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Stupidity, Survived

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted December 31, 2005.


The end of the year is occasion to pause in wonder that we have once again survived, even in the face of fresh heights of human stupidity.

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2006 makes the ninth year in a row the federal minimum wage has been stuck at $5.15 an hour. It's bad economics, it's bad policy, it's stupid, it's unfair, and it's high damn time to do something about it. It is also, as Sen. Edward Kennedy says, a moral issue.

The Democrats have a new strategy that may finally get the Republicans off the pot. They're working to get a minimum wage increase on state ballots, including Ohio, Michigan, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Arkansas and Montana. The theory is that putting a minimum-wage increase on the ballot does for Democrats what putting on an anti-gay marriage proposition does for Republicans -- it gets out the base.

Of the seven states with the best chance to have minimum wage ballot initiatives, five were decided by less than 10 percentage points in the most recent presidential election. In theory, this should scare the happy pappy out of the Republicans, who will then vote to increase the minimum wage the first chance they get in Congress, thus assuring an increase either way. Clever, eh?

The last minimum wage increase dates to September 1997, and inflation has since eroded the wage's buying power to its second-lowest level since 1955, according to the Economic Policy Institute. Republican opposition to an increase is based entirely on ideological grounds. Many Republicans keep saying increasing the minimum wage will hurt small business, for which there is no evidence, and cause people making the minimum wage to be laid off. But again, there is no evidence. Time after time, round after round, these same arguments, which are demonstrably false, keep getting repeated. It is really quite painful, since the economic effects of a minimum wage increase have been documented so often.

If the minimum wage had kept pace with inflation since 1968, when it was $1.60 an hour, it would be $7.60 an hour today, according to the AFL-CIO. A year-round, full-time worker would have to make $7.74 an hour just to be at the poverty level for a family of three -- $2.59 above the current minimum wage. The gap between middle-class workers and those making the minimum wage is the largest on record.

Of course, we all enjoy reading about the record Christmas bonuses various CEOs, top executives and board members have voted themselves lately. The business pages are just a jolly recap -- no one ever gets coals and switches when they set their own salary. Here's to starting 2006 off with this simple bit of fairness.

Well, nothing like getting to the end of the year to give us occasion to pause in wonder that we have once again survived even in the face of fresh heights of human stupidity. From the day Sen. Bill Frist, M.D., successfully diagnosed Terri Schiavo by watching her on videotape ("She certainly seems to respond to visual stimuli," he said. Her autopsy later revealed she was blind) to the happy day Veeper Cheney told us the Iraqi insurgency was in its last throes, it's been just one delightful episode after another. Truly, I do not understand how people can become discouraged about our national life, when players like Jack Abramoff, Tom DeLay and Ralph Reed face just deserts. For a new standard in graciousness, who can forget Barbara Bush speaking of refugees from Hurricane Katrina stashed in the Astrodome: "What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them."

Sure, Katrina was awful, but it brought Michael heckuva-job-Brownie Brown to our attention, so we got to read his inspiring e-mails -- such as, "I am a fashion god."

For those who have been wondering where all the heroes are, let me recommend Russ Feingold, John Murtha and Cindy Sheehan. Isn't it amazing how often all you have to do to be a hero is to stand up and tell the truth?

With those few, shining exceptions, we can bid adieu to 2005 without great regret. Or, as Texas Gov. Rick Perry said to a reporter earlier this year, "Adios, mo-fo."

Apology: I bit on a bad story in my Dec. 20 column. The tale of the UMass-Dartmouth student who was visited by the feds for checking out Mao's "Little Red Book" has turned out to be a hoax. So sorry.

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Keep going, Molly! You prove Texas ain't all bad!
Posted by: moonbatlulu on Dec 31, 2005 4:42 PM   
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Great column Molly ... you make me proud to live in Texas! Your goodness and intelligence and wit and charm are bigger than the meaness and stupidity of the Twig (or Shrub) and gov good hair ....

Bless you and I am looking forward to reading your columns on that cockroach from Sugarland ... will 2006 really be the year that DeLay finally gets what he deserves ...?

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Layoffs because of miniumum wage increases...?
Posted by: aonghus36 on Dec 31, 2005 4:55 PM   
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No, from my experience there may be hours cutback, with no let up in the amount of work to be done. But, still after nine years the minimum wage needs to be raised nonetheless. I am tired of the USA being the laughing stock of the "modern industrial" world.

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» Here's yer research Daniel1982 Posted by: Madam Hatter
Clever? Maybe...
Posted by: pixiequix on Jan 1, 2006 2:08 AM   
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"...this should scare the happy pappy out of the Republicans, who will then vote to increase the minimum wage the first chance they get in Congress, thus assuring an increase either way. Clever, eh?"
Yes. Even though this is just a concept for voter motivation, it doesn't seem in the most clever spirit to publish however. I can think of at least one brilliant campaign that was, at least partly, derailed by publishing their strategy along with their platform. It just doesn't seem like the best idea. What do you ever read about neocon strategy? Well, except Die Diktatur.

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JAIL BUSH,CHENEY,RUMMIE and the lot in '08
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jan 1, 2006 9:07 AM   
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PLATFORM of the People Over Tyrants Party O/K/A The P.O.T. Party

Because of the current trends in National and Foreign Policy and the many and varied forms of tyranny our people are being exposed to,we have formed from the People, a Party, that is For the People. This is our
vision of how we get the Country back for the People,restore our Liberty,Freedom,and Peace,here and now.
NO MORE WARS.
This country has 'made' the enemies we now face through corrupt policy in the name of 'Profits'.
We cease all weapons sales,development and deployment.
Close all bases on foriegn soils,begin TOTAL DISARMAMENT with pacts of Non- Aggression.
END ALL BLACK PROJECTS FUNDING. Disband the C.I.A., Homeland Security,and the DEA.
All monies would be 'redirected' to Free Education for ALL People, K- Grad School.
PROTECT THE EARTH
Restore the 'Roadless' Laws in perpituity.Ban clear cut forestry operations. End logging in National Forests. 1,000 year moritorium on mining. Restore the Great Lakes and rivers.
Force Industry to be 'inert' environmentally, Force Auto Industry to make High Mileage Hybred cars and trucks.EXTREME CONTROLS on pesticides and fretilizers and emmissions.
Heavy reliance on Solar,Wind, Hydro Generation, Hemp and other Biomass fuels for charcoal.
STOP DRILLING IN THE ANWR. Force Oil Companies to RESTORE IMPACTED AREAS.
PUT THE MONEY BACK IN THE PEOPLE'S HANDS
Freeze all Transportation Fuels and Utility prices for ten years. Extendable if deemed so by the People.
END COMPOUND INTREST RATES on loans,mortgages and small business loans.
FORGIVE ALL DEBTS. End Property Tax on ALL VETERAN'S personal homes.
CUT DEFENSE 60%, fund FULL HEALTHCARE and ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP
Non Deductable/Refundable 90% TAX The WEALTHIEST PEOPLE and BUSINESSES.
Make SOCIAL SECURITY ALWAYS FUNDED
GIVE food stamps to all Low Imcome Families.
RESTORE POWER TO THE PEOPLE
PARDON ALL VICTIMLESS,NON-VIOLENT OFFENDERS.
PARDON ALL POLITICAL PRISONERS
MAKE NATURAL DRUGS LEGAL, MAKE MANUFACTURED DRUGS PERSCRIPTIONABLE.
BILL of RIGHTS PROTECTION TO INCLUDE MARANDA RIGHTS
END WARRANTLESS SEARCHES,DOMESTIC SPYING ON CITIZENS
GUARANTEE THAT PEOPLE CAN DO WITH THEIR BODIES WHATEVER THEY DEEM RIGHT
ALL WORKER'S RIGHTS WOULD BE PROTECTED BY THE GOVT.

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» RE: JAIL BUSH,CHENEY,RUMMIE and the lot in '08 Posted by: FlightOfTheBumbleBees
How to create a 'proletariat'
Posted by: Sojourner on Jan 1, 2006 9:44 AM   
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Unless you own property, keeping the rate of inflation down keeps people down. It also establishes what seems to be a 'norm.'

The most dangerous aspect is that people begin to believe, over time, that this is the way things have 'always been.' No, we have not always had a growing underclass. No, we have not always had a police state. No, we have not always had shrinking percentage of home ownership. No, we have not always had the prison-industrial complex. No, we have not always had vast urban neglect, deteriorating health care, commuter traffic limited to a 10 mph average, etc. (I have to laugh at NYC's claim to crime reduction. From what I hear, that's because they don't enforce the vice laws. Gotta hand it to them. Makes sense to me.)

Eventually people will resist being forced to suffer while surrounded by extravagant wealth. It's not a question of 'if' but only a question of 'when.' In other words, life in the US today is a lie. The Bush administration is only revealing to everyone the way business is done in the US and in the world. The big bully has control of our laws. Is it any wonder that the laws don't work?

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Minimum wage, inflation and where did the money go
Posted by: thebalilama on Jan 1, 2006 10:00 AM   
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I am curious where the AFL-CIO got their information saying that earning $1.60 an hour in 1968 equals $7.74 today. According to the U.S. Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics website's CPI Inflation Calculator at http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl, $1.60 in 1968 equals $9.09 today. Still not a great wage but a bit more than 17% above $7.74. I don't know how $9.09 compares with the poverty level and family of 3 earning $7.74.
On top of the inflation adjustment over the years, there is something else that I can't figure out. I started working in 1966 making $1.75 and hour, just less than 10% over the minimum wage at the time [that $1.60 in 1966 adjusted for inflation would be $9.76 today]. I was single, had a good car with insurance, my own house or flat, health insurance, went to the clubs ever night, ate breakfast out every day, dated a lot and had a few bucks left each week out of the $63 a week that I brought home.
Certainly no one making 10% more than the present minimum wage could have the life I had then. I don't think anyone making 10% more than $9.09 or $9.76 an hour could have that life either.
Who is getting the money in today's economy who wasn't getting as much back then?
One place I see as probably different today than then is in the profit margins of the banking and financial services industries. I don't know the margins in the 60s but according to Business Week and Oil Daily in an article on Conoco Phillips web site, Banking is profiting almost $.20 per dollar of sales and the Financial Services Industry is profiting $.17 per dollar of sales. I don't think they were siphoning off that much in the 60s. Pharmaceuticals profit $.18+ and Insurance $.10+.
Such are some of the impacts of a service economy.
What can we do to have a more equitable distribution of wealth? I don't know, but I am sure that transforming the resignation of the people who have not been voting would be a good step.

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Name the Heroes!
Posted by: ljsullivan1166@earthlink.net on Jan 2, 2006 3:27 AM   
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How about rounding up ALL the heroes -- not just Feingold, Murtha and Sheehan, but the others who have been willing to take a stand in a scary climate -- John Conyers comes to mind, for example. Who else? Maybe that soldier who dared to question Rumsfeld about their missing equipment? How about Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski?


Maybe if we give them lots of recognition we can encourage others to come out of the woodwork, as well -- AND, maybe we will even be able to get a message across to those Dems-who-really-want-to-be-Repugs --which would be a very good thing! -- that they are not going to the ones we vote for next time...


I think these heroes deserve medals or plaques or ribbons or something -- Integrity Awards; it couldn't hurt!

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amazed again
Posted by: amazed again on Jan 2, 2006 5:16 AM   
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Australia has a minimum wage of $12.30 per hour or $467 40 per week, I think that anyone trying to exist on this paltry sum would find it exceedingly difficult. Ditto USA. It seems to me that politicians in their ivory towers with high wages and all their lurks and perks need to be brought back to the real world. Of course these people only become politicians because they are not dumb, they see where the pot of Gold lies and it isn't at the end of any rainbow. It is on Capitol Hill.

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» RE: amazed again Posted by: wearesilhouettes
Some states reach high
Posted by: bookwoman on Jan 2, 2006 6:47 AM   
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It may be that our federal minimum wage is obscene; however, I heard that, as of this morning, both Oregon and Washington State have laws which reach the $7.74 which the AFL-CIO calculates it should be. As for Senator Kennedy, he is right about it being a moral issue. However, thanks to the machinations of our Governor Mitt Romney trying to get in line for the Republican Presidential Candidacy race Massachusetts will probably not reach that level until he has gone on his way - please God, let him really leave the Commonwealth. Also, moral issues don't seem to bother the minds and consciences of the majority of the members of Congress.

As for claims that raising the minimum wage causes business to run away from a state, we are losing jobs anyway as U.S corporation race to replace U. S. workers with people in other countries who make salaries like $4.00 a month. This is made more attractive to those companies by legislation passed by our Federal Legislature which gives big tax breaks to those companies making such actions. Its too bad these bodies can't get as excited at insuring that workers here are protected.

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raise the floor
Posted by: DrXyzzy on Jan 2, 2006 7:48 AM   
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See also Raise the Floor by Holly Sklar et al:They are health care aides who can't afford health insurance.They work in the food industry, but depend on food banks to help feed their children.They are childcare teachers who don't make enough to save for their own children's education...They care for the elderly, but they have no pensions.

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Increase, Don't hold your breath.
Posted by: Slowburn on Jan 2, 2006 7:57 AM   
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It would seem that we have the best president
money can buy right now and with that investment business
has also obtained the best supreme court as well. Both Roberts
and Alito have fought hard for business domination practically their entire careers.
How smart do you have to be to understand that business has walked away with our future. What does the average working family have to look forward to. Just crack open a history book and look up the working conditions say in the twenties and thirties ( see Matawan www.smokymountainnews.com) .
Did those that gave their lives so long ago die in vain in their fight for respect, decency, and a fair days wage? It would seem so. Why does bush want illegals in our country to work? because business can pay them what they dam well please. And business is not going to let that change any time soon. In this world of deceit exploitation is just good business. To say illegals are doing work that Americans won't is just a bare face lie there are Americans that would do the work if they were justly treated and fairly compensated for it. I challenge any one that believes that people can live on even eight dollars an hour to try it for one year. Prepare your self for a rude awakening.
I think bush should be making minimum wage that is about what he is worth. There are thousands of people out there working for the minimum that is more deserving then him.
What is business saying to bush now? Goergie, Your do'en a heck of a job. keep up the good work. And now that Business has the supreme court in their hip pocket the standard of living, wages Working conditions and human dignity will go out the window like so many other aspects of or society we will be set back a hundred years.
What can middle class working families do about it? Vote for pro working family candidates, Reject the false Prophets and the lies that are the fanatical fundamentalist (bought and paid for) politicians and get organized. Before we are all fighting for scraps in the streets.
liberty or Death!!!!!

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living wage campaigns on college campuses
Posted by: pikkle123 on Jan 2, 2006 8:33 AM   
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Molly, you brought up several good points about the economic disparity in our country as a result of unfair wages. It is remarkably despairing and disappointing to see that something that (to me) seems so obviously right (in the moral sense) would be contested by my peers on the grounds of selfish economic concern. I think it's appalling that the issue of raising the minimum wage could be split into conservative/liberal duality, when it really is just an issue of right and wrong. Keeping the minimum wage at its present level is unfair and inhumane. That we tolerate this as a nation is disgraceful. That we ignore it and avoid it is even worse.
But there have been a string of activisms at many colleges across the nation to raise the wages for workers, including Harvard, Georgetown, and now my own university, Miami in Oxford, OH (MU Living Wage Campaign). We are the first public university to attempt such a change in wage practices, though it certainly hasn't been an easy battle.
And who knows if we will succeed, but at least there's a movement that's trying. And it's only a small step, but perhaps more will follow.

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EVEN IF THE MINIMUM IS INCREASED.......
Posted by: krose on Jan 2, 2006 8:49 AM   
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EVEN IF THE MINIMUM IS INCREASED TO $7.50, the average person will have much difficulty getting by in this day and age, and the average business will use illegals, if they can continue to get away with it! IT IS AN OUTRAGE! And Georgie wants to have a "Guest Worker Program," (as do some of the Dems!) I find that disgusting! I would rather pay more for an item or a service, and know that my money is going to a legal worker for a decent salary and benefits, than to an illegal alien who makes "peanuts," and is hiding here and sleeping in a crowded room with others so hiding. WHAT HAS BECOME OF OUR COUNTRY? WHERE ARE OUR ETHICS? WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE TO DO IT RIGHT? DON'T THEY COUNT? DOES ANYTHING COUNT ANYMORE? I THOUGHT OUR SO-CALLED "LEADER" WAS BRINGING BACK "HONESTY AND INTEGRITY" TO GOVERNMENT! YEAH RIGHT! THAT IS SURE A LAUGH!!!

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WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!!!
Posted by: Bushhater on Jan 2, 2006 9:29 AM   
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Read your Karl Marx, Das Kapital, & The Communist Manifesto. The proletariat shall rise up and overthrow their suppressors.

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» RE: WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!!! Posted by: Lincoln fan
A good idea
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Jan 2, 2006 11:27 AM   
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this should scare the happy pappy out of the Republicans, who will then vote to increase the minimum wage the first chance they get in Congress, thus assuring an increase either way. Clever, eh?

Scaring the Republicans is a good idea, but it doesn't go far enough. We have to scare the Democrats too. And not only on the minimum wage issue. There are many issues that are important to the majority of working class people, Republicans and Democrats. If each voter tells both parties his most important issue and that he/she won't vote for any candidate that doesn't support his view, many of the most popular issues will have to be supported by both parties before the election. Click on we can do iy

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"The More Things Change. . ."
Posted by: monkeywrench on Jan 2, 2006 1:08 PM   
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Every time I take good look at the foibles, stupidity, and incessant lying and cruelty of our current age, I can't help but think: "Three million years on this planet, and 15,000 years of cultural development, and this is the BEST we can do?!

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» RE: "The More Things Change. . ." Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: "The More Things Change. . ." Posted by: Lincoln fan
Bad economics?
Posted by: chief of okeefe on Jan 2, 2006 5:09 PM   
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The minimum wage works like any other "minimum price" law. It will make low-skilled labor less employable. Period. Sorry, but that is grim truth. You just create more incentive for employers to substitute something else for the low-skill labor. Like automation. Instead of hiring a bunch of store clerks, hire one clerk to watch 10 of those serve-yourself checkout stations. THAT is economics, my friends.
If you really give a damn about the low-skilled laborers, we gotta find non-coercive ways to make their labor more valuable relative to the employer's alternatives. Not just passing a law and expecting the point of a gun (yes, that is behind all laws) to make reality what you want. Have we not just gone thru 5 years of that crazy idea with the war-mongers in the Bush regime???

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» RE: Bad economics? Posted by: ConnecttheDots
» RE: Bad economics? Posted by: monkeywrench
» RE: Bad economics? Posted by: daniel1982
» RE: Bad economics? Posted by: ConnecttheDots
40 LESSONS FROM THE NEW MILLENIUM
Posted by: Boronia on Jan 2, 2006 7:39 PM   
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A handful of boardroom tycoons own and control the mainstream media.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/
opedne_richard__060101_40_lessons_from_the_.htm

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How many min-wage workers does it take to...
Posted by: runawaychimp on Jan 2, 2006 8:58 PM   
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I think a few posters here may need to review Econ 101. Hiring is not a classic supply and demand situation where cost and quantity are inversely proportional. How many workers does a wise manager hire? Just enough to get the work done: no more and no less. No business hires extra workers just because their pay is low and it's nice to have them around. The arguement that raising the minimum wage causes job loss is false for this very reason. Suppose McD cuts its counter staff after a wage hike. Service suffers, customers get pissed off and go to B-K or Wendy's for their burger and fries. The slight savings McD gains by cutting staff will disappear in the loss of customers to competitors who invest in maintaining good service. Sure a tiny Mom and Pop business may not hire a kid for part-time work after school if they have to pay him more, but over-all more people will be working for more money and the whole economy will benefit.

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minumum-wage vs: value-added service of the pols
Posted by: vespasian01 on Jan 3, 2006 4:21 AM   
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1) Fed legis votes itself pay raises and benefit increases on a consistent basis.
2) A full-time US Senate and House are not needed, or even useful.
3) Honest workers wages (considering slashed benefits and trashed pensions) have been on a nosedive during the five Bush2 years.
4) the Answer: Term-Limits. Keep their snouts out of the trough by virtue of their not being there.

5) I like smart broads; Molly, marry me!

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joQQeb
Posted by: joQQeb on Jan 3, 2006 5:46 AM   
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Had to wait until paragraph five for the punch line this time Molly. Minimum wage is not and was never intended as a wage to raise a family on. If your skill set is such that all you can command in the marketplace is minimum wage, you should not be considering starting a family. As for the person who created the family before they had any job; the private sector should not be expected to subsidize poor decision making.

Minimum wage is paid for minimum skill. Basically to show up on time, put in a full shift, and learn something of value to the company. I started at minimum wage back in 1982 when it was something like $3.25 per hour. I did not stay at that rate long, maybe three months. Almost 24 years later my high school diploma and I are doing just fine, as are my wife & kids.

I realize this is an alien concept, but businesses are actually started to make money, not to subsidize the salaries of unskilled labor. You want to make money, take time to learn valuable skills.

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Uhhh, Molly, ahhh
Posted by: J. Walter Plinge on Jan 3, 2006 10:01 AM   
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RE: SLOGANS

If anyone thinks that the Neocons have no strategy, no "slogans" – or that they are somehow SECRET – I hate to burst your bubble, but they are so obvious and SIMPLE it's in your face. You can believe me or you can read it for yourself for 20 bucks. Or you can save the 20 bucks and continue on your way to slavery with (little of) my sympathies.

But hey – really, I doubt anyonein the US will spend the 20 bucks on anything so weird as education. Nonetheless if you have not read it, I suggest you shut your trap and quit complaining (Like … Molly, amongst others (like the whole AlterNet crew)).

Buy Zbigniew Brzezinski's. "The Grand Chessboard – American Primacy And It's Geostrategic Imperatives," Basic Books, 1997.
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/RUP111B.html
http://ebean390.tripod.com/waltbrz.html

Here's the strategy. You can doubt it if you like but I challenge anyone to contest its effectiveness. It works, and it works fabulously.

This is it, the whole it, and nothing but it:

Excerpt from "The Grand Chessboard"
"…To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals [subordinates; dependents], to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." (p.40)




You can decypher from this, what you like, but there can be no denying that BLOGS such as this will go down in history as some of the most divisive in human history. Thanks Molly. Thanks Alternet.





"…To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals [subordinates; dependents], to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." (p.40)

TRANSLATION: Keep the people UNARMED, INCOMMUNICADO and DIVIDED.

Whadyathink?

The EXACT description of Alternet.

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Patsi
Posted by: Patsi on Jan 4, 2006 5:30 AM   
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I'd be happy to pay more for my burger and fries, coffee shop purchases and any other item kept cheap by minimum wages.

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Minimum wage jobs are entry level
Posted by: dikaiosyne on Jan 4, 2006 7:38 AM   
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Once again the leftists with the class warfare. You folks should remember when you took jobs in your misspent youth just to get you started in the work force. I started working at a city hospital in the early 1970's for the grand sum of $1.76 an hour. Within two years I was making $4.75 cents an hour. Now I make almost 6 figures a year with very nice bennies. I worked my way up the food chain and I didn't whine about how unfair "Big Bidness" was to me for paying such paltry wages. I knew things would get better if I worked hard and made the best of opportunities that came my way. The majority of you folks here seem to think you are entitled to much more than you are probably worth. If increased minimun wage is such a panacea then why don't we just raise it to $20.00 an hour? It would benefit a tiny few and put many others in the welfare line. Here's an idea. If an employer doesn't pay the wages to which you think you're entitled.... then don't take the job. You just know some illegal will take it gladly. You can go home and wait for some potential employer to call you with the offer you so richly deserve and are entitled to. Ehh?

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» RE: Minimum wage jobs are entry level Posted by: FlightOfTheBumbleBees
$4.25.....who would work for that??
Posted by: FlightOfTheBumbleBees on Jan 4, 2006 9:08 AM   
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I just visted the Dept. of Labor site and to my dismay I see that besides the few states that do not have a minimum wage law, Ohio has the lowest - lower even than Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands - minimum wage in the country. And sadly, Ohio is losing industry at a fast pace. $4.25! #$%@! I'm speechless, really. But for those Ohioans reading this article and blog...let's get out there and do something about it. ANd let's get rid of DeWine while we're active.

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family is a human right!
Posted by: esactun on Jan 6, 2006 9:36 AM   
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And I'm sick of people claiming that poor people have no business having numan rights!!! human rights. Oh, they're not allowed to have kids, get medical care, live anywhere, can never make a single mistake in their entire lives... it's economic bigotry, discrimination against the normal hardworking people who aren;t screwing their fellow men over (hence they'll never get a high-paying job, which, in the US today, are virtually all exploitative and do nothing but further the basest elements of America that are destroying this country.).

Yeah, human rights will cost you a few pennies. Quit whining and be a decent person ferchrissakes. The unbridled selfishness in this country today amazes me.

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Pathetic article
Posted by: dave013 on Jan 19, 2006 11:33 PM   
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Shame on you Molly! How dare you suggest the likes of Cindy Sheehan as being anything close to a hero? You must be joking. Instead of mentioning those that are overseas fighting in the middle east as "everyday heros", you pick a selfish "15 minutes of fame" and demented woman (Sheehan) to call a hero. John Murtha? Politician? Please! Maybe you need to reconsider calling somebody a hero not based on their political views which you already agree with, but someone who is judged by their actions to help and fight for others. Neither of those mentioned in your article do any of this.
You are misguided.

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