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The Fear That Kills

By Marjorie Cohn, TruthOut.org. Posted January 31, 2006.


Appalling new evidence reveals that female soldiers serving in Iraq made fatal decisions in their attempts to avoid rape.

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In a startling revelation, the former commander of Abu Ghraib prison testified that Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, former senior U.S. military commander in Iraq, gave orders to cover up the cause of death for some female American soldiers serving in Iraq.

Last week, Col. Janis Karpinski told a panel of judges at the Commission of Inquiry for Crimes against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration in New York that several women had died of dehydration because they refused to drink liquids late in the day. They were afraid of being assaulted or even raped by male soldiers if they had to use the women's latrine after dark.

The latrine for female soldiers at Camp Victory wasn't located near their barracks, so they had to go outside if they needed to use the bathroom. "There were no lights near any of their facilities, so women were doubly easy targets in the dark of the night," Karpinski told retired U.S. Army Col. David Hackworth in a September 2004 interview.

It was there that male soldiers assaulted and raped women soldiers. So the women took matters into their own hands. They didn't drink in the late afternoon so they wouldn't have to urinate at night. They didn't get raped. But some died of dehydration in the desert heat, Karpinski said.

Karpinski testified that a surgeon for the coalition's joint task force said in a briefing that "women in fear of getting up in the hours of darkness to go out to the port-a-lets or the latrines were not drinking liquids after 3 or 4 in the afternoon, and in 120 degree heat or warmer, because there was no air-conditioning at most of the facilities, they were dying from dehydration in their sleep."

"And rather than make everybody aware of that -- because that's shocking, and as a leader if that's not shocking to you, then you're not much of a leader -- what they told the surgeon to do is don't brief those details anymore. And don't say specifically that they're women. You can provide that in a written report, but don't brief it in the open anymore."

For example, Maj. Gen. Walter Wojdakowski, Sanchez's top deputy in Iraq, saw "dehydration" listed as the cause of death on the death certificate of a female master sergeant in September 2003. Under orders from Sanchez, he directed that the cause of death no longer be listed, Karpinski stated. The official explanation for this was to protect the women's privacy rights.

Sanchez's attitude was: "The women asked to be here, so now let them take what comes with the territory," Karpinski quoted him as saying. Karpinski told me that Sanchez, who was her boss, was very sensitive to the political ramifications of everything he did. She thinks it likely that when the information about the cause of these women's deaths was passed to the Pentagon, Donald Rumsfeld ordered that the details not be released. "That's how Rumsfeld works," she said.

"It was out of control," Karpinski told a group of students at Thomas Jefferson School of Law last October. There was an 800 number women could use to report sexual assaults. But no one had a phone, she added. And no one answered that number, which was based in the United States. Any woman who successfully connected to it would get a recording. Even after more than 83 incidents were reported during a six-month period in Iraq and Kuwait, the 24-hour rape hot line was still answered by a machine that told callers to leave a message.

"There were countless such situations all over the theater of operations -- Iraq and Kuwait -- because female soldiers didn't have a voice, individually or collectively," Karpinski told Hackworth. "Even as a general, I didn't have a voice with Sanchez, so I know what the soldiers were facing. Sanchez did not want to hear about female soldier requirements and/or issues."

Karpinski was the highest officer reprimanded for the Abu Ghraib torture scandal, although the details of interrogations were carefully hidden from her. Demoted from brigadier general to colonel, Karpinski feels she was chosen as a scapegoat because she was a female.

Sexual assault in the U.S. military has become a hot topic in the last few years, "not just because of the high number of rapes and other assaults, but also because of the tendency to cover up assaults and to harass or retaliate against women who report assaults," according to Kathy Gilberd, co-chair of the National Lawyers Guild's Military Law Task Force. This problem has become so acute that the Army has set up its own sexual assault web site.

In February 2004, Rumsfeld directed the under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness to undertake a 90-day review of sexual assault policies. "Sexual assault will not be tolerated in the Department of Defense," Rumsfeld declared.

The 99-page report was issued in April 2004. It affirmed, "The chain of command is responsible for ensuring that policies and practices regarding crime prevention and security are in place for the safety of service members." The rates of reported alleged sexual assault were 69.1 and 70.0 per 100,000 uniformed service members in 2002 and 2003. Yet those rates were not directly comparable to rates reported by the Department of Justice, due to substantial differences in the definition of sexual assault.

Notably, the report found that low sociocultural power (i.e., age, education, race/ethnicity, marital status) and low organizational power (i.e., pay grade and years of active duty service) were associated with an increased likelihood of both sexual assault and sexual harassment.

The Department of Defense announced a new policy on sexual assault prevention and response on Jan. 3, 2005. It was a reaction to media reports and public outrage about sexual assaults against women in the U.S. military in Iraq and Afghanistan, and ongoing sexual assaults and cover-ups at the Air Force Academy in Colorado, Gilberd said. As a result, Congress demanded that the military review the problem, and the Defense Authorization Act of 2005 required a new policy be put in place by January 1.

The policy is a series of very brief "directive-type memoranda" for the secretaries of the military services from the under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness. "Overall, the policy emphasizes that sexual assault harms military readiness, that education about sexual assault policy needs to be increased and repeated, and that improvements in response to sexual assaults are necessary to make victims more willing to report assaults," Gilberd notes. "Unfortunately," she added, "analysis of the issues is shallow, and the plans for addressing them are limited."

Commands can reject the complaints if they decide they aren't credible, and there is limited protection against retaliation against the women who come forward, according to Gilberd. "People who report assaults still face command disbelief, illegal efforts to protect the assaulters, informal harassment from assaulters, their friends or the command itself," she said.

But most shameful is Sanchez's cover-up of the dehydration deaths of women that occurred in Iraq. Sanchez is no stranger to outrageous military orders. He was heavily involved in the torture scandal that surfaced at Abu Ghraib. Sanchez approved the use of unmuzzled dogs and the insertion of prisoners head first into sleeping bags, after which they were tied with an electrical cord, and their mouths were covered. At least one person died as the result of the sleeping bag technique. Karpinski charges that Sanchez attempted to hide the torture after the hideous photographs became public.

Sanchez reportedly plans to retire soon, according to an article in the International Herald Tribune earlier this month. But Rumsfeld recently considered elevating the three-star general to a four-star. The Tribune also reported that Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks, the Army's chief spokesman, said in an email message, "The Army leaders do have confidence in LTG Sanchez."

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Belefonte??????????
Posted by: pg on Jan 31, 2006 9:25 AM   
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"Participants included Harry Belefonte"

You dilute the crdibility of a very serious issue facing women in the military with your link.

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» Ain't that too bad ! Posted by: AdamSelene11726
» Ad hominem fallacy Posted by: Michaelmammal
Shocked and Awed
Posted by: SBK on Jan 31, 2006 9:32 AM   
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The women who “give their lives for freedom” deserve more than this! How horrible is it that once women are let into the military to fight alongside their brothers it's not the enemy they have to worry about, but their own soldiers. The root of this problem is rampant lack of self-esteem made worse by a culture of violence. Most young poor military men need to control someone so they prey on easy victims. Why don’t the older men in command take care of their soldiers like they are paid to do? They always say they "would never forsake the safety of their men", yet they look the other way on something as fundamental as being able to go to the bathroom, and then they hide it from the cause of death reports!? How dare you disregard suffering perpetrated by another soldier? It should be subject to the same laws we have here! Our military is just as sexist as it has always been. I want my tax dollars back!

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» RE: Shocked and Awed Posted by: bayway35
» Me too! Posted by: eastcoker
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» RE: Shocked and Awed Posted by: Doubtom
Are we supposed to be surprised?
Posted by: BuckFush on Jan 31, 2006 9:55 AM   
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How callous and numb have we become to the horrors of life under the watchful eye of the Bush Administration?

We are numb to the images that run all over the 24-hour news networks. The indescriminant carpet bombs, the helicopters that spray machiene gun fire, dead bodies of the resistance, mutilated women and children, pictures of torture...the list goes on a lot further than most Americans care to read.

We are numb to the truly in-human horrors our soldiers face everyday in the occupied regions of the middle east. We are numb to the fact that our soldiers lives are nothing but cannon fodder to the war mongering, corporatized politicians who choose to line the pockets of the corrupt, rather than stock our soldier's footlockers with adequate body armour. We are numb to the POTUS's Jeckle/Hyde persona when it comes to the soldiers. He talks up the soldiers importance when he's on the world's center stage, but quietly he cuts their wages and benefits while off stage. He continues to claim morale among the troops remains high, yet he [or they] continually denigrate the hopes of each and every soldier stationed in the occupied territories by enacting the stop-loss program. We are numb to that as well.

Why then, are we not surprised that the military treats all women as a sub species, by refusing to protect its own from its own? I wish I were surprised, there definately is something blissful about ignorance. Thankfully I am not.

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ilxixiixs
Posted by: mbradfo31 on Jan 31, 2006 10:20 AM   
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I think this is a bunch of bull****. They all carry guns and makes the story pretty much just a story.

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Second sadness.
Posted by: situationgirl on Jan 31, 2006 10:22 AM   
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Alito is confirmed, and this is the second news article I read for today.

Of course, these service women deserve better. All women must prepare to uphold thier rights on an individual basis, because I fear that someday we will have none.

Call me a reactionary, call me crazy. I don't care. It's better to have and not need than need and not have.

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» You are absolutely right! Posted by: eastcoker
Sanchez is an idiot
Posted by: kww355 on Jan 31, 2006 10:22 AM   
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Next, he will say it's because the women are provocatively dressed in that sexy camo. 2006-the Bush administration begins issuing burkhas to all of our female soldiers. 2007-Justice Alito decides it's a good idea to require ALL American women to wear one. "Support our troops-wear a burkha. If you don't, you're not a patriotic American."

Welcome to the good old USA-where men are men and women are expendable chattel.

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» RE: Sanchez is an idiot Posted by: bayway35
» RE: Sanchez is an idiot Posted by: sln70
» RE: Sanchez is an idiot Posted by: ajax
puzzled
Posted by: janten on Jan 31, 2006 11:36 AM   
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I've always been under the impression that our military personnel are supposed to protect our country and its citizens. That's their duty, isn't it? And are not our military personnel, men and women alike, citizens of the USA? And should it matter whether fellow citizens are inside or outside the borders of the USA, or at war or at peace?

Seems to me that the duty of every military person is, in part, to protect every other person in the military. Rape does not fall under the category of protection. So why aren't our military people taught this very basic aspect of service? From basic training on up it ought to be drilled into them. And everyone in the service ought to help monitor and police the situation, everywhere, at all times.

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Hmmmmm.
Posted by: morticia on Jan 31, 2006 12:28 PM   
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This seems kind of bogus. I hate Bush, hate the war, hate it all, but there is such a thing as a chamberpot. A coffee can works fine.

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» RE: Hmmmmm. Posted by: mishanti2
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Duh!!!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jan 31, 2006 12:34 PM   
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Female on the front line are at risk. That's why they were never there in the first place. Not that women can't be effective Warriors,they definatly can, but MEN display some of their worst charactoristics in combat zones.
Sometimes in combat zones there's a shift in the thinking of some troops. After days of killing and debochery your mind begins to believe certain things are OK to do. Unfortunately,
rape and molestation are some of those things. Mainly because we don't do deep enough psychological screens on enlistees. But sometimes even the most stable of folks willsnap when the pressure to great.
This is yet another reason why War is the Refuge of Idiots.
The People Over Tyrants Party is for 'Waging Peace'. Forming binding pacts of 'Non-Aggression' with all Nations. The complete disarming of all offensive capability and the ending of Arms development and World sales. These are directions we as a people and a World should be going in.
The women, and men, that have been raped or molested or sexually tormented should be immeadiatly removed from the theater of operations,given Honorable Discharges with 100% disability. Then stop making war!!!

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» RE: Duh!!! Posted by: sln70
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Something fishy here
Posted by: rollo on Jan 31, 2006 12:35 PM   
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I have no doubt that serious atrocities are being committed, because just look who's in charge. But something doesn't add up. The idea that people are allowing themselves to die because they are afraid to go pee? Military people are resourceful. You keep a container under your bed and empty it in the morning. Makes more sense than taking a long walk in the middle of the night anyway. Plus, you do have a weapon, as someone here pointed out. And is our military so full of craven and cowardly people that they are assaulting EACH OTHER the minute the lights go out? Christ, I'd like to believe not. Something not right about this story.

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» RE: Something fishy here Posted by: Loopylafae
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» RE: Something fishy here Posted by: rollo
framing distortions with labels
Posted by: gladwyn on Jan 31, 2006 1:10 PM   
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Rapes are framed as dehydration.
Colin Powell framed WMDs as aluminum tubes.
Swift boat veterans for truth framed Kerry as a coward who used influence to get his medals.
Our mayor did a backroom deal with developers for $15M and framed it as moving the triggers on the job housing ratio.
Turd Blossom is one busy fellow

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Where are the leaders?
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Jan 31, 2006 3:19 PM   
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This is an intolerable failure in leadership It should have been obvious to anyone, male or female, that the arrangement of facilities was wrong. This ranks in stupidity with the lack of adequate armor earlier.

The point is not whether any were assaulted or harassed. These soldiers were uneasy, their non-coms should have fought for them.

The first duty of non-coms and officers is to the well being of the troops under their command. There is no way to get stronger loyalty from your troops than to fight your superiors on their behalf. Where are the leaders?

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» RE: Where are the leaders? Posted by: stopthebushies
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Gellero
Posted by: gellero on Jan 31, 2006 4:27 PM   
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Oh, come on now. Anyone who buys into this needs to have his/her head examined. Soldiers, afraid to pee, armed with grenades and M16's in their barracks surrounded by concertina wire, armed sentrys, and fortifications?? If that's the case, women should not be at the front. But then again, they volunteered to do it, it's what they signed up for. We've had 2000 dead. There were 3000 at the World Trade Center. So what if Sadaam didn't do it, or have WMD. Lybia gave up its nuclear program after we went into Iraq. That alone makes it worth it. Kadaffi didn't want to be next. He didn't sponsor any more bombings after our jets bombed his residence and killed his daughter. Let the world think America is a loose cannon. It will be centuries before any government sponsors terrorism against us, or tolerates and supports the likes of Osama. They need to believe we will destroy them and their families if they do. I think the Pres. believed the Iraqis were more democratic and civilized, and could get their democratic act together. But they can't, and won't, because the masses are still in the 10th century. I've been to that part of the world and have seen it first hand. See for yourself.....your opinion will change. American hegemony is what keeps you in front of your cheap computer, wearing your Chinese made designer clothes, staring at your Chinese made LCD. Quit bitching. Rule mercifully.

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» RE: Gellero Posted by: stopthebushies
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Rape in the military?
Posted by: stopthebushies on Jan 31, 2006 5:53 PM   
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People being raped by solders goes back a long way, it is nothing new. When the US military was all men it happened! check your history, but it was rare that solders at that time would come forward because of the stigma, beleive me if you are a woman jumped by a group of masked fellow (men) solders a lot bigger and stronger than you and they tell you they will kill you if you tell anyone, you will think twice. I guaranty you this does happen, maybe you can take care of yourself but you are way out numbered in the military as a women and a lot of men don't like the idea that women are allowed in at all. That the US military allowed women in they have a responsibility to make sure this does not happen! which they where fully aware of before women where excepted.
War brings out the worst in all and should be abolished, but if you do go expect the worst.

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» Intellectual rape Posted by: eastcoker
» RE: ape in the military? Posted by: sisterbluerose
Where were the surveillance cameras
Posted by: WhatNow? on Jan 31, 2006 6:02 PM   
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on these bases? Considering the government's penchant for spying, why would there not be video evidence of the alleged abuses? I guess it's another caes of the bush nazis getting it wrong once again.

All the "men" that did or would do such things ought to get the unarmored vehicles and the most dangerous missions and never allowed near a woman while in the army.

Thanks george for bringing more honor to our sorry ass country!

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Perspective
Posted by: GaiusObvious on Jan 31, 2006 10:49 PM   
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- 4% of all female soldiers said they had been the victim of a completed or attempted rape or sexual assault during their military service.

- 25% of college women reported being victims of rape or attempted rape.

Source

Women are at a far, far higher risk of being raped while away at college in the United States than they are in the military in Iraq. More than six times more likey.

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I Don't Care
Posted by: stormchilde1975 on Feb 1, 2006 5:59 AM   
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I don't care whose fault it is. I don't care what could have been done to prevent it. I don't care how people feel about whether women and men should be stationed together. I definitely don't care about anybody's "natural urges". What a crock. Here is a fact I defy you to dispute:

Rape is evil.

Are we seriously tolerating this crap? Those soldiers are OUR soldiers. OUR women are being raped, and OUR men are doing it. Our soldiers are DYING out of fear of their fellow soldiers. We certainly have the power to stop it, and instead it is being ignored. How about this: make rape charge reporting outside the chain of command easy. Have investigations done by JAG. And if someone is convicted of raping a fellow soldier, it's treason - what else can you call it when a soldier undermines his own unit's effectiveness during war?

I can't believe anyone is trying to nuance this or parcel out responsibility. Rape is evil. It ought not happen ever, and it certainly shouldn't be tolerated and excused.

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» RE: I Don't Care Posted by: Basenjis
Dean
Posted by: Dean Cascio on Feb 1, 2006 11:20 AM   
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The social experiment of allowing women into the military was a bad idea from the start. Now this report reaffirms the fact that women should not be in the military. Remove the women problem solve.
Dean

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You Dopes
Posted by: JulisKnipl on Feb 1, 2006 11:32 AM   
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Anyone who believes this to be a true story should be sterilized so they cannot pass on the stupid gene . Let's see a group of heavily armed women who are trained to kill will not take a drink because there is no concieable way that they can safely relieve themselves. Sounds right to me .

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» RE: You Dopes Posted by: texshelters
Unfathomable
Posted by: hhartman on Feb 1, 2006 2:58 PM   
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A lot of these posts are disturbing, I am not sure whether they are being sarcastic or actually justifying rape. Not only rape is high among enlisted female soldiers, but the incidence of domestic violence is high among married couples where one or more spouse is enlisted. I also believe that they have high rates of spousal murder (husband to wife). I cannot understand how people can deny that this is happening. It is rediculous in this day in age that 1 in 4 American women will be raped or sexually assualted in their lifetime. There is something wrong in the culture of the military that they fail to stand up and change the culture in the military. As to the Marine who keeps posting, don't think that your comrades aren't raping people women just because they aren't any women in marine combat. I believe that there is well documented rapes near the Marine base on Okinawa, Japan...

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Why do you believe this??
Posted by: gellero on Feb 1, 2006 7:53 PM   
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No one here has come up with any facts. You are all brain dead....just like the third world masses who believe the propaganda foisted upon them, then riot and kill each other for nothing. The feminist definition of sexual assault is now a pinch on the ass. We should force them to live in Italy as a purgatory

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domestic violence
Posted by: gellero on Feb 1, 2006 7:55 PM   
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women are more domestically violent than men. The guys are just too level headed to call 911. Go do a web search and check the facts.

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» RE: domestic violence Posted by: redjenny
GerryMander
Posted by: GerryMander on Feb 2, 2006 3:30 AM   
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Yes there's a solution...women serving their country over in Iraq are being raped when they go outside to use the toilet. So the solution is for them to open the door, throw out some grenades into the dark, and then start shooting into the night with their machine guns. So more soldiers will die from "friendly fire". Brilliant.
The mysogynists posting here definately need some professional help.

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Posted by: MysteryWizard on Feb 2, 2006 10:00 PM   
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There is a solution to this problem.
(Women soldiers dying from dehydration, due to inadequate safe places to urinate.)

Donald Rumsfeld doesn't know about it.
Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez didn't know about it.
Col. Janis Karpinski doesn't know about it.
Col. David Hackworth doesn't know about it.
Maj. Gen. Walter Wojdakowski doesn't know about it.
Kathy Gilberd doesn't know about it.
Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks doesn't know about it.

And certainly, our commander-in-chief, George W. Bush doesn't know about it...

But here it is, the solution to the women dying from dehydration, due to inadequate safe places to urinate:

http://PitStopInfo.com

Let's get the word out to our leaders, and save some lives!!!

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We women
Posted by: sisterbluerose on Feb 3, 2006 12:53 AM   
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We women have to go to the bathroom in groups, and go armed in Iraq. They have to be logical, forget the brass males and drink the water and act like it is an armed camp and men are the enemy. Women don't have to shoot evey man. Just those that commit overt acts.
Women are 40% as strong as men. That means they need to be 3 to 1 outnumbering them. And if you are sure a man is a rapist, he should be disarmed. For raping that is.

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If the Bathroom is dark
Posted by: sisterbluerose on Feb 3, 2006 1:08 AM   
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If the bathroom is dark and the person is a man.. I'd say"Oh general, I mistook him for a Iraqi." He wasn't there innocently was he?

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When did we become a nation of wimps
Posted by: sisterbluerose on Feb 3, 2006 1:34 AM   
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The women have to tolerate men in the women bathrooms? Unlit bathrooms at night? I wouldn't go to an unlit bathroom at night alone. I'd go armed with friends. And not male friends. And I'd assume any man I found in the bathroom was an Iraqi terriorist. "This is the women's bathroom, get the f out of here or you are going to be equiped to visit here."
Obviously the women don't theaten the men because they worry how the brass will react. It ain't the men's bathroom.

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Assumptions
Posted by: RedRobin on Feb 3, 2006 9:41 AM   
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Many of the posters are assuming that soldiers, male and female carry their weapons around with them ALL the time. Is this necessarily true? In Viet Nam, the soldiers were issued weapons, but the ammo was locked up. (This is true. My husband was there and it happened to him. Resourceful soldiers "found" ammo, however.) Yes, that was a stupid policy, but this administration has proven itself over and over to be unbelievably stupid and shortsighted. So maybe these women are NOT armed when in camp at night.
As far as pots to piss in, have you ever smelled pee in extremely hot weather? Do want to have that smell under your bed?? And..pots to piss in may not be allowed in sleeping quarters. Some posters are assuming (again) that piss pots are allowed.
Finally, women ARE in the military, whether some of you misogynists like it or not. Not liking it is no excuse for rape. And women are soldiers too, they deserve the loyalty and security from their brother soldiers that male soldiers do.

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» RE: Assumptions Posted by: Dean Cascio
How to Protect "Our soldiers."
Posted by: douglashoyt on Feb 8, 2006 5:58 AM   
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The military personnel serving in Iraq and other places throughtout the world would be better equiped and staffed if the ruling elite would send their children to this war.

It is common sense that if Jenna and Barbara Bush (President Bush's daughters) were serving in a combat unit in Iraq that all the troops would have proper body and equipment armor, and proper training and supervision to prevent soldier on soldier crime i.e. rape.

All in all, rape of female soldiers indicates that the Army of Iraq is falling apart.

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DOD's Record
Posted by: pixiequix on Feb 9, 2006 3:08 AM   
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DoD Identifies Army Casualty

The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Pfc. Melissa J. Hobart, 22, of Ladson, S.C., died June 6 in Baghdad, Iraq, after collapsing while on guard duty. Hobart was assigned to Company E, 215th Forward Support Battalion, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas.

The incident is under investigation.

For further information related to this release, contact Army Public Affairs at (703) 692-2000.

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