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Whose Fault Is Frey?

By John Dolan, AlterNet. Posted January 17, 2006.


Fans of disgraced author James Frey didn't value his writing -- they revered the moral of his story and his bad-boy bio that backed it up.
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Who gets the blame when a con man robs the congregation blind? That's the real question in the case of James Frey.

Frey was nobody a few years back, a hack screenwriter whose best-known credit was an obscure romance movie with the weirdly prescient title “Loving A Fool.” That changed suddenly in 2003, when his debut rehab memoir “A Million Little Pieces” (2003) was published -- after being rejected by 17 publishers, who all deserve medals for service to literature.

AMLP was a huge success, with copies of it disappearing faster than cocaine at an advertising company's Christmas party. Amazon named it "Best Book of the Year." Frey's follow-up, “My Friend Leonard” (2005) was even worse than a AMLP, a thing I would not have thought possible, and almost as successful. A few months ago came the high-water mark of Frey's fame, when he went on Oprah and was welcomed as a saint of self-help, a paragon of romance and a literary genius.

Then, just a few days ago, Frey fell. The Smoking Gun website published an exposé detailing all the lies and exaggerations in Frey's boasts about his bad-boy past. It turned out that Frey's total prison time amounts to a few hours, and his crimes were what you'd expect of a frat boy, infractions involving beer and cars.

The reaction was fast and violent. America, a nation that often behaves like a congregation, was outraged, as if the preacher had been found in the wrong bed on Sunday morning.

Although I understand their shock, I can't share their indignation. As a former academic who's written extensively on reader belief and forgery in literature, I've come to realize that it's the audiences who create forgeries like Frey's. Audiences who fall for this kind of forgery usually know better; they buy the fake because it confirms beliefs that are seen as fragile. Forgers count on that and happily rake in the cash and the adoration in return for shoring up shaky tribal myths.

Frey did exactly that for his readers, his "true" story reinforcing their belief that drugs = evil, that people are transformed in midlife, and that the individual can do miracles. In other words, Frey did a favor for a very mixed-up set of audiences, from DEA creeps to fans of Hollywood love stories, to wavering followers of self-help manuals.

So there's much more at stake here than a literary dispute. In fact, one of the more striking aspects of the current Frey debate is that Frey's fans don't care about literary quality one way or another. After two years of squabbling with these people online, I know what matters to them. Aesthetes they are most definitely not. What they valued was the moral of Frey's story, and the bad-boy bio authenticating it.

When that crumbled, nobody thought he was a good writer anymore. This too is typical of response to literary fraud; as long as the faked background of the book is believed true, the book is praised as magnificent. Once the readers know its grimy, self-serving origins, nobody sees any merit in it anymore. English professors may invoke that very slippery term, "fiction," saying that Frey's readers have no right to demand truth -- but they're dead wrong. Frey's history has nothing to do with fiction.

Indeed, anyone who's had to wade through Frey's godawful writing should have seen that he has neither literary talent nor authenticity as a druggie.

Perhaps that sounds a bit cocky. Well, I've got the record to back it up, because in a review I published in May 29, 2003, I started off by saying that AMLP was "the worst thing I've ever read" and went on to say that Frey was a phony, his characters recycled Hollywood types, his female lead, "Lilly," wholly invented and his story downright silly.

Now that Frey's been caught, I'm getting lots of emails praising me for seeing through Frey. But it was easy. The real question is, why couldn't the rest of the literate public see it?

In researching literary frauds, I've learned that the quality of the fraudster's writing is surprisingly unimportant in the success of the fraud. Thomas Chatterton, one of the most talented 18th-century fraudsters, killed himself, bitter and ashamed because no one wanted his faked medieval texts, whereas a few years later, James MacPherson, a cunning fake, became wealthy and adored for ridiculous "ancient Celtic epics" that were obvious pastiches of Milton, the Bible and other grand literature.

The reason the hack MacPherson succeeded and the brilliant Chatterton failed is that MacPherson's Scottish readers wanted desperately to believe in his faked texts. Expanding in confidence, growing rich after union with England, Scots wanted a national "classical" literature and took it when offered, ignoring the cheesy, obvious absurdities it contained.


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John Dolan is an editor at the Moscow-based English alternative paper, The eXile. He is the author of, most recently, Pleasant Hell (Capricorn, 2005).

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EPITOME
Posted by: ssegallmd on Jan 17, 2006 4:09 AM   
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How appropriate that this story includes the cult of Oprah and its maudlin obsessions and soap opera mentality. The story is an epitome of America itself: inauthenticity powered by a desperate will to believe happy fairy tales. Truth continues on its holiday among the American people in their dereliction as citizens, and with it, their (our) republic and ability to self-govern. Why shouldn't a nation suffer for that?

The American character is now bereft of integrity or even decency, and in their place has arisen a national arrogance, ignorance, fear and belligerence. with a desperate desire to believe that its own former greatness be proclaimed by the rest of the world which, instead, resents and distrusts us, both our enemies and our one-time allies. Hence, "They hate us because they envy us our freedom". *That* is the de facto American dream. And, as George Carlin says, they call it that, "because you’d have to be f@#king asleep to believe it".

It would be a great cosmic injustice if Americans did not suffer for their intellectual and moral laziness. Hell, this book is no more fictitious than the American mythology or, sadly, the U.S. constitution with its delineation of the proper functions of government and of the limitations and division of its power. Or the bumper sticker lies of self-deception: ‘I support the troops’, ‘These colors don’t run’, ‘Fear nothing’. ‘God Bless America’ and more.

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Who is to Blame?
Posted by: ChristopherLL on Jan 17, 2006 4:33 AM   
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Those people in true recovery, and there are over 144 different addictions, are safe from the fabrications of a lonely and frustrated person such as Frey. Humility is the critical character element essential to any addict's success at sobriety and that is wholey missing in the book.
This article does expose the true essence of this literary debacle and that is the uncritical embrace of the story. Oprah Winfrey especially has missed a chance to present herself as an educated and intelligent celebrity by admitting her mistake rather than continuing to support and continue an opinion held soley on the grounds of her own need for illusion and dillusion. If she indeed wants to read a book about redemption no author was better than Dovestyevsky and Crime and Punishment. But that requires complex characters and true life experiences, not juvenille wishes and needs.
The fact seems to be that many people now have a difficult time growing up and facing life as it is and not how they would like it to be. In a society that lives their lives through characters in television and movies reality is more than they can process. It is both a revelation and a setback for how a significant portion of the population view addiction and literature, unfortuately. The question is who is to blame?

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agitator church and state
Posted by: eileenflmng on Jan 17, 2006 5:06 AM   
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A very enlightening article for me
as I have written FICTION with a FICTIONAL ADDICT who converses with REAL people-as this reporter actually did- during 16 Days in Israel Palestine June 2005 available FREE on WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org


This reporter shed her fictional skins in October and has been reporting the brutal truth on the WAWA BLOG and on Opednews.com [eileen fleming] ever since.

http://www.wearewideawake.org

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Fact or Fiction or some of both?
Posted by: zipper696 on Jan 17, 2006 5:21 AM   
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Surely we've been here not long ago with Dave Peltzer and "A child called It".
Initially it was "My God, this is terrible, what a nightmare childhood, how brave he was to survive it" - then his siblings started commenting that he had been more than a little creative in his writing and suddenly he was seen to fall from Grace.
Memoirs are always subjective, we all misremember people and events, so errors can creep in. But in Frey's case it seems that a little locker room boasting got turned into turgid prose and passed as real...for a while.

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AA is a cult...
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Jan 17, 2006 5:38 AM   
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...or very close. The author of this article is absolutely right about people's need to buy into the myths in Frey's book. When I was a senior in high school getting straight A's and excelling in 4 foreign languages, and working at a job I liked, I tried alcohol. I immediately had a problem. I became quickly addicted. Of course I had no adventures like Frey.

My parents took money out of retirement and sent me to rehab. There, I was bombarded with messages that my problem could only be cured with the Magical 12 Steps. I was subjected to AA's "conform or die" message. "Work the 12 Steps, read the Big Book". "If you don't go to 90 meetings in 90 days, you will drink. If you drink, you will die." As a frightened and ashamed young woman, I believed them. I attended for a few months. I took their advice. It did nothing for me, except perpetuate the feelings of shame. (After all, they are "anonymous".)

Now I only consumed alcohol for 8-9 years of my life. But I carried shame for 25 years. The damage to my psyche is not attributable to the fact that I cannot handle alcohol - it is due to the fact that society tells me that my body's intolerance for this very powerful drug is somehow connected to a behavioral problem and that only with the 12 steps can I find "redemption" (I ask, why do I need "redemption" for trying a legal recreational drug, which happens to be addictive and getting addicted to it? I did not choose that outcome. AA is responsible for driving this message into popular culture).

This group has admitted to something like a 25% "success" rate. They define "success" as refraining from drinking for only 1 year. (I have not drank for 18, without them) Well, that's pretty abysmal. Yet they manage to pervade our court system, our health care system, popular culture. They are insidious. And just go to any "Self/Help-Recovery" section of Borders. Publishers make millions recycling the same crappy, ineffective messages.

Society needs to have a reality check. If a person eats shellfish and has an allergic reaction, they are not bundled off into a 12 step program. My addiction to alcohol is just that - an undesirable, inappropriate response to an addictive, recreational drug. If you put an addictive drug out into the population, a certain segment of the population is going to get addicted. It's that simple, and there's no myth to it.

cont'd...

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AA is a cult...
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Jan 17, 2006 5:39 AM   
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....I forsee a day when those of us who develop an addiction to this addictive drug are not going to be told we must sneak around at night to anonymous "support" groups for the rest of our lives.

It is burdensome to be surrounded by people who think that if I break a fingernail, I have to call a sponsor or run to a meeting. AA is responsible for perpetuating this myth. I would hazard a guess that they do as much damage to people as they help, if not more.

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magical thinking
Posted by: xenacat on Jan 17, 2006 6:22 AM   
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The whole Frey debacle is predictable, given our current cultural state of denial. The same williful gullibility that allows far too many folks to blindly follow Oprah's inane book recommendations also allows them to swallow every damn lie that Dubya's machine puts out. It's easier to read made up crap than do some real, honest to God thinking for oneself and that explains in a nutshell our current pitiful state of affairs. Frey sold the Hollywood version of redemption- so trite and familiar that it couldn't help but sell. Sad as hell.

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It Takes Many Forms
Posted by: danjkelly2 on Jan 17, 2006 6:23 AM   
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It seems Mr. Frey was able to really feed his ego through half-truths and innuendo. Given the tone of his writing, it seems Mr. Dolan uses the exposure of the truth to accomplish the same ends.

"The world always makes the assumption that the exposure of an error is identical with the discovery of the truth -- that error and truth are simply opposite. They are nothing of the sort. What the world turns to, when it has been cured of one error, is usually simply another error, and maybe one worse than the first one."
-H.L. Mencken

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You said what I wanted to say...
Posted by: packofwolves on Jan 17, 2006 6:49 AM   
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Believe it or not, I work in a CD treatment facility and this book swept around the staff like wildfire at Christmastime. Our adminsitrator suggested we all read it and I did. I felt like an outcast when I struggled through the poorly written book with cardboard characters. When I was asked what I thought of it I responded truthfully, that it was poorly written, totally unbelievable, and Frey was a phoney. That was not well received. When I sent around an article about the controversy when it was recently brought to my attention, our administrator still insisted the book had value. I have been in CD treatment for five years, I am not an alcoholic or drug addict, but nothing in this book ringed true for me - the people in Frey's book couldn't be further from real.

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A tiny, nagging suspicion
Posted by: aida1200 on Jan 17, 2006 8:19 AM   
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What does Mr. Dolan think of Jean Sasson's Princes Sultana trilogy? I've seen nothing online suggesting that it's anything but the authentic memoirs of a Saudi princess somehow conveyed to an American writer friend, but I wonder.

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It seems to me
Posted by: McJulie on Jan 17, 2006 8:41 AM   
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The success of this book seems very similar to the success of those other contemporary bestselling piles of tripe, the Left Behind series, and The DaVinci code. That is, they are badly, BADLY written books which purport to be "based on truth" and become runaway bestsellers, spawning whole associative industries.

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Turnpike Tom
Posted by: honeyrose on Jan 17, 2006 9:22 AM   
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The author is correct: as Steve Goodman sang in Turnpike Tom, "You only fall for lies and stories when you really want to..." However there is enough blame to go around. The audience may have been willingly gullible, but look at the rest of these jokers. Frey believed his own lies--not surprising. In order to justify her own infallibility of judgment, Oprah sent the message to Frey that using people is ok; that deception does not hurt; that lies do not have consequences. This is the last message we as a society need
to hear. To my way of thinking, more culpable than Frey and Winfrey is Doubleday, which apparently not only bought the lie, but cultivated it into being. If the author first submitted his work as fiction, only to be told that to sell it, he must present it as a memoir, the publisher can have no credible defense to its duping its own customers. The publishers owe their reading public more than that. If Frey's flaw is deception, and Oprah's hubris is that she can do no wrong, Doubleday's defect is its contempt for the readers who support its very reason for being. In my book, that is nefarious.

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In a Rovian World...
Posted by: tcx2 on Jan 17, 2006 10:04 AM   
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we would simply cart the merchandise over to the "Ficiton" side of the store and pretend it was always there to begin with.

There is a sweet irony to the situation. I'm reminded of Fight Club where Tyler sells rich women their own fat asses back to them. The Oprah clubbers wanted to read about a scoundrel, and now they were taken advantage of by one.

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what's that sound in the nest?
Posted by: eichorn on Jan 17, 2006 10:52 AM   
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A cuckoo bird. You are nice n' crazy mister commenter.

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publishers REJECTED it as non-fiction
Posted by: deborama on Jan 17, 2006 10:54 AM   
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What's important to remember here is that by Frey's own reckoning, his book was REJECTED by 17 publishers when he submitted it as a work of fiction. Doubleday was one of those 17. But when Frey re-submitted it as a "memoir," they published it as such.

Therefore the only reason Frey's book was even published was that he lied and called it a memoir. Incredible that a major publisher like Doubleday had no problem doing that.

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Stand up for Frey!
Posted by: werely on Jan 17, 2006 1:44 PM   
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What the hell is this? This essay and these comments are going about as if everything is proven fact. Last time I checked, Frey denied the accusations, and Oprah Winfrey has gone out of her way to defend him. Why haven't any of his fans spoken up?!

I've been a fan of Frey's for two years now, and if what he says about addictions is so false, how come it's the best and closest approximation of my own life? Not only this, dozens of friends of mine have gone on to read his work. WE LOVE IT.

This is literary jealousy. How many books has this John Dolan sold? Oh, barely any? What a surprise.

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Drugs and Excellence
Posted by: Petro on Jan 17, 2006 2:36 PM   
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...Have you ever said publicly, "Well, I've taken drugs and I loved 'em, and none of my friends are addicts, so I think the whole thing's crap"?

I have.


And so have I. Damn right.

Your comments regarding quality vs. veracity reminded me of something. I have a copy of a rare but poorly-written book on a controversial and relatively unknown episode in American history (The Plot To Seize The White House", by Jules Archer), and my first impulse if anything were to be found fraudulent (I doubt it), then I would immediately set to viscerating the author for his primitive sentence structures, its repetitive and dry phrasing, and overall awkwardness.

As it stands now - for what it illuminates, I find it a great work. ;)

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And, now.... Oprah!
Posted by: afrothetics on Jan 17, 2006 3:15 PM   
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I was totally shocked that Oprah actually made a personal phone call on national TV to support Frey. When I read that, the lightbulb went off. I used to think that Oprah's addiction was food. Now, I believe that it's transcendance. To have -- or create even -- a problem that you can overcome with delimited pain from which you get that natural high. Of course, most of us could live with that agenda if we had her talent to make money.

The other side of the coin, however, is more serious. Is Oprah's story flawed like Frey's? Her comment that the truth of his story was not important, that if it helped someone that's all that mattered should make a lot of her audience cynical about her "triumphs over disaster". But, as John Dolan writes, in the US who cares about truth anymore?

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A Latter Day Pat Boone?
Posted by: Kneel on Jan 17, 2006 3:38 PM   
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Good article. I picked up the book, looked at a few pages, put it back down. Since it didn't seem credible even to me, and I have a terrible BS detector, I couldn't understand why it was all the rage.

Later, I saw a picture of the guy. Was he wearing a lot of foundation, after a lot of very expensive plastic surgery? How else to explain that all the thrashings he'd been through, from whatever varied sources, had left no traces? I wondered if there was a portrait in an attic somewhere getting more hideous by the day.

What amazes me about this, and the JT Leroy fraud, is that there are so many people who do live through this sort of thing, and I can't understand why their story isn't interesting, why it's always got to come from some sheltered and privileged fraud (kinda reminds me of when they got Pat Boone to cover Little Richard, etc.). It's interesting, all the celebrities loving these stories, as though relishing the chance to get a taste (from a safe remove) of the real lives they don't feel like they're actually living ('cause they're not).

It's like those old movies with dark-skinned savages who are all mindless killers and cannibals (or new movies - seen King Kong?). Or the certainly with which the fair skinned declaim that in certain areas of town, they would would instantly be attacked just for their skin shade by their darker brethren (when, in fact, it's the other way around). We know what those people (be they addicts, darkies, Papists, migrants, Portugooses, etc.) are like, and don't tell us any different. Savages, the lot.

I think the article is correct, many people prefer the myths. Especially about drugs.

I've never quite figured that out, nor all the hatred surrounding so-called drug use. I guess someone writing about, say, a stockbroker with a decades long heroin habit or a video editor enjoying a lot recreational drug use without suffering some dire consequences, but just using them as part of their otherwise prosaic lives, isn't so interesting because we know that couldn't possibly be true.

They'd have to be crazed maniacs. We all know that one toke of marijuana and next thing you know you've killed your grandmother to Buy More Drugs. Don't try to lie to us by telling us anything else.

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AA is Calivinism repackaged
Posted by: Vyking on Jan 17, 2006 4:26 PM   
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I don't know if there's a reference to it in psychology, but Calvinist Christianity certainly resembles AA. You're dead without Jesus/You're dead without AA; Change your playmates playthings and play places/Turn away from the world and be not of it; Convert others to Jesus/Practice the 12th step and carry the message to other alcoholics; Take the bible literally/You're best thinking got you into AA (ie, don't think for yourself or ask questions in both cases). And those are just the similarities that I came up with off the top of my head.

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» RE: AA is Calivinism repackaged Posted by: danjkelly2
as an alcoholic, book generally rings true
Posted by: gymper11 on Jan 17, 2006 5:30 PM   
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Though the details might be overblown, the accounts of detoxing and the feelings of needing to fill a void rang true. "Additions need fuel". Enough so that I felt the author understand alcoholism and addiction and had been through it. If not, he certainly created a character that understood it.
Also, although a member of a twelve-step fellowship, the criticisms of membership and the 12 steps rang true as well. I'm only half-way through the book - but I don't really care if it's it true or not. It's a good account. I don't understand why the author of this article is so angry about it's not being true or the quality of the writing. I don't think anyone pretends this is literature but as far as an engrossing tail - it is.

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Bad Book, Worse Response
Posted by: danjkelly2 on Jan 17, 2006 7:16 PM   
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I don't like the way this whole thing has unfolded either, and I'm certainly not here to defend Frey...my sister gave me the book and I couldn't get through the first five pages, it just seemed so unbelievable to me. The facts need to come out and Frey and Oprah and Doubleday all need to step up and take responsibility (I'm not holding my breath). What I don't understand, however, is the anatagonism towards those who read the book, apparenttly somehow benefitted from it, and are now being taken to task because they refuse to join the angry hordes in completely banishing everything about it. They shouldn't be made to throw out the baby with bath water.

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Just Compensation
Posted by: pixiequix on Jan 17, 2006 7:50 PM   
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So, is he going to pass on some of his millions in earnings on to the people whose lives he borrowed and defamed? Maybe some large donations to a few rehab clinics?

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Emotional hook
Posted by: wolf on Jan 18, 2006 1:32 AM   
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A fine article with astute comments. I am a writer overseas and haven't read the book therefore am in no position to judge the truth and accuracy of his experience.

That said, I will relate a small tale. In 2003 I pitched a memoir to agents at a writer's conference. It contains material about my time in detox and out-patient group.
I didn't need to fabricate or embellish anything. I was too busy taking objective notes surrounded by addicts looking for meaning in their lives.

In group they said if you didn't attend AA you couldn't come to group. I went to one AA meeting and didn't need it. I knew I had the strength to work on my own personal puzzle with structure and stability. Fine.

All the agents passed on my work, thinking, "Can I make 15% on this?"

A well known literary agent from LA said readers "wanted" something like, "Running With Sissors," and memoirs were a tough sell. Writers need a hook to get an agent and they in turn need a hook to convince publishers it'll move. It's a busine$$.

It appears Mr. Frey found his hook, line and sinker.
Regards,
TML

You can find my work at:
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Maybe it's all just a little karmic payback
Posted by: m92tiger on Jan 18, 2006 7:20 AM   
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I think Frey embellished (however heavily) his memoir for exactly the same reasons I would have to in my own addiction memoir in order to get it published/sold. Not because I'm a fraud wanting to pretending I have an addiction, but because of the brilliant point this book is making by this ensuing controversy -- people expect addict's stories to be like what Frey detailed in his. If they aren't like that, as bad and crazy and over the top, then people consider your addiction a fraud. And for the 12-steppers out their outraged by this "book of lies" and who also claim "yeah I could tell it was all bs when I read it" -- Frey's story, true or not is highly reminiscent of the rambling tragic tales I heard at hundreds of AA meetings -- sometimes it seemed like a sick competition of who got closest to the edge before not falling off...I also would like to know how you don't know people at your meetings aren't just as big of fibbers -- are you checking their police records? Are you following them around day and night, past and present life? Of course not, right. Because the accuracy of the stories isn't the point. The point is that if a story resonates and helps even one person in the room, then that's the point of the story telling in the first place. You're all so outraged by his lies, as if you're forgetting how big of liars you all were once. I understand honesty is important to recovery. But embellishing a tale of addiction and helping people by telling the story in the first place is not the same as hiding/lying about your addiction to all your loved ones, coworkers, friends...

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Book Review
Posted by: lezzbo on Jan 18, 2006 11:26 AM   
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As a struggling writer, I shudder at the entire Frey episode. Is my only hope for success kissing up to Oprah's sanctimonious butt? If it is, does it really matter what I write?

I'd just like to add that the review of AMLP was one of the funniest book reviews I've ever read.

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Big Deal
Posted by: seedless on Jan 18, 2006 2:32 PM   
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It was a memoir coming from a self proclaimed drug addict, do you think his memory was picture perfect? No. So he embellished a bit so what it still makes for a great book.
Seedless

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Read the article
Posted by: tom_2727 on Jan 18, 2006 7:41 PM   
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Read the article. This isn't a memoir where the guy forgot a few dates and names. He didn't change a few small details. He pretty much made everything up wholesale. He ain't sorry about it either.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/jamesfrey/0104061jamesfrey1.html

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This Just In...
Posted by: m92tiger on Jan 19, 2006 2:25 PM   
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I'm not quite sure why I'm using this blog as a springboard for promoting political action...but...I guess because the current hubbub around Frey the Fraud epitomizes how media controls what the public gets worked up about...so with that said...if you haven't already, check out a good article on here (AlterNet) in the Top Stories section called the President Does Not Know Best and in reading the comments (some quite interesting as well) posted there I was enlighted to a website I hadn't been to yet...www.wearewideawake.org. I haven't had too much of a chance to check it out too much yet, but it looks like it's got some good counterspin articles, points, etc. on it. Ok, I am now promising myself that this will be my last post on this blog...and to start using my time more wisely...and improve my work ethic while I'm at it...oops. Peace.

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Somebody give Dolan a nationally-syndicated column, fast
Posted by: Jakkk on Jan 19, 2006 6:20 PM   
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The best thing for me about the Frey fiasco has been my (criminally-overdue, sorry) introduction to the writing of Jim Dolan. I thought that grown-up American writers of his kind were ancient history. Bravo.

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...and if they do, they should get his by-line right, obviously.
Posted by: Jakkk on Jan 19, 2006 6:28 PM   
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Sorry, 'John Dolan', not 'Jim'.

Doh.

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rover
Posted by: Roverton on Jan 20, 2006 1:00 AM   
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C'mon kids,

LET'S KEEP OUR EYES ON THE BALL!

We should know better than to fall for this vapid horseshit.

We took the bait, hook line and sinker and we're sliding into irrellevance here.

This is like busting Martha Stewart and letting lots of the much worse crooks slip by.

How embarrassing for us. Get frosty, gang. What are we being duped into focussing on now?

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Liar
Posted by: BlueTigress on Jan 20, 2006 11:13 AM   
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So, if Frey had written this as a novel based on "actual events" would it be generating as much fuss, or would it be languishing on the markdown table along with all the mid-level romance novels?

Best as I can tell, people are angry that he took them for a ride and is not sorry.

Don't care.

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Much ado about nothing
Posted by: grambo on Jan 20, 2006 4:36 PM   
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I really don't care about all the controversy. The truth is this book is BORING. I'm only half through and sick of him puking everywhere and all the shit he claims he's gone through. Some of the things he says couldn't have happened. He claims to have had dental work, root canals,caps etc. without anesthesia. BULLSHIT! They would have at least given him Novocain. That isn't a drug that would harm him. I can see no Percocets. But no Novocain? Never! Give me a good mystery anyday.

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Dorian Frey
Posted by: Roland on Jan 21, 2006 7:47 AM   
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I confess that I had not heard of John Frey before this. But after reading Dolan's article it seems to me that there is a picture of John "Dorian" Frey that resembles most Americans these days. It cannot be overstated just how dangerous it is for any one person much less an entire nation to so despaerately believe in the lie. The American Dream cum nightmare. This is not just to slam America or Americans as Chris Mathews and Bill O'Reilly may interpret it; it is to say however that we, as Americans, cannot afford the deception any longer. In calmer, less consequential times, perhaps we were charming -- those corny, idealistic, loveable Americans. Now, our charm is that of the laughing lunatic. It is out of control and the consequences are severe.

As corny and ldealistic as it may sound, our only salvation is the truth. And it is VERY hard to come by. Thanks John Dolan for a dose of it. I'm hooked!

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WHATEVER
Posted by: atomic on Jan 21, 2006 9:16 PM   
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What is all this. The book is great. Who's cares if it's not all true. It's true enough as a story about addiction. What a bunch of pussies. I'd like to see the negitive big mouths write any kind of story much less something as good as this....

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Oprah is THE BIGGEST EGOMANIAC!!!
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