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The Real Cost of Homeland Security

By Ben Friedman, AlterNet. Posted February 9, 2006.


Statistically speaking, the terrorist threat to America has always been low. So why are we spending such vast amounts on ineffectual 'Homeland Security'?

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[Editor's Note: This essay is part of a series of Audits of the Conventional Wisdom, a project of the Center for International Studies at MIT.]

Conventional wisdom says that none of us are safe from terrorism. The truth is that almost all of us are. The conventional belief is that in response to terrorism, the federal government has spent massive sums on homeland security. The fact is that the increased federal spending on homeland security since September 11 pales in comparison to increases in the U.S. defense budget. But homeland security has costs beyond spending, costs that conventional thinking rarely considers. U.S. homeland security policy conjures up a flawless enemy that could strike at any moment, in any place. That policy institutionalizes the fears terrorists created and harms liberal values.

Most homeland security experts say that Hurricane Katrina's flooding of New Orleans shows how vulnerable we are to terrorists. In fact, it shows that most Americans have better things to worry about. By any statistical measure, the terrorist threat to America has always been low. As political scientist John Mueller notes, in most years allergic reactions to peanuts, deer in the road, and lightening have all killed about the same number of Americans as terrorism. In 2001, their banner year, terrorists killed one twelfth as many Americans as the flu and one fifteenth the number killed by car accidents.

Most experts dismiss this history. They contend that because both weapons technology and Sunni extremism are spreading, the terrorist danger is ahistorical. But while both these trends are real, we should not leap to the conclusion that the threat is growing or greater than more mundane dangers. There is no obvious reason to believe that September 11 was the start of an era of ever deadlier terrorism, rather than its high-water mark.

Why Terrorism is Difficult

There are several reasons why terrorism is harder than we generally hear. First, terrorists have to get here. There isn't a militant Islamic population in the United States, as there is in Spain or England, nor is there evidence of sleeper cells in the United States. A successful terrorist plot in the United States would probably require terrorists to fly overseas and enter an alien state. That entails reliable men with names off the watch-lists that airline security run, or hard-to-find forged documents, and border agents who are not suspicious. If the plot requires several people, as most do, a core part of the group must accomplish these tasks. Then they need to execute the plot, probably buying weapons material, without raising suspicion.

All of these steps are doable, especially for a professional terrorist organization, as Al Qaeda proved. But conventional analysis of terrorism ignores the second reason terrorism is not so easy: today's terrorist organizations are not as capable as Al Qaeda once was, especially when it comes to operating overseas. One possible exception, Lebanon's Hezbollah, is no longer in the business of attacking the United States. The war in Afghanistan and a worldwide policing effort against Al Qaeda shattered the main terror network that menaced the United States. In its place are disaggregated set of extremist Sunni groups who share little more than Al Qaeda's ideology, and pockets of unaffiliated fellow travelers. This network is linked by personalities, websites, and in some cases financing, but they do not cooperate much, and lack the training and experience the core of Al Qaeda had. These groups will struggle to train operatives, get false documents, and coordinate men and material abroad.

Major terror attacks have recently struck London, Madrid, Jakarta, Bali, Riyadh, Sharm-el-Sheik, Istanbul, Casablanca, Manila, and especially Iraq. But while some of these attacks, including the London subway bombing, may involve men with links to foreign groups, the impetus of the attacks came from local groups, which bodes well for a nation like ours.

Terrorism with unconventional weapons -- often prophesied -- is far from easy. Terrorist attempts to use chemical and biological weapons have failed to cause mass casualties. Manufacturing, controlling, and dispersing biological agents is probably too difficult for today's terrorist groups. The anthrax attack in 2001 killed five people. Making chemical weapons is dangerous and requires sophisticated chemical laboratories. Using them to great effect is difficult. The 1995 sarin attack in Tokyo's subway system killed only 11 people. The blue-ribbon Gilmore Commission showed that it would take a ton of chemical agent like sarin and favorable weather to kill thousands outdoors.

Nuclear terrorism is a greater threat. But the chances of terrorists acquiring a nuclear weapon are low. Most nuclear weapons require delivery vehicles and activation codes. Stealing all of these elements is next to impossible. Smaller, more portable tactical nuclear weapons made by the USSR are easier to get, but these are probably inoperable today. A greater danger is that terrorists might acquire fissile material and a simple gun-type bomb design from a rogue scientist like Pakistan's A. Q. Khan. But even for nations with sufficient funds and infrastructure, building a nuclear weapon can take decades and is hard to conceal. Nuclear terrorists have to take several risky steps. They must find a seller for fissile materials, a design, and other materials, buy the materials, transport it to a secure location, assemble the weapon, and deliver the weapon to its target, which is likely to be another location across borders. None of these steps are impossible, but the existence of multiple failure points drives down the odds of success.

This argument does not endorse complacency among government officials. Even a small threat of nuclear terrorism should provoke a better organized non-proliferation policy than the U.S. now has. Nor does this argument imply that another terrorist massacre in America is unlikely. If enough people try, eventually some attack may well succeed. But attacks are likely to be rare and conventional, on the scale of the London attacks, not apocalyptic nightmares.

Even if attacks killing thousands were certain, the risk to each of us would remain close to zero, far smaller than many larger risks that do not alarm us, or provoke government warnings, like driving to work every day. And if something far worse than September 11 does occur, the country will recover. Every year, tens of thousands Americans die on the roads. Disease preys on us. Life goes on for the rest. The economy keeps chugging. A disaster of biblical proportions visited New Orleans. The Republic has not crumbled. The terrorist risk to the United States is serious, but far from existential, as some would have it.

The Exaggerated Threat

Why does this sound unusual? Why is the threat exaggerated? There are psychological and political reasons.

Most people's risk perception is confused. The world is complex. No one can be an expert in everything. Making judgments about risks requires mental shortcuts, what experts call heuristics. Heuristics subject us to biased risk assessment. Human psychology leads us to overestimate the likelihood of dangers that are novel and uncontrollable. The news media and social interaction reinforce these common errors. We also tend to overestimate risks that lend themselves to memorable images, like planes crashing into buildings. Like shark attacks and kidnapping by strangers, terrorism is strange, uncontrollable, and forms a ready mental image. So people overestimate terrorist's risk and demand excessive protection from it.

People also attach irrational value to current possessions, overvaluing losses and undervaluing potential gains. This may be one reason why publics generally believe that you can never have too much safety, ignoring the costs of protection. But if safety is expensive, then extra protection is dangerous, because it takes money and resources from more worthwhile ends. Defending Iowa from terrorists is not worth it once you factor in the other ways that money could be spent, but the costs of defending it are less evident than the illusory benefits.

The other reason people overestimate risk is politics. When American assess danger they rely on their perceptions, but they also rely on experts in the news media. Experts, however, have interests and often exaggerate danger to serve them. From government bureaucrats seeking larger budgets, to contractors hawking technology, to congressmen campaigning, danger sells. It delivers money and votes. It also sells newspapers. Reporters report on danger, not its absence. Careerist think tank and academic analysts learn that grants, invitations to Capitol Hill, and jobs are more likely to go to those who trumpet threats and defenses against them than those who tell Americans to worry less. There is a structural tendency in America to exaggerate national security dangers.

Despite this threat inflation, spending on homeland security remains tiny compared with defense spending. The homeland security budget for fiscal year (FY) 2006 is $49.9 billion, including the Department of Homeland Security ($42 billion), up from $32 billion in FY 2001. States only spend about $1-2 billion a year on homeland security in addition to federal outlays. Private corporations spend, at most,another $10 billion. In total then, the U.S. spends about $60 annually on homeland security. The defense budget for FY 2006, without the costs of the wars, is $440 billion, an increase of $135 billion over FY 2001. The extra spending goes to weapons and personnel that have little to do with terrorism. Widespread fear of terrorism has primarily benefited the budgets of part of the national security landscape that has the least to do with it.

Of course, the costs of homeland security go beyond what we buy. They include opportunity costs, what we pass up. These costs, hard to quantify, are substantial. Slowing down commerce at ports and borders only slightly due to more inspections may cost millions of dollars a day. Making immigration more difficult hurts industry by depriving it of labor, and at the higher end, by keeping away innovative minds. Educational visa applications in the United States fell by almost 100,000 from 2001 to 2003, reflecting in part the hassle created by homeland security.

Most importantly, homeland security has nonmonetary costs. The U.S. homeland security strategy says terrorists could strike anytime, anyplace, with any weapons; Americans are told to prepare for disaster with escape routes, safety kits, and alertness to suspicious people. Billboards on rural highways and loud speakers at train stations preach vigilance. Every state now has its homeland security agency to promote disaster plans, preparedness, and the like.

The benefits of all this are uncertain. There is little reason to believe that vigilance creates useful tips rather than time wasted on false leads, that evacuation routes for families would ever be useful, or that preparing for fictive disasters much helps prepare for the messy reality of disasters that actually come, like Katrina.

What is the effect of this? For one, it creates a domestic state of war, a creeping authoritarian ethos that affronts the openness and relaxation of a liberal society richer and healthier than nearly any in history. This state of affairs might be acceptable if the threat were greater, but because most Americans are safe, it becomes show business, a set of policeman and analysts in every state that buy equipment and hold press conferences to announce the success of drills for disasters that will probably never come.

Another cost of homeland security is the creation of domestic interests that have an interest in frightening us. Along with the Department of Homeland Security and its little brothers in every state, there are now dozens of university institutes and think tanks of homeland security full of ambitious people. Contractors, buttressed by lobbyists, feed on funds to defend us against terrorism. This growing apparatus would not exist without a sense of danger. Those who comprise it have disincentives to tell Americans how safe they truly are.

This set of interests will preserve the culture of fear that terrorists seek. Terrorists, who get their name from an emotion, are psychological warriors. They make fear. By telling Americans in every corner of the nation to plan for attack and stay eternally alert, we deliver the terrorists' message at least to those still listening to their government's warnings. If combating terrorists is war, it is primarily a psychological one, where the stakes are as much the American psyche as safety alone. Victory is the return to normalcy, not for the intelligence agencies and the FBI, but for the man in the street. Victory is convincing -- or permitting -- regular Americans not to be afraid. Conventional pundits of homeland security worry that the public will become complacent. We should worry that it won't.

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Ben Friedman is PhD student in MIT's Political Science Department and a member of the Security Studies Program.

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Invading Iraq Hindered anti-Terrorism Operations
Posted by: decembrist on Feb 9, 2006 1:38 AM   
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Why are we spending (and making, if you correctly don't divide the government from their corporate partners) so much money on what is likely ineffectual (when it comes to terrorism) defense budgets and Homeland Security? Just like the above author said - because there's interests and money to be made.

One issue the author failed to mention is having NOT taken some of the actions that we have - the invasion of Iraq being the obvious example. A law enforcement approach to al-qaeda style terrorism is infinitely more appropriate, and would probably cost much, much less, but is probably difficult now because much of the Muslim world disagrees with US influence and operations on their soil. The invasion of Iraq has obviously exacerbated this anti-american sentiment and made it difficult and very uncomfortable for unpopular Arab regimes to cooperate with the US, Pakistan being the obvious example here.

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Dorothy and Toto hiding behind TSA agent insisting a tornado go through security
Posted by: anothername on Feb 9, 2006 2:38 AM   
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Chuck Hagel said on a Sunday news show recently that the Republicans need national security more than the Democrats do. Note that he did not say the Republican's care more, merely they need it more. Without it, Republicans would not stay in power.

Homeland security, as created by Congress, can be cited for so many basic tasks, such as inspecting airline passengers' baggage for fruit carrying insects that could wipe out crops or building a tornado-prevention program. These basic roles of government are then linked in people's minds with homeland security and all the other requirements.

When does overprotection stop? I have said before that when the Real ID Act goes into effect, and all those people who have managed to obtain proof of their identities that do not match their birth names exactly have to spend hundreds of dollars to change their names, there is going to be one big backlash.

Meanwhile, homeland security comes down to what it always has been, people who care about their homes and their neighbors, as well as the history of their country and families that has placed them on the land where they live.

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To fight terrorism, one must first see the ROOT
Posted by: eileenflmng on Feb 9, 2006 6:26 AM   
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Today, Feb 9, 2006 in Jerusalem the whistle blower of Israel's WMD Program stands trial for speaking to the media.

Mordechai Vanunu spent 18 years in jail for exposing the truth to the world that Israel had gone nuclear in 1986.
For nearly 2 years he has been under severe restrictions that deny the inalienable rights of free speech and movement.

Israel has never admitted that they have WMD nor have they allowed International Inspectors into the underground forty year old plus Dimona plutonium plant in the Negev.

USA silent collusion in Israel's Policy of Nuclear Ambiguity is at the very root of what breeds a terrorist:
for it is human nature to want what another has.

much more on WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org

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Answer to question: "So why are we spending such vast amounts on ineffectual 'Homeland Security'?"
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Feb 9, 2006 6:48 AM   
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1) Because we have been trained to believe that government spending get results.

2) Because of the strong, reactionary need to "do something".

The scale is off, but this is the same thinking that prompted Pres Clinton to order everyone in a military uniform and every civilian embarked with U.S. forces abroad to receive the anthrax vaccination following the ejection of the UNSCOM team from Iraq by Saddam Hussein in late 1997. Although we knew that he had the manufacturing capability and had produced the materials, very few "ordinary folks"--i.e., those who had to roll up their sleeves and get the shot--believed that he had the capability to deploy weaponized anthrax against surface ships, rolling steel, or boots on the ground.

Again, the scale is off, but the perception of "protection" was important for Clinton, as it is for Bush. Even though the anthrax vaccine had never been subject to long term testing, with the executive order in hand, President Clinton could still look the American people in the eyes, and say, "We're protecting your sons and daughters against chemical, biological, and radiological weapons". The military was already equipped and training to mitigate the effects of chemical and--to some degree--to mitigate the effects of harmful radiation. Therefore, hitting everyone in uniform with the 6-round regimen of anthrax vaccination--though incredibly expensive--was a means of putting a checkmark in the box beside "bioweapon" attacks.

Bottom line, when politicians get pressured to "DO SOMETHING", they generally respond by doing exactly that--in spite of the fact that simply waving the magic wand of taxpayer dollars often results in a wasteful and ineffective product, leaving the core problem unchanged. Then the pols puff up their chests, get on national television and promise that they are doing "alot", but are always trying to do "better". Sometimes they shake their thumbs and wink slyly, sometimes they drawl.

The results aren't always rational, well reasoned, or appropriate, but c'mon--that's the most obvious problem you get when you (the majority of American voters) don't bother to be specific when you demand politicians "do something".

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» Arguably, to live longer. Posted by: ABetterFuture
Who Needs Sophistication?
Posted by: gar on Feb 9, 2006 6:49 AM   
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While I am in general agreement with the author in his assessment of risks, I would like to point out that while the human cost of the 9/11 tragedy was less than 3000 people, the monetary cost, including the various ripple effects in our economy, was enormous.

The hijackers were able to cause this enormous economic impact and loss of human life with a box-cutter - a razorblade with a handle. Had they desired, they could have achieved the same result with a sharp rock or piece of glass. Sophisticated weapons are hardly needed to inflict enormous damage. All it takes is a determined fanatic and a few upper-echelon people in the government with ulterior motives who are conveniently looking the other way.

Our government, even now, is not interested in true "Homeland Security." If they were, they would not have started allowing people to board planes again carrying knives and scissors in favor of putting more emphasis on checking for explosives. When was the last time a hijacker used explosives in the United States to blow up a plane? When was the last time a hijacker used a razorblade with a handle? You have to wonder - do they want a repeat of 9/11?

Further, if our government wanted "Homeland Security" they would immediately send troops to seal the Mexican border. Not only is it a sieve for illegal aliens, it serves as an open door to drug traffickers, and, over the last few weeks we have been invaded at least twice by armed Mexican soldiers; not policeman, soldiers!

I can only conclude from all this that the so-called "Homeland Security" of the US is just another boondoggle give-away to government cronies, in addition to being an agent of control over the masses by the tactics of fear and suppression.

Unlike the author, I cannot dismiss the deaths of 3000 people and the ensuing economic impact of 9/11 lightly. Stopping another incident like that should be a national priority. Like the author though, I fail to see how buying air-conditioned garbage trucks in Iowa (as grants from Homeland Security have done) is going to assist in that effort.

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Homeland Security or Homeland Oppression?
Posted by: Freedom84 on Feb 9, 2006 7:51 AM   
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There is a very simple and disturbing answer to the creation of Homeland Secuirty; the truth is its not for protection, but for oppression, Homeland Secuirty is the United States equivalent to The SS during th Nazi regime. Backed by the deadfulk Patirot Act, they aim to strip away every civil right possible, harrass native bron American citizens at Airports, with racist profiling, and create a state of panic amongst the populace, all in the pretect of protection? But who will protect the people from the real threat, this Facist regime that has destroyed and trampled the Constitution. Because after all its not just Bush, Cheyney, or Rumsfeld, it is a regime akin to the Nazi party that is responsible for the destruction of our country. That's the anwser Homeland Security is just another sham to intimidate and control.

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Keep discussing this stuff and it takes it off the real cause of 9-11.
Posted by: Prophit on Feb 9, 2006 7:52 AM   
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Which means we don't even need homeland security at all. In fact, if we don't want another terrorist attack, just take that money, hire high security, top clearance people from law enforcement and assign at least one to each and every operative in the White House including the President and Cheney and have them attend each and every function they go to and stay right with them morning, noon and night so they can't plan the next one. Make these operatives accountable to a bipartisan commission of Congress and independant from the White House

That includes one operative for every joint chiefs, military generals in each branch of the service and every assistant secretary of defense. That would solve any future attack concerns we might have. Heck, I feel safer already just coming up with that solution.

It would cost a lot less and be 100% effective. If a dem wins the 2008 elections he/she needs to clean house all the way down to the white house gardner. These guys continue to oeprate regardless of who is in charge. They need to go.

Don't believe me???? Watch "Loose Change" and it will change your life and way of thinking about all of this and you will roll your eyes when you read commentaries like this one.

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The 'REAL' Cost?!
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Feb 9, 2006 8:02 AM   
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This is not an issue that can be measured in dollars and cents,or should I say 'sense'. This 'homeland security' ideal must be looked at very closely. In it's current configuration,
it's a 'Police State' tool. Their mission is as much 'enemy building' as it is antagonist. In some cases locals have been 'bullied' into accepting H.S. policies. They're not finding enough muslim extremeists so now they insist there's a hidden 'Meth Lab" in every poor person's neighborhood. They believe getting a new car if you're low income means you're up to no good. They want to make counsilors,teachers,and doctors, 'narcs' for the system. Confidentiality is out the window. We used to sandbag the communists for doing this kind of shit,where did we step in it?
Through fear and intimidation we have traded our Freedom and Liberty for this 'Beast' that feels like 'security' but is in reality TYRANNY. Homeland Security is about control. Control of you lives in every way possible. A bunch of kids hang out together,like the same bands,preffer jeans to haggars, H.S. dubs them a 'Gang'. If you and your friends have a meeting place that's out of the way,they want to know what you're doing. Since the 1970's there has been assigned to every county in America, two, officer level C.I.A. agents directing all kinds of fun, from insuring drug distribution,thug distribution,and alittle domestic spying. My state has better than 70 counties,that's over 140 little 'james bonds' making life hell for the people. How many counties are in yor state? How safe do you feel? I betting not very. Maybe we should be our own security. It would be cheaper and more effective.
Imagine it for a second that everyone looked out for eachother's back. Not be so invloved we know each other's private lives,but just care enough that if you heard a strange noise,or a new car in the area,you'd look outside,turn on a porch light, let them know they are seen. That's homeland security. Having tolerance is homeland security. Not giving in to gossip is homeland security.
The cost of Freedom and Liberty is far too high to pay for the kind of security we're being forcefed. It's actions of fear and intimidation won't bring security but deceit,war,death and famine. Is this a cost you're willing to pay?

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Complacency is inevitable...
Posted by: kelly.nickell on Feb 9, 2006 8:04 AM   
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...as the sky doesn’t fall yet another day, the complacency will regain its edge.

As we all go about our day trying to survive what this administration has foisted upon us, we will all do one thing: attack the fears that keep us frozen in the moment.

Once the thaw takes place, the populace will feel the same way about terrorism as they do about under-cooked chicken. Cook it a little longer, or a little hotter and it will be fine.

Chicken sales are up, terrorism sales are down. Money and security go hand in hand. As the economic crush is felt deeply by the populace in seemingly disconnected ways that affect them daily, and the crush of terra’ is not felt at all, the laws of diminishing entropy should kick in.

We all grow weary of being afraid of the monster under the bed. We’ll all peel back the blanket at some point and dive under the bed, only to discover – that stupid rubber chicken – squawking every time the cat lays(lies?) on it.

We should embrace the complacency as normal, and pray for its return. We should also cook the chicken, and treat terrorism as what it is; a dangerous rise in the entropy of religious fundamentalism, that cannot be killed with bombs, but by example of higher order living, ideally along the lines of a demonstrative respect for Islam, just as we would want respect for perhaps, frisbeeism, as taught by George Carlin.

The author of the article does not point out an obvious element to me. The relationship of high entropy terrorism, the kind that builds people ready to die for their cause, and the garden variety entropy of fervor built around protest signs and burning effigies. One has a probable finite pool of entrants, the other, more readily populated by those less prone to higher states of entropy, by perhaps something as simple as a life and a family that needs more support than Al Quesadilla.

We like our chicken. I like mine cooked and on a quesadilla. Call this the quesadilla rule of diminishing terminal fundamentalist fervor. It will be replaced by the rising entropic rule of life as normal at Walmart, where frozen chicken is two for one right now, and the complacency factor is high, because I can get it later at Winn Dixie for even less. No terra’ anywhere to be found.

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Another Never Ending War
Posted by: asque on Feb 9, 2006 8:12 AM   
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Europe has been dealing with bombings and other terrorist activities for years without making fear a way of life. The WOT is quickly becoming an ongoing justification for larger military and police budgets, just like the never ending war on drugs. In both cases we keep throwing resources at a perceived problem without ever examining whether there might be a better way. For example if drugs were legal and cheap, we would remove money form the gangs (and the CIA) and addicts would not longer be feared but become the targets of contempt and pity.

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F=I.W.
Posted by: gonzoskismet on Feb 9, 2006 8:15 AM   
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Freedom=I won't. I won't fight your wars. I won't buy your bullshit. I won't knuckle under to you Nazi Regime. I won't be afraid because you say so. I won't be afraid because you may be coming for me because you better bring your lunch, sucker. It's gonna be a long day. I'm an American and I DO NOT FEAR.

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20th/21st century jihadists & 19th century anarchists
Posted by: brunowe on Feb 9, 2006 8:16 AM   
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I'm actually reposting a comment I made to a J. Holland blog post, because I think it's relevant here:

The Economist did a two very interesting pieces comparing these two groups. Although the anarchists didn't kill 3,000 in a single stroke, they did kill several heads of state. The links to the full articles are here:
http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4293225 and http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4292760

I'll offer the closing paragraph of one of them here:
"Such people can be caught, sometimes before they have done anything terrible. That argues for excellent intelligence and police work. Perhaps their numbers can be reduced by ameliorating the grievances that lend them the justification for their attacks. That argues for political action. And certainly the public needs reassurance. That argues for honest explanation—that terrorism does not threaten any western government, that retribution, like police injustices committed in nervous haste, is likely to provoke more violence, that new restrictions are unlikely to bring new safety. Honest explanation, and simple history, also suggest that this wave of terror will pass, just as the anarchist wave passed, but that terrorism will not—not as long as strange men are captivated by strange ideas. The jihadists will go. Others will take the stage. "

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» I think you are Elvis, too. Posted by: ABetterFuture
wacoguy
Posted by: wacoguy on Feb 9, 2006 8:29 AM   
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I think this analysis is outstanding. It is the type of thing that should be part of the public debate.

Not as a matter of criticism, but as part of an ongoing "mull" on my part with respect to the whole mysterious world that has become "Homeland Security", I am always fascinated that a very obvious result is always likely to not be mentioned in any analysis. And Mr. Friedman's excellent anaylysis actually surrounds the point, and then doesn't make it.

The most obvious possible result--it seems painfully obvious to me-- is that most of the "work" performed in the name of homeland security is likely to be worthless and claptrap AND THIS CAN BE DEMONSTRATED BY PRIOR SIMILAR FACTS AND OCCURRENCES.

For all the work done in route planning, etc., the reality of the recent hurrican season was--especially in and around Houston, but also with N.O. and other places--that, if it really is a mass crisis issue (ie., the very kind of terrorist threat that everyone is subliminally being made terrified of by those identified by Mr. Friedman), the plans aren't likely to work.

Not just the route plans, but the food and water plans, the health care plans, etc.

I am old enough to remember the "duck and cover" days of the 50's, and the workings of the "Civil Defense" groups. I can remember the huge number of buildings in my town that had stored rotting cans of stale water, inedible food and who knows what other junk. All paid for, I am sure at contractor prices. Lots of patronage jobs; lots of mindless activity and distraction; little defense. It boggled my mind as a youngster when I pondered how much of that trash was taking up space all over the US.

Separately, I also know from "inside" experience that (no matter what the public image is) the average peace officer is not likely to be interested in (and, when push comes to shove, will avoid participating in) truly risky situations or issues. And, if those folk are not likely to, then it must follow that desk-bound employees--no matter what their department, are certainly cannot be expected to act thusly, and that is the kind of employment and employee that inevitably evolves in Homeland Security and similar organizations.

Heckuva Job Brownie is actually Plaintiff's Exhibit A for the kind of ineffectual employees buried in places like Homeland Security, and that may be the saddest unspoken aspect of the whole mess.

Ultimately, a problem with security is always going to be mostly human--and the results will be affected by human nature, sloth, pettiness, etc. There were plenty of laws and security forces prior to 9-11.

The true problem was that the FBI and other agencies were engaging--and had been engaging for many years--in the kind of petty, mindless bureaucratic games (intra-agency and with each other) that ought to be what is made criminal in any additional laws. If the existing systems had worked properly it is likely that the whole event could have been avoided.

But that fact, of course, can never truly be acknowledged by reps--elected or otherwise--that put the malfunctioning systems in place, or were charged with operating the systems.

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» RE: wacoguy Posted by: kelly.nickell
» RE: wacoguy Posted by: kelly.nickell
Homeland Security
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Feb 9, 2006 8:39 AM   
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is more proof that this country was taken over by a Fascist coup who uses fear to enrich the wealthiest 1% of the population. It is really quite simple, and yet you're outside the mainstream when you point this out. Hello? It's right in your faces and you only live in denial by refusing to see it. It's like those graphs that show how the exponential rise in world population mirrors that of oil production. And yet oil production is going to begin peaking very soon. (If it has not already.) And yet no one talks about it? Hello? Look at all the major issues... I mean the big ones that threaten our very existence. No one wants to talk about them. Why? Because the rich rule the world, and the rich will survive peak oil and global warming, hell some of them even think they'll survive a "nucular" holocaust. But the people who wont survive the looming threats--the bottom 95%--they aren't talkin. If this isn't proof that we are brainwashed by the elite wealthy then I dont know what to tell you. Houston, we have a problem. But lets not talk about it. Let's continue talking about what the top 1% want us to talk about, like good little minions.

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Sophomoric analysis
Posted by: Sojourner on Feb 9, 2006 9:32 AM   
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"There is a structural tendency in America to exaggerate national security dangers." That confused assertion characterizes the whole point of the piece.

If this poly sci grad student wrote that in one of my classes, I'd remind him that "exaggerate" needs to be defined quantitatively when used in an analysis that depends on selective statistics. Otherwise it is, itself, a rhetorical exaggeration.

All we need to know in addition is what is a so-called "structural tendency," what are comparable "tendencies" and where and how they are located. Without that, it amounts to an alarmist 'tendency' to refute alarmist 'tendencies.'

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» RE: Sophomoric analysis Posted by: kelly.nickell
» RE: Sophomoric analysis Posted by: Sojourner
Terrorism is often an inside job.
Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 9, 2006 9:46 AM   
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Many, many factors fell into place on 9/11; factors when added up seeming as fortuitous as a bad movie plot:
--The historic and singular stand-down of North American air defenses on that particular day;
--The running of an air defense drill that exactly matched the actual attack and confused air traffic controllers;
--That Bush was conveniently out of Washington;
--That the part of the Pentagon that was struck was a section undergoing renovations and nearly empty, even though it was on a side opposite the attacking plane's direct approach;
--That the WTC was struck early, before those buildings were fully occupied;
--That like Oswald in the Kennedy assassination, the hijackers were identified with incredible speed;
--That inconveniently, six of the hijackers supposedly vaporized in the attack turned up very much alive and in other countries;
--That for the first and ONLY TIME IN HISTORY, steel-framed buildings collapsed from fire damage;
--That the WTC-7 could be rigged for demolition in less than 8 hours – a feat normally requiring weeks of preparation;
--That three buildings, though damaged asymetrically and in ways unique to each, all fell neatly into their own footprints – a statistical impossibility other than by controlled demolition.

When one looks at the unique dovetailing of these factors (and more), 9/11 looks suspiciously like at least a partial inside job. The idea is appalling to contemplate, but how else does one explain such a mind-boggling confluence of normally-chaotic occurrences? For the record, at least 60 physicists and engineers concur that the official explanation of the WTC building collapses does not make sense.

Now, add to that that the timing of the disaster was perfect to raise the political fortunes of President Bush, who at the time was sinking toward becoming a political joke, and the whole official explanation begins to stink like hell. I can't speculate on the "who and how"; all I know is that no thinking person can believe what we've been told.

We still do not know the truth behind the Kennedy assassination; a book has just come out that chronicles another (thwarted) attempt that was made on Kennedy's life in Florida before Dallas – an attempt kept quiet all these years. When will we know the truth about 9/11? Perhaps never.

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» It has nothing to do with faith Posted by: Iconoclast421
» Exactly. My. Point. Posted by: ABetterFuture
» Trolls? I thought it was gremlins? Posted by: ABetterFuture
Bush and 9/11
Posted by: rafey on Feb 9, 2006 10:43 AM   
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I had until recently poo-poohed the notion that the Bush administration (i.e., K. Rove, et.al) had something to do with the attack. It seemed ludicrous that so many should die (especially Bush millionaire cronies, so many of whom populated the buildings) for political purposes. But then one day (while I was busy duck taping my house) I had a realization that, in fact, the subsequent collapse of the two towers had not been a planned event but simply occurred due to a lack of engineering insight. In fact, only a handfull of folks on the very top floors were intended as victims, the entire affair having been meant to be a statement or declaration, if you will, of "war." Again, the remaining planes were also intended to do little more than physical damage with few lives sacrificed. Who knows? But I must admit that Bush/Rove's involvement does appear to be a good deal more plausable.

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» RE: Bush and 9/11 Posted by: Iconoclast421
» Elaborate? Posted by: ABetterFuture
Finally a rational and valuable viewpoint
Posted by: HuckFinn on Feb 9, 2006 10:43 AM   
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No real comment other than thank you Ben. I think that the trend to inflate everything needs to be tamed in this culture. Of course, we also need to work on other basics like being honest (with others and ourselves), trying our hardest at everything we do (amazing results are just around the corner), etc.

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otto
Posted by: otto on Feb 9, 2006 11:40 AM   
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A lot of so called homeland security is a joke anyway. I've gone over the Ambassador Bridge and tdhrough the Detroit Windsor tunnel a number of times since 9-11. The main change I've seen is that the bridge collects all the fees (inflated now!) on the Detroit side. If I were a terrorist coming from Canada there would be nothing to stop me from blowing these places up at peak trafic times, because thee's no inspection before getting to the other side. Any terrorist would know this. I suspect it's true at most other border crossings too.

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» omg Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: otto Posted by: chaoslegs
The sun will come out tomorrow
Posted by: Ming on Feb 9, 2006 2:08 PM   
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It's been black clouds since 2000 and Bush and Co. keep promising the sun will come out tomorrow but it just never happens in their world. They keep screwing up one emergency after another to the point that it all seems designed to make them look inept. While actually they may be playing the greatest magic trick ever. The plan of the Bush and Co. is to put the most money in the pockets of the wealthy, put cronies into office, strip social projects from the poor, and blast any country of the face of the earth that doesn't agree with our energy policies. Now Bush announces that a formerly "classified" terrorists threat against the West Coast in 2002 was thwarted. Why release such information now when he wouldn't for 4 years. Simple. To take our minds off the wiretapping hole he has dug himself into. Tomorrow when the sun doesn't shine again he will announce that this attack would have succeeded had it not been for his secret wiretapping. BS Mr. President.

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Good Analysis! Is the rhetorical tide turning?
Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Feb 9, 2006 2:21 PM   
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I'm glad to see it's not just me.

I was beginnig to believe that Americans ... taken as a group ... were, at heart, "the coward with a gun." -- the most dangerous animal on earth.

For 5 1/2 years NONE of 'our guys' have cared to challenge the Myth of 9/11:

"Everything Changed on 9/11!"
Terrorists Are Out to DESTROY US -- and they CAN!!!"

In retrospect, we were probably as safe as any civilized Christian nation needs to be on Sept 12 ... but the only people saying so were a handful of radical Quaker, Buddhist and ultra-Left athiest idealists.

My own Senators, the supposedly 'ultra-Liberal" Hillary Clinton and the only-Liberal Chuck Schumer, have bought into the Homeland Security thing with enthusiasm ... because Anti Terror money is the only pork a Republican government is going send NY-ward -- but probably because they've done careful research and determined that their constituancies are just as cowardly, self-centered, and vicious as the Republican base.

John Kerry, of course, ran HIS campaign on the premise that he was "reporting for duty" and would 'hunt and kill terrorists' EVEN BETTER ... keeping us all EVEN SAFER than George Bush could. And until this week, if you listened to Air America you'd hear the unvarying theme that: "George Bush has not done enough to secure the Homeland -- TO KEEP US SAFE." Athought to be fair, Randi Rhodes and Al Franken think that we don't have to destroy the Constitution in order to KEEP US SAFE (Oh, dear god, please please please keep us safe -- for the Children.)

There were some anti-terror measures that did need to be taken in 2001. Putting locks on cockpit doors was one. Shutting down some of the informal unregulated ethnic banking networks was another. Beyond that, incremental inmprovements in police work and diplomacy would have keep Americans safe enough for any useful purpose.

We were told that mustard gas, cyanide and ricine were useful WMDs for terror attack. We were told that Jose Padilla had a 'radioactive dirty bomb plan" -- when in plain fact, he had no radioactives, no bomb and no plan. Anthrax! Smallpox! Sleeper Cells! None of it real. Yet we cheerfully take off our shoes in airports, tolerate the Patriot Act, torture prisoners, tap telephones etc. etc. .... "as long as it makes us safer."

This week, for some reason the wind seems to be shifting.
There's this article which is about the first of its kind of read outside some Letters to the Editor in TriCycle magazine. Last night John Steward was mocking Bush for using the word "terror" so many times in one speech ... and as I'm writing, Randi Rhodes is doing the same -- for the first time.

Hopefully in the future we'll get some voices actually weighing terrorist risks against making Nine Eleven the be all and end all of American policy on everything.

(So many people so certain they're going to Heaven ... and so willing to crucify Christ all over again, just to be "safer" here on Earth.)

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» Say again??? NORADS??? Global Hawk???? Posted by: AdamSelene11726
Military mindset
Posted by: condenser on Feb 9, 2006 2:20 PM   
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I don't think you have to look much further than this to understand why we overreact to lame threats.

There is a powerful establishment with a strong voice that is just looking for a fight. It sits and it plans scenarios for long years, and it prays (yes, it is quite religious) for its day in the sun. It doesn't like to err on the side of peace. Its plans are not to spare lives on either side. It longs to express itself and its ability to crush the enemy, whoever he may be. It will fight for economic causes, ideology or even lame threats. It just wants to do what it does best. It wants to lead and create economic superiority, for it has a friend called corrupt corporate America who likes to dance with it. When they dance the earth trembles. They love to win all the dance trophies.

The trick is to keep this genie (military establishment) in the bottle, for the genie doesn't grant wishes of peace. He's a genie with issues. He has hate/anger problems. He suffers from social anxiety. He will grant wishes of war for just about any cause.

Homeland security is not easily achievable by brute force, and you can't cheaply buy it or manafacture it when you need it. If there are threats against the homeland then we need to understand why there are threats and then not try to create any more.

The threat we have now is just puny, a small backlash from some serious bad planning with some small players. Bin Laden and Hussein were our employees. We treated them as friends and they fought our dirty wars for us. It saved us lives then. They killed for us. Our genies became friends. Ours showed theirs how to dance. We gave them WMD happily. They were very good terrorists. We embraced them. They were useful. Now they are not so useful.

Their genie is the same as our genie. He is indifferent to who the enemy is. He loves to rock' n roll.

What's the real cost of homeland security? I think it is pretty high because we have let the genie out of the bottle again and he's trying to stay out for a long time now. The things that put the genie back in the bottle are being eliminated by presidential edict. The laws are changing. The talk is about never ending war now, all in the name of homeland security.

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» Posted on truthout Posted by: condenser
» RE: Military mindset Posted by: kelly.nickell
Wake up
Posted by: technocrat on Feb 9, 2006 5:47 PM   
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Silly, deluded people. There is one valid reason for the emerging police state. The status quo - and I dont' mean Repugs or Dems, as they both answer to the same masters: greed and domination - has blundered things so abysmally that control over the masses will be imperative to protect the elite when the self-induced collapse comes. In spite of the impending end of the Oil Age, in addition to supporting a murderous and criminally wasteful private transportation system foisted on us by corporate interests, we continue to fritter away petroleum resources on muscle cars, mad pursuits like NASCAR and shuttling seven-foot hoop shooters and macho linebackers across the continent. Our economic structure has terminal Parkinson's, with foreign currencies pulling out of their dollar investments right and left. We're facing the very real threat of another war front in South and Central America as those nations declare their independence from good ole Yankee imperialism.
The real movers and shakers - the global elite who feel that they are divinely ordained to rule the minions of mere mortals beneath them - have seen this coming for many, many years. They should have, as they have orchestrated it. Their latest foray into outrage is Sept. 11, for they set up this one to inject an atmosphere of fear and hysteria in which the people will welcome control to protect them from the enemies they have been told are lurking in every doorway. Hell, it's not the random fanatic we have to worry about depriving us of our freedom of movement, it is the meticulously orchestrated machinations of the moneyed elite.

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» RE: Wake up Posted by: Poederbach
» RE: Wake up Posted by: kelly.nickell
The Whole Idea is to Make Us More Dependent on Government
Posted by: alicelillie on Feb 10, 2006 8:40 AM   
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If people are scared of some sort of catastrophe they are less inclined to take risks. They will turn to government for protection and do as they are told because they "don't want to take any chances."

And the mainstream media is full of the potential for catastrophe. Additionally there are news reports of events like police standoffs. There were two of these in as many weeks where I live, with school lockdowns and the whole 9 yards. They were *all over* the news!

The Bush administration and its police state know this and are taking full advantage of it.

Meanwhile, they go on and on provoking trouble by wars and threats of attack.

This has happened over and over throughout history. When are we going to stop being sheeple and catch on?

I am a libertarian, not a socialist or a moderate, but a radical libertarian. This means I believe in minimal government. We do not need big brother to lead us by the nose.

Please see my blog, in which I discribe how I think we got to this state. If you are too busy to read the whole thing, go 3/4 of the way down and see the segment on Bush. Or read that first. You will see that the libertarian is most definitely on your page re. Bush; I am as fiercely opposed to Bush as anyone could be! And one of the biggest reasons why I am is because I believe in the Bill of Rights!!!

See http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com .

Anti-Bush Alice

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czech jets, launchers, military and cop character witnesses
Posted by: gltirebiter on Feb 10, 2006 12:07 PM   
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for a good example of how so-called 'homeland security' functions in the real world, go the the anchorage alaska daily news front page from 2-9-06 and read up on the missle launcher story in the lead.

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The Real Threat is Socio-economic
Posted by: Kanefire on Feb 10, 2006 9:04 PM   
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Interesting how our factories have been moving to other countries, our defense is 50+% budget, our debt is virtually unserviceable and held by other nations, growth in '05 GDP was 90% through housing which was fueled half through extremely low interest rates, and half through over-credit extension, bankrupcty laws turned a new start into endentured servitude, the lending industry called notes on Katrina victims in 90 days, the banks apply predatory default rates, all the while congress remains complicit and the echo chamber reverberates terror.

We should be very afraid of the terror of suppression. I respect the critical mind and wish greatness to the seekers of truth.

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george233
Posted by: george233 on Feb 11, 2006 1:07 AM   
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The answer to the question regarding drugs is simple. To line the pockets of drug companies and government officials

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It's Not Mutually Exclusive
Posted by: Sixties Girl on Feb 11, 2006 12:58 PM   
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Know what I find really frightening? That there are people, like this author, who try to minimize the very real dangers of WMD by jumping on the "They're Just Trying to Scare Us" bandwagon. It's not mutually exclusive, you know: the fear tactic has been overused by this Adminstration AND there is a very real danger. The real challenge is, like most everything, moderation: we should be aware of the dangers and working in what ever ways we can to minimize or at least prepare for such eventualities, while maintaining our civil liberties, our basic freedoms, and our pursuing our lives and livelihoods without paralyzing fear.

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Article Ignores Gang Threat, More
Posted by: dfriedman on Feb 24, 2006 4:59 PM   
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This article ignores the probability that the terrorists have already partnered with MS-13 and FARC, and are infiltrating the Homeland. They could combine dirty bomb attacks with cyberterrorism to take control of strategic locations. Also, the food chain is vulnberable. I don't think we're ready.

You have to multiply these dangers to get your mind around the threat. But that is ignored here. Perhaps that is deliberate. Who can say that "Ben Friedman" is not a foreign agent, sent to weaken us? The Terrorists are always thinking. Always adjusting. Certainly "Ben Friedman" is a subversive. There is a Marxist theme to his thought, if I read him right. He opposes freedom.

What about the 10,500 people died on 9/11 Ben? What would they make of your little structural theory? I agree with the guy who is afraid of people who aren't sufficiently scared. You can't trust them. We need to stay really freaked out. These are usual times. China's Navy grows daily. Katrina showed that all American cities are not ready for levees breaking. Bird flu spreads. With all the unknowns these days we can't take chances. "Ben Friedman" belongs in jail.

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