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Filling in for God

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted December 5, 2005.


Certain politicians should do a lot more listening to the Lord, and a lot less talking for Him.
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The Lord Impersonator is back again. This fella reappears every couple of years and causes no end of trouble. The jokester goes around persuading feeble-minded persons he is the Lord Almighty and that they are to do or say some perfectly idiotic thing under his instructions.

One of the worst cases we've had in Texas was the time the Lord Impersonator convinced 20 people in Floydada to git nekkid, get into a GTO and drive to Vinton, La., where they ran into a tree. Seein' 20 nekkid people, including five children, come out of a GTO startled the Vinton cops. The nekkid citizens all said God told them to do it.

Quite a few people have been mishearing the Lord lately. The Rev. Pat Robertson thinks the Lord told the people of Dover, Pa., they shouldn't ask for His help anymore because they elected a school board Robertson doesn't like. And Rep. Richard Baker of Louisiana said right after Hurricane Katrina that "we finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans. We couldn't do it, but God did it."

I kind of doubt Katrina was designed by the Lord as a form of urban renewal. I think it's a big mistake for us to go around putting our own puny interpretations on stuff that happens and then claiming the Lord meant thus-and-such by it. It is my humble opinion that some folks should do a lot more listening to God and a lot less talking for Him.

In that category, I put a whole passel of politicians -- including that God-fearing professional patriot Rep. "Duke" Cunningham of San Diego. Cunningham resigned his office after pleading guilty to having accepted $2.4 million in bribes from defense contractors. "Duke's" big cause in Congress was to get a constitutional amendment to ban flag-burning. Which do you think is more unpatriotic: burning a flag to indicate desperate dissent against American policy or getting elected to Congress and selling out for a Rolls Royce and some antique commodes?

Rep. Tom DeLay, who is under indictment in Texas, is another fine parser of the Lord's intent. According to Mother Jones magazine, DeLay appeared at a prayer breakfast just after the tsunami that killed 240,000 people. "DeLay read a passage from Matthew about a nonbeliever: '... a fool who built his house on sand: the rain fell, the floods came, and the winds blew and buffeted the house, and it collapsed and was completely ruined.' Then, without comment, he righteously sat down."

Some Christians seem to me inclined to lose track of love, compassion and mercy. I don't think I have any special brief to go around judging them, but when the stink of hypocrisy becomes so foul in the nostrils it makes you start to puke it becomes necessary to point out there is one more good reason to observe the separation of church and state: If God keeps hanging out with politicians, it's gonna hurt his reputation.

I've always hoped that people like Tom DeLay and Duke Cunningham (and Reps. Bob Ney, Richard Pombo, Dana Rohrabacher, John Doolittle and William J. Jefferson (a D) and Sens. Bill Frist and Conrad Burns) were really stonewall cynics at heart, secretly sneering at the rubes who buy into their holier-than-thou posturing. But I'm afraid they're not.

I'm afraid one actually has to allow for the denial and self-delusion that make it possible for people to be both self-righteous and sleazy at the same time. We are all capable of fooling ourselves in a grand variety of ways.

Another reason why religion and policy make such a bad mix is that religion brings the dread element of certitude into what needs to be a constant process of questioning. In the New Yorker, Seymour Hersh quotes a former Defense Department official who served in Bush's first term: "The president is more determined than ever to stay the course. He doesn't feel any pain. Bush is a believer in the adage, 'People may suffer and die, but the Church advances.'"

Look, certitude is the enemy of clear thinking. "Never be absolutely sure" is a useful motto, and sailing through our current policies in Iraq without a shadow of a doubt is both foolish and dangerous. I would be far more reassured if I thought the president were second-guessing every move we make than I am to find out he hasn't a shadow of a doubt. For one thing, it shuts him off from considering alternatives, and boy do we need some alternatives.

So here we sit, watching a great, stinking skein of corruption being fished to the surface of Washington, while the town is simultaneously filled with a great babble about God, prayer and morality. Corruption trails head off in all directions -- lobbyists, wives, jobs, perverting intelligence, outing agents for petty revenge -- all this and a Prayer Breakfast every day.

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Molly Ivins writes about politics, Texas and other bizarre happenings.

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Right on Molly - Delay calls church people whackos
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Dec 5, 2005 1:45 AM   
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Power perverts the righteous true believers some where along the way they become the self-righteous and uncaring. Republican goal in an election is to find some perverted far right fear and use it to get believers out to vote. Fear crazy people cannot think for themselves. People like Rove and DeLay count on the self-righteous whackos coming out to vote over their best interests. How cynical can you get? We The People will either have the government setup by the constitution or we are going to have one the God has mandated according to the republican leadership of this country. The time we have to do this is very short. If we cannot take back part of the congress, it will be too late and everyone who loves freedom might as well move to Canada.

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Bible-thumping morons
Posted by: Moonray on Dec 5, 2005 4:06 AM   
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If there is any divine justice, the hottest rings of hell are reserved for people such as Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Tom DeLay, G.W. Bush and all the others who use religion to justify their mean-spirited political perversions.

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long live the bible belt booboisie
Posted by: menckenman on Dec 5, 2005 4:57 AM   
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Intellectual thought has not kept pace with science or technological advancement in the south (as was once hoped) - we're still back in the days before Darwin and the Constitution is founded on Christianity.

Now and then a bit of Revelations peaks out inadvertently through the medium of DeLay, who is surely channeling the Old Testament, and those who read their Bible know what he's talking about. The Bible is about a lot more than Jesus to these folks. Katrina and global warming are part of the grand plan, and they're all heading toward Resurrection Day, and you're not. You secular humanists will end up in hell with Darwin and Tom Paine.

Love hurts.

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The darkness at the end of the tunnel.
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Dec 5, 2005 5:19 AM   
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Unfortunately there has always been a class of people who have played on the fears of people. Until lately, it has been the fear of natural phenomena, earthquakes, volcanoes, storms, drought and death. Spiritual leaders duped people into believing that they could protect the people from these disasters. When the disaters came anyway the priests didn't take the blame, they said that the people didn't sacrifice enough or have enough faith. Give them more power and wealth and things will be better. Most peole feel overwhelmed by the forces that control their lives. Today we fear natural disasters, financial disasters, and wars. Po;itical leaders also dupe people into believing that they can save them. Religious leaders and politicians both promise a messiah who will save them from their fears. As the atheist says,"God help us when they join forces".

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Fear Reverses all intelligent processes! ...Leland Powers
Posted by: neilemac on Dec 5, 2005 6:08 AM   
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This started out as a comment to your piece Molly but it grew into a full-blown post in my blog. Fear Reverses all intelligent processes! ...Leland Powers Click it to find 'god.'
namasté neil E mac

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agitator church and state
Posted by: eileenflmng on Dec 5, 2005 6:15 AM   
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When politicians get in bed with religion; everyone gets screwed and not in a good way.

"Thomas Jefferson agreed with Tolstoy that the Western Christian Church had supplanted the Sermon on the Mount/THE BEATITUDES with the Nicene Creed to create a system of beliefs that Jesus himself wouldn't have recognized, much less laid claim to." read more on WAWA blog 11/15/05
http://www.wearewideawake.org

Imagine what Jefferson would say today...

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misquote
Posted by: repo on Dec 5, 2005 6:48 AM   
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I have seen this character-assassinating quote from Rep. Baker all over the place since Katrina thanks to the sensationalistic sense of journalists who put it in the Wall Street Journal. He was not a cold-hearted bastard who said that God cleaned up public housing in New Orleans by washing away all the poor people, rather he has worked hard to get equal housing for many years in Louisiana. He says what he actually told his staffer was "We have been trying for decades to clean up New Orleans public housing to provide decent housing for residents, and now it looks like God is finally making us do it." People are so quick to judge for the wrong thing when they do not even know a fraction of the whole story.

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Houses Built on Sand
Posted by: the islander on Dec 5, 2005 7:30 AM   
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In the end it is the so-called Christian Constructionists who are building their house on sand. It is against the laws of life -- against creativity, against diversity. It cannot stand.

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Memory loss
Posted by: kfl on Dec 5, 2005 7:32 AM   
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I howled when i read this in yesterday's paper. Must be i woke up the crusading ghosts. They roared into my living room on black steeds, wielding swords dripping with avenging blood. Before and behind them was a gruesome lineage of empty skeletons. In their hands were books they had personally annointed. The Word was their word. The Law was their law. The gold was their gold. And, their promises were as empty as their black hearts.

The swords are unsheathed once more, the carnage as bereft; our memories as short.

karen

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Reformed Christian
Posted by: navistic50 on Dec 5, 2005 8:20 AM   
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Being raised in the catholic church and schools system, I can say with certainy that religion does more harm then good. It took me 35 years to compelety break the "brainwashing" and "conditioning" to get over the fear of the "Lord" long enough to look at the world with my head clear and my vision focused on something better than religion to guide me. Since that time of giving up my "faith" I have become a more humane and decent person. I view religion as one of the most unscrupulous and decidely devious professions in the world. Too many centuries of war, ingrained fears of judgement by the Higher Power sending you to hell and the various and nauseous brands of religion so determined to rule the world at any cost. Thanks Molly, for the clarity, we need it in this day and age.

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And alternatively...
Posted by: bluegull on Dec 5, 2005 9:52 AM   
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If God starts talking to you, check his ID.

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Molly Ivans is a national treasure!
Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Dec 5, 2005 9:52 AM   
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A passage in the Talmud comes to mind;

"Absolute certainty is poison to the soul."

and Betrand Russell once remarked

"The problem with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, while the wise are full of doubt."

The sort of fundy morons who infest the government practice a faith that's a lot like carbon dioxide; it is tasteless, colorless, odorless (though its effects truly seem to stink), and ultimately suffocating; it is an impediment to truth, good will, creativity and human progress.

Another passage from the Talmud (commenting on Deut. 16: 20) says "The Lord loves justice more than worship (sacrifice)." That is the kind of divine entity I could belive in and even love; unfortunately given the current state of the world and the actions of "people of faith" I must conclude that this divine entity is wholly impotent or doesn't really exist at all.

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I know why things are this way
Posted by: fixitt on Dec 5, 2005 10:52 AM   
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Please do not judge, and read carefully to find the Light.

What I have to say isn't popular with 'believers', but from my research of ancient texts, I tend to think 'The Church' saw that "Jesus"' teachings left them without power over men, so they made some of the NT up from many texts of the apostles and others. Ymmanuel is the true name of "Jesus", and we have been duped and controlled by those of the clergy (of diverse faiths) since the year 300. Only two or three were to gather together, not 30,000 souls in a 'church', amassing unthinkable wealth and power for the priests/pastors to corrupt their land, and in some cases, literally rape the innocents of their flock.

Look at 1Timothy chapter 4: "...forbidding [gays?] to marry..." "Conscience seared with a hot iron..." The real key words here are DOCTRINE OF DEVILS - isn't that a description of today's situation? The supression of spiritual meats, like natural healing Cannabis, Iboga, Salvia Divinorium, Ayahuasca (sp?) or Opium, herbs that if used moderately in their natural state are not terribly addictive, but open the human spirit to communicate with the Universal Spirit who only wishes that we love each other unselfishly - are demonized, and policies that disrupt the law of our land, the Constitution, invited.

I am a christian minister who has discovered this hidden and very narrow spiritual path, after years of compassionate conservatism have confused and blinded me with its contradictions. If you can find some, start taking (in moderation with thanksgiving, of course) White Powder of Gold (gold tried in the fire) and Cannabis (plant of renown, Rev. 20) while you pray/meditate - you will find the true nature and power of God, and IT is not lying, or violent, or greedy (nor male or female).

I have not lost my way, I have found it, so again, do not judge - and herein is wisdom.

Religion has no good place in our government, just as government has no good place in our religion. Separate them with all haste, and America the Beautiful will be that great land again.

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more and more humanist
Posted by: liberalibrarian on Dec 5, 2005 1:04 PM   
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I haven't read so much about "God" in the public arena in all my life. The more I hear about the fundies and religious wackos that seem to predominate in our country the more secular humanist I get. I just hope that it is having the same effect on other people--especially our youth, who are going to have a very hard time reversing the damage these people are doing.
Yes--for many years I've joined the ranks of the disenchanted--the Post-Christians. And I'm much happier for it.
We need to reconstruct that Jeffersonian firewall between Church and State before it's too late and we find ourselves in a complete theocracy.

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gawd ahmighty...
Posted by: gltirebiter on Dec 5, 2005 3:52 PM   
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THANK YOU, mollie...
but if you think tejas is bad, come on up to alaska for a full, heapin' bowlful of chrisjun redneck horseshit.
keep up the good work and gawdblessya...

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toheal
Posted by: kclaf on Dec 5, 2005 3:54 PM   
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It is becoming a daily event......watching the 'DC Dance'...sort of a bit of the Twist, the Pony and the Chicken....with many combinations in play at the same time. It does keep one wondering how long before there is an awareness of what is happenng......keeping people off balance and fear filled is the avenue to their disempowerment and the empowerment goes to 'those in authority'. It certainly seems to be working doesn't it.

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gonnuts
Posted by: Gonnuts on Dec 5, 2005 4:24 PM   
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"There is more to Heaven and Earth than you and I shall ever know ..." indeed.
I've lived long enough to curse whatever Gods there may or not be and prayed to them enough with the hope they did exist. I've had no explanation for experiences that go way beyond coincidence or reason. Neither did Shakespeare.
Religion, isn't so bad if you can find a sect that isn't intrusive. Politics if we are to have any rule of law is necessary, again as long as it's not intrusive. Start mixing the two and any form of moderation is lost.

One doesn't have to follow any religion or believe in any God to be a good person. Common sense is the well in which in both religion and law drink. Yet one must follow the law to the extent that that law is just to be a good citizen.

Of course what we have now is a bunch of con-men in both the church and state that are turning common sense up-side down.

My only hope, and I'm not holding much of it, is that I live long enough to see some justice done with as little damage as possible.

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If there is a God!
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Dec 5, 2005 5:48 PM   
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If there is a God who is as loving and forgiving as most Christian Ministries claim, then why do we need these mere mortals who call themselves Christian Ministers to speak to God. Is God deaf? Is God blind? With all his/her powers, why does God always need more money?

The Pharisees and money changers were thrown out of the temple before, it is time to do it again.

God Please Bless America and save us from these empty suits posing as religeous leaders.

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Fundamentalism = Fear of modernity
Posted by: meggars on Dec 5, 2005 10:16 PM   
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I was raised Texas Southern Babtist but "converted out" at 13. I was molested for years by an older male and prayed to Jesus every night for help -- first in stopping the abuse, eventually just for any kind of release, even death. I approached one of our "church ladies" in desperation, asking her how it could be that someone could pray with all her soul to Jesus but still have bad things happen to her. She seized the chance to tell me it must be because the person doing the praying was still sinning somehow, and that in particular women and girls were riddled with sin because of Eve. I finally came to my senses after that and said "this cannot be a god I will believe in." After decades of atheism, I found my way back to a useful spirituality, NOT Christian although I do absolutely believe in the teachings (though not the divinity) ofChrist. But the perversion of Christianity by those who use it to wield power has all but destroyed the church. In particular, Christianity has institutionalized the right/mandate to proselytize, to convert, and to judge others.

All of this is exacerbated by fundamentalism. I rely on Karen Armstrong for my understanding of fundamentalism as a fear of modernity. This is why it finds a stronghold in the American South -- like other regions once defeated and exploited for generations, people will resist blame, that the wrongs they are suffering are from their own moral failure (an honorable resistance, in my opinion) and with it, they resist modernity. This is what has happened in all forms of fundamentalism, not just Christian -- terror of the modern world because the only room left for those who don't measure up is in a one-down position.

I believe the war between fundamentalism and modernity is the most serious problem facing the world today, and bridging this gap will require patience, absence of judgment, and continued efforts at inclusion. I say this even as I struggle with dislike, disrespect, judgment and at times hatred of those who are saying such terrible things about people like me. Ironically, in my endeavor listen, listen, listen, I honor the best teachings of Christ (but also Buddha, Mohammed, Ghandi, etc).

Thank you, Molly, for continuing to tell the truth AND model kindness. In my opinion, the worst legacy of the Reagan era is the permission it gave out culture to be mean and disrespectful.

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Big Bwana,The Religion Racket and Bent Tommy
Posted by: fuzzflash on Dec 6, 2005 12:29 AM   
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From the the time Cro Magnon, shifty bipedal hustlers have been frighening the living daylights out of their less hip peers in the name of Big Bwana. The spiritual pickpockets running the rackets retain power by scrambling the limbic systems of their dupes with the galvanising emotions of fear, guilt and shame. They generally program 'em young and ritually reinforce, so that independence of thought is nullified.

Mr. Delay's doublethink is astounding. He is in breach of several commandments of his putative faith, and of Caesar's law. Yet Tommy says that he is innocent and that his god is on his side. Stratospheric hypocricy, apparantly, comes with the territory.

With pickens this good, I can't imagine the racketeers will be troubled by any notions of common decency, let alone enlightenment, any time soon.

Thank you Molly, for your brillant essay.

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Good work Mollly, give it to 'em
Posted by: tomwhite on Dec 6, 2005 2:16 PM   
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I consider myself a religious man but I hate sharing the category with the likes of the wretches Molly excoriates in her current column. She's dead right: righteous bullheads and blabbermouths give religion a bad name. And Bush's blind faith act bids fair to wreck the country. But in the end I fault the superrich who put him in office, keep him in office, and fail to speak out against his idiocies. They are the s.o.b,'s who are taking us down the steep places. May they have severe stomach trouble at dinner tonight.

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Let's not forget...
Posted by: aonghus36 on Dec 6, 2005 6:48 PM   
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the new so-called Messiah...Rev.Sun Myeng Moon. It sounds like this new piece of chicanary is taking root through the love of money.

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Too bad Molly doesn't have the guts...
Posted by: thedude on Dec 7, 2005 7:41 AM   
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...to pronounce her own religious beliefs. It is so easy for nonbelievers and atheists to criticize and crucify Christians since they have no beliefs of their own. And while some people do have negative experiences in the church, there are so many more who have found comfort in prayer and have found support in their fellow Christians.
What I think is even more hypocritical than the examples Molly gives in her article are the elite Hollywood Liberals who swap wives, use drugs, have bastard children, have numerous abortions and who live the most unChristian lives and then go to award shows and "thank God" for their achievements. As if winning an emmy or a grammy exhonerates all their sins with a simple thank you.
Look, if you don't want to believe in God, fine. Don't believe. But don't sit in judgment of those who do. We are very fortunate in this country because we have the freedom to believe what we want and to worship how we want. Think you would have found that in Saddam's Iraq?
But people like Molly build these high thrones in their minds and sit in judgment of anyone who they believe to be inferior because those people choose to believe in a higher power. People like Molly lack any kind of spirituality and thus they are empty inside. And so she and her ilk fill that void with hatred and prejudice and conceit.
I for one have always found comfort in the Bible and in my talks with God. And you ask any veteran of a war and they will tell you that they survived combat thanks to the power and the protection of God.
And it is very hypocritical to use the actions and statements of only a few people to represent Christianity and its believers as a whole. Especially when the same can be done for the other side!

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Shame
Posted by: fleurdelamer on Dec 7, 2005 10:26 AM   
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Mollie, you should know that God is not male. Please do not spread the world's most damaging lie even in jest. As the creator and nurturer of life, "God" has much more in common with the female sex among species on this planet.

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Paranoid Pollyanna
Posted by: Linda on Dec 9, 2005 1:03 AM   
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This is your best column yet! Hope to see you on TV soon? Like on the Daily Show or Keith Olbermann's show, for ex?

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The Terrorists won in November 2004. Can we go home now?
Posted by: RoveBlowsDogs on Dec 9, 2005 7:45 PM   
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Ms. Ivins:

As always, it is a pleasure to read your well informed, well reasoned, insightful, and witty writing.

I am always amazed at just how much sanctimonious hypocracy the American public will accept, and continue to beg for more.

Logic and reason seem to have no impact on a huge chunk of the voting populace, nor do considerations having to do with the long term economic and social / political well being of the USA. And forget ethics. To all but a few politicians, ethics is some combination of plausible deniability and not getting caught.

And now, an "assault on Christmas" is actually being dignified with somthing other than derisive laughter.....

We who love logic, reason, and the Constitution are doing rhetorical battle with the likes of Limbaugh, Coulter, and O'Reilly. Lies are truth, trivia is important, ignore the casualties.

Perhaps it is time to fight manure with manure. I am not asking you to sully yourself with these tactics as I propose below. I just ask that you don't actively point out that we are full of bull. Yes, I know I'm stealing ideas from LBJ. Do with that as you will.

I do this not for glory or for conquest, and I feel my integrity being eroded. I do this for my country, and I realize that this makes me little better than them, if at all.

I would like to help spread the rumor that Karl Rove routinely enjoys fellating young dogs. Airdales. Puppies, too young to really consent. Of the same putative sex as he. I have no evidence to either confirm or deny this rumor. I'm simply passing it along, hoping that the same "values" voters who don't give a damn about the real and documented ethical atrocities committed by their boys and girls in the White House, let alone the stuff that's just plain illegal, or just plain lousy policy will get all worked up about this baseless rumor.

This is for the crowd that thought Ken Starr was doing a good thing. Maybe this is just the blatant idiocy to get them to question GWB and co. Maybe, just maybe, Rove Blows Dogs can spread enough to start impeachment proceedings.

Fellow readers, consider lending your voice to this rumor, for the good it might do. Thank you.

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