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Big Brother Bush

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted December 29, 2005.


I don't mean to scare you silly -- but there's a reason we have never given our government this kind of power.
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The first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. Thirty-five years ago, Richard Milhous Nixon, who was crazy as a bullbat, and J. Edgar Hoover, who wore women's underwear, decided some Americans had unacceptable political opinions. So they set our government to spying on its own citizens, basically those who were deemed insufficiently like Crazy Richard Milhous.

For those of you who have forgotten just what a stonewall paranoid Nixon was, the poor man used to stalk around the White House demanding that his political enemies be killed. Many still believe there was a certain Richard III grandeur to Nixon's collapse because he was also a man of notable talents. There is neither grandeur nor tragedy in watching this president, the Testy Kid, violate his oath to uphold the laws and Constitution of our country.

The Testy Kid wants to do what he wants to do when he wants to do it because he is the president, and he considers that sufficient justification for whatever he wants. He even finds lawyers like John Yoo, who tell him that whatever he wants to do is legal.

The creepy part is the overlap. Damned if they aren't still here, after all these years, the old Nixon hands -- Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, the whole gang whose yearning for authoritarian government rose like a stink over the Nixon years. Imperial executive. Bring back those special White House guard uniforms. Cheney, like some malignancy that cannot be killed off, back at the same old stand, pushing the same old crap. Of course, they tell us we have to be spied on for our own safety, so they can catch the terrorists who threaten us all. Thirty-five years ago, they nabbed a film star named Jean Seberg and a bunch of people running a free breakfast program for poor kids in Chicago. This time, they're onto the Quakers. We are not safer.

We would be safer, as the 9-11 commission has so recently reminded us, if some obvious and necessary precautions were taken at both nuclear and chemical plants -- but that is not happening because those industries contribute to Republican candidates. Republicans do not ask their contributors to spend a lot of money on obvious and necessary steps to protect public safety. They wiretap, instead. You will be unsurprised to learn that, first, they lied. They didn't do it. Well, OK, they did it, but not very much at all. Well, OK, more than that. A lot more than that. OK, millions of private e-mail and telephone calls every hour, and all medical and financial records.

You may recall in 2002 it was revealed that the Pentagon had started a giant data-mining program called Total Information Awareness (TIA), intended to search through vast databases "to increase information coverage by an order of magnitude."

From credit cards to vet reports, Big Brother would be watching us. This dandy program was under the control of Adm. John Poindexter, convicted of five felonies during Iran-Contra, all overturned on a technicality. This administration really knows where to go for good help -- it ought to bring back Brownie.

Everybody decided that TIA was a terrible idea, and the program was theoretically shut down. As often happens with this administration, it turned out they just changed the name and made the program less visible. Data-mining was a popular buzzword at the time, and the administration was obviously hot to have it. Bush established a secret program under which the National Security Agency could bypass the FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) court and begin eavesdropping on Americans without warrants.

As many have patiently pointed out, the entire program was unnecessary, since the FISA court is both prompt and accommodating. There is virtually no possible scenario that would make it difficult or impossible to get a FISA warrant -- it has granted 19,000 warrants and rejected only a handful.

I don't like to play scary games where we all stay awake late at night, telling each other scary stories -- but there's a reason we have never given our government this kind of power. As the late Sen. Frank Church said, "That capability could at any time be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capacity to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter. There would be no place to hide."

And if a dictator took over, the NSA "could enable it to impose total tyranny." Then we always get that dreadful goody-two-shoes response, "Well, if you aren't doing anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about, do you?"

Folks, we KNOW this program is being and will be misused. We know it from the past record and current reporting. The program has already targeted vegans and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals -- and, boy, if those aren't outposts of al-Qaida, what is? Could this be more pathetic?

This could scarcely be clearer. Either the president of the United States is going to have to understand and admit he has done something very wrong, or he will have to be impeached. The first time this happened, the institutional response was magnificent. The courts, the press, the Congress all functioned superbly. Anyone think we're up to that again? Then whom do we blame when we lose the republic?

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Molly Ivins writes about politics, Texas and other bizarre happenings.

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Jefferson
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 29, 2005 2:50 AM   
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Thomas Jefferson said it in the Declaration of Independence...I don't have a copy of the document with me at the moment so I'll have to paraphrase. But there is a line in there to the effect, that when certain abuses become to much to take over long periods of time IT IS YOUR DUTY TO DESTROY OR ABOLISH THAT FORM OF GOVERNMENT. Perfect! This government must be destroyed - nonviolently, of course - but destroyed, utterly, completely, nonetheless. Alot of people in the legislative abd the executive should be thrown in prison and that includes the president and vice president. Jefferson's words will be our arrest warrent. What the hell are we waiting for???
Tom Degan
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Remember Barbara Jordan
Posted by: StoneRiley on Dec 29, 2005 3:52 AM   
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"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution."

There was one truly extraordinary moment in the Nixon impeachment hearings shortly before his resignation. Barbara Jordan, a black southern Congresswoman, a member of the Judiciary Committee, a college law professor, spoke to the committee -- and to the nation through the TV camera -- about the nature of American democracy and the need to check Presidential tyranny. The large audience was rapt in silence, hanging on her words. The brief speech was so lucid and convincing that a white conservative businessman in her hometown of Houston immediately put up a message on a large billboard beside a downtown freeway. The billboard said: "Thank you, Barbara Jordan, for explaining our Constitution to us."

A transcript is here:
http://www.elf.net/bjordan/judiciary.html

And a transcript of her magnificent keynote address to the next Democratic national convention is here:
http://www.elf.net/bjordan/keynote.html

Here is video of those speeches, and also a eulogy by Bill Moyers:
http://txtell.lib.utexas.edu/stories/media/j0001-video.html

Submitted by Stone Riley
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Our Government has been highjacked and pillaged
Posted by: kencohen on Dec 29, 2005 4:32 AM   
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Over the past 6 years, I have never witnessed our culture sink to such a low level of depravity and ignorance. Right wing fanatics blare invectives and bold face lies over the airways received as truths and moral imperatives. The Bush administration claims to be protecting our way of life from "terrorists" by dismantling the foundations and principles that have defined our very way of life from our inception. All the while, they rob our treasury to fund a war inspired for reasons still not disclosed and tell our traditional allies and the world to go to hell if they don't like our behavior.
First stonewalling the formation of the 9/11 Commission then summarily ignoring their recommendation exposes a truth about this adminsitrations real motivation to keep us safe.
They create media issues that are innane and/or irrelevant (gay marriage, creationism, etc) to distract from the real and significant domestic problems that face us (Katrina exposed). While the 20% of the richest Americans have seen their incomes increase over the past 4 years, the remaining 80% have seen a steady decline of their average salaries. This administration has had the unmitigated nerve to promote themselves as moral and religiously pious while committing some of the most amoral and criminal acts. So, it is no surprise that they can believe that they are above the law or interpret statutes correctly (to their liking).
The Right wing has convinced the electorate that they have the answers and have taken control of all branches of government. This administration's hubris and bold faced arrogance has progressively alienated enough of their own party to begin to divide ranks. Their deceit and incompetence is also becoming exposed. I hope that the new voices of leadership can arise from the ashes to restore our way of life before it sinks any further.

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But Remember the Behavior of a Cornered Animal
Posted by: diof09 on Dec 29, 2005 4:38 AM   
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With the passive-aggressive nature of Bush & Co. (which I think 9/11 was one of the first manifestations) I could see him "allowing" attacks, catastrophes, etc. to happen just to "show us" how much we needed his constant vigilance through wiretapping. That too me is the real danger, This band of lunatics will find some way to twist this to their advantage.

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Yes, but where is our response.
Posted by: Farragher on Dec 29, 2005 5:09 AM   
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Molly's right again, but what makes me wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night is the alrming lack of response to all of it. The real danger is very clear to many of us, but obviously not to enough of us. I would have expected a deafening hew and cry, but no, you have to put your ear to the rail to hear anything at all. Maybe after the holidays, huh......?! Our representatives are silent in regard to this administration's admitted criminal activity. Why? And more importantly, how do we break that silence. Clearly the time has come to do more than preach to the chior.

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A New Civil War in Reverse
Posted by: menckenman on Dec 29, 2005 5:20 AM   
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The Blue States need to secede from the Bible Belt. I think its time New York and California become the new confederacy. Isn't that what the South has wanted since the civil war? Cut them loose, every state out for itself. An outright war would be better than watching the US become a fascist dictatorship.

The only patriotic response to this President is impeachment.

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Another march perhaps?
Posted by: starvinmarvy on Dec 29, 2005 5:24 AM   
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A few years ago,I remember the Captain of a womans basketball team ..I think N.Y somewhere...turned her back on the Flag as the Nation Anthem was playing.It was in protest of the Iraq war..among other things as I recall,which created quite a news story for the major networks."How could she"?
"How horribly un-patriotic"??? Well....guess what folks?She displayed the kind of courage its gonna take all of us...to save our sinking ship! That paticular news story has stuck in my mind everytime I rise for the anthem..of recite the pledge
of allegence...I too now wonder WHY..I`m doing this?But after
some thought I look at it this way now...as I`m sining the anthem..or say the pledge of allegence...I don`t picture the Capital Building or White House..or past Pres Monuments...or
guys dying on a battlefield ...I picture US..the citizens who make up this country!!The miners...the factory workers..the
farmers...the kind people who volunteer their time to help others! I pledge my Allegence to all of you!! AS FOR THIS GOVERNMENT.....another story alltogether.They don`t represent me! Even if we DO change some leadership in the Senate/House/President...to a Democratic majority...we STILL
need to pay close attention...and to weed out all those who
go against whats only right ..for US,,the AMERICAN PEOPLE!!

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» RE: Another march perhaps? Posted by: Lincoln fan
Molly, I beg to differ
Posted by: Germanicus on Dec 29, 2005 5:25 AM   
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I humbly beg to differ. If I went before a judge and said I was sorry for robbing that liquour store (especially when it is pretty damn clear that I am not), do you think that judge would, or even should, let me off?

George W. Bush violated the law in full cognizance of his actions - as evidence I submit his and Cheney's by turns lame and chilling attempts at justifications for these actions. If we are to remain a civil society governed by laws, then the president of the United States must be impeached. There is no alternative. Whether or not he is removed from office is for the Senate to decide.

Second, Tom:
I would agree rather with StoneRiley. The Constitution is still valid. Our problem is that we have not been using it much of late. Abolishing our form of government is exactly what these thugs have been doing these past five years. A perhaps more relevant quote from that other Tom might be:

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.


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Just had to share...
Posted by: Germanicus on Dec 29, 2005 6:07 AM   
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While not strictly speaking relevant, I think it definitely falls in the big brother category. From the paper formerly known as the paper of record on the Jose Padilla case (bold text is mine for emphasis):

But Solicitor General Paul D. Clement, in the administration's new filing Wednesday asking the Supreme Court to take up the custody issue, said the Fourth Circuit's decision "defies both law and logic," and he noted that Mr. Padilla himself had sought to be transferred to civilian custody.

In unusually caustic language, the solicitor general said the Fourth Circuit did not have the authority to "disregard a presidential directive." And he said its decision blocking Mr. Padilla's transfer "is based on a mischaracterization of events and an unwarranted attack on the exercise of executive discretion, and, if given effect, would raise profound separation-of-powers concerns."


Full article here

I mean, if it weren't our country going to hell, this would be hilarious.

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Impeach Bush
Posted by: packofwolves on Dec 29, 2005 6:25 AM   
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Bush and all of his wicked cronies need to go. Impeach them all. If we allow this president to continue status quo, he will get his wish and become our new dictator. Didn't you see that speech where Bush admitted he aspires to a dictatorship as long as he is the dictator. He probably wasn't joking. But he's laughing at all of us.

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succinct quote
Posted by: kww355 on Dec 29, 2005 6:29 AM   
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I love my country

I FEAR my government

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Impeach Big Brother
Posted by: sassicatz on Dec 29, 2005 7:09 AM   
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What really scares me is that Clinton was impeached for a blow job, but Bush walks all over the constitution and laws of the land and no one blinks an eye. There is something very wrong with this scenario.

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bigtime
Posted by: pnut on Dec 29, 2005 7:14 AM   
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Sir-People, What scares me is--the republicans think mr bush is the best thing past nixon. I have a friend, he thinks mr bush is God him self, he finds a way to justify all of his actions. no one can tell him he is not God. How can any thing be done with 40-50% of the people so dumb. I am at a loss. bigtime

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Molly you're so right!
Posted by: RonaldBosch on Dec 29, 2005 7:56 AM   
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I'm sure you have no political aspirations Molly, but GEEZ we need some sane perspective. How about leading us out of this mess? If you then want to quit, so be it. BUT HELP US GET RID OF THESE GOONS!

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» RE: Molly you're so right! Posted by: Doubtom
GOP gets offer they can't refuse
Posted by: runawaychimp on Dec 29, 2005 8:10 AM   
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I expect that pretty soon we will be seeing the Republican members of congress being called to a special "strategy" meeting by the their leadership and the president. The pitch will go something liike this.

"Look boys, you can go all legalistic and vote with the Democrats for impeachment to preserve the constitutional balance of congress. Just remember, you won't be re-elected to that congress. Voters will still see you as members of the party of the disgraced and impeached president. You loose, the president looses, and the party looses. Or you can let this little transgression slide, and the president will use his expanded powers to make sure you stay in office as part of the endless and all-powerful GOP government this country needs and deserves. We will take good care of you and everybody wins"

Judging by past performance I think we know how the majority of them will decide.

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NOTABLE
Posted by: Barnett on Dec 29, 2005 8:31 AM   
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Considering Iraq a tragedy is a mild assessment.So if in times of grief we do not laugh a bit - we are left with the option of crying a lot. In reflecting on how the Iraq war was advanced - we might laugh a little as Blair and Bush are given annual awards for 2005... ( visit the blog at wwww.gobaljusticeonline.com.. for more)....
Annual NOTABLE awards for Blair and Bush ( 2005) - Afghan/Iraq Review - Carter speaks.
December 22nd, 2005
Annual NOTABLE awards for Blair and Bush ( 2005) – Afghan/ Iraq Review – Carter speaks.

In 2003, the “NOTABLE” AWARD was presented to Prime Minister Tony Blair of the United Kingdom. This year the NOTABLE COMMITTEE having reviewed our short-list for mendacity, again recognises Blair’s sterling contribution. President Bush remained a contender, but the committee determined that Bush does not have either the brains or the capacity for articulate deception.

Bush, however, has this year been recognised as the President most worthy of the H.L. Mencken prize. In light of Mencken’s words, the committee commends President Bush for his undeniable suitability for the award, and congratulates Blair on his victory.

CITATION TO PRIME MINISTER TONY BLAIR

16th December 2003

Prime Minister Anthony Blair
10 Downing Street
London SW1 A 2AA
England

Dear Prime Minister Blair,

It is a distinct pleasure to inform you that the ‘NOTABLE COMMITTEE for liar of the year’ has by unanimous decision declared you ‘ NOTABLE liar of the year for 2003’. Normally, the committee makes its decision in January of the New Year. On this occasion, your mendacity so impressed us that for the first time in the committee’s history exemption was made in acknowledgement of your achievements.

There can be no doubt that in your capacity as Prime Minister, you lied brilliantly in support of the war in Iraq. No less a person than Saddam Hussein, is reputed to have said of one of your falsehoods, that you had just uttered, “The mother of all lies”. We crave your indulgence while we recall some of your finer moments.

We noted the unflinching servility with which you dedicated yourself to lying for President Bush as his poodle, in advancing the case for war against Iraq. The claim that Saddam had Weapons of...continued at blog at www.globaljusticeonline.com

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Be afraid....be very afraid.
Posted by: nise52 on Dec 29, 2005 8:34 AM   
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Nearly every day we hear another "expose" about how Bush walked all over the Constitution (if not the law!).

He's the little boy playing with his tin soldiers (in Iraq), stamping his feet and pouting (Supreme Court appointees), and hoping his henchmen let him play King Bush in the near future.

He was elected by 52 million Americans who had heard his name and figured that since he was already in office, might as well let him have another 4 years. That's all they knew about him. (don't laugh...my mother actually used this rationale for voting for him!).

Those people couldn't care less who's in office as long as they get to keep their big screen tv's, SUV's and "girls gone wild" videos.

And that's what scares me. The complete stupidity and compacency of the American public. And those of us who cry out in anger and frustration are labeled liberals or unpatriotic goons who need to be thrown out of the country or jailed (you know where).

It's Germany in 1933 all over again....

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» Don't be afraid of Bush Posted by: Lincoln fan
As I've said before...
Posted by: NamVeT on Dec 29, 2005 8:36 AM   
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it won't be long until king georgie halibush and his criminal pals take over this country. The next "terror incident" will of course be planned and carried out by this contemptable bunch! IMPEACHMENT IS THE ONLY WAY to get this great country of ours back, if possible. If we don't move NOW, I fear that it will be too late. Hang bushie, cheney, rummy, and all of them in the public square! We are being RULED by incompetents!

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» The next one? Posted by: hbw
» RE: As I've said before... Posted by: Doubtom
Deconstructing Molly
Posted by: Psychomike on Dec 29, 2005 8:39 AM   
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Let's play deconstruction.
I don't mean to scare you silly -- but there's a reason we have never given our government this kind of power.

(Ok folks, here's where we have the first problems. The entire article, and a glimpse at the comments below it confirms this, is meant to scare you.This is done by carefully mixing fantasy with fact and ignoring all negative aspects to any other parties.

FDR made sure no article about the war appeared in print until it was checked by the War Office. Can you imagine what the left would say today if every piece done on Iraq, including those stories told on blogs and on the net, had to be turned in to be ok'd?

FDR was the first President to unleash J. Edgar Hoover on the American public- by transforming the FBI into a spying machine against critics of the FDR administration - and consequently allowing our nation to be infiltrated for years by spies loyal to Stalin.

The first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. Thirty-five years ago, Richard Milhous Nixon, who was crazy as a bullbat, and J. Edgar Hoover, who wore women's underwear, decided some Americans had unacceptable political opinions.

( Richard Nixon supported a draft. He paid reparations to Native Americans and gave the tribes freedoms that would allow them to open casinos. He initiated the endangered species act which could be used to stop 'capitalist developement' by those that support such things. He brought about a wage price freeze, a socialist control of government. He recognized China, an act that would have caused calls of treason if it had been done by liberals at the time. So why do leftists refuse to admit any of this?

Now, let's deconstruct the Hoover comment. Hoover DID NOT WEAR WOMEN'S CLOTHES. Here is an unbiased source, gay bashing ok for the left

Ok. It's a lie.
But wait you say. The left supports, loves and defends gays.

So, why do they continue to tell this fib about Hoover?

Because clearly, it is just one more piece of rhetoric that collapses upon examination. If they really did support gays, why would they pass on this ridiculous story, meant to dismiss Hoover purely on the grounds that he wore "women's clothes/ was gay"? )

I could go on, but I'm out of room.

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Engage in discourse
Posted by: Llama11 on Dec 29, 2005 8:42 AM   
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If you want to reach people, talk to people. Next time your on the bus or at work or in class, start talking to people about Bush and his deplorable policies. Most people, when pushed hard enough, really cannot argue very clearly for Bush. To them it's about gay marriage, abortion, or even, "he seems like the kind of guy you could have a drink with." (Seriously, somebody told me that.) Other people will say "I don't care" which is the most dangerous attitude of all. If we want to spread our ideas, we need to be heard. I love arguing with Bush lovers in public. Most of the time they just back down.

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Bravo!
Posted by: ScottP on Dec 29, 2005 8:42 AM   
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Another excellent article, thanks!

Now we must decide on the action to be taken. Not that we have to agree, for through multiple actions we can hedge our bets against the uncertainty of the future. So I'll take the initiative to (re)state some possibilities:

- impeachment: certainly a good start, and a good way to scare some of the stooges into behavior modification. But the danger is that just as Iran went from the Shah to unimaginably worse, we could do the same. Plus it's not very likely, given the robber baron hold on the mainstream media and the gullibility of the populace.

- make the defense budget an issue, call your Congressperson. If Congress would just cut the funding for the Iraq war, the troops would start coming home today. If they cut the NSA budget, they wouldn't have the funds to spy on everyone all the time.

- make declassification an issue. If the classified documents started rolling out for all to read, more people would wake up. National security is being used as a cover for political protection. Let's have a look at the assassination of Allende, the coup attempt against Chavez, and the lies about Iraq. Watch Cheney cringe when records of him scheming with oil executives to get richer while callously dismissing national security.

- make alternative energy research an issue. When the defense budget is cut, there are a lot of talented techies who could turn their efforts to developing solar energy systems instead of faster fighter jets and more cruel napalm.

- your idea goes here!

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» RE: Bravo! Posted by: Lincoln fan
My two cents worth...
Posted by: ftorres on Dec 29, 2005 8:42 AM   
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Molly Iven is a icon of free expression. Why she hasn't been ordered kidnapped by the White House and sent to some hidden CIA torture chamber is real amazing being the many many innocent human beings are in that category now. Molly and many others, expecially on the internet are perhaps the only things that keep many of us from losing faith in the entire government. I remember the (I'm no crook!) Nixon's, the Reagan's and Bush the elder Adminstrations quite well...but this guy in the White House really exposed a madmen drunk with power. I blame it all on the Red States, the Conservative Christian coalition's deranged fundamentalist dogma and the corporate news media. But the most blame goes to the Judicial and Legislature Branches of Government who "played the fiddle while Rome burn!" With the exception of a few legislators, the entire House and Senate need to jailed for betraying the Constitution of the United State, a treasonable act. The truth is, Americans either forget too easily or just ignore the past. Everytime a Republican gets into the White House, the world holds it's breath. Looting the treasury that past Democratic Presidents left when they leave office is a key strategy for Republicans. And Americans still keep voting these international war criminals in! That's the mystery of it all.

But the most humorous incident of Mad Dick's regime was those White House guard uniforms! They looked like keystone cops just like the ones we see in a Charlie Chaplin silent movie. I don't know how true this is, but someone stated that Nixon actually wore one in the White House! To keep on with the spirit of Mad Dick, the White House now has one that loves to strut around in uniforms, especially landing on carriers decks claiming victory! That is after he deserted his post during the Vietnam war!

Meanwhile, the carnage goes on.

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» RE: My two cents worth... Posted by: YogiBear
Fascism, American-style
Posted by: thomas adcock on Dec 29, 2005 8:51 AM   
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The oil barons Bush & Cheney have stolen two successive elections and established corporatism as the American governmental form--corporatism and fascism being one in the same, according to the late Benito Mussolini.

Logically, now comes:

--Permanent military aggression as political policy ("war on terror," "shock & awe," "coalition of the willing," ad nauseum), complete with international economic bribery as a means of attracting allies;

--Attacks on or outright suspension of basic freedoms inherent in a modern democratic state, complete with mass degradation of voting processes;

--A virtual ministry of propaganda to promote permanent fear, complete with the incarceration of working journalists, patriotic sloganeering, dire warnings of imminent peril to the national security, alliance with religionists and constant threats to corporate owners of a largely compliant news media;

--Marked increases in police brutality and prison populations;

--Emasculation of labor unions as a fundamental tenet of economic policy;

--Emasculation of the middle classes by means of tax policy favoring those who live off unearned income, favorable legislation to credit card issuers and other exploiters of the consumer economy, so-called, and wholesale destruction of the manufacturing segment of U.S. payrolls;

--Tacit encouragement of racial and religious discrimination as a means of destroying unity among those opposed to fascism;

--Reliance on the docility and obediance of the middle classes, exhausted by overwork and fearful of losing property and social status per the sad experience of friends and family members.

Tom Adcock
North Chatham, N.Y.

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» RE: Yep Posted by: jefhadist
Our Government
Posted by: mizerock on Dec 29, 2005 9:07 AM   
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They wanted Clinton out, so they went after him. They want Bush to stay, so they are not going after him. So who are They? Our real leaders, I guess. That's the simplest explanation, isn't it - that multinational corporations run this place, not "we the people"?

And I wouldn't even complain about it, if They were instead (or even in addition!) doing things to protect us. The leaders are there, but aren't allowed to lead us.

The alternative to sticking your head in the sand (which most Americans are happy to do, and can you blame them?) is to sound paranoid, is it not?

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» RE: Our Government Posted by: Lincoln fan
Forget it
Posted by: Llama11 on Dec 29, 2005 9:09 AM   
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Progressives, we must capitulate. Of course fair-minded Mr. Bush has our interests at heart. He loves us all. Why would we want to oppose our nation's greatest citizen? It is treasonous to oppose the President, or the war in Iraq, or tax cuts for the rich. After all, trickle-down economics really works.

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Harry Pate
Posted by: Harry Pate on Dec 29, 2005 9:30 AM   
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The Republicans want it both ways. For years they've been telling us that government is bad & it can't be trusted. Now they tell us that the Bush administration is looking out for us so we should just trust them.

The voters have got to understand that if they let this president spy on anyone he wants, they'll have to let every president do it in the future. Would they want a President John Kerry, Al Gore, or Hilary Clinton to have the same power?

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