presidents of Chile or Liberia would be awkward. Clearly though, the happiest moment of the Bush presidency came on May 2, 2002. After training in the White House pool for the danger of an accidental ocean landing, recall the radiantly happy man dressed in an airman’s flight suit with the oversized codpiece that landed on the USS Lincoln to declare the Iraq War won. The Village People get the same rush out of performing in their costumes.
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Neuroscience is the answer, oh yes, all bow down to the great god of psychopharmacology!! What a load of crap. You got a pill for the despair borne of empty greed and materialism? Which one do you prescribe, Dr.? Prozac? Oh yeah, forgot, that one causes suicide. How about Lithium... nope, kidney failure. What other numbing, haze inducing garbage have you got for us? ANYTHING but faith, anything. Because you just can't deal with the idea that there is something bigger and more intelligent than a human.
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Does the message sell well? It sure does. Anyone preaching love and peace would die starving.
Look no further than the mentionned Evangelicals to find the real terrorists in the world. Look what a moderate flavor of them can achieve when they land in the White House. Paranoid delusions of grandeur with a twist of cold blooded murder is the watered down version we have to live with.
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Ok...enough ranting.
Please keep your "religion" to yourself. I don't want to hear from you until you open your churches to the homeless. But that won't happen...it might be something Christ would do but what would the neighbors think???
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Posted by: phatkhat on Feb 7, 2006 9:20 PM
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His hatred of homosexuals has consumed him, and no longer content with picketing the funerals of gay men, he is now also picketing the funerals of our servicemembers killed in Iraq.
If you want to see religious hatred that is beyond belief, his websites www.godhatesamerica.com and www.godhatesfags.com will certainly be an eye-opener. I don't know how he finds followers, but he does. He is an abomination far greater than the "sin" against which he rails!
Will he be the next to go to Fiji???
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Posted by: famouspipeliner on Feb 7, 2006 10:34 PM
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