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2006: The Year of Oil Collapse?

By James Howard Kunstler, Kunstler.com. Posted January 11, 2006.


This could be the year that the hardships and difficulties I lump together as the 'long emergency' get some serious traction.
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2006: The Year of Oil Collapse?

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Editor's note: This is one of three perspectives AlterNet has assembled on the prospect of peak oil and its implications for modern society and the global economy. The other two are from World Watch: Christopher Flavin writes that while we can't know exactly when oil production will start declining, we must focus on alternatives to petroleum now; and Robert K. Kaufman describes the role the market and government should play in helping to make the transition from a petroleum-dependent society.

The sheer weight and inertia of American life kept our systems on their feet through 2005, despite a worsening economic climate and some harsh body blows, like the hurricanes that pounded oil and gas production in the Gulf of Mexico. In a way, some perverse law of sociopolitical physics seemed to concentrate all the year's destructive potential in the devastation of New Orleans, Biloxi and other Gulf Coast towns -- while the mighty din of motoring and cheeseburger sales roared on elsewhere without pause from Cape Cod to Catalina.

First, a little background briefing on where we are at -- to use some of the bad grammar now normative in American life -- before I make predictions (i.e., guesses) about the year ahead.

You can only introduce so much perversity into an economic system before distortions cripple it. From 2001 through 2005, consumer spending and residential construction had together accounted for 90 percent of the total growth in GDP, while over two-fifths of all private sector jobs created since 2001 were in housing-related sectors, such as construction, real estate and mortgage brokering. Much of the money spent did not really exist except as credit -- incomes as yet unearned, hallucinated liquidity, wished-for wealth, all based on the expectation that house values would continue to rise at 10 percent to 20 percent a year, forever. It became a reckless racket, all predicated on sustaining an economy that had lost its other means for generating wealth -- foremost its infrastructure for making things besides suburban houses.

This housing bubble economy represented, holistically speaking, the wish to maintain a sense of normality in American life under conditions of disintegrating normality, and it is no symbolic accident that it centered on the images of hearth and home, because fundamental comforts were what many Americans actually stand to lose in a reality-based future. The decay of standards and norms in banking behavior applied to housing started, as in the case of the proverbial rotting dead fish, at the head, the Federal Reserve, and infected every lowly loan officer through the body until, in effect, lending standards ceased to exist.

The suburban housing bubble and its related activities were predicated on the idea that we could continue building out a living arrangement dependent on cheap oil and methane gas, and that all the subdivisions and strip malls would retain value for decades to come. Of course, this was the central delusion of the suburban sprawl economy, because it was obvious to anyone who gave the situation more than a cursory glance that cheap oil and gas were the things we were least likely to have in the decades to come.

This reality had begun to penetrate the American collective consciousness and will be represented in 2006 by millions of individual choices to not buy a new suburban house, either because the individuals fear the expense of long commutes, or they fear the cost of heating a 4,000-square-foot house occupied by only a few people (or both). As the inventory of unsold new houses mounts up, the prices of all houses, new and old, will start to go down. There will be enormous psychological resistance to this reality, expressed in a lag of correct pricing, as the owners of these value-shedding "investments" wait for the bubble behavior (anticipated 10 percent to 20 percent asset appreciation) to return. Eventually they will get the picture.

The velocity of change in the housing bubble (and the psychology involved) will be greatly affected by oil and gas prices. It seemed to many of us watching the energy markets that the world may indeed have passed through its all-time oil production peak in 2005. Production in 2005 was nearly flat over 2004. The world was producing and also using roughly 82 million barrels of oil a day. Oil coming into new production was not making up for signs of depletion showing among virtually all the world's major producers. Iran, Russia, Mexico, Venezuela, the North Sea and, of course, the United States, were all past peak.

The big mystery was Saudi Arabia, but its inability to boost production from the 50-year-old fields that comprised its main reserves suggested that it was topping out, too. Which left an energy-hungry world with the need to either (a) make other arrangements for powering industrial economies or (b) contest for control of the remaining oil reserves, which were substantially concentrated in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Here, I hasten to remind the reader that peak is peak, meaning right now we are all operating on the basis of a lot of oil flowing around the world. The comfort level is still high. The factories are still humming in China, and the six-lane commuting corridors are still full of big cars around Atlanta, Dallas, Denver and Minneapolis. The problem is that the oil supply will soon steadily diminish at a rate of at least 3 percent a year, and that necking down of supply is likely to be expressed in greater geopolitical friction and turmoil between the great nations who crave oil.


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James Howard Kunstler is a regular contributor to Orion magazine, Mother Jones and the Atlantic Monthly, and is the author of "The Long Emergency" (Atlantic Monthly Press).

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I hope you're wrong.
Posted by: WhatNow? on Jan 11, 2006 4:20 AM   
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You are right about one thing for sure. We can not continue to waste and rely on petroleum. Steps needed to be taken thirty plus years ago to wean america off of oil.

Hemp can contribute to a solution for sustainability. Most paper and fabric should be made from hemp. Many building materials can be produced from it. Can hempseed oil be used as a diesel fuel?

Growing it takes little more than water. It does not need all the petroleum derived pesticides and fertilizers like most other crops.

There are solutions but they are threatening to monied interests in the US.

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» Hemp 4 Victory! Posted by: YinRising
» RE: Hemp 4 Victory! Posted by: crusty
A sound conclusion based on a distorted picture of reality.
Posted by: Pepper on Jan 11, 2006 4:57 AM   
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It may not have been intentional, but I found many flaws in the analysis above.

1. This economy has been carefully maneuvered toward a global economy for at least two decades now with little relationship to the oil/gas crisis. Its been more for globalizing wages at a much lower pay and increasing profits for corporate elitests. How do we know?

The signs are there and such orgs as the IMF have said so basically in seminars they have held since Jan 2002, (Check their website, they don't hide it) which included changing national POLITICAL structures (as we see daily by the dismantling of our Constitutional protections and system) to more homogonizing systems, changing currency and changing economic systems so that globalization may more easily be achieved across national boundaries. Remember the test of the $20 bill with the same colors on the currency (fiat money) as the Europeans Euro? We accepted it without complaint.

2. The second issue I believe that has been underplayed in this article with our economic demise, is the loss of our manufacturing base in the 80's and completed in the past 5 years by King George. Again that has nothing to do with peak oil or gas.

3. Because I am not an expert on oil and gas, I have to rely on others for the TRUTH of the matter. Given our past history since the secret Cheney Energy task force, I don't believe anyone when they say the price of gas and heating oil is a result of depleted or pressured supply. Why???? One word........ CALIFORNIA. A bogus energy crisis now proven in court that resulted in rebates to utility payers for the big lie that increased their energy costs per household by 1000%.

I am surprised that wasn't mentioned in this article. It is now too difficult for me or the average person to separate out fact from fiction by anyone. This author could easily be snowed like the rest of us. I would have to have proof the elements contained in this article about the shortage, potential shortage, or otherwise destructive results of shortage are in fact real and not manipulated. We have a history of lying, cheating, stealing and otherwise profiteering that resulted in 1000% profit increase for the oil companies without a resultant expenditure in investments. The oil companies were crying that they didn't know what to do with all that windfall.

(See next post for remainder)

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» No so distorted - a few remarks Posted by: tabaumann
Dr. Quake
Posted by: Dr. Quake on Jan 11, 2006 5:11 AM   
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Petroleum geologists pointed out 10 years ago that global oil discovery was not keeping pace with global oil production, and that continued production growth was unsustainable. Oil companies have been closing their exploration divisions since 1985. Yet the USA went on an SUV binge. Had we continued the oil use trends established during the 1980s, the present crisis would have been delayed, perhaps allowing our economy time for a soft landing.

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More War?
Posted by: Senqi on Jan 11, 2006 5:19 AM   
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It's nice to see this issue finally getting some attention..

Peak Oil is very significant to the whole planet, but especially
to the US, since Americans are the top guzzlers..

As for the Iran situation, I wouldn't be all that surprised if the
US attacked them (with Israel, maybe)..

It's insane, but war is quite essential for the neocons and their
plans of global domination..

Also, one should know about the Iranian Oil Bourse thingie:
www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2005/0823.html
and
www.energybulletin.net/7707.html

Interesting times, to say the least..

Peace

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emmaliz
Posted by: emmaliz on Jan 11, 2006 5:27 AM   
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I expected a recession when the bushbaby first took office. He succeeded in stalling it for years by inflating the housing industry with cheap money and using voodoo accounting. The accounting rules keep changing. Oil, however, will bring us down as it always does and the only state that will prosper during that period is Texas, as usual. The rest of us will lose supstantial amounts of the money we saved so assidiously during our younger years so that we could "enjoy the promise of the good years at a Del Webb or the like development."
We have an entire generation of young men and women who do not know how to survive a recession and who are used to living high and driving gas-guzzlers. Stand by for the mental breakdowns as they come to grips with the fallout.

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» the drug companies... Posted by: Iconoclast421
A sound conclusion ..... (Continued)
Posted by: Pepper on Jan 11, 2006 5:28 AM   
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5. Please do not tell me that the push toward regionalization of the Northern Hemisphere is a result of the oil and gas peak problem. Do not tell me the PROMOTION of illegal immigration is a result of peak oil and do not tell me that the poverty of the Mexican citizen is a result of that either. Its a result of an economic structure that has been in place for a very long time in which an oligarchy of wealthy elitests use their citizens as slaves for their wealth and power. Racism in Mexico is worst than anything we have ever seen in the US. Ask any native indian or spanish/indian mix citizen. They are actually barred from many jobs there and higher education is reserved for the "spaniards" who obtain their degrees in the medical profession at Oxford in England. This is why Bush loves Fox so much. Its his kind of system.

If you want to see why Bush is pushing for this opening of borders and how we will look when he finishes with us, just look at Mexico. It has nothing to do with peak oil

6. This article discussed the markets and volitility of futures due to peak oil, however, these markets and hyperinflation was done by the Federal Reserve in order to shore up a weak and dying economy that has no manufacturing to CREATE WEALTH. Instead the housing market was used to pump 45 billion dollars a WEEK into M3 to make GW reelected and that is what caused the hyperinflation. They are doing it again, as we speak for the 2006 elections, but this time I fear the markets are onto their scam. Remember just a week or so ago, the Federal Reserve said they would quit publishing the M3 figures that is a key to market activity and investing.

What is one of the big signals of that??? The price of gold that I predicted 2 years ago. Gold is at $540 an ounce. Buffett and Gates have made millions on the decline of the US dollar in currency markets and Buffett has stayed away from the stock market like its a plague.

7. Finally, This GDP we are "growing" is done on illness, medical, drugs, insurance, financial services, military spending and war. NOT MANUFACTURING (Butter) so we have to ensure people stay sick, insured, at war, and buying homes. Nice way to run an economy, huh? In case you didn't know, a report just got released that stated people going to the doctor for illnesses this past year INCREASED OVER 17%. That is your new economy. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEAK OIL.

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» Good points, but... Posted by: crz53
» RE: Good points, but... Posted by: Pepper
» Continued from above Posted by: Pepper
» RE: Continued from above Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: Continued from above Posted by: Pepper
?Loco? !Creo que no...!
Posted by: Sarahfalkner on Jan 11, 2006 6:24 AM   
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"South America is going loco on us. It will probably never amount to a united front..."

I've always thought Mr. Kunstler seems to have some important ideas worth taking seriously, but it's difficult for me to do so, or accept wholly his outbursts of prophecy, whenever he comments on other cultures and immigrants; his quasi-racism and ill-consideredness threaten to discredit the potential merit of anything else he has to say.

"Going loco on us." Now there's a hackneyed stereotype for you--those "crazy Latinoamericans;" and just which "us" is he talking about, anyway? Certainly not the low-income people in this country who've already benefited from Venezuela's cheap oil for the poor program? Aside from the ugliness of bigotry, such arrogant dismissiveness is simply not a pragmatic stance for a US citizen to take--some really sensible and progressive things are happening in Latinoamerica right now, and when it comes to Kunstler's main concerns for the future, the citizens of the US could learn a few things, especially from Venezuelans. And Venezuela's Chavez recognizes topics like peak oil and climate change, discusses openly with concern, and tries to plan accordingly for the benefit of all citizens. Can US citizens say the same of our McEmperor, dictator Bush?

As for Kunstler's assertion that "the region will probably never amount to a united front," he seems content not to have to cite any convincing evidence for this prophecy--perhaps again relying on a cherished racist gringo stereotype, the lazy, disorganized latinoamerican. I don't have enough information myself to know whether any region anywhere in the world currently attempting to organize and fight corporate imperialism will ever amount to a united front--indeed, does anyone?--but I do know that at the very least, it is extremely pragmatic at this point for US citizens to educate themselves about the successes and progress that other citizenries have made in other parts of the world, and not just to lazily accept what we are propagandized from birth to believe: that the US is always the most advanced country on every issue, and that therefore if "we" can't figure out solutions, nobody else can.

As times grow ever more difficult, we need to be building networks of support and solidarity, opening to new wisdom and resources--not hunkering down in bunkers with hoards of tinned food, shooting first and asking questions later.

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» RE: ?Loco? !Creo que no...! Posted by: Riverside
» A New Hope - actually, an old hope renewed! Posted by: Conan the Younger
» RE: ?Loco? !Creo que no...! Posted by: tabaumann
» RE: ?Loco? !Creo que no...! Posted by: Pepper
» I don't think it's racism Posted by: crz53
Don't buy it.
Posted by: tcx2 on Jan 11, 2006 6:46 AM   
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I do not buy into Peak Oil theory.

There is an incredible stink about hurricane Katrina gas price surge. It's true that when the supply decreases, the price would increase (keeping demand constant, that is). But increasing prices due to a shortage of supply would NOT bring about an increase in profit. Like the massive increase in profit the oil majors caught.

In all reality, it should have been business as usual or even a LOSS in profit as the market prices lagged behind the actual shortage in supply. When you're still selling product at a low cost when the supply has been interrupted, you're going to be losing money until the prices reflect the shortage.

It may be true that the oil companies do not set prices at the pumps, but the pumps have to buy from people who DO set prices.

What's more likely is that oil companies are using the current situation of Peak Oil fear to their financial advantage. They are testing the consumer price ceiling to see just how far they can raise prices to maximize profit. I bet if people just stopped buying gas, that price would drop like a rock and stay there for some time. If that happened, we would probably see the price at the pumps under the $2 range again. But that won't happen because we are dependent. That, and they can just point to Peak Oil and crush any concerns of market manipulation.

As much as people would like politics to be divorced from science, this is never the case. It might pay to look into Thomas Gold and what the Russians have been doing and beliving in. Not saying Mr. Gold isn't bunk as well, but there are clear political reasons for believing in certain things.

Why do you think bottled water can sell for $1+? I assure you, it's not coming from some spring in the Alps. It's all about perception and marketing.

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» RE: Don't buy it. Posted by: YogiBear
» RE: Don't buy it. Posted by: tcx2
» RE: Don't buy it. Posted by: kittynboi
» RE: Don't buy it. Posted by: pzzp
» RE: Don't buy it. Posted by: tcx2
» I have heard that as well. Posted by: Pepper
Answers Are In The Crisis
Posted by: Riverside on Jan 11, 2006 7:25 AM   
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Mr. Kunstler correctly attributes a significant part of the bad impact of the Oil Peak to our shift away from a productive economy. Productive in this sense means something other than services. The hesitancy of our entrepreneurs to meet the challenge head on by moving into new areas of production that take advantage of the crisis is a serious flaw. Here are some examples of what they could do:

1. Automotive industry joins forces (merges) to develop autos that utilize various applications of fuel cell power. This would also promote a sub-industry - fuel cell power research, development and manufacture.

2. Return to nuclear energy (including fusion) to generate both electrical energy and heating and air conditioning ( these latter two for metro areas). Lots of research, lots of development, lots of construction and manurfacturing, and lots of security and safety work.

3. Revitalize and modernize rail travel. High speed monorail intra-continental travel. High speed at 200-300 miles per hour. Power source would be a spin off of nuclear energy.

Yes nuclear power dominates the above, and so are we sane and mature enough yet to handle nuclear power safely? If we are not, then the Kunstler paradigm will be even more intense.

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» RE: Answers Are In The Crisis Posted by: kittynboi
It's the mortgages, stupid
Posted by: sln70 on Jan 11, 2006 7:29 AM   
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The link between higher costs for running vehicles to and from suburbs coupled with the increasing cost to heat monster homes is going to cause defaults on mortgages and a bust in the housing sector on which the Bush gov't has been able to pin all claims of increasing GDP.

It's really very obvious. Too many Americans have too little equity in their homes that they've financed with ARMs to survive the increase in costs and interest.

it really will be the mortgages that get Americans. If you have a big suburban home, I'd say sell it now before you lose your shirt.

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Collapse of Oil could be good
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jan 11, 2006 8:01 AM   
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Firstly we would remove any threat of lessened production.
Petty Dictators would'nt be able to hold any society hostage buy waving cheap oil in their faces. The over pollution of the planet from hydrocarbons would drop. People would be able to breathe eaiser. We would'nt be in Iraq. No Valdez incidents.
With the collapse of oil there would be a great push to develop clean energy. Many environmentalists,myselk included, warned of what this planet would be like if we did'nt take steps to control oil and othetr fossil fuels. Frist in 1970,then 1980,and in 2000. They have done zilch,zero,sqwat,nada to address the problem or correct it. They let low performance gas guzzleing SUV's operate,high performance 'sports' engines and cars run the roads and all of it has brought us to this end. Oil has run it's course. It's time to leave oil in the ground. The economy might dip. That would be good.it's over priced and over valued anyway.
Besides how smart is it to create an economy on something that's finite,for one, and a tremendous health hazzard for another. Lust for Power and Wealth wrought from oil has given us war,early death and a crooked presidency.
If we wind up making cleaner and better energy from oil collapsing,then I say bring it on!!! Right now I'm pretty sick of grieving Mother's and disgusted Father's who have to act proud that they sent their children off to die for Shell.

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Oil Baron Illogic
Posted by: Riverside on Jan 11, 2006 8:14 AM   
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Perhaps the most important point in this presentation is that our response to a coming energy crisis has been thwarted by the oil-baron illogic of the Bush Administration. By this, I mean the key players in the administration are all of an oil-baron mindset. Thus the pseudo-stealth plans to control Middle East oil supply is an outcome of that illogic. The money and other resources misspent in this quest could have funded considerable research and actual production of a variety of new energy programs that would have speeded up our escape from our oil dependency.

Most importantly such a move would have stimulated the productivity based economy that we are presently lacking. So how many lessons will it take to convince us we are headed way off course and right toward a very high cliff?

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» RE: Oil Baron Illogic Posted by: sln70
» And they did at Princeton U. Posted by: Conan the Younger
Some is peak - some is speculation
Posted by: jpinder on Jan 11, 2006 8:15 AM   
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I believe that oil production has peaked, 95% of people I speak with don’t know about it so the assumption that oil companies use it to scare people is not accurate. If they instill fear on oil users wouldn’t that be injurious to the economy, I think it’s better for them to lie, that there is no peak. This way people will waste more, then everything is copasetic. I think they exaggerate when speculating though, because they jack up the price of refined oil too high relative to crude oil.

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» RE: Some is peak - some is speculation Posted by: Conan the Younger
What these experts say may be true...
Posted by: Libbie on Jan 11, 2006 8:30 AM   
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and because of what happened with the oil "shortages" in the 70's, we should have already developed alternative energy sources. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out eventually the oil will run out.

Now, call me skeptical but after living through the 70's oil shortages and finding out it was OPEC behind it, punishing America for their relationship with Israel, I can't help but think this is the underlying problem again. Only this time we are going to be punished for Bushes little war against the Axis of Evil who just happens to own most of the oil in the world. Of course the oil company in the White House will make tons of money (when is enough enough?) if there really is an oil shortage.

Maybe this is what it will take for the gluttonous oil consumers to wake up and demand the developement of alternative energy sources and tell the White House oil company and OPEC to kiss our ass.

We shouldn't wait until we run out of oil to do something about it.

Oh and as far as that housing bubble blah blah blah. I have friends in construction and I'm here to tell you that the housing bubble popped the day Bush was given the White House the first time.

Libby of Liberal Woman

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Peak Oil
Posted by: Guy on Jan 11, 2006 8:42 AM   
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I have read so many conflicting opinons that I am not sure whether Peak Oil is a myth or not and who would benefit from the myth. I think the answer is not obvious. One would think that Peak Oil would benefit the Liberals who generally support alternate fuels and conservation, for example. But belief in Peak Oil could benefit Big Oil and the people who run the shadow govt in this country by creating hysteria and panic which would lead to us giving up more of our liberties, rights, and privacy in the name of increased physical and economic security.

Guy

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» RE: Peak Oil Posted by: extx
Iffy Deductive Reasoning
Posted by: Ranillon on Jan 11, 2006 9:11 AM   
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There has always been a problem with the "doomsday" prophets of Peak Oil -- they state the problem (oil is going to run out, a certainty) and immediately jump to a series of dire predictions (we are all screwed, hardly a certainty). The middle part as to how exactly this collapse of civilization would happen and why people have no hope of rising to the occasion is taken for granted as if, of course, when faced with serious adversity people naturally panic and do the worst thing.

This lack of detail really does damage to their "Peak Oil" arguments and leaves a lot of room for skeptics to downplay or even dismiss the whole idea. They can -- rightly -- point out how the "Doomsday Prophets" have a large gap in their reasoning. In addition, they can likewise convincingly argue that such "prophets" are caught up in a sort of anti-civilization nihilism that clouds their judgment. I wonder about that too -- all too often their articles are so full of anger and contempt for the collective around them it's almost as if they want "Peak Oil" to produce the worst possible outcome just out of revenge and spite.

Clearly, "Peak Oil" is a real problem. The only question is how big of a problem it will be and how quickly it will take hold. However, "Doomsday Prophets" who always jump to the worst conclusion and who seem motivated more out of spite than the search for truth aren't going to convince the skeptics. You can argue they are more part of the problem than part of the solution.

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» RE: Iffy Deductive Reasoning Posted by: kittynboi
We're Doomed. . .
Posted by: monkeywrench on Jan 11, 2006 9:57 AM   
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Boy! File this one in the "Doomsday" file! A 4000 DOW JONES?!
While part of me wants to believe the fantasy we are now living, the rest of me suspects that Mr. Kunstler just may be right. One thing is for sure: we cannot go on with the life-style we've become addicted to; we cannot continue increasing consumption infinitely in a finite system – and our little blue marble spinning through space is about as finite as a system can be. (I mean, the poles are melting, for God's sake, and scientists are talking about mass extinctions in the next 45 years!!! [the journal, NATURE, this month] And yet people still continue to lease (they can't afford to buy) those goddamn Hummers!!)

I am amazed at how little opposition I feel from America's population at how they are being so completely, collossally, stupifyingly, SOLD OUT by our government. What's it going to take for people to wake up and see over what cliff we are heading? And more importantly: if what Mr. Kunstler is saying comes true, how is our society going to handle the coast-to-coast outrage that very likely will erupt when we fall over that cliff? A nation with 200 million poor, nothing-to-lose, pissed-off people can make for a very ugly reality.

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» RE: We're Doomed. . . Posted by: stinkystanotter
» Money where mouth is Posted by: COC
» RE: Money where mouth is Posted by: stinkystanotter
» RE: We're Doomed. . . Posted by: jbloggz
» RE: We're Doomed. . . Posted by: triana1326
NYC Peak Oil Meetup
Posted by: Newt on Jan 11, 2006 10:00 AM   
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There's a group of dedicated and informed activists in NYC dealing with this issue–if anyone is interested in learning more, there is a meeting tonight: http://oilawareness.meetup.com/36/boards/

Basically, the best response to Peak Oil involves "relocalization", a process of rebuilding community, small-scale economies, local food production, and efficient transport in the form of trains or bikes. Permaculture design, a holistic lifestyle, and embracing voluntary simplicity are also effective means of coping with withdrawal from Western civilization.

Check out the film End of Suburbia.

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smccaw
Posted by: smccaw on Jan 11, 2006 11:23 AM   
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Little of the current discussion about oil depletion concerns what we obtain from oil besides simple heat: petrochemicals. Burning petroleum products in engines simply releases heat which is converted into mechanical energy to move a vehicle. Likewise, burning it to heat a space does just that: releases the heat energy in the fuel. When oil becomes short it will be relatively easier to substitute other sources, both renewable and non-renewable, for heat, than to find substitues for the petrochemicals that our civilization is absolutely dependent upon. Plastics, paints, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, pesticides, ashesives, pavements, armaments, the list is endless. All of these products depend heavily on petroleum.
In a 1978 "60 Minutes" interview, the Shah of Iran spoke of the folly of burning up this precious commodity for "simple heat", and ignoring or taking for granted the greater value of the organic molecules oil contains. His government was nonetheless pumping it out and selling it off, which didn't save him from the revolution that consumed his regime. His words were prescient then and of even greater import now.

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Petroleum will not run out...
Posted by: Desperate4Coffee on Jan 11, 2006 3:18 PM   
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...it will just become too expensive to extract. That is not mine...I think it's one of "peak-is-a-myth" people. The hope is that some alternative will appear on the horizon...preferably, without money for R&D in the present time. In the end what makes you think oil companies won't charge exorbitant prices for "alternatives" they develop with their profits from this round of price shocks?

Pay $10/gal now not later. Use the proceeds to square the bill with China, so that we can stop making interest payments and actually invest in US infrastructure. Watch the suburbs wither away, such that centralized city planning and public transport becomes necessary. Live in close proximity to where you work...enjoy the extra hour (or two!) of life to live each day. Pay what it actually costs to consume, and you will find that everyone will rapidly change their habits.

If the US took advantage of cheap oil, the powers that be will make damn sure no one else gets a cheap ride. The predatory lending practices of the IMF & World Bank are expertly designed to accomplish this: nationalize all assests of an impoverished nation such that control of all resources and wealth are beyond the control of the constituents, and then they will lift the country barely over the poverty line. Rinse, repeat as needed to quell uprisings of the masses.

As for the housing bubble, let it burst, such that the whole cards can come crashing down on the economic eggheads. When laid bare, cheap money is economic crack. Without an investment plan or strategy, it's not surprising short term satisfaction trumps long term gains from compounding small but sustainable returns over long periods of time.

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"The government sold us out"
Posted by: Cherax on Jan 11, 2006 7:04 PM   
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No people, we sold ourselves out. By failing to particpate in the democratic process, have the governments we deserve. Mine in Australia as well as you lucky people in the US.

We have collectively allowed our democracies to be subverted. It's all too easy to blame the 'other'. But the basic democratic instutions still exist, so get out there and use them.

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Re:No expection of U.S. or Israeli strikes against Iran
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Jan 11, 2006 10:41 PM   
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If you are correct in your prediction that the US economy will sink like a stone and that top government officials will be tried for corruption, a military strike against Iran will be MORE, not less, likely to occur. After all, what could be better than another war to distract the public from the GOP's mismanagement? This tactic worked the last time. The Iraq war was a great way of silencing dissidents : just call everyone who disagrees with the Repugs a traitor who should be ashamed for attacking the government in a time of war. It shuts up both the media and Democrats.

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Housing bubble
Posted by: robchapman on Jan 14, 2006 11:33 AM   
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Much of the money spent did not really exist except as credit -- incomes as yet unearned, hallucinated liquidity, wished-for wealth, all based on the expectation that house values would continue to rise at 10 percent to 20 percent a year, forever.

I am not sure that this is an entirely accurate or complete assessment of the liquidity that is fueling the housing boom.
The earnings of American households is a factor as well. I have several acquaintances, involved in blue-collar occupations whose earinings exceed $75,000 annually. These are men whose educational backgrounds did not involve years of study or significant financial investments. By choosing a job early and staying in it they have advanced incrementally to these high earnings levels.
In addition to the very significant earning power of the blue collar occupations our economy has been strengthened by the massive growth in household incomes generated by the second incomes of working wives. This relatively recent phenomenon has generated perhaps a couple trillion dollars in real earnings that is contributing to the strength of our economy. Since these jobs are largely in the services sector they continue to generate income year in and year out.
Finally, the economy has somehow continued to evolve in ways that allow the average to find new and remunerative careers at all life stages.
It is the hypothecazation of these trends as credit that has fueled both the housing boom and the consumer spending craze that are growing our economy.
However we cannot rest on our laurels. The longitudinal growth of blue collar income may be levelling off as the older cohorts occupy a greater percentage of the men engaged in these occupations.
Women's participation in the work force, now at historically high levels has probably peaked, so growth from this source is likely to plateau as well.
The distortions the author has noted may restrict the mobility of the work force and dampen the ability of American workers to change careers.
All of these signs along with the emergence of major competition for resources from India and China indicate that without a major technological and probably sociological restructuring of our economy we are in for a slide.

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