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That End-Of-Empire Feeling

By David Corn, TomPaine.com. Posted December 8, 2005.


Bush's ill-advised foray into Iraq may well prove the beginning of the end of America's global economic dominance.
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Is the United States in the last throes of empire?

That sounds like an ideologically loaded, fatalistic and defeatist question. But it's what I've been wondering about at the start of this holiday season.

Might future historians look back at the Bush II days and ask if this was the point when the country started slipping? Might the war in Iraq be regarded as a desperate act of a superpower that had already peaked? Will economists of the latter 21st century examine our economic decisions and say, "What were they thinking?" Or has the Grinch gotten to me?

Treasury Secretary John Snow says 'tis the season to be merry because the malls are crowded and the American economy, under the watchful gaze of George W. Bush, is on the move. But perhaps a touch of foreboding is merited. The White House and its conservative pals, trying to take advantage of the cheery season, have recently started a new campaign that claims Bush has been denied the credit for an economy that is expanding at a decent clip and that produced 215,000 jobs last month.

In fact, polls show that most Americans -- whether they're happy in the malls or not -- have a downbeat view of the economy. And there are solid reasons why Americans should not put aside concerns about the country's long-term economic prospects and why Bush should not be pronounced the savior of the American economy.

First, the correlation between presidential action (especially tax cuts) and economic performance is iffy. How many conservatives credited Bill Clinton, who raised taxes on the wealthy and balanced the budget, for the explosive economic boom that occurred in the 1990s? By contrast, the results -- and costs -- of a military invasion are easier to tie directly to a commander in chief than economic developments. If most of the public believes Bush deliberately misled the nation into a bad war -- which is what most do think at the present time -- then Americans can be excused for not hailing Bush for the uptick in economic numbers for which he might or might not bear responsibility.

Perhaps Americans also know -- or feel -- that wage growth has lagged behind GDP growth. Or that the growing economy is a hot-money economy fueled by reckless borrowing (which could be read as a sign of national fading glory). Nervous Nellies like Alan Greenspan warn that, despite the recent economic growth, Bush is driving the federal budget off a cliff by creating trillions of dollars of debt that will have to be paid off after he leaves office. The current fiscal policy and the ballooning federal deficits, Greenspan claims, are "unsustainable."

The outgoing Federal Reserve chairman is mostly fretting about a budget crunch that will be provoked by Medicare and Social Security obligations. But he also has noted that the growing trade deficit -- and the spiraling cost of servicing it -- poses a serious threat. A friend who is building a private equity fund for emerging markets summed up the macro situation for me this way: "What a great system. The Chinese lend us money to buy their goods. Then we have to pay back the loans with interest. They make money off us on both ends." Who are the better capitalists?

If the American economy is being hollowed out in age of globalization, do the traditional numbers -- jobs produced, the unemployment rate -- have the same meaning as they did in days of greater stability? Job creation may be up for the moment. But long-term job security and right-now health care security are less certain. Middle-class Americans can no longer expect to remain in a well-paying job for decades, as many American workers once assumed they would. Consider this: GM recently announced it will be dumping 30,000 jobs and closing several plants. Shortly after that, I heard CNN anchor Miles O'Brien gushing about a Toyota truck plant being built in San Antonio, Texas, that will create up to 2000 jobs paying $9 to $11 an hour. That's about $20,000 a year -- much less than what unionized autoworkers have made. Despite O'Brien's enthusiasm, this is hardly a tit for GM's tat.


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David Corn is the Washington editor of The Nation and author of "The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception." He writes a blog at davidcorn.com.

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We've had these feelings....
Posted by: churchofone on Dec 8, 2005 3:24 AM   
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....for some time now in the Motor City!

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the war drives the economy
Posted by: rtdrury on Dec 8, 2005 3:27 AM   
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Much of the job creation that the U.S. president claims for his tax-cut racket is actually due to his war racket. The many privatizations of military services in these perpetual wars creates lots of high-paying jobs, and drive secondary industries such as vacation home purchases, primary mansion upgrades, customized RVs and yachts, etc. We don't hear about those high-paying war jobs because they are sold on the lie that they save money, but they add them to their jobs figures to get a political boost. They want to get more people working in the military industry, get them dependent on the military, so those employees will support the idea of perpetual war. 6 trillion dollars will be spent by the Pentagon in these 8 years and that amount more will be spent taking care of the Veterans.

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» RE: the war drives the economy... down Posted by: ConnecttheDots
Downward spiral
Posted by: Moonray on Dec 8, 2005 5:08 AM   
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The serious economic plight of the U.S. is due mainly to our obsession with short-term profits at the expense of long-term planning that benefits the nation as a whole. And the above commenter is correct that war-making is a big part of generating those profits.l

Unfortunately, not much can be done at this point to correct the situation, as the corporate establishment is firmly in control of the mass media, except the Internet, thank God.
Those media don't so much inform as provide random, incoherent information. In TV news channel broadcasts, the screen is cluttered with icons and distracting crawls of random factoids to keep the audience from focusing too much on what is being said. (Check out Fox News' approach: When a liberal is interviewed, the screen will erupt with even more distractions that usual!)

It's no wonder most American voters trudge to the polls like sheep and mainly vote for (mostly Republican) incumbents. The corporate establishment's system of perpetuating our "democracy" works very well. Too bad the nation is going to hell in a handbasket at the same time.

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» RE: Downward spiral Posted by: Spot
war is your future
Posted by: menckenman on Dec 8, 2005 6:02 AM   
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The rich elite have to keep the rest of the booboisie in perpetual fear and anger, in a war mood, by giving what they secretly want: torture and religious murder of infidels and niggers.

And lots of luxury goods and mindless tv to go along with that.

It all leads to armegeddon anyhow, so don't get your dander up. have another beer and start gettin' ready for the resurrection brother.

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» RE: war is your future Posted by: Fade
» RE: war is your future Posted by: crusty
» Boob - wah - "Z"? Posted by: LeonDion
» RE: Boob - wah - "Z"? Posted by: Chris420
Zionist parasites are bleeding the US dry
Posted by: tommyboy on Dec 8, 2005 6:05 AM   
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The Russians, Iranians and Chinese are rolling on the ground laughing. As the US suckered Russia into invading Afghanistan, the Iranians and other opponents of US world domination have all helped the Zionists "cook" the intelligence books to draw the moronic American sheeple into wanting war.

The Zionists know they are F'd demographically and financially and hope to keep the US in the region destroying one enemy of Israel after another and the continued financing of the Socialist Israeli economy. The Iranians wanted the dominant Sunni of Iraq out of the way so they could claim all of Southern Iraq. Their Zionist zombie W, wants to steal huge tons cash for he and his boyz. The Iraq war was a perfect cover. This war also fits their plans for accelerating the bankruptcy of the US to allow political cover for dumping all entitlements programs.

The US is now in another Vietnam and bleeding like a stuck pig. When the time is right, China, Russia and Iran will flood Iraq with anti-air and anti-armor weapons. The US death toll will rocket up. The US military will be pinned down in the huge bases being built. All supplies will need to be flown in ala the Berlin airlift. Many will be shot down. After the US leaves, a huge war for the spoils of Iraq will break out.

The end result for the US will be just like after Vietnam but only 10x worse. Nixon was forced to pull the dollar off the gold standard since the expenditures in Vietnam had destroyed the dollars value. He then ran to China to try and kiss up. The sellers of commodities like OIL, said "F" you to the US and forced prices higher to cover the loss of value of the dollar. This was the REAL reason for the first oil embargo. In the end, the dollar will lose it's exclusiveness as the currency of commerce.

The Zionists will then dump the drained US and hop into bed further with China and Russia. Most americans have no clue a huge percentage of Israelis are Russians, including Sharon.

Say goodbye to the US you knew. Can you say breadlines and soup kitchens? I though you could.....

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empire in decline
Posted by: esactun on Dec 8, 2005 6:14 AM   
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My friends and I have been likening America to the late Roman Empire for some years now—overstretched by foreign military adventures, an indifferent public fattened up on bread and circuses too lazy to care about creeping fascism and stolen elections, vast and rampant corruption in both public and private sectors, bald-faced lying by “leaders”, robber barons robbing the people, and an unshakeable certainty that we are the Greatest Country on Earth and hence can do no wrong.

I recently wrote a song called “Empire in Decline”, in fact. I’ll post it to www.myspace.com/metriccheesehead Thursday evening EST:

“Holy cow, my country’s dying, an empire in decline
Steady diet of bread and circus, and everything looks fine
So wave your flags for our long-lost glory
Empire in decline ...”

PS: There's a great letter in the Providence Journal today (projo.com) that, without being in-your-face, gently points out the chilling parallels between Japanese aggression against us in 1941 and US aggression in Iraq today. One-word summary: OIL.

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» RE: empire in decline Posted by: jainist
The US FUD machine & the American people.
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Dec 8, 2005 7:01 AM   
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Since WW II the United States is a predator nation; a shallow nation; the great white whore. It's leaders have been callous and without compassion unless it served the national political/corporate/military interest. For the last few decades, the American people have been clueless and leaderless. Blame is not a game, it's about accountability!

Per Harold Pinter, "As every single person here knows, the justification for the invasion of Iraq was that Saddam Hussein possessed a highly dangerous body of weapons of mass destruction, some of which could be fired in 45 minutes, bringing about appalling devastation. We were assured that was true. It was not true. We were told that Iraq had a relationship with Al Quaeda and shared responsibility for the atrocity in New York of September 11th 2001. We were assured that this was true. It was not true. We were told that Iraq threatened the security of the world. We were assured it was true. It was not true.

The truth is something entirely different. The truth is to do with how the United States understands its role in the world and how it chooses to embody it. "

America is no longer a country of leadership and good people. It's politicians, media and "leaders" of industry have made sure of that, while the Americans people have done nothing but entertain themselves while the former were "saving democracy" for countries to be ruled by right wing military dictatorships of their choice such as Indonesia, Greece, Uruguay, Brazil, Paraguay, Haiti, Turkey, the Philippines, Guatemala, El Salvador, Chile, Nicaragua, Panama, Iran, Iraq and others.

The American people can no longer sit back and listen and believe the P. T. Barnums that it has for leaders, but must take an active role if they ever want real freedom and self determination continue. The K street Plutocracy and the Military Industrial complex must be subdued by the American people to work for the American people if the American people want to live in a thriving democracy. The American people must engage with people from other countries, not just their elected, appointed and commercial P. T. Barnums of the airwaves and industry. The American people must hold not only themselves accountable for their role in the world, but be ever vigilant of people in power, holding them to a higher level of accountable for their actions, as with power comes extra responsibility.

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Thank you
Posted by: memememem on Dec 8, 2005 7:22 AM   
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for noting the Chinese Irony!
The US have borrowed the better part of $750 Billions to the Chinese.
When Bush was last in China, they ordered 70 Jets... Boeing was crowing!
Who is paying for them? You are.
When I start buying food on credit from my Chinese supermarket with the Intests on the Principal I owe themmmm.
Boy am I in trouble!
Particularly if the owner shortly going to trade in Euros for major equipment purchases eg Petrol in Iran, Chavez in Venezuela, 150 Planes from Europe.... Not in US almighty dollars.
So yes, this needs to be known in the US.
I for one have changed my small accounts to local currencies and am saving alot of money....Multiply by a whopping $750 Billion the US owes China, then there's Japan, Russia.... All switching to a wider Currency basket..
Crunchtime soon.
This is not a I told you so posting.
This is concerned posting.
Even under Clinton, it was Dicey but at least on paper, the country was showing a surplus.
Can you imagine the misery for the Baby boomers who are going to find out their Supa Funds cannot pay? See Ford.....
So do we need more phony wars so Boeing keeps being the largest Company in the world... Largest on borrowed money?
WTO dispute with Europe sits squarely there.
Please Readers. Keep thinking Global. Do not narrow your analyses to purely US events.
America has mainly always been bad. It is getting much badder! And Europe is scared stiff.
Most major media there have stopped whipping up well deserved anti-american sentiments.
Most Governments there play down the US Illegalities.
I have referred on another post to the cuurent admin as the Drunken Boat. But cannot find a better analogy.
Are we witnessing the beginning of the end in America?
It all started.... many moons ago with too much credit.. and then.
Shit. I'm blue again!

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» RE: Thank you Posted by: tommyboy
» RE: yes and no Posted by: memememem
How can anybody....
Posted by: farfar on Dec 8, 2005 7:38 AM   
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....doubt that the answer to David's first three questions is yes? At least the first and the third, I don't know about the second. The end of empire is in sight, our emerging competitors would see to that eventually. But it's helped along immeasurably by the greed, cluelessness and incompetence of the Bush administration.
Amazing that it even has to be said.
Farfar

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A poem comes to mind...
Posted by: yianni on Dec 8, 2005 8:24 AM   
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Being Greek I have a couple of empire's history to draw on and can definitely say that the signs are all there. A poem comes to mind as rather fitting: Waiting for the barbarians

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Boycott
Posted by: ScottP on Dec 8, 2005 8:48 AM   
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WalMart
Exxon
TV
cheap plastic toys
candy for children

When you go to a store, make it a locally owned store. When you buy something, look at the label and pay more for the US product. The money you save buying cheap imported stuff goes right back out of your pocket in unemployment insurance. Rather than going to a store to buy toys for your child, do something fun with her. She'll remember the card games you played with her more fondly than the toys you bought her. If she thinks she has to have the thing all the other kids have, remind her that soup lines are filled with people who were popular as children, and give her a hug instead.

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bethanylm@wightman.ca
Posted by: otto on Dec 8, 2005 9:23 AM   
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As part of the end of "The Empire", I find myself expecting both acts of terrorism by the poor in Latin American countries, (what we used to call resistance and sabotage by the French in WWII), and more riots and revolutions like Detroit, Watts, Philodelphia in the 60's. I wonder which will come first?

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Waiting For The Signal
Posted by: rockpicker on Dec 8, 2005 10:15 AM   
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Waiting For The Signal

These pages that bring us together
are the fire in the cave above the stream,
a dream we move in and out of, faceless,
expendable, waiting for a burst of wings
to spill our pooled bones like coins
over the chilled and silent ground
we fell in love with so long ago,
singing the green hills homeward
under that shovel-shouldered sun.

We look grim into each other's eyes.
No talk is needed to believe the bleeding
will be ours all too soon. Needled dust
that settled itself in naive lungs, cuts
with each forced breath, yet the bleeding
is not stemmed. Quick, black tongues
lick from windows, floors below pancaking
slabs, and the street sits slumped
beside its beer, locked on the game.

In our rush of voices, the stream curses
the murmur of the pines. In our names,
what we begged for never to be done,
is done with no shame. And the day
drags its blindered self to toil. The night
trades whiskey pete for oil, while down slope,
muffled death birds with blazing eyes
canvass the holy crags to kill dissent
before the angry innocent arise.

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» RE: Waiting For The Signal Posted by: rockpicker
» RE: Waiting For The Signal Posted by: truettspeak
Too many pessimists
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Dec 8, 2005 12:50 PM   
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The discourse following this article is very discouraging. Why do most people take the attitude that nothing can be done. Where is the American spirit? "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul." First, we have to recognize who our enemy is. Easy, follow the money trail. Who is benefitting from tax cuts, from the dismantling of the NewDeal, the crushing of labor unions, plundering our natural resources and the exportationof jobs? It is the elite corporate establishment that also owns both political parties. The hippies once brought this establishment to its knees and it can be done again. There is a way for the voters to to take control of both parties. Click on Cheer up

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» RE: Too many pessimists Posted by: tcx2
» RE: Too many pessimists Posted by: Lincoln fan
US Govt : Saving Democracy
Posted by: JonathanFHill on Dec 8, 2005 3:07 PM   
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Apparently they are saving it for later.

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they will never lose another important election
Posted by: rockpicker on Dec 8, 2005 3:29 PM   
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"...whether 'tis nobler in the mind
to suffer the slings and arrows
of outrageous official conduct,
or to take arms against the legions
of inappropriately licensed robots,
and by opposing, regain some
semblance of besmirched honor..."

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Mr. Corn, you are annoying me.
Posted by: WhatNow? on Dec 8, 2005 7:40 PM   
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Where the hell did you get the idea that we are an empire? Because we have possibly exported the golden arches to just about every nation on the globe or just because we can drop a bomb on any place on earth?

You are an arrogant SOB to think the US is an empire. We have been and can be a great nation but now we are nothing more than a house of cards or a ponzi scheme. I like to think we are a country, a nation, or a democratic republic but for some reason I keep thinking we are nothing more than a cesspool of greed, incompetence, and ignorance.

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» RE: Um-m-m, yes we are an "empire" Posted by: fool-on-the-hill
Robber Baron Society Is Here Again
Posted by: doneman2000 on Dec 8, 2005 7:41 PM   
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the GOP loves it here again as the top 5% cheer again.
Frankly, it was apparent to me at the beginning of the first Bush term what the GOP was up too. Bring down tax rates on the very wealthy by reducing taxes the masses don't know much about i.e. capitol gains, estate, interest and dividends, yeah boy those are taxes that almost never touch the bulk of the population, but never doubt these were the taxes that were most on the GOP's mind. THe income tax rate had been lowered about as much as possible so it was inherent the taxes which hit the top 5% would have to be lowered significantly and they have been. In fact these are the lowest taxes paid by the rich in over 7 decades. It is apparent by the number of 20,000 sq. foot houses being constructed, with a conglomerate of pricey add-ons, that the Bush economy is working as it was meant too. For the masses it will be something like working your ass off just to put beans and taters on the table and hoping you or yours don't get sick and put the family on bankrupt street to pay the corporate whores that have been elevated by their choices to phuck the people in favor of the corporate hierarchy in which they have a stake. Oh well you elect Republicans and that's what you'll get. Keep electing them and you'll get more and more of it. I never knew we had so many masochists in this country.

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Black gold and the real thing
Posted by: bipolar_controller on Dec 8, 2005 9:46 PM   
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The bush admin and the corpoations that run the country are not only working to get there piece of the caspian pie, but to also instill thier values in the rest of the country. They want all of us to think the way that they think and to have the same unified religion across the board. We are easier to control that way. Going after oil is only the beging.

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Just Me
Posted by: Melvin on Dec 8, 2005 11:27 PM   
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A 'deflated' USA will have world wide repercussions. Without a strong USA economy the world will suffer. Globalisation itself is the enemy with more & more dollars in fewer hands. Bye bye America it was nice knowing you; but what the hell comes next?

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» RE: Just Me Posted by: fool-on-the-hill
» RE: Just Me Posted by: crusty
Clueless in Washington...
Posted by: Zemiti on Dec 9, 2005 2:29 AM   
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Some of us have stated over the years that the downfall of America will stem from narrow interests that drive capital hoarding with little sympathy, regard or empathy for the broader welfare of America's society. The cracks are self evident, and as we feared, the US will implode. The real threat is from within, nobody in their right mind can ever threaten the US's existance as it stands, not militarilly nor economically. Those who are dismantling all the good and goodwill that has come before can be found within the anals of power of the US itself. It is time for self re-examination, to look at developing a groundswell of quality leadership that pursues broader encompassing citizen agendas than narrow self serving ones. Otherwise, the disgraceful and ignonimous end is nigh...

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Scott
Posted by: Scott on Dec 10, 2005 11:43 AM   
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IF GM lays off 30,000 people, doesn't that translate into something like 100,000 others who then lose jobs due to cutbacks in their plants, and don't those add even more in an ever enlarging circle? And IF the corporations get to drop their pension plans now, totally, plus not having to fund them, what will that to the retireing folks, and does not that create down turn too? Just what does GWB want, a nation full of unemployed folks? IT sure looks like to me that by the time HE leaves office that will be what we will be.......... Here in SC we are hitting 7.0% in unemployment are not others also beginning to grow upwards, so where does GWB's 5.0% come from???

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