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Moving in Uncharted Territory

By James Howard Kunstler, Kunstler.com. Posted December 10, 2005.


When people of any political persuasion cry for America to pull out of Iraq they should be ready to understand that things won't be "back to normal."

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When people of any political persuasion cry for America to pull out of Iraq, what do they suppose will be the result? That America will go back to being the same nation of easy-motoring, McMansion-buying consumpto-trons we were in 1999? Things have changed.

The world oil markets have changed. Their stability through the 1990s was a transient phenomenon, and a circumstance which, unfortunately, put us to sleep. During that time, OPEC, led by Saudi Arabia, was the world's "swing producer" -- the oil producer with spare capacity that could always open the valves and pump more. And they did, even cheating on their own official quotas, which only had the effect of flooding the market with "product" and driving down the prices -- so by the end of the last century oil had sunk to $10 a barrel.

That was great for America in the short term. It reinforced the widespread illusion that the oil disruptions of the 1970s were a shuck and jive. We ramped up all our car-dependent behavior, built more malls and "lifestyle centers," carved more housing subdivisions in the farthest-out asteroid belts of the metroplexes, bought cars the size of tactical military vehicles, and acted as if this was a way of life with a future.

Many things have changed. One is that a potent segment of the Islamic world declared war on the west (jihad). Another is that OPEC, led by Saudi Arabia, has apparently lost its spare capacity, and therefore its role as the world's swing producer of oil. Another is that the North Sea and Alaskan oil fields have passed their production peaks and are depleting at phenomenal rates -- in the case of Great Britain's fields, up to 50 percent a year -- because they were drilled so efficiently with the latest technology. Yet another is that rising ocean temperatures have led to several years of massive hurricanes wreaking havoc among the oil and gas platforms of the US Gulf Coast. Still another is the industrial turbo-expansion of China and India, taking advantage of their ultra cheap labor to become the world's factories and back-offices, while jacking up their oil consumption.

Oil trade has now become a dead heat race between supply and demand, with demand looking like the stronger horse coming into the home stretch. As it overtakes supply, even more strange changes will unfold on the world scene. These are likely to take the form of fierce geopolitical struggles to gain favor in or control those regions that still have a lot of oil, foremost the Middle East, with Iraq located at dead center of it.

There is really only one condition that will allow us to pull out of Iraq. That is if we make an enormous collective effort to change our behavior here in North America; if we break free from an economy pegged to suburban sprawl, reform the way we do agriculture and retail trade, make substantial investments in public transit and railroads in particular, and practice fiscal restraint at every scale, including an end to the reckless creation of mortgages. Unless we face these facts and the tasks associated with them, then we will find ourselves at the center of that geopolitical struggle.

Right now, nobody from any political stance is talking about these facts and these tasks. Those in the anti-war movement are by-and-large people who enjoy the same suburban "entitlements" as the war hawks. The anti-war leadership is even worse than the pro-war leadership, because the war hawks don't even pretend to be interested in reforming the way we live -- they've declared it "non-negotiable."

If the anti-war movement has a different idea, they sure haven't expressed it. If the Democratic Party were to take the lead in the anti-war movement, they would have to start negotiations for changing the way we live in this country. To evade the responsibility for this would simply be cowardice. Leading sometimes means taking public opinion into territory it hasn't been to before.

We're now entering that territory, by the way. Stealthily over the past week, the price of natural gas has crept above $14 a unit (one million BTUs). Half the houses in America are heated with the stuff. 90 percent of America's farm fertilizers are made out of it. Above $14 really is uncharted territory.

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Right but Wrong
Posted by: Riverside on Dec 10, 2005 12:44 AM   
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Well there is no denying the rising energy crisis and the potential for global aggression to garner the last drops, but we have a leadership that has denied that the control of petroleum resources was a motive, actually the motive, for being in Iraq. We have a leadership that is doing absolutely nothing to address our energy crisis and the related impacts. We have a leadership that is so consumed with greed and obeisance to corporate power that we the people, like our brave troops, are simply cannon fodder.

Perhaps the most horrible and immoral aspect of all of this is the move by the White House to wrap all of this up with a heavy coating of religion. The fact that there are aggressive religious extremist willing to play along simply confounds and confuses the issues and we the people.

Bottom line, in the name of greed and lust for power, good people, honest people, caring people are being duped, and led down a path that will leave most of us in a deep pit of poverty and despair.

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» * Posted by: decembrist
» RE: ight but Wrong Posted by: LMNOP
» RE: ight but Wrong Posted by: LMNOP
CHANGE, HOW, WHY, WHEN, your ideas welcome !
Posted by: TheBuffaloPartycom on Dec 10, 2005 3:03 AM   
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Oil, Money, Greed, Politics Not Working

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Your Ideas Welcome ! and open 2 All

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Deep Sleep
Posted by: Sparks56 on Dec 10, 2005 4:54 AM   
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Excellent post.
At the time, I thought the events of 9/11 would awaken America from its deep sleep. It woke us up, but we weren't looking at the light of day.
I am convinced that the majority of this country is never going to see the reality of the results of the way we live. The current cabal in Washington has done all it can to reinforce the delusion that we can go on forever consuming, consuming, consuming. Indeed, they have done all they could to wrap god, morality, and general all round righteousness around the "American way of life".
We will be out of Iraq, probably by the 2006 elections. The housing mortgage bubble will burst when the Chinese stop propping up the dollar. Gasoline will be $5 a gallon,(I think, by the end of the decade.) Petro-agriculture will collapse. Exurbia will be a ghost town.
America will be fully awake, then. They won't like what they see, and they will have no one to blame but themselves

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» RE: Deep Sleep Posted by: decembrist
agriculture
Posted by: crusty on Dec 10, 2005 5:37 AM   
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90 percent of America's farm fertilizers are made out of it.
This is true, but like with everything else there are alternatives and if the need arises farmers will switch. Look how we went from natural soil amendments to chemical practically overnight. If properly managed sustainable agriculture can approach conventional for yield. It will cost more to produce and many will not be able to achieve those yields due to poor soil quality, but it can be done. It seems like many are unaware that as a species we are very able to adapt, and if this grim scenario comes to pass, I think that the alternatives will be so apparent and be implemented and fast. After all there are already people who live with solar power, burn bio diesel etc. The alternatives are here and people are taking advantage, just wait till it gets really chic... its coming. Thats just me, anyone else?

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Too much of a mess
Posted by: bookwoman on Dec 10, 2005 7:44 AM   
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Things will not be back to "normal" whatever that is for a long long time. I remember one voter last year saying he was going to vote for Bush because "he made this mess we are in, and he should be the one forced to fix things". We do have a mess. We have an economy that has been so turned over to Global interests that people are still losing their jobs all over the country. The economy is said to be improving, but I'm not sure this improvement has "trickled down" much below the $500,00 per year income level. Corporations especially those involved with oil have been allowed to become even more arrogant than they were before 2000. The people at General Motors and Ford are so dense that the great American auto industry may be on it last legs, and everyone will be buying foreign cars.

Our education system is a mess as is our health system, and our Congress spends weeks figuring out how to cut the budget in order to rebuild the lower Mississippi and then spends more weeks passing tax breaks for the wealthy which completely cancels the previous reductions. - duh. Did they think we weren't looking. They did throw in a pittance for middle class tax payers who have a few investments, but I fill that description and having those tax breaks isn't going to have much of an effect on my taxes. However, if I was Mrs. Gotrocks with most of her disposable income going into investments, it will surely make a difference. The sad part is that this Congress which is backed by supposed Christians (lots of questions in my mind which Bible they are reading) has completely turned its back on the poor. I guess that line from the Bible which tells us that the poor will always be with us has made them want to support this idea and make sure that no one has the opportunity to accomplish enough to slide out of poverty.

So, before I close, let me introduce myself in case you think I am a Bush crazed liberal Republican. No, I am a Bush crazed moderate to conservative Republican. Kind of makes you think, doesn't it?

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» RE: Too much of a mess Posted by: tcx2
Now or Later - Just count the bodies
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Dec 10, 2005 8:26 AM   
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Things have changed, you can't go back in time but you can effect the future. Whether we leave Iraq tonight or ten years from now the end result will be the same Iraqi Civil War. The only difference will the the number of American and Iraqi Dead and Wounded. When George Bush mentions God he must be referring to Mars, the Roman God of War.

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There's Nothing Else Out There!
Posted by: Spyder on Dec 10, 2005 8:36 AM   
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The only reason the Clinton years were so economically successful was the timing of the computer boom. It went bust and it's over. There is nothing else out there on the horizon to bail us out of more stupid economic behavior. We should have waked up back in the Eighties when mergers and downsizing began the rage of disenfranchisement of the middle class. We cannot slowly choke the life out of the golden goose and survive economically as a nation. We must change our behavior. We must tell the far-left and far-right wing minorities to sit down and shut up! We desperately need middle class unity. The reason Bush, Rove, and those other greedy fascists are so much worse than Clinton's out of control tallawhacker is that they seek to support the big-money corporate interests in the short term, no matter what far-reaching disasters are the result of their short-term greed. We went to war for oil, and I have been certain of that fact since the first time the war idea escaped Bush's feeble brain. When GM and Ford declare bankruptcy, all I'll say is, well boo-hoo. They should have thought of that all those years they put gargantuan SUV's on forest trails in TV ads while they fought vehemently to keep the SUV loophole in the EPA rules. Here is what we must do, in order: (1) Get our interfering oil-greedy butts out of Iraq. (2) Elect every Democrat possible to Congress in '06. (3) Start to push Congress and the Democrats in the right direction. (4) Run Gore & Edwards in '08 because they can win. (5) Begin to fight back against the ton of corporate-sponsored legislation that has all but destroyed America!

http://e-tabitha.com/Horizon.htm

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If we don't change, count on others trying to change us.
Posted by: Sojourner on Dec 10, 2005 10:13 AM   
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The message of 9/11 should have been: Americans just don't get it! The Third World now can fight back. And for all the arms industry propaganda we get from Washington, DC, look at Vietnam and Iraq and France. The future we give to our children is rising domestic violence that thermo-nuclear weapons cannot touch.

The opposition to the United Nations (as seen in our current idiot Representative) acknowledges that we do not intend to change without a fight. We're looking for a fight, because, as cowards we know it won't really get vicious until most of us now alive are long dead. The cowards are always the ones who start a fight when they know they won't have to finish it.

Living without a future takes its toll. It's called 'corruption.' Look around you and you cannot miss it. No wonder Congress passes laws and budgets as if there is no tomorrow. That's not conservatism. It's veniality.

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history marches on
Posted by: liberalibrarian on Dec 10, 2005 10:38 AM   
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Well, duh (referring to the author's title and article). I think that is what many of us know and why we feel so frustrated. All the Iraq invasion is doing is fracturing relations we had with Europe and the rest of the globe, not to mention making the Middle East much more volatile. Oh, and the billions (hundreds of billions) of dollars we're spending could already have made huge inroads in technology we will need to move past petroleum. Each week that wa--occupation continues is another one lost to better alternatives. Money and lives down the drain. Not sure what the author's point really was.

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The Piper Must Be Paid
Posted by: worksg on Dec 10, 2005 12:27 PM   
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Oil is getting more scarce, and now or later we will have to change our ways and reduce our dependence on it. It might as well be now, before our dependence grows larger and our abilities to make the change grow smaller. And leaving Iraq gives us a chance to find our way back to the moral high ground where we would like to believe we once resided.

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What Is Kunstler's Agenda??
Posted by: decembrist on Dec 10, 2005 4:12 PM   
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What exactly is Kunstler's agenda? Is he trying to encourage the anti-war movement? Or is he just circuitously pro-war?

He must realize that the occupation of Iraq can only result in our continuing dependence on oil, and the prolonging of our belief that we can still be a nation "of easy-motoring, McMansion-buying consumpto-trons." In the meantime, we march faster and faster towards a premanent oil crisis.

So, according to Kunstler, as supply is overcome by demand, the world will experience "fierce geopolitical struggles to gain favor in or control those regions that still have a lot of oil, foremost the Middle East, with Iraq located at dead center of it." Haven't we invaded & occupied Iraq? And haven't we imposed economic policies that open Iraq and its oil up to foreign investment (specifically US)? Is this not "gaining favor in or control?" What is Kunstler talking about? We are already in the center of that geopolitical struggle, because our gov't chose to prolong our dependence on oil rather than ease ourselves off of it.

In the meantime, the gov't that has taken us on a crusade for Iraq's oil hasn't done anything to steer the nation away from oil dependence. Instead, Bush and company give the gift of windfall to the oil giants, and seek to squeeze out the tiny drops of oil left in the SW and Alaska. The pro-war leadership is set on tying us to oil as long as they possibly can, whether by war or domestic neglect.

The only people I know who believe we need to change our lifestyle are people who are anti-war, and these are the only people I know who have actually changed their lifestyle. Besides Kuntler, I have never read of a pro-war writer urging less oil dependency, or, as his writing shows, a writer that supports war for oil until we can kick our oil dependency.

This discussion hasn't even mentioned the enemies we've made in the Arab world since invading Iraq, enemies who merely hated us before, but now are willing to pack a car full of explosives. Also unmentioned is the sheer immoral act of invading a country, unprovoked, resulting in the deaths of unknown thousands and thousands of innocent people.

Continuing the occupation of Iraq just because we haven't convinced Bush to give up oil is a cowardly way to face the future. Besides being cowardly, our present course will only lead to more problems than it can solve.

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Agriculture: the importance of nitrogen
Posted by: LRayn on Dec 10, 2005 6:28 PM   
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Peak oil and the North American natural gas peak will eventually lead to less food. Sustainable techniques cannot make up for the use of fossil fuels (primarily natural gas) to make nitrogen fertilizer.

Just to make clear: I am a permaculture practitioner and a big supporter of locally grown food. I am not trashing organic agriculture, merely pointing out its limits.

Approximately 40% of the people on the planet today are alive because of artificial nitrogen fertilizer. Nitrogen is especially important for making protein.

As natural gas becomes ever more expensive and scarce, food prices will rise beyond the affordability of many, forcing a drop in demand, i.e. fewer people, through war, disease, and (hopefully) contraception. The U.S. will not suffer too badly -- we have lots of wiggle room; we can reduce our food exports and eat less protein (especially meat) and still remain healthy. It is people in poorer countries who will suffer the most and experience the greatest die off of population in the century ahead.

In addition, human activities have doubled the nitrogen fixation rate in the biosphere, causing ecologicla harm. From an ecological viewpoint, it does not matter if that nitrogen is organic or comes from fossil fuels. Sustainability requires lower global nitrogen throughput and ultimately, fewer people.

The book "Enriching the Earth: Fritz Haber, Carl Bosch, and the Transformation of World Food Production" (MIT Press) provides the details for those who want them

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War and Oil
Posted by: Maryanne on Dec 10, 2005 8:05 PM   
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Did anyone to stop to think that our adventure in Iraq is WASTING already scarce oil, as well as other natural resources.

Husband says that if all we wanted was oil, we could have purchased it from Iraq far cheaper than it is costing for this war. So while this war is for oil, there is also something behind this- power and world domination.

And when we leave Iraq- which will happen sooner or later- having antagonized the Middle East by this adventure, will we be cut off from the very oil we could have bought in the first place? (rhetorical question)

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» RE: War and Oil Posted by: Maryanne
Always uncharted
Posted by: wert on Dec 10, 2005 8:19 PM   
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We will always be moving into uncharted territory and M. Kunstler has it just right. I feel less pessimistic about the eventual consequences. I do agree we are a grossly gluttonous society, most of us with no clue (or care) about what we are doing to this country and the rest of the world. Gluttony and abysmal leadership aside, I feel we can and must break away from fossil fuels. Ever hear any leader talk seriously about nuclear fusion? Magnetic levitation trains? Renewable energy? Sustainable resource use? These are all things within our reach. However, our leaders DO NOT lead on such things, they do what they think will get them re-elected. We must demand responsible leadership, visionary leadership that sees the uncharted territory as the answer, not something we should fear. Utopian you say? The crash of the oil/fossil fuel based economy is approaching. When exurbia and the accoutrements of this and like societies start becoming untenable, and IF an authentic visionary appears, who knows what type of revolution awaits us. We've seen what reactionaries can and will do. Can the antithesis be far off?

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It also takes leadership
Posted by: D. Julian Terry on Dec 10, 2005 8:49 PM   
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I agree that we as a people must address our lifestyle issues relating to consumption and energy in particular. I don't think it is helpful to generalize and say that the anti-war crowd is as much into conspicuous consumption as the pro-war crowd. My friends and I try to buy organically and lower our thermostats and buy more feul efficient cars. But we also vote for candidates who are more likely to use the enormous power of government to encourage alternative feuls, mass transit, more fuel efficient cars, protection of the ecosystem, serious regulation of polluters, and the like. We as individuals can do our part but, bold, responsible political leadership is also needed. Whether we get the chance to vote for such candidates in our current two party, winner-take-all system is another issue.

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TIA REHASH
Posted by: Jeffersonista on Dec 11, 2005 10:00 AM   
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There is no alternative - Rehashed thatcher/reagonomics.
You are expected to swallow that untill the last drop of oil is burned, and then you will be forced to start thinking.

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What are you all thinking
Posted by: mistery509 on Dec 11, 2005 2:24 PM   
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I happened to watch a group of mothers who lost their sons in Iraq being interviewed on a promanant TV station and I was so disappointed I could not watch it and had to turn it off.

I am a Canadian mother with a young son and if it were my son out there, I would be protesting beside Cindy Sheehan and condeming the war which is being fought for a lie and for greed.

Instead, all but 2 of the Moms were supporting Bush and his good job he is doing and how he is saving the Iragy people. Harrah, harrah. He has brain washed most of the people in US. He and his side kicks are out there killing their sons and the Mothers are on his side.

I was feeling sorry for the Mothers but now I have to really think twice. AMERICAN MOTHERS YOU ARE SO BLIND

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» RE: What are you all thinking Posted by: bonapartist
No bells to believe
Posted by: rockpicker on Dec 11, 2005 3:53 PM   
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Waiting For The Signal

These pages that bring us together
are the fire in the cave above the stream,
a dream we move in and out of, faceless,
expendable, waiting for a burst of wings
to spill our pooled bones like coins
over the chilled and silent ground
we fell in love with so long ago,
singing the green hills homeward
under that shovel-shouldered sun.

We look grim into each other's eyes.
No talk is needed to believe the bleeding
will be ours all too soon. Needled dust
that settled itself in naive lungs, cuts
with each forced breath, yet the bleeding
is not stemmed. Quick, black tongues
lick from windows, floors below pancaking
slabs, and the street slumps
beside its beer, locked on the game.

In our rush of voices, the stream curses
the murmur of the pines. In our names,
what we begged for never to be done,
is done with no shame. And the day
drags its blindered self to toil. The night
trades whiskey pete for oil, while down slope,
muffled death birds with blazing eyes
ascend the holy crags to kill dissent
before the waking innocent arise.

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