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Taking the Bite Out of the Flu

By Tijn Touber and Kim Ridley, Ode. Posted January 30, 2006.


Are homeopathic remedies more effective than flu shots? According to 1918 figures, they may be.

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Homeopathy may be more effective than flu shots. In the deadly flu outbreak of 1918, patients treated with homeopathy had much higher survival rates.

Not only is the avian flu front-page news, but clinics and doctors are warning us about the dangers of the common flu. Posters and leaflets, ads and articles urge us to get our shots, the pressure greater than usual with the ominous bird flu looming.

In Great Britain, a National Health Service leaflet says, "If you knew about the flu, you'd get the jab." But the British environmental magazine The Ecologist (October 2005) can't help wondering if that's really the case: "If people truly knew about flu, and the lack of effectiveness of the vaccine being offered as protection, would they really be so obedient about getting the jab?"

Last September, a report in the American Medical Association journal Archives of Internal Medicine dropped a bombshell: Although immunization rates in those over 65 have increased 50 percent in the past 20 years, there has been no decline in flu-related deaths. One reason is that hundreds of flu viruses can be circulating at any time.

Nevertheless, every February, scientists at the World Health Organization meet to define the three that are likely to cause the most misery the following winter. The viruses they choose are included in that year's vaccine. But in the months between formulating the vaccine and administering it, the viruses -- which constantly evolve and mutate -- may have changed, or new ones may emerge.

Flu experts often get it wrong. In 1994, for example, they predicted that Texas, Shangdong and Panama viruses would be prevalent, so millions of people were vaccinated against those strains. However, when winter arrived, entirely different strains were circulating through schools, offices and households worldwide.

Even if the vaccine contains the right strains, not everyone responds by producing the antibodies that fend off the flu. As many as 40 percent of people over age 65, for example, do not respond to vaccination. Last year the U.S. Centers for Disease Control funded research on health-care workers in Colorado. Results showed virtually the same percentage of people suffered from influenza-like illnesses whether they were vaccinated or not, leaving researchers to conclude that the vaccine "was not effective or had very low effectiveness."

Ineffectiveness is not the only thing to worry about when getting a flu shot. Alternative Medicine (October 2005) lists the typical ingredients in a vaccine: Aluminum hydroxide (associated with Alzheimer's and seizures), thimerosal (a mercury-based neurotoxin linked to ADHD and autism) and phenol (a human carcinogen) are among the substances added. This has caused some people to ask whether vaccines might do more harm than good.

Do we have alternatives? During the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, which killed up to 50 million people worldwide, homeopathic physicians in the United States reported very low mortality rates among their patients, while flu patients treated by conventional physicians faced mortality rates of around 30 percent. Dr. W.A. Dewey gathered data from homeopathic physicians treating flu patients around the country in 1918 and published his findings in the Journal of the American Institute of Homeopathy in 1920. Homeopathic physicians in Philadelphia, for example, reported a mortality rate of just over 1 percent for the more than 26,000 flu patients they treated during the pandemic.


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Posted by: alterhead on Jan 27, 2006 9:24 AM   
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Sinusalia for sinus pain, pressure and headache pain. Made by the same people that make osci. Also, not Homeo, but Wellness Formula by Source Naturals for shortening cold/flu duration (I do this when feeling the onset). Also Sambucol elderberry and Elderberry from Source Naturals. Sabadil (manf. by Boiron as well, the Osci people) for sneezing, itchy/watery eyes/nose. For general immune system maintenance, the chinese herb astragulus; the ONLY herb recommended for daily use. Echinacia and goldenseal, taken for 10 days, shortens duration of symptoms, but should never be taken daily. NO Herb, except astragulus, should be taken daily. Herbs are foods/drugs and should be treated as such, but NOT treated as pahama-drugs as Durbin, Hatch and Harkin seem to think they should be.

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Homeopathic cures is fraud
Posted by: Falang on Jan 30, 2006 2:11 AM   
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Yes you read it, homeopathy is the fraud of the century, every scientific study found that is what not better than the placebo effect of every pharmaceutical studies.

What is next, the return of the bleeding to cure illness?

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I was going to give this the benefit of the doubt--
Posted by: bettsoff on Jan 30, 2006 4:09 AM   
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until I read, "Also, getting the flu is an opportunity for the body to detoxify."

Horseshit. All your immune cells working overtime, producing lots of cellular waste, reproducing, and dying all over the place, and somehow that's 'detoxifying'? Gimme a break.

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illness as purging
Posted by: Shakti on Jan 30, 2006 6:33 AM   
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The two posters who 1) debunk homeopathy and 2) reject the notion that experiencing illness is a way to purge are both uninformed. After studying holistic medicine for two decades (as an academic researcher) I can confidently state that there are randomized trials indicating that homeopathy can be effective for some conditions (e.g., David Reilly's experiements), and that there have even been animal trials showing homeopathy to have a statistically significant effect. Readers interested in scientific studies on homeopathy can access abstracts of articles by Googling CAM on PubMed or accessing this database via the NIH-NCCAM website.

2) Getting sick (and then recovering) clearly leaves people stronger. The purging that typically accompanies the flu rids the body of toxins. This is one of the reasons that voluntary purging (e.g., fasting, drinking copious amount of water) helps keep people healthy.

When it comes to health and healing, it seems far better to keep an open mind and take a look at the facts that are out there than to adhere to a particular ideology.

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Homeopathy? That's insanity.
Posted by: esactun on Jan 30, 2006 7:33 AM   
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Get with the 21st century. It's a 200-year-old system of empirical delusion and charlatanry. It has no place in the reality-based community.

www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html

Medicine and scientific fact are not "ideology". Homeopathy is about a scientifically valid as intelligent design--and note that the arguments on behalf of homeopathy are the mirrors of those on behalf of ID. The scientific community holds homeopathy in about the same regard as ID, as well--which is to say, in about as much regard as the Easter Bunny...

Clinging to this stuff is just another way for the left to attract charges of being fluffy, woo-woo, unhinged New Agers. This article's appearance on Alternet damages to the credibility of all progressives.

This is disappointing, to say the least.

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Wellness and resistance to flu
Posted by: xyz2002 on Jan 30, 2006 7:44 AM   
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I think the Chinese way to treating or preventing flu is to maintain your health so your body could resist the flue or recover from the flue. There is no magic bullet, but each person needs to find a best way for themselves. Some of thing I was brought up with are quite simple such as adquate rest, less stress, drinking more water, and frequent normal excersize (don't overdo it). A lot of people are trying to sell you their products, but if you look around you will find some well-tested ways which would fit you and don't cost much.

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jenifertrout
Posted by: jtrout on Jan 30, 2006 9:23 AM   
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Ask yourself who is conducting the clinical trials which "prove" that homeopathy is "useless". Just because we cannot yet explain the mechanism of homeopathy in a way that jives with our current scientific models doesn't mean that homeopathy doesn't work. It often works at my house and even when it doesn't, there are NO SIDE EFFECTS!!! How many people are killed each year by the TOXICITY of western meds and ERRORS in the prescribing/dispensing/taking thereof? I'll take Oscillo, thanks. Arnica and Calendula are great too!!!

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here is medical lowdown on homeopathy:
Posted by: Shakti on Jan 30, 2006 11:53 AM   
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Here is an abstract from a highly reputable medical journal. You can get a full text of this article at NIH-NCCAM (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/nccam/camonpubmed.html) by searching on CAM on PubMed (use search words "homeopathy" and "influenza").

A critical overview of homeopathy. Annals of Internal Medicine. 2003:Mar 4;138(5):393-9

Jonas WB, Kaptchuk TJ, Linde K.

Samueli Institute for Information Biology, 121 South Saint Asaph Street, Suite 200, Alexandria, VA 22314, USA. wjonas@siib.org

Homeopathy is a 200-year-old therapeutic system that uses small doses of various substances to stimulate autoregulatory and self-healing processes. Homeopathy selects substances by matching a patient's symptoms with symptoms produced by these substances in healthy individuals. Medicines are prepared by serial dilution and shaking, which proponents claim imprints information into water. Although many conventional physicians find such notions implausible, homeopathy had a prominent place in 19th-century health care and has recently undergone a worldwide revival. In the United States, patients who seek homeopathic care are more affluent and younger and more often seek treatment for subjective symptoms than those who seek conventional care. Homeopathic remedies were allowed by the 1939 Pure Food and Drug Act and are available over the counter. Some data--both from randomized, controlled trials and laboratory research--show effects from homeopathic remedies that contradict the contemporary rational basis of medicine. Three independent systematic reviews of placebo-controlled trials on homeopathy reported that its effects seem to be more than placebo, and one review found its effects consistent with placebo. There is also evidence from randomized, controlled trials that homeopathy may be effective for the treatment of influenza, allergies, postoperative ileus, and childhood diarrhea. Evidence suggests that homeopathy is ineffective for migraine, delayed-onset muscle soreness, and influenza prevention. There is a lack of conclusive evidence on the effectiveness of homeopathy for most conditions. Homeopathy deserves an open-minded opportunity to demonstrate its value by using evidence-based principles, but it should not be substituted for proven therapies.

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Where is the journalistic skepticism?
Posted by: Skeptico on Jan 30, 2006 12:52 PM   
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This is absolutely the worst articles on homeopathy I have ever read in what is supposed to be independent media (ie outside of homeopathic or “altie” journals). The authors are confusing two things:

1) Whether the flu vaccine is as effective as we’d like, and

2) Whether homeopathy works.

The authors imply a false dilemma – if the flu vaccine is not always effective then try homeopathy. But this is just flawed logic. Sure, the flu vaccine doesn’t always work, but that doesn’t mean homeopathy does. In fact, homeopathy is unmitigated pseudoscientific nonsense that simply does not work. The authors should be ashamed that they applied no journalistic skepticism to this story.

An example of what I mean:

"During the Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, which killed up to 50 million people worldwide, homeopathic physicians in the United States reported very low mortality rates among their patients" (My bold)

Yes, the homeopaths reported low mortality. Big surprise. Was this independently checked? Did the homeopaths check to see if any of their patients died? Would they know if their patients had died? - After all, if someone got so sick that they were likely to die it is unlikely they would go to a homeopath at that point; they would want a real doctor. This is not how we determine if a therapy works or not.

Independent well designed and run clinical studies show that homeopathy is no better than placebo. Homeopathy’s premises were just made up by homeopathy’s founder, Samuel Hahnemann, 200 years ago. These premises (the law of similars and diluting makes the remedy stronger), have never been scientifically validated and in fact are absurd. In 200 years homeopathy has not progressed beyond badly run (and often dishonest) bogus “trials” and the opinions of homeopaths and their patients. There is a reason we use double-blind trials to determine the efficacy of any new therapy – it is because this has proven to be the only way to determine what really works. Why should homeopathy not be required to demonstrate that it works to the same standards of real medicine? Why is it that this magic water defies the simple procedures of testing that works with everything else?

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A Good Reference Book
Posted by: knitter on Jan 30, 2006 1:48 PM   
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Read "The Homeopathic Treatment of Influenza" by Sandra J. Perko for a good overview of the use of homeopathy during epidemics and pandemics.

The Lancet and Nature articles are heavily biased against homeopathy. They pick only the negative studies and ignore the positve ones.

As relates to diluted substances and their ability to affect the immune system, think about how a vaccine works. Hardly anyone says, "Oh the polio virus is so dilute and it has been killed, so there is no way it will protect against polio." Yet, homeopathic remedies are discounted as being old-fashioned quackery because of their extreme dilution.

Homeopathy does work, even with animals who probably are not affected by the placebo effect. Eighteen years ago I started using homeopathic remedies with my family. We find them to be effective, safe, and economical.

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EDUCATIONS PURPOSE IS TO.......
Posted by: imorganic on Jan 30, 2006 2:59 PM   
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"EDUCATIONS PURPOSE IS TO REPLACE AN EMPTY MIND WITH AN OPEN ONE."

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Rebuttal
Posted by: Skeptico on Jan 31, 2006 10:12 AM   
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I wrote a more detailed criticism of this article here

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