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No More Nightmares at Tranquility Bay?

By John Gorenfeld, AlterNet. Posted January 23, 2006.


Largely unregulated, the teen rehab industry has scarred thousands of kids for life. Now one lone congressmember is pushing to stop the abuse.
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From the Czech Republic to Costa Rica and Mexico, cops have seized American overseers for caging or mistreating American teens at harsh "boot camps" run under foreign flags to escape U.S. law.

But here at home, the companies that ship teenagers to remote reform schools can freely go about their business in many states. You can dial 1-800-355-TEEN to reach the sales staff of Teen Help, LLC, who can arrange for your child to be spirited away. They might put you in touch with "escorts," guys who can pull up to your driveway in a van and transport even the most defiant child to the airport. The next destination is up to you: a "tough love" school here in the 50 states, like Majestic Ranch in Utah or Spring Creek Lodge Academy in Montana?

Or perhaps Tranquility Bay, a barbed-wire discipline facility in Jamaica, where some of the approximately 250 teens can find themselves confined against their will and marched around by guards. Only the devil stands in the way of your consumer choice. The devil, that is, and a lone congressman, Rep. George Miller, D-Calif.

Just ask Ken Kay. He's the president of the tightly knit group of Utah men who run these outposts with their families, under the umbrella company World-Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS), whose leaders, critics say, try to hide their role in running the schools by running them under different names. Ken's son Jay, a college dropout who ran a mini-mart in San Diego, now oversees Tranquility Bay, where he had admitted to the media that he squirted pepper spray on his charges in the past.

As a teen at Tranquility Bay, you can't call home and are escorted between rooms by Jamaican "chaperones." Talk out of turn and your punishment might be that a trio of guards wrestles you to the ground. "They start twisting and pulling your limbs, grinding your ankles," a student told the British newspaper The Guardian. Not knowing when you'll go home, you might take cold showers and watch "emotional growth" videos. The promise is that you will return a respectful, happy teen. But many WWASPS alumni who've banded together at online survivor websites like Tranquility Bay Fight and Fornits say their lives haven't been saved, they've been devastated.

Several WWASPS schools have been shut down after abuse claims. Tranquility Bay's counterpart, High Impact, a WWASP affiliate in Mexico, closed in 2002 after dark stories emerged. Teens said they were kept in dog cages. Two parents, Chris Goodwin and Stephanie Hecker, told the Rocky Mountain News their children were made to lie in their underwear for three nights with fire ants roaming over them and were threatened with a cattle prod if they scratched.

In December, Rep. Miller asked Congress's nonpartisan General Accounting Office (GAO) to launch a fact-finding probe into similar schools, claiming the $1.2 billion teen rehabilitation clinic industry is shrouded in secrecy. Miller's office is awaiting word from the GAO on the investigation request. After a call to the GAO, AlterNet was told no decision had been made yet as to whether to launch the study, which would look into whether the industry was receiving special tax treatment or using fraudulent marketing techniques. Asked why he requested the probe, Rep. Miller explained, "Far too little is known about the so-called 'behavior modification' industry, even as it has surged in size since the 1990s, and that is why I have asked the GAO to review it... There is no excuse for allowing children to be placed in unlicensed programs where their physical or emotional health is jeopardized."

But company president Kay told AlterNet he questioned the congressman's motives. "I think that he must just want to be powerful, or seen as, 'oh, the guy that saved all these children from abuse,'" says Kay. "My fear is that he has a vendetta."

The WWASPS schools rake in about $80 million a year. Claiming to enlist about 1,250 students (the official number has dropped from 2,500 in 2003), the company schools are part of a wider industry, estimated to hold 10,000 teenagers, that is rarely covered by the news media.

Miller, senior Democrat on the U.S. House Committee on Education and the Workforce, is pushing for a bill, H.R. 1738, to increase state licensing of the teen control trade and hold Americans who run foreign discipline schools accountable to U.S. laws. Company president Kay, however, suggested Miller may also have a partisan, anti-Republican motive against WWASPS.


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Get these "schools" shut down
Posted by: IfTheyMoveKillEm on Jan 23, 2006 1:06 AM   
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It's sad and astonishing that parents will fork over $40K per year for tuition to help their kids, but the people who they trust their kids to turn out to be sadistic, immoral monsters. I know 3 people that went to "school" in lockdown facilities like the ones described here. 1 of them eventually killed herself, 1 came back to town 2 years later as a complete nutcase and social outcast, and the 3rd one memorized their little school mantras until they released her. She's screwed up now too. The whole thing is evil and it's no surprise the GOP gets cash from these scum. Great article.

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» RE: Get these "schools" shut down Posted by: The Southpaw
» RE: Get these "schools" shut down Posted by: WWASP supporter
Criminal charges warranted
Posted by: iposhares on Jan 23, 2006 3:29 AM   
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The parents and operators of these facilities should be charged criminally with every available charge possible so as to bankrupt them and make examples of people with long prison sentences and asset forfeiture.
It should also be against the law to commit anyone to any such facility without a court order and it should be unlawful to commit anyone to any facility beyond the reach of US law.
It is all ready illegal transport any kid in interstate or foreign commerce for this purpose involuntarily if one can prove torture,involuntary servitude, or sexual exploitation is taking place however the laws should be changed regarding these facilities to make any such involuntary non-judicial confinement to such outside the US or within where not regulated a federal crime punishable by long imprisonment and total asset forfeiture for the operators/facilitators.

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bbetsy
Posted by: bbetsy on Jan 23, 2006 4:25 AM   
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We have many internet sites of surviving teens and their parents about life at these "Teen Boot Camps". Go to http://www.parentadvocates.org and click "Teen Boot Camps" under F for Fraud, and you will see that these camps must be closed.

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» RE: bbetsy Posted by: tomco
a future for vouchers?
Posted by: menckenman on Jan 23, 2006 4:31 AM   
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sounds like the repug education plan under NCLB.

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The Parents Ought to Be Prosecuted for Child Abuse.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 23, 2006 6:20 AM   
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What a country.

Rich parents who don't have the time or love to help their children grow up send them off to be abused.

This is George W. Bush's America.

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So, our acceptance of torture started long before Gitmo!
Posted by: fool-on-the-hill on Jan 23, 2006 7:16 AM   
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I have been wondering for several years how in hell the United States of America has turned into a country that causually accepts torture as an acceptable tactic. Now I feel like I used to be living in some kind of bubble. Did the country I love EVER exist?

No wonder we, as a nation, don't seem to give a damn about human rights abuses in detention facilities run by our government. The neo-cons who are responsible for the excesses of our foreign policy have already been PAYING thugs to torture their own children!

This self-styled new "ruling class" that has emerged to imitate the old "robber barons" is the greatest threat to the United States -- and the world -- that has ever faced us! I'm beginning to think the only solution IS REVOLUTION!

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The new "race" card
Posted by: bookwoman on Jan 23, 2006 7:19 AM   
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Here we go again. Everytime someone attacks a business or person who is connected to the Republicans, either in some great or tenuous way, the response is "oh, they are just partisan or Anti-Repubican". Its an ongoing mantra. Rove did it last week and now this man, Kay, is hiding behind this nonsense. Wouldn't you think the Republican Party would be embarassed at being claimed by all these bad guys.

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Lockdown Camps and Privacy Invasions
Posted by: afrothetics on Jan 23, 2006 7:25 AM   
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This scandal shows why the administration's claim that they want Internet search data is just another lie. The official reason is that they are search for pedophiles. Another lie. When will Americans learn. If these people are breathing, they are lying. The hot button language is already known: national security, sexual deviance, gay marriage, abortion, black crime, pornography, ad nauseum. The porn is what the Bush administration is doing to the American people.

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Welfare worker
Posted by: peacenik on Jan 23, 2006 8:26 AM   
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It could be that the lack of outcry is because the parents of these teens are ashamed of what they have done to their children and won't risk the public exposure. Of course, in doing nothing to stop this, they double their shame.

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Welcome to the Bush family!
Posted by: magistre on Jan 23, 2006 8:32 AM   
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Since these teens ( at least) cross state lines doesn't that put it under federal jurisdiction? Oh, I know, Mr. Bush, we cant question these schools because they're "training" these teens to "fight terrorism"...or some such fascist nonsense.

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NOW WHAT?
Posted by: jrmart66 on Jan 23, 2006 8:36 AM   
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OK, i had never heard of this. never seen any reports on cable or network news, nothing in the major papers. WHY NOT?
AND NOW, WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP?

SUGGESTIONS PLEASE? WHAT ABOUT THE ACLU? LETS ALL GET ON THE STUMP AND STOP THIS CRAP.

And lets not just blame the republicans, (read nazi's). i am sure there must be some Rs witha concience.

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» RE: NOW WHAT? Posted by: AlienSlave
» RE: NOW WHAT? Posted by: mim
» RE: NOW WHAT? Posted by: mim
I Hate Bullying And Abuse
Posted by: ZPaul on Jan 23, 2006 9:19 AM   
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The account of this vicious, money-hungry organization reminds me of the merciless tactics used by a number of cults/religious groups to "enlighten" their victims. This is one more terrible symptom of the sick, corrupt society we have become.
How about writing your congressman, for starters?

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This is why marijuana remains illegal
Posted by: sausage on Jan 23, 2006 9:54 AM   
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More than the law enforcement lobby, the drug treatment/rehabilitation lobby frames the drug legalization/decriminalization debate.

Why legalize marijuana when there is so much money to be made in the rehad industry? It's almost all private sector or church controlled.

Catch the kid smoking pot, bundle him or her off to rehad camp, have him or her receive worse treatment than he or she might in prison and pay big bucks for the privilege.

Ain't American free market capitalism great?!

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BRAT CAMP
Posted by: AlienSlave on Jan 23, 2006 10:08 AM   
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Did anyone see the fall series BRAT CAMP on TV? Holy Mother of all that is sick with this treatment of children. And to put that shit on TV and call it acceptable.
AlienSlave

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» RE: BRAT CAMP Posted by: Ayla87
» RE: BRAT CAMP Posted by: Ayla87
» RE: BRAT CAMP Posted by: mim
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» RE: BRAT CAMP Posted by: Ayla87
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» RE: BRAT CAMP Posted by: Ayla87
EVIL & IMMORAL - BUT PROFITABLE
Posted by: fiskhus on Jan 23, 2006 10:15 AM   
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I believe that it is important to stop this criminal Fundamentalist and Republican "Child Rehab" network from committing further abuse of children.

It will be difficult because to stop these folks, especially because of 2 considerations:

1. The so-called "fundamentalists" or "evangelicals" who pursue the worst in all things human apparently "believe", as an article of "faith", that abuse and bullying are appropriate ways to show love to a child. Leaving aside their failure to follow the tenets of the Christian faith they pretend to espouse, their insistence on violence in society is damaging to our national character.

and

2. Republicans (especially the current administration) believe that fear and obedience are the only acceptable responses from children. While this creates a rigidly (almost militant) fascist voting bloc to be exploited in the future, it undermines our national security by creating a future population of illiterates who will not be able to detect the hypocrisy and deceit issuing from authority, and, therefore, unable and unwilling to challenge authority when necessary.

We must act to shut down these Republican immoralists who would destroy our country and our future generations for personal profit.

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Here's what we should do
Posted by: Stealthdragoon on Jan 23, 2006 10:19 AM   
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Here's my ideas for a solution to the problem of sending kids to a torture camp.

Any parent who sends any teen to these schools to be tortured should
a. Have their reporductive rights, cut and terminated
b. Have their parental rights terminated
c. Automatic ten year prison sentence in a super max prison
d. Have a lifetime ban on kids

Theirs should also be a law baning such places and facilities from operating and reciving any funds what so ever. Any facility that is still operating should be shut down and people operating should be brought up on charges of false imprisonment, child abuse, possibly muder charges and should be given LIFE in prison.

What these parents are doing amounts to sending them to a death sentance and being tortured. These parents should be charged with child abuse, Child endangerment and should be charged with murder as well.

I will tell you this, i have friends who are in prison and they tell me that child abusers do not last that long in prison because once they find out what you did to a kid, they will do the same to you. Inmates in prison consider crimes agains women and kids to be so dispicable that they will do what ever it takes to get to you and punish you for what you did to the kids. I have heard such tales of people going to prison and getting beaten up and stabbed all because they found out that someone did somethe to a woman or a child.

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That's exactly how native Indian Americans get treated up here in the praires
Posted by: SDres11 on Jan 23, 2006 10:23 AM   
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First, we never get an education about these people as they're purposely left out of the history book. Then, the racial hatred begins. Sure, it's not as pronounced as it was before but it's just like our neighboring state of Montana where the same kind of torture hell that's been described in the article continues unabated. Too bad we have fewer courageous liberals to step in.

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broken spirit
Posted by: 2rivers on Jan 23, 2006 10:36 AM   
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i understand these teen-camps to have one purpose and one alone: to break the spirit of the child. once broken, it can be manipulated and controled to do things no healthy/whole human would do.
peace

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There was a discussion regarding this on Kuro5hin...
Posted by: jinseatown on Jan 23, 2006 11:45 AM   
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This discussion from a few years ago on Tranquility Bay also includes links to the orginal guardian articles from a June article in 2003. I couldn't believe it when I heard it.

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Cannon
Posted by: Cannon on Jan 23, 2006 12:36 PM   
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So happens, I'm making a narrative film this spring about a camp like these and the teens' experiences therein. Would love to hear back from any survivors from these places: cannon@eightballflms.com

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» RE: Cannon Posted by: kid_prototype
» RE: Cannon Posted by: rice8180
When the US was shown to be doing such things
Posted by: aida1200 on Jan 23, 2006 1:48 PM   
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to prisoners of war, there was a public outcry that led to the passing of a bi-partisan bill outlawing such atrocities. When parents or guardians are found to have done such things to their children, the resulting scandal usually leads to the enactment of tougher child-protective laws--and to prison time for the perpetrators. What does it take to put an end to such treatment of large numbers of kids by those to whom they've been entrusted? As for the claim that many of these young people go on to attend top-ranked colleges and universities, how about launching a search for them? It wouldn't be hard for any documentary or print article on the subject to include a request for any "alumni" of these hell-holes who are now enrolled in or have graduated from a top institution of higher learning simply to come forth. Should we hold our breath while we wait?

By the way, it's been over twenty years since Stephen King and Peter Straub described such a school in The Talisman--and they're horror writers.

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Becky Gawboy
Posted by: bgawboy on Jan 23, 2006 4:34 PM   
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It is amazing to me that the general public actually believes that the system protects kids in this country. I live in Minnesota, a very progressive state, with a very progressive history and even here children are abused and negelcted by the system as often as they are protected. I am not at all surprised that these horrific things are promoted and these creeps are actually convincing parents that their children will benefit from these strategies. Parents have already abdicated their authority to tv and video games - it is not much of a stretch to turn them over to those who would "fix" their broken teens.
As a foster and adoptive parent to over 70 children, all victims of abuse and neglect, we have discoverd a path to healing our kids that works. Extreme nutrition (no junk food, lots of fresh fruit and vegies, homebaked bread and home cooked meals), lots of fresh air and exercise (a 3 mile hike is a breeze for our kids), no tv or video games (but a houseful of good books), constant supervision (and consistent support for all their sports, music, and other activities), the loving guidance of alcohol and drug free parents, and a spiritual life that isn't relegated to Sunday mornings (in our case non Christian, traditional American Indian). We are full time parents, but our own healthy, loving relationship is essential to our success (that and a sense of humor!). Our disclipline is based on natural consequences and is administered without anger. Our rules are clear and consistent and provide a safety net for kids who have never known consistency. What could possibly motivate anyone to use torture and deprivation to help troubled teens? Clearly the motivation for these idiots is not assiting teens to become better citizens, but rather chalking up profits for themselves. We believe that what you put into the circle of life comes back to you. It is only that belief that keeps me sane.

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» RE: Becky Gawboy Posted by: mim
Worthy of a horror writer
Posted by: mim on Jan 23, 2006 6:51 PM   
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Sheesh! After I read the two-part article in the Guardian, I felt that I'd read a horror story, one that I couldn't shake by telling myself, "It's only a story."

2rivers, you're right on the money. And good for you, AlienSlave. What were the charges that they brought you up on?

I bet there won't be any more reporters doing exposes of Tranquility Bay. (And what a lovely name for such a hell-hole!)

So let's see:
If I kill another person with my own hands (other than in self-defense), I'm guilty of murder.
If I pay someone else to kill another person, I'm guilty of murder.
If I imprison and torture my child, I'm guilty of child abuse.
If I pay someone else to imprison and torture my child--

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» RE: Felony Charges.......... Posted by: AlienSlave
» RE: Felony Charges.......... Posted by: AlienSlave
Harley
Posted by: Harley on Jan 23, 2006 7:02 PM   
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http://www.buzzflash.com/premiums/05/10/pre05148.html

Above is a link and review of Julia Scheeres'
best selling memoir of her and her brother's
time spent in a similar environment.
She survived, An excellent book for young
adult readers. It's called "JESUS LAND"
Surprised no one mentioned it here...

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resouces for those who want to fight this industry and help youth
Posted by: kid_prototype on Jan 23, 2006 7:22 PM   
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hi, my name's sarah and i've been involved w/ confronting thse institutions for a while, my boyfriend was in a behavoir modification program called the family foundation school for 2 yrs. We do a project called the Misled Youth Network (misled-youth.org) that addresses these issues and others, and on our forums people are talking about making a documentary and taking other forms of action. Below are some sites that can serve as resouces for those interested in learning more.

feel free to email me at misledyouthinfo@yahoo.com, and many thanks to John Gonrefeld who wrote this article

theicarusproject.net is an online community forum by and for people living with bipolar disorder and other forms of madness. Over a thousand users communicate with each other about all aspects of what it means to have a different way of thinking

teenliberty.org was created by Alexia Parks, the author of American Gulag: Secret POW Camps for Kids. It contains a number of articles, letters, and links relating to behavior modification programs.

freechild.org this is a great resource with the tagline "connecting young people and social change".

nospank.net focuses on the issue of child abuse in general, but it also has a vast library of articles and documents relating to behavior modification programs.

isaccorp.org ditto

fornits.com has a few web forums in which people discuss behavior modification programs

amazingforums.com/forum/B54 has a forum about BMP’s

thestraights.com is devoted to exposing the abuse at a notorious program called Straight, Inc.

mindfreedom.org is an international website promoting the human rights of those living with mental illness.

tausa.org the website of Teen Advocates USA

prisonactivist.org is "the source for progressive and radical information on prisons and the criminal prosecution system."

school-survival.net this website is by and for kids who don't like school and are looking for alternatives. Also try www.rise.za.net

youthrights.org is the website of the National Youth Rights Assocaition, which has over 6000 young members. The websites has forums and more.

nyc.youthrights.org the page of the NYC chapter of NYRA

youthrights.net a network of youth rights resources that anyone can edit

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Cafety
Posted by: crumbs on Jan 23, 2006 7:34 PM   
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www.cafety.org

Community Alliance for the Fair and Ethical Treatment of Youth

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Tranquility Bay Mission Statement
Posted by: Armafied on Jan 23, 2006 10:59 PM   
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The mission of Tranquility Bay is to challenge and motivate the student in a structured, individualized learning environment, which provides exposure to development of skills and attitudes necessary for academic and social success so they become mature, responsible and contributing members of society.

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I expect the children aren't allowed to call home for a reason.
Posted by: Samantha Vimes on Jan 23, 2006 7:58 PM   
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Let's not accuse all parents who pay for this child abusers. They were conned by con artists. Most of them are probably not malicious, only gullible.

Some probably *do* have an inkling of what goes on and deserve criticism, but there are probably many more parents mourning their child's mistreatment.

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Lizka says...
Posted by: Lizka on Jan 24, 2006 12:56 AM   
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Yes. The only thing which the above-signed with my knowledge of psychology would like to add in comment to all this: I think it is pretty apparent that the methods of many of these schools (particularly Tranquility Bay and all other who use the "levels" and "privileges" system)... is that it is based on the old, yes, bribery is actually a good name for it - psychologists' way for making kids comply, which is called the "privileges" or "tokens" system... the notion being that once kids have done enough of a particular desired action, they can then exchange it for some sort of treat - rather like rats pressing levers for food. It's all based on the psychological movement known as "behaviourism"... much of which is still pretty popular!

Only, of course, if you put the human in an environment where he/she is in fact pretty much deprived, then the treats don't have to be as good, do they.... starve them or sensorily deprive them, and even a scrap of food or being allowed "normal" movement instead of being locked 24/7... that would seem like a "reward"... which of course is what behaviourism is all based on. (But personally I think they have got it all wrong, even from the practical point of view; and they should know from research done on animal training that if you treat an animal meanly, it becomes very mean itself, and withdrawn, and in the end refuses to do anything but the bare minimum. You've got to keep the animals happy, if you want to manipulate them - that's a fact.)

I think that these schools do it their way, because they don't want to think of imaginative inducements for their "behavioural program", or spend money on better food or culinary treats.

But I think the British way of doing it worked better - they used to feed the kids cream cakes!! So I read in an article about child behaviour modification. Well, at least it was better intentioned.

Yes, "token economy", that's what this sort of game was called over here. I don't know if they do it any more, in any of these lockdown facilities for kids in Britain.

But anyway, it is all based on "manipulation"... rather than on asking the person whose life it is, how they would like to develop and grow.

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Lizka continued
Posted by: Lizka on Jan 24, 2006 1:00 AM   
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BUT.... every time someone mentions those evil Commies in the Orient as having started the brainwashing game... you can blame Western behaviourists and B. F. Skinner just as much!! So there! They both treat people as subjects to be done to.

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Czechoslovakia is no longer a country.....
Posted by: zil on Jan 24, 2006 6:24 AM   
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...it hasn't been since early 1993.

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Dictatorial Freedom called Democracy
Posted by: crumbs on Jan 24, 2006 11:37 AM   
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Gorenfeld asks:
Why haven't stories like the ones by Weiner and Kilzer, Pulitzer winners both, caused a public outcry and swift government reaction?

There certainly has been some outcry by the young people, myself included, who have been abused by facilitators at these programs, but it seems that in our culture- very utilitaritarian on the one hand- where force obedience end jsutify the means- even if that entails lasting and permenant damage to some/many, as well as out need to quite dissent and silence those who who are not blindly and uncritically obedient, over questioning authority and their (frequent) corruption...Indeed, America is in a sad sad state...Very sad...but this should not come as a shock as we ultimately have set the stage up for the few wealthy and powerful to call the shots. We all know what happens when we call a dictatorship democracy and slavery is called freedom... what we have now... :-(

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"Schools?" "Boot Camps?"
Posted by: yesman on Jan 24, 2006 7:57 PM   
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Puhleeze. Let's at least call these hell-holes what they are: torture camps where kids can be "disappeared" if their bourgeois parents find it too inconvenient to raise them. It's no surprise that the Republicans are complicit in this evil--after all, they're more than happy to spend taxpayer money extravagantly to build prisons for our world-beating prison population, and they're all too happy to send suspected "terrorists" (read: their political opponents) to secret foreign and domestic torture chambers under military rule. So, this is right up their alley.

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» RE: "Schools?" "Boot Camps?" Posted by: aida1200
RedRobin
Posted by: RedRobin on Jan 24, 2006 8:05 PM   
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One thing I did not see in the comments (I may have missed this) was the idea that these kids have been tried and found guilty by their parents, and have been sentenced to prison. These kids did not get any due process, simply because they are minors, and subject to their parents.
These so-called "schools" are an extreme example of the fact that children only have whatever rights their parents grant them.
The link to conservative Christianity is unfortunate and repulsive. Why do some so-called "Christians" commit such terrible things in the name of God?

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» RE: edRobin Posted by: AlienSlave
» RE: edRobin Posted by: mim
» RE: edRobin Posted by: AlienSlave
Petition in support of Regulation
Posted by: crumbs on Jan 25, 2006 2:27 AM   
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PLEASE SIGN

This petition is in support of Senator Millers END INSTITUTIONAL CHILD ABUSE ACT

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12 steps vs Religious based
Posted by: crumbs on Jan 25, 2006 11:23 AM   
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many of these facilities are not explicitly religiously based. Most apprear to be 12 step based, and their religious foundation is linked text debatable.

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