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In December 2005, Evo Morales buried seven challengers -- taking 54 percent of the vote -- in what the New York Times referred to as "the most important election since Bolivia's transition from dictatorship to democracy a generation ago." His platform appealed to the poor, including farmers whose main source of income, coca plants, caused them to suffer brutal treatment at the hands of U.S. drug agents. Although U.S. politicians and the media have denounced coca because it is used to produce cocaine, the fact is that it is extremely important in the Andes as a legal remedy for altitude sickness, digestive problems and other illnesses.
Evo Morales is the latest in a long list of democratically elected Latin American presidents whose primary appeal is their opposition to U.S., IMF and World Bank policies that favor foreign corporations with reputations for exploiting natural resources and local labor. Bolivia joins the ranks of previously pro-American countries that have recently turned against Washington and Wall Street, such as Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Ecuador, Uruguay and Venezuela.
Argentina's President Kirchner recently announced what has been hailed as an "anti-IMF rebellion." He paid off nearly $10 billion in IMF debt in order to get out from under a burden that, he said, "caused poverty and pain among the Argentine people."
Venezuela's President Chavez has become a popular spokesman for anti-U.S. sentiments around the world.
Ecuador's President Gutierrez was thrown out of office by a popular grass-roots uprising when he capitulated to economic hitman threats and bribes, and went against his campaign promises to force U.S. oil companies to pay more to the Ecuadorian people for Ecuadorian oil. An Ecuadorian friend told me, "If a democratically elected official does not honor his campaign promises, democracy demands that we replace him."
In the past year, a rising tide of people throughout the world has been rebelling against policies they see as unjust. This has occurred in Africa, Asia, Europe, Latin America and the Middle East, as well as in the United States, where New York transit workers fought to defend their economic well-being. As one transit worker told me, "We're sick of being told that our families must sacrifice while huge corporations and their executives receive tax breaks."
This rebellion is facilitated by the internet, cell phones and satellite dishes. People in places once considered remote are increasingly aware of statistics such as these:
- Transnational corporations have taken control of much of the production and trade in developing countries: For example, 40 percent of the world's coffee is traded by just four companies; the top 30 supermarket chains control almost one-third of worldwide grocery sales.
- A trade surplus of $1 billion for developing countries in the 1970s turned into an $11 billion deficit by 2001.
- The income ratio of the one-fifth of the world's population in the wealthiest countries to the one-fifth in the poorest went from 30 to 1 in 1960 to 74 to 1 in 1995.
- Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are corporations; of those, 47 are U.S.-based.
- The overall share of federal taxes paid by U.S. corporations is now less than 10 percent, down from 21 percent in 2001 and over 50 percent during World War II; one-third of America's largest and most profitable corporations paid zero taxes -- or actually received credits -- in at least one of the last three years (according to Forbes magazine).
- Back in 1980 the average American chief executive earned 40 times as much as the average manufacturing employee. For the top tier of American CEOs, the ratio is now 475:1 and would be vastly greater if assets, in addition to income, were taken into account. By way of comparison, the ratio in Britain is 24:1, in France 15:1, in Sweden 13:1.
- Pre-Civil War slaves received room and board; wages paid by the sweatshops that today serve many U.S. industries will not cover the most basic needs.
Unrest in New York and Latin America, as well as in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Middle East are harbingers of the difficulties that will haunt future generations -- unless we take heed. They serve notice that if we want a peaceful and prosperous future for our children, we must recognize basic human needs; we must insist that all people -- not just those at the top -- have the right to justice and dignity. Bolivian voters, NYC transit workers and democratically elected presidents of other countries are warning us that the bottom line of the corporate balance sheet is not the final statement upon which our society will ultimately be graded.
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Posted by: Farmertim on Jan 13, 2006 5:37 AM
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Very quickly on the heals of that sad episode the rest of americas economy was dealt the same tacts and soon the private homeowner faces the same result.
Give anybody enough cheap money and sooner or later they will sucombe to those who hold the mortage.
South American, African, and some eastern European countires saw this sooner than others and to there benifit have changed the outcome of those who would like to control them. NYC transit workers included.
Formerly if a country got out of hand the leader of those countires were liquidated(pun intended).
Now to loose a few hundred New Orleans citizens or a few coal miners, 15,000 lives per year due to lax emission standards on coal fired plants, all in the name of upward flow of profits is par for the course.
I used to think that the U.S. would hit some wall in the near future and wholesale change in our conscience would occur....now given the wide ranging and ever deepening scope of World Bank WTO & IMF and its efforts in our daily lives I don't see it happening anytime soon.
By now one would think we as a free society would understand just because we are given money to generate an economy this doesn't instill wisdom, nor does it allow us to retain our freedom.
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Posted by: sausage on Jan 13, 2006 5:49 AM
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Secondly, the American people are extrememly docile. We are the most docile people on the face of the world. Things that would send citizens into the streets in, say, France or Argentina get no response from Americans. Maybe it is due to television induced somnambulism: We, as a people, just float along "hoping" things will get better...somehow. Even though there's a well of outrage nothing changes, nothing gest done.
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Posted by: gonzoskismet on Jan 13, 2006 6:44 AM
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And, then one day, the dream started to come crashing down around them. First, there was the World Trade Center disaster.
The politicians said 'This was done because they hate our way of life.' Not that we had been screwing around with THEIR way of life for over 50 years. Nothing like that caused them to do what they did (even if it was a THEM that did it.) No, it was just because of our way of life.
Then, gasoline and natural gas prices went through the roof. The politicians blamed this one on a hurricane. Guess it didn't like our way of life either.
You know, people, you don't have a democracy here. You have a soap opera. You have a myth. These people that our politicians and our media talk down on in South America are the ones with the TRUE democracies, the ones that work for the people that need them. The only reason our country disses them is because the 'free lunch' is over and the people in power in America know it.
Our leaders are a bunch of rich, upper class people who expect YOU to foot the bill for everything, fight the wars they start and stand up as TRUE PATRIOTS when they make one of their Lee Greenwood 'Proud to Be an American' campaign promises. Then they rig the vote, chuckle over drinks at the Club and talk about what a bunch of suckers you are. Get a clue, folks. We could learn a thing or two from our South American neighbors.
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Posted by: Lincoln fan on Jan 13, 2006 7:31 AM
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Both parties represent the corporate elite and not the average taxpayer. Under the battle cry of our founding fathers,"Taxation without representation is tyranny" today's patriots are duty bound to take control of our government. Join The Lincoln Initiative a grassroots movement (not an organization) to make "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" a reality. Click on join up.
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Posted by: Louisa on Jan 13, 2006 7:37 AM
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If a corporation is going to have rights similar to those of a natural person maybe we could and should tax it at a higher level, yes? If a corporation refuses to carry water for us maybe it's time we make some of these corporations offshore ventures altogether - give 'em the heave ho, the boot!
I predict that the future of U.S. law and politics is centered on the issue of the rights of corporations versus those of natural persons. Copyrights have been extended for the benefit of deathless corporations, the fair use privileges of the average person have been made nonexistent by the DMCA - think about it? Whom does the government serve - you or a corporation?
Corporations have to be reigned in. I am not anti-corporation BTW, I just oppose any entity that denigrates the rights of the american people and abuses our political process for its exclusive benefit and profit. And then when you see how they fail to pay their share of the tax burden its really easy to see how it's just looting - and it's not even people doing it, just some faceless immortal creature called a corporation. But you can bet real people make off with all of the hard cash the corporation earns - oh yeah!
Remember that old Cheech and Chong bit about how if it looks like shit, smells like shit, and tastes like shit - it probably is shit and you should walk around it? Corporations equal shit, at least the precise way we have allowed them to grow out of control.
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As Warren Buffet pointed out if there IS CLASS warfare in the United States , and make NO mistake about it there is ,then MY side is winning .
Not only do they make more but the tax laws are rigged in their favor as well . As Buffet pointed out he could reduce his tax rate from 36% to 15% by taking his compensation in the form of Dividends rather than Salary thanks to the Republican Tax Policies .
Republicans now stand poised to repeal the Estate Tax which
means that all those increased value in assets will NOT be taxed . They often talk about how the tax laws should not PUNISH the most productive among us for their Success . Of course 5 of the 10 Wealthiest Americans are children of Sam Walton and it would seem that their SUCCESS came in
being BORN into the right family . The same might be said for the current occupent of the White House who ran three companies into bankrupcy before using the Government and its power to help the sports franchise he was a part owner in . He seems well on his way to bankrupting our country as he became the ONLY president to CUT taxes during a time of WAR . This may be the ONLY time ANY nation at ANY Time has done this .
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Posted by: carlstoll on Jan 13, 2006 11:53 AM
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Another point: Mr Perkins conspicuously omits any hint of economic jargon, a difficult feat for an economist writing on economics. Likewise the account of his studies and subsequent economics work is exceedingly vague.
It seems unlikely for the same person to perform such disparate tasks as economic analysis, hobnobbing with 3rd-world potentates and making veiled threats to the latter. The underlying situation that Mr Perkins seeks to illustrate with his fanciful narrative is doubtless factual. No doubt a certain imperialist power on occasion threatens dire reprisals against small, powerless nations (Panama in the book) that become too cocky and threaten the power of multinationals. However, to be credible, I think such threats must emanate from someone holding real power, a Kissinger figure or his immediate flunkies, not an academic specialist, even less if such specialist has (improbably) bonded with the incorruptible nationalist Torrijos, r.i.p.
Perkins seems to be a freelancer, no agent of disinformation acting for a power hostile to the US. (I am thinking of the Soviets’ 1920s disinformation campaigns of yore against the US, like the Sacco-Vanzetti sham et al.) I think so since there are no signs of any publicity campaign in coordination with the book’s publication, and because Mr Perkins’s imposture is too amateurish to be conceived by any self-respecting intelligence service. Spooks currently loathing the US are mostly of a Mohammedan persuasion. Any disinformation from these worthies is likely to be larded with references to the Almighty and contain incriminating material relating to the Middle East. Nor is there any detectable Chinese slant to Mr Perkins’ confessions.
This by no means precludes CIA inspiration of the airplane “accidents“ that in 1981 -- the dawn of the Reagan era -- killed Torrijos and his Ecuadorian colleague Jaime Roldós, as well as other events. But such links must be established, if at all, by rigorous analysis of circumstantial evidence, not suspect hearsay from hit men.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jan 13, 2006 12:40 PM
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The greedy have put their pawns in place and even they are on shakey ground. There are too many homeless,hungry,and disenfranchised for the World to continue on the same path towards oblivion.
The People whom have respect for the Creation and everything in it are making a stand for all Living things. The money system and all it's inequities are creating it's own collapse for it owes nothing to anyone except the greedy.
Those of us who stand up for all life also stand up for the folks that don't agree with us. Why? Because even if you don't know it you, everyone you know, everything you see,or will come to recognize is all part of a great Creation that's beyond, money, wealth,or national borders. Those of us who know the truth are trying to teach,reach and elevate the rest of our thinking. To a more respectful treatment of our fellow Humans,the Earth, and all the Living things that have no voice.
Money is a spiritless,loveless,compassionless object that has power only in the imagination of it's holder and as such is the WORST method of exchange in use.
This is why People are rising up. We have been left to reclaim the Earth for ALL LIFE TO HAVE A CHANCE.
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Posted by: cherenkov on Jan 13, 2006 1:03 PM
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With the advent of peak oil, the discourse will become increasingly irrelevant. Globalism is coming to an end. It is toast. Many of humanity's problems will become many times worse, some will self-correct. To be sure, the social-political paradigm is about to shift in a profound and earth shattering way, an 11 on the societal-collapse Richter scale.
With peak oil, you may see a dieoff of human population on the order of five or more billion people. Scary stuff indeed.
You see, there is a hitman out there and it is called Malthusian Overshoot, and it is coming soon.
For more information:
Life After The Oil Crash
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What is going on in South America is an inspiration and much more, it's a living event, it breathes with individual and collective desire to 'have a better life' for the people that pour their talents, labor and, yes, even love into their nation-their people. If Americans are still waiting for the current governing elements in Washington to radically change their ways, well, we are waiting in vain. More important, WHY do we continue to wait?
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Posted by: brodix on Jan 13, 2006 6:37 PM
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The economy is a convective cycle, with energy in the form of labor, materials and ideas rising up, while wealth, civil order and social security precipitate down. Supply side theory has created a situation where far more has been rising then is effectively used or precipitating down and the results are huge storm clouds of surplus wealth boiling over a parched economy. For reference, consider where the money the government borrows would go, if it were not being recycled through the public sector. The investment and asset markets are awash in cash and debt, so additional spending would just increase the inflationary effect. Government borrowing is effectively a nationalization of surplus wealth, but rather than actually taking it, the revenue stream of the government is being transferred to those with surplus wealth in the first place, which only adds to the problem.
I first started questioning economic pronouncements when trying to figure out how Paul Volcker cured inflation by raising interest rates. Inflation is surplus money in the economy. According to the law of supply and demand, you increase demand. Inflation is started by loose money, but reverse engineering is not always so simple. By raising interest rates, his solution for the oversupply of money also raised the cost of using it. The economy slowed. How do you absorb surplus currency in circulation by slowing the economy? Government borrowing is the most logical explanation for how inflation was brought under control. After supply side economics squeezed it out of the general economy, the government skimmed it off the top and then spent it. As public spending supports private investment, rather then competing with it, the effect was compounded. This surplus was effectively absorbed by October of 1987. At which point, Greenspan opened the gates wide.
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I tried to notify Amy Goodman as soon as he went on the air that he smelled like a rat. Perkins is a red herring that keeps progressives from doing the homework that would help them understand the difficult decisions and compromises and systemic issues that have lead to the current crises of development.
You have to read the boring economic press or leftist economic analysts such as Doug Henwood or closely read the neo-liberal apologists such as Bhagvati to get a more nuanced picture of why countries have taken loans that have proved destructive. It ain't because nerds such as Perkins bribed them with their oh so sexy ways. How gullible can you be? I heard Perkins say that the new leader of Bolivia was obviously getting a call from a hit man, and that is why he would seek compromise. Try the basic fact of no majority in parliament and no mandate, and other interests with significant representation in parilament pulling the other direction?
The World Bank website is a better place to read current critiicism of its own practices than Perkins is. It is pretty boring stuff, beware, but you will have a much better sense of why even well meaning development loans have been destructiive and of how many nation states' politics are reproductions in vivo of the inherent contradictions of capitalism.
Perkins ought to be shamed off of the progressive stage and progressives should graduate and actually do their own homework instead. It is rats like these that keep progressives in a little, ineffectual, do-gooder coccoon.
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Posted by: Farmertim on Jan 13, 2006 5:37 AM
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Very quickly on the heals of that sad episode the rest of americas economy was dealt the same tacts and soon the private homeowner faces the same result.
Give anybody enough cheap money and sooner or later they will sucombe to those who hold the mortage.
South American, African, and some eastern European countires saw this sooner than others and to there benifit have changed the outcome of those who would like to control them. NYC transit workers included.
Formerly if a country got out of hand the leader of those countires were liquidated(pun intended).
Now to loose a few hundred New Orleans citizens or a few coal miners, 15,000 lives per year due to lax emission standards on coal fired plants, all in the name of upward flow of profits is par for the course.
I used to think that the U.S. would hit some wall in the near future and wholesale change in our conscience would occur....now given the wide ranging and ever deepening scope of World Bank WTO & IMF and its efforts in our daily lives I don't see it happening anytime soon.
By now one would think we as a free society would understand just because we are given money to generate an economy this doesn't instill wisdom, nor does it allow us to retain our freedom.
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Secondly, the American people are extrememly docile. We are the most docile people on the face of the world. Things that would send citizens into the streets in, say, France or Argentina get no response from Americans. Maybe it is due to television induced somnambulism: We, as a people, just float along "hoping" things will get better...somehow. Even though there's a well of outrage nothing changes, nothing gest done.
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Posted by: gonzoskismet on Jan 13, 2006 6:44 AM
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And, then one day, the dream started to come crashing down around them. First, there was the World Trade Center disaster.
The politicians said 'This was done because they hate our way of life.' Not that we had been screwing around with THEIR way of life for over 50 years. Nothing like that caused them to do what they did (even if it was a THEM that did it.) No, it was just because of our way of life.
Then, gasoline and natural gas prices went through the roof. The politicians blamed this one on a hurricane. Guess it didn't like our way of life either.
You know, people, you don't have a democracy here. You have a soap opera. You have a myth. These people that our politicians and our media talk down on in South America are the ones with the TRUE democracies, the ones that work for the people that need them. The only reason our country disses them is because the 'free lunch' is over and the people in power in America know it.
Our leaders are a bunch of rich, upper class people who expect YOU to foot the bill for everything, fight the wars they start and stand up as TRUE PATRIOTS when they make one of their Lee Greenwood 'Proud to Be an American' campaign promises. Then they rig the vote, chuckle over drinks at the Club and talk about what a bunch of suckers you are. Get a clue, folks. We could learn a thing or two from our South American neighbors.
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Both parties represent the corporate elite and not the average taxpayer. Under the battle cry of our founding fathers,"Taxation without representation is tyranny" today's patriots are duty bound to take control of our government. Join The Lincoln Initiative a grassroots movement (not an organization) to make "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" a reality. Click on join up.
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Posted by: Louisa on Jan 13, 2006 7:37 AM
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If a corporation is going to have rights similar to those of a natural person maybe we could and should tax it at a higher level, yes? If a corporation refuses to carry water for us maybe it's time we make some of these corporations offshore ventures altogether - give 'em the heave ho, the boot!
I predict that the future of U.S. law and politics is centered on the issue of the rights of corporations versus those of natural persons. Copyrights have been extended for the benefit of deathless corporations, the fair use privileges of the average person have been made nonexistent by the DMCA - think about it? Whom does the government serve - you or a corporation?
Corporations have to be reigned in. I am not anti-corporation BTW, I just oppose any entity that denigrates the rights of the american people and abuses our political process for its exclusive benefit and profit. And then when you see how they fail to pay their share of the tax burden its really easy to see how it's just looting - and it's not even people doing it, just some faceless immortal creature called a corporation. But you can bet real people make off with all of the hard cash the corporation earns - oh yeah!
Remember that old Cheech and Chong bit about how if it looks like shit, smells like shit, and tastes like shit - it probably is shit and you should walk around it? Corporations equal shit, at least the precise way we have allowed them to grow out of control.
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As Warren Buffet pointed out if there IS CLASS warfare in the United States , and make NO mistake about it there is ,then MY side is winning .
Not only do they make more but the tax laws are rigged in their favor as well . As Buffet pointed out he could reduce his tax rate from 36% to 15% by taking his compensation in the form of Dividends rather than Salary thanks to the Republican Tax Policies .
Republicans now stand poised to repeal the Estate Tax which
means that all those increased value in assets will NOT be taxed . They often talk about how the tax laws should not PUNISH the most productive among us for their Success . Of course 5 of the 10 Wealthiest Americans are children of Sam Walton and it would seem that their SUCCESS came in
being BORN into the right family . The same might be said for the current occupent of the White House who ran three companies into bankrupcy before using the Government and its power to help the sports franchise he was a part owner in . He seems well on his way to bankrupting our country as he became the ONLY president to CUT taxes during a time of WAR . This may be the ONLY time ANY nation at ANY Time has done this .
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Another point: Mr Perkins conspicuously omits any hint of economic jargon, a difficult feat for an economist writing on economics. Likewise the account of his studies and subsequent economics work is exceedingly vague.
It seems unlikely for the same person to perform such disparate tasks as economic analysis, hobnobbing with 3rd-world potentates and making veiled threats to the latter. The underlying situation that Mr Perkins seeks to illustrate with his fanciful narrative is doubtless factual. No doubt a certain imperialist power on occasion threatens dire reprisals against small, powerless nations (Panama in the book) that become too cocky and threaten the power of multinationals. However, to be credible, I think such threats must emanate from someone holding real power, a Kissinger figure or his immediate flunkies, not an academic specialist, even less if such specialist has (improbably) bonded with the incorruptible nationalist Torrijos, r.i.p.
Perkins seems to be a freelancer, no agent of disinformation acting for a power hostile to the US. (I am thinking of the Soviets’ 1920s disinformation campaigns of yore against the US, like the Sacco-Vanzetti sham et al.) I think so since there are no signs of any publicity campaign in coordination with the book’s publication, and because Mr Perkins’s imposture is too amateurish to be conceived by any self-respecting intelligence service. Spooks currently loathing the US are mostly of a Mohammedan persuasion. Any disinformation from these worthies is likely to be larded with references to the Almighty and contain incriminating material relating to the Middle East. Nor is there any detectable Chinese slant to Mr Perkins’ confessions.
This by no means precludes CIA inspiration of the airplane “accidents“ that in 1981 -- the dawn of the Reagan era -- killed Torrijos and his Ecuadorian colleague Jaime Roldós, as well as other events. But such links must be established, if at all, by rigorous analysis of circumstantial evidence, not suspect hearsay from hit men.
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The greedy have put their pawns in place and even they are on shakey ground. There are too many homeless,hungry,and disenfranchised for the World to continue on the same path towards oblivion.
The People whom have respect for the Creation and everything in it are making a stand for all Living things. The money system and all it's inequities are creating it's own collapse for it owes nothing to anyone except the greedy.
Those of us who stand up for all life also stand up for the folks that don't agree with us. Why? Because even if you don't know it you, everyone you know, everything you see,or will come to recognize is all part of a great Creation that's beyond, money, wealth,or national borders. Those of us who know the truth are trying to teach,reach and elevate the rest of our thinking. To a more respectful treatment of our fellow Humans,the Earth, and all the Living things that have no voice.
Money is a spiritless,loveless,compassionless object that has power only in the imagination of it's holder and as such is the WORST method of exchange in use.
This is why People are rising up. We have been left to reclaim the Earth for ALL LIFE TO HAVE A CHANCE.
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With the advent of peak oil, the discourse will become increasingly irrelevant. Globalism is coming to an end. It is toast. Many of humanity's problems will become many times worse, some will self-correct. To be sure, the social-political paradigm is about to shift in a profound and earth shattering way, an 11 on the societal-collapse Richter scale.
With peak oil, you may see a dieoff of human population on the order of five or more billion people. Scary stuff indeed.
You see, there is a hitman out there and it is called Malthusian Overshoot, and it is coming soon.
For more information:
Life After The Oil Crash
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What is going on in South America is an inspiration and much more, it's a living event, it breathes with individual and collective desire to 'have a better life' for the people that pour their talents, labor and, yes, even love into their nation-their people. If Americans are still waiting for the current governing elements in Washington to radically change their ways, well, we are waiting in vain. More important, WHY do we continue to wait?
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The economy is a convective cycle, with energy in the form of labor, materials and ideas rising up, while wealth, civil order and social security precipitate down. Supply side theory has created a situation where far more has been rising then is effectively used or precipitating down and the results are huge storm clouds of surplus wealth boiling over a parched economy. For reference, consider where the money the government borrows would go, if it were not being recycled through the public sector. The investment and asset markets are awash in cash and debt, so additional spending would just increase the inflationary effect. Government borrowing is effectively a nationalization of surplus wealth, but rather than actually taking it, the revenue stream of the government is being transferred to those with surplus wealth in the first place, which only adds to the problem.
I first started questioning economic pronouncements when trying to figure out how Paul Volcker cured inflation by raising interest rates. Inflation is surplus money in the economy. According to the law of supply and demand, you increase demand. Inflation is started by loose money, but reverse engineering is not always so simple. By raising interest rates, his solution for the oversupply of money also raised the cost of using it. The economy slowed. How do you absorb surplus currency in circulation by slowing the economy? Government borrowing is the most logical explanation for how inflation was brought under control. After supply side economics squeezed it out of the general economy, the government skimmed it off the top and then spent it. As public spending supports private investment, rather then competing with it, the effect was compounded. This surplus was effectively absorbed by October of 1987. At which point, Greenspan opened the gates wide.
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I tried to notify Amy Goodman as soon as he went on the air that he smelled like a rat. Perkins is a red herring that keeps progressives from doing the homework that would help them understand the difficult decisions and compromises and systemic issues that have lead to the current crises of development.
You have to read the boring economic press or leftist economic analysts such as Doug Henwood or closely read the neo-liberal apologists such as Bhagvati to get a more nuanced picture of why countries have taken loans that have proved destructive. It ain't because nerds such as Perkins bribed them with their oh so sexy ways. How gullible can you be? I heard Perkins say that the new leader of Bolivia was obviously getting a call from a hit man, and that is why he would seek compromise. Try the basic fact of no majority in parliament and no mandate, and other interests with significant representation in parilament pulling the other direction?
The World Bank website is a better place to read current critiicism of its own practices than Perkins is. It is pretty boring stuff, beware, but you will have a much better sense of why even well meaning development loans have been destructiive and of how many nation states' politics are reproductions in vivo of the inherent contradictions of capitalism.
Perkins ought to be shamed off of the progressive stage and progressives should graduate and actually do their own homework instead. It is rats like these that keep progressives in a little, ineffectual, do-gooder coccoon.
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