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Eating Meat, Mindfully

By Matthew L. Miller, AlterNet. Posted November 30, 2005.


It's not hypocrisy to eat meat while abhorring how animals are raised in this country; there is a better way to be a carnivore.

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Living in the Rocky Mountain West, I am used to breathtaking views. None takes my breath away as much as a 150,000-cow feedlot in southern Idaho. Even before I see it from the road, its stench overpowers me. Then I crest the hill and cattle in bleak pens sprawl to the horizon.

It is a depressing sight, and I feel horrified at a food system that can allow animals -- living beings -- to be raised in such a manner.

I see the products of this food system every time I visit the supermarket: rows of fatty, hormone-injected, often colorless meat -- straight from a factory, not a farm. I'll pass.

But I do eat meat.

This isn't hypocritical. I buy my meat from farmers and ranchers committed to raising animals in humane and healthful ways -- steaks from grass-fed cattle, roasted free-range chicken, elk chili, lamb chorizo, smoked duck -- and so celebrate the lands and the animals of my Idaho home.  

And I want at least part of the responsibility for getting meat to be strictly my own. Each fall I hunt and stock my freezer for the year with elk, deer and duck. For eating, nothing better connects me to the cycle of life and death.

I call this being a mindful meat eater.

Becoming a mindful meat eater means acknowledging that life feeds on life, that regardless of our diet, all of our food has costs. Even those who shun animal products cannot escape this, whether in the loss of wildlife habitat to grain fields, poisoning by pesticide use or animals killed for crop damage on organic farms.

Becoming a mindful meat eater also means getting to know farms that produce animals while being respectful of their nature. At a farm market I buy lamb, chicken and turkey from a farmer just down the road. Unlike industrial agriculture's huge feedlots, her farm is grassy pasture and a spacious barn. The chickens roam freely. These animals aren't pets, but she knows each one.

Even large farms and ranches can raise livestock mindfully. I know another rancher with free-range sheep and cattle on thousands of acres. His animals will never see a feedlot. Herders stay with the animals all day to ensure they don't damage wildlife habitat. The ranch also won't harm wolves, coyotes and mountain lions of the area -- a practice labeled "Predator Friendly."

By supporting these kinds of farms, and knowing them, I connect with the meat I eat in a better, saner way. The supermarket disconnects us, from chickens crammed into tiny, indoor cages, and from acre after acre of cattle packed into feedlots.   Invest some time in learning how your steaks and burgers are produced. Support labels that certify animals are raised in ways healthful to them and the land, and avoid factory farm products. Restore mindfulness to meat eating.

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Matthew L. Miller is the director of communications for The Nature Conservancy of Idaho. He wrote this for the Land Institute's Prairie Writers Circle in Salina, Kan.

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Never Mindful the Bollocks!
Posted by: Kneel on Nov 30, 2005 3:30 AM   
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Gawd. Always nice to be patronized: "This isn't hypocritical."

Why not let the reader come to her own conclusions on that one?

Key point that's missed here - it's not necessary to eat meat. You're killing these animals solely because you like the way they taste.

How "mindful" of you.

"I call this being a mindful meat eater." Aw, you've come up with a name for it. Well, how special. Let's go shoot a puppy.

I call it butchering creatures when you don't have to. How 'bout that?

Is there a way for me to mindfully eat some people? I mean, hey, what's Thanksgiving without a baby, crunchy little toes and all? It's tradition! Nothing like killing grandpa and feeding him to the kids to better connect us to the cycle of life and death.

As long as you like the way something tastes, what more justification do you need (especially if you hunt down grandpa yourself)? Oh, right, it has to done "mindfully" as well. (Thank you cow, for generously donating your life to my Happy Meal.)

And nice try on the environmentally-friendly bit. Maybe with buffalo or kangaroos on the open range, but not sheep and cattle. (Read Alice Outwater's short, excellent book WATER for a primer on that.) Then there's the fossil fuel consumption, anti-biotic use, etc.

Mindfully. Well, as long as that's the most important criterion, I guess we can do just about anything, can't we?

Wait! Wait! That's what's been missing! If we're upset by a murder or massacre, we shouldn't be - we should only be interested in whether the perpetrator(s) did it mindfully. ("I call this mindful murdering. This is not hypocritical.")

Somebody may be able to make a case for being carnivorous when we don't have to be, but this sure ain't it.

Still trying to figure out whether this is egoism, narcissism, elaborate rationalization, just plain self-indulgence...

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Posted by: demonspark on Nov 30, 2005 4:17 AM   
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I can honestly say I have never read an article on Alternet that has made me as furious as I am now.

I have always sung the praises of this website to all and sundry, no matter what their political persuasion as I felt that it was a source of intelligent and articulate analysis.

This is the first time I have been disgusted by a writer on Alternet. What an enormous pile of greedy, self centred, disgusting, corrupt and idiotic nonsense.

It goes to show how naiive I am.

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mindful meat-eating
Posted by: Jarnsaxa on Nov 30, 2005 4:19 AM   
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Somehow I had a feeling that the first comment would be from a sneering vegetarian :(

For the record, I eat meat, but do it in a similiar way as the author...except for the hunting part; it is simply not feasible for me to do that, nor is there much game at all here in the ciry.

What I do is only buy free-range beef, grain-fed hens, eggs from free ranging chickens, etc. Sure, this stuff is more expensive, but it's worth it to know that the animals aren't crammed onto a disgusting feedlot--having grown up on and around a nice family farm, I know how foul the feedlots down the road were.

Ideally, I'd like to move back out to the country where I could raise most of my own food.

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Come on!
Posted by: sixtiesqueen on Nov 30, 2005 4:27 AM   
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Come on people. So the author likes meat. Big deal. At least he's supporting local farmers. That's a helluva lot more humane than those factory farms.
Plus, what about the Natives? They hunt and eat meat, but they respect the earth & its environment. They understand the circle of life (to use a cliched term) and respect earth. They don't take more than they need.
So, let's be open-minded here, okay? Just because you disagree is no reason to get hysterical.

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Where will the land for a small family farm come from?
Posted by: funnyfarm12 on Nov 30, 2005 5:28 AM   
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With small farmers going down the tubes at an ever increasing rate and urban sprawl plus and an ever increasing population to feed, where do you think all this food is going to be produced for the next century or so?

Sure feed lots are ugly and smelly, but unless you have a better idea of how to get your food on a daily basis while paving the world over, get used to it.

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Petlove
Posted by: petlove on Nov 30, 2005 5:38 AM   
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Human beings are not carnivores. It is not necessary to eat any kind of animal flesh to be healthy. People eat it because they like it and because it's always been done, with little or no thought to the suffering of the animals. There is no justification for it unless there is no other source of food available, and people will starve without it.

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Mmmmm...crunchy baby toes.....
Posted by: phelander on Nov 30, 2005 6:15 AM   
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Yum.

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Posted by: savannahrose on Nov 30, 2005 6:21 AM   
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I support the meat-eater's appraisal of factory farming, of its so-called 'products' that are 'grown' for humans to eat as being nothing less than condoning and being complicit with institutionalized violence of the most horrific nature. I feel that he is elevated to a slightly higher level of compassion by choosing 'humanely grown' flesh, but if he would only put himself in the same position of the animal he kills, he would realize that that animal did not want to die or be eaten. There is absolutely no justfiable reason to eat animals in this culture, unless maybe it was a matter of one's own extreme survival, and I hope I'm never faced with such a choice. If this man has companion animals, would he consider killing one of them to eat? All the other animals he consumes are no different, and certainly not that different from human animals.

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Let keep using those non-renewable resources
Posted by: lb on Nov 30, 2005 6:40 AM   
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I think we should be mindful consumers. The pressure to produce more and more meat for consumption (not just here but in the developing world) is enormous and leads to use of chemicals, hormones, and genetic manipulation. What are we doing to our bodies and our planet? If it is ok to kill a cow, how about an elephant? Or a baby monkey to eat its brains? Or a whale? Are there no moral absolutes? Try reading Matthew Scully's book "Dominion".

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what up
Posted by: saywhat? on Nov 30, 2005 6:52 AM   
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while i support farm raised meat the bigger problem lies in the future when other cultures decide meat is the way to eat, compromise their local diets, and start raising beef themselves, just like us cushy americans. imagine what the water table will be like if this happens. forget about the moral issues. americans eat too much red meat and it shows up in their terrible health. we are over harvesting the land and waters because of our habits.

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HMMM
Posted by: neojerk on Nov 30, 2005 7:03 AM   
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so a cow is sapient? ever meet a cow? did you chat? while the conditions these animals are raised under can be abominable and i do not approve of feedlots and factory style farming practices, i gotta draw the line at granting these critters the ability to think 'gee, i sure am glad to be alive'.

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Debate: "Well-Reasoned Arguments" vs "It's Yummy"
Posted by: Kneel on Nov 30, 2005 7:08 AM   
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I'm all for dialogue. I didn't feel I was being pious or self-righteous or sneering (certainly not sneering). Here, I thought I was being droll. And I certainly appreciate that Dave05 could be so honest with me in his brilliant rebuttal (that's me being sneering). Glad you could say it honestly.

I just feel that this article adds nothing to the discussion. And, sadly, same with most of the comments.

What I was attacking is the point of the article: somehow, the idea of eating animals "mindfully" brings a marvelous new perspective to table and offers some sort of an answer. It doesn't. It doesn't contribute anything to the discussion except to offer a salve for someone's conscience. And it's nothing new, either.

So what's the point of the article? (Somebody feeling guilty about Thanksgiving?)

Against the multitude of solid, well-reasoned arguments for not eating animals there seems to be only, "I like to eat meat," or the popular variation, "Well, I eat meat. So there!"

Cows and sheep are environmentally destructive even on the open range, from the way the graze to the way the visit streams. Sorry. Fact. Doesn't matter how mindfully you eat 'em afterwards. Applies even if they're raised by a hippie playing a mandolin to them as they range over ten-thousand square miles before you cut 'em up.




Is there some argument besides "I like the taste" that someone could present (besides a few noises about B-12)?

I was trying to be funny while making a point in my comment: Are there arguments for meat-eating that couldn't just as easily apply to cannibalism?

I'm well aware that there can be circumstances and environments where we'd have to eat meat. No problem with that. I definitely favor my species. If you're being attacked and it's you or the bear, bye-bye bear.

But we have the choice. We don't have to constantly be killing all these animals for a reason as flimsy as just that we like the way they taste. What a blessing (not from a deity, necessarily, but a blessing just the same). And given that we have that option, I'm puzzled as to why more people don't take it.

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MMMmmm... Blood
Posted by: IEyeI on Nov 30, 2005 7:13 AM   
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The fact is eating meat is a waste. Producing fruits and vegetables is 10 times more energy efficient than raising any vegetarian animal and potentially 100 times more than some of our animals lucky enough to be raised cannibalistically. We can thank mass production agrarian capitalism for that, and resulting mad cow etc. The argument that it is healthy is pure rationalization. What a healthy meat addicted society we live in.

“Where will the land for a small family farm come from?”
We’ll if they all grew plants we would need much less of the land that we are already using. Efforts could be put into increasing the variety and specialization of our ridiculously homogenizing plant genetics, which could/will likely lead to a serious biological crisis, think potato blight, locusts, etc. Recent trends should show you that Americans, who can afford to eat on a smaller more organic scale, prefer to. Big business could find themselves helplessly stuck in the low end of produce quality and consumer demand. Why would you buy nitrogen-junkie green giant when there is so much greater variety and quality easily and now relatively cheaply available. The vastly increased food surplus could be put towards feeding the world (how naively optimistic) and maybe, if we’re willing to not have ripe grapes in February, ending our dependence on (addicting desire for) South American cheap labor produce.

All of our problems arise from our desires. Never try to justify them, especially to yourself and oh, I eat meat, cuz I wanna.

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I agree with this
Posted by: ggmurray on Nov 30, 2005 7:53 AM   
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We do have choices about how and what we eat, as well as how we focus our food dollars. For those of us who include meat in our diet, giving our dollars to organically raised animals sends a clear signal of what is wanted.
When I buy a chicken - whether cooked or uncooked - none of it goes to waste, and that is a small way of respecting the life of the creature. We eat the meat, then the rest is simmered to make nourishing soup broth. I separate what remains for (1) the soup, (2) the dogs, or (3) bones to the fire.
All life forms on our planet eat other life forms, from the smallest microbe to the largest mammal. Among humans, some of us are strongly guided to avoid meat; others are not. Respecting each other and respecting life is the key.

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This just in... animals eat other animals
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Nov 30, 2005 7:58 AM   
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I have never understood why some people get so up in arms about eating animals.

Animals have been eating other animals on this planet for hundreds of millions of years.

While yes it is more resource efficient to grow and eat fruits, vegetables, and grain, how many animal rights people are calculating out how much they save and donating that money to feed hungry people?

Our current economic system makes this resource savings irrelevant. As long as foreign land and labor is far cheaper than American land and labor, we will have cheap meat imports just like all the other cheap imports.

I do think that humankind should seek to leave as small a footprint on this planet as possible. We produce our own livestock, which is a far cry better than removing fish from the ocean and depleting the planet's supplies.

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cerry
Posted by: cerry on Nov 30, 2005 8:03 AM   
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Why doesn't this debate ever move beyond the 'don't eat meat because it's wrong to kill members of the animal kingdom, eat vegetables instead because it's OK to kill members of the vegetable kingdon' and get to a realistic dialogue about _why_ humans eat anything - to get calories (from carbohydrate and fat sources), protein, minerals and vitamins necessary to sustain life - and what sources of those nutrients can be raised where in a manner that is sustainable and responsible? If the most responsible way to grow protein on a particular piece of land or area of the country is cattle or sheep graising free range followed by ckicken tractors rather than trying to plow up the soil and grow soybeans, then so be it. If it is more responsible to produce calories by intensive crop rotation of vegetables and grains rather than humanely farming animal production on a particular plot of land, then so be it.

The issue goes beyond the morality of what to eat - agricultural production of any kind is a system that few of us want to spend the time thinking about - for example, if we want to shift to a standard non-meat diet in the USA, where will the nitrogen fertilizer necessary to grow a wide variety of crops come from - today, it's either from petroleum based or animal manure based products.

I wish the answer to preventing the suffering of animals raised in factory farm conditions was as simple as 'just don't eat meat' - but it's not. Here in the USA we do have more alternative protien sources (hopefully raised in a sustainable manner) that could be utilized more widely for food - but, frankly, elimination of protein malnutrition worldwide will require animal flesh protein to achieve, and in this country availability and cost of non-meat protein will prevent low income households from meeting thier protien needs.

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Good article, but another important point
Posted by: Deep on Nov 30, 2005 8:08 AM   
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An important reason to boycott the meatpacking industry-more important than how it treats it's animals-is how the meatpacking industry treats it's workers. With the decaying of labor laws in US and especially in the High Plains, workers in the meatpacking industry are subjected to hazards that can not only lead to life altering harm, but even death. Not to mention almost all of them tend to be undocumented immigrants who are too scared to seek medical help. As illustrated in Eric Scholsser's Fast Food Nation, workers not only face a grueling work schedule, where they are exposed to dosens of sharp objects, and carry out repetative actions that strains joints. many of them are subject to abuse by their supervisors and women are are subjected to sexual harassment by both supervisors and co workers. The meatpacking industry has one of the worst records for workplace saftey.

It frustrates me, to see how much sympathy people have for a stupid cow, then they do for human beings who in some cases are being treated worse. For too many Americans, if you're Mexican and are not in this country legally then you don't qualify to be treated as a human being.

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you have what's called "cognitive dissonance" -- look it up...
Posted by: satyagirl on Nov 30, 2005 8:25 AM   
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A crucial point you missed is that regardless of how humanely the animals are raised, they all end up in the same slaughterhouses. There is no such thing as "humane slaughter" despite what the industry wants you to believe. It's an oxymoron. It's a gruesome thing to watch -- I dare you to witness the whole process and see how that affects your appetite for animal flesh. There is serious denial involved when we eat meat -- of course it tastes good. A fried piece of your left butt cheek would probably also be quite tasty if you didn't know what you were eating. Our culture has numbed us to the cruelty we inflict on animals. A pig, cow, chicken, elk, suffers the same and feels pain just as your dog or cat would. If you saw the terror in the eyes of an animal as they are being led in to slaughter, you'd never be the same. They know what is happening - I've seen it and it's unmistakable that they are fully aware and terrified. The few laws that do exist to protect farm animals are severely inadequate, rarely enforced, and anything the industry considers to be "standard practice" is allowed. Farm animals are routinely mutilated and disfigured, often for convenience or some perceived benefit to productivity. Do you realize that your "humanely" raised cattle have their testicles cut off without any anesthetic? Imagine what that might feel like. The list of mutilations is endless. Check out www.factoryfarming.com if you want to truly be "mindful" of what you're doing. Everything we do impacts the environment but meat eating is the most damaging thing anyone can do on a daily basis to the earth. The statistics speak for themselves when you learn how much water, grain, land is used to produce each pound of beef and all the waste generated. Our addiction to meat is killing the planet and killing ourselves in the process. Not to mention the issue of how selfish we are to consume so many resources when a billion people on the planet don't have enough to eat every day. World hunger could be eliminated if everyone chose to eat lower on the food chain. Instead developing countries are catching up to our unsustainable eating habits and the problem is only getting worse.

"As long as people will shed the blood of innocent creatures there can be no peace, no liberty, no harmony between people. Slaughter and justice cannot dwell together."
--Isaac Bashevis Singer

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The point is...
Posted by: bettsoff on Nov 30, 2005 8:28 AM   
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Evangelical veggies see not eating meat as a moral imperative. Hence they scold and belittle and accuse the the flesh-chewers of being disgusting and too unevolved have compassion for animals....

Much like evangelical christians see not screwing someone of the same sex as a moral imperative. Hence they guilt and oppress and accuse the same-sex-screwers of being disgusting and unnatural.

A similar analogy could be drawn to anti-choicers.

Meat eaters do not see eating meat as a moral imperative. The morality they find in it is to respect their place in the ecosystem by supporting farming methods that cause the least amount of harm and consuming in moderation.

The debate will never be equally conducted because for one side it is a matter of morality and for the other it isn't on the morality radar. Meat to veggie conversions and back will only happen analogous to religious conversions, and we all know how *splendidly* civil the debates between religious/non-religious folk are.

Note that I am not morally equating veggie-ism with fundamental christianity. I'm just pointing out that the structure of the beliefs in this debate and how they are expressed by both sides follows a similar pattern.

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"let them eat organic tofu"
Posted by: zooeyhall on Nov 30, 2005 9:15 AM   
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I was recently reading an article about a foundation that provides poor farmers in Haiti with goats. The goats are perfect livestock for these desperately poor people: they don't require expensive grains to feed, they can live off virtually anything, they grow fast, they are hardy, they provide the Haitian peasant with both meat and milk. It has been very successful in helping improve the protien in the diet for these people.

I myself am a small dairy farmer. I care about my animals but they are also my livelihood. I am dismayed by some of the frothing-at-the-mouth responses by animal lovers to this article. I have a strong suspicion that many of them are actually quite well to do with secure existences, never having to face the prospect of real hunger. So they believe that these poor Haitians should'nt use the products of their goats? That they can just buzz down to their local supermarket and get some organic tofu?

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Great article
Posted by: Ricki on Nov 30, 2005 9:16 AM   
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We raise grassfed beef, pastured poultry and pastured pork on a small family farm, for ourselves and a small clientele.

I respect the opinions of those who choose not to eat meat for whatever reason, and expect the same respect from them.


But the scientific fact is, and look at our dental structure and ape ancestors to back it up, that we are omnivores and that is the healthiest way to eat. Naturally raised, grassfed animal products are the type of animal products our bodies are meant to eat. For more nutrition information, see the Weston Price Foundation website, too much information to go into this comment.

The natural world is composed of a food web of animals eating animals.

If you decide to opt out of that, that is your right, but it is not your healthiest option.

That said, there are several things to think about - if these animals are not used for food, will they be pets? Or will they die out as species alltogether?

The farming of vegetables is more labor/fuel intensive and harder on the soil than carefully managed rotational grazing. This type of grazing improves soils and pasturage.


The loss of family farms is nothing to sneer at. Who do you think cares more about the quality of your food, be it animal or vegetable - the small family farmer that you buy directly from, who's operation you can go see, or the giant corporation interested only in profit that uses lots of fossil fuels to grow your food and ship it all over?

There are A LOT more nuances to this discussion than most of you know, and I am not being snotty about this, but most of our population is urban and has no idea of how their food is raised. How many of you have ever talked to a farmer? How many of you have ever gone to a farm and spent the day looking around?

There is a whole renaissance of family farms occuring, farms that raise their animals in a humane and stress free environment. Farms that practice soil respecting restorative agriculture. Farms that are striving to be a balanced whole ecological self-sustaining system unto themselves. Farms that want to feed their local area with healthy food.

This is the future of farming. People will not stop eating meat. If you really care about farm animals and the environment, this is what you should support, whether you eat meat or not.

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Posted by: mick3 on Nov 30, 2005 9:20 AM   
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This sure arouses emotions. Wonder why? Some of us gradually become vegetarians for the reasons set forth by Miller. We all know how horribly animals are treated by agribusiness. Personally, I found it increasingly impossible to eat creatures that have been so abused to increase profits. Then it was beef, if only because of the ghastly way they're killed, completely unnecessary but quick and cheap. I'd read that turkeys die off in the inhumane conditions inflicted on chickens, but then I met a turkey-farm worker. I already knew a worker from battery-egg farms and knew that hens are literally tortured to death to keep producing eggs beyond their natural capacity. So gradually, I became a vegetarian, and now--no biggie. I can't afford meat produced humanely and don't want the results of all that suffering inside my body. Who would? Meat production is wasteful of resources as well.

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Beef is a vegetable
Posted by: TomCampitelli on Nov 30, 2005 9:22 AM   
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