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A 'Loyal Opposition' Won't End the War

By Jeremy Scahill, AlterNet. Posted November 21, 2005.


Until the Democrats admit their complicity -- going back 15 years or more -- in the war on Iraq, there's no chance for withdrawal.

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The refrain of the Democrats about being misled into supporting the invasion of Iraq has become really tired. And someone other than the White House smearmongers needs to say it: The Democrats cannot be allowed to use faulty intelligence as a crutch to hold up their unforgivable support for the Iraq invasion. What is DNC Chair Howard Dean's excuse? He wasn't in Congress and didn't have any access to Senate intelligence. Still, on March 9, 2003, just days before the invasion began, Dean told Tim Russert, on NBC's Meet The Press, "I don't want Saddam staying in power with control over those weapons of mass destruction. I want him to be disarmed."

During the New Hampshire primary in January 2004, which I covered for Democracy Now!, I confronted Dean about that statement. I asked him on what intelligence he based that allegation. "Talks with people who were knowledgeable," Dean told me. "Including a series of folks that work in the Clinton administration."

A series of folks that work in the Clinton administration.

How does that jibe with the official Democratic line that they were misled by the Bush administration? Sounds like Howard Dean, head of the Democratic Party, was misled by... the Democrats. Dean's candor offers us a rare glimpse into the painful truth of the matter. As unpopular as this is to say, when President Bush accuses the Democrats of "rewriting history" on Iraq, he is right.

None of the horrors playing out in Iraq today would be possible without the Democratic Party. And no matter how hard some party leaders try to deny it, this is their war too and will remain so until every troop is withdrawn. There is no question that the Bush administration is one of the most corrupt, violent and brutal in the history of this country but that doesn't erase the serious responsibility the Democrats bears for the bloodletting in Iraq.

As disingenuous as the Administration's claims that Iraq had WMDs is the flimsy claim by Democratic lawmakers that they were somehow duped into voting for the war. The fact is that Iraq posed no threat to the United States in 2003 any more than it did in 1998 when President Clinton bombed Baghdad. John Kerry and his colleagues knew that. The Democrats didn't need false intelligence to push them into overthrowing Saddam Hussein's regime. It was their policy; a policy made the law of the land not under George W. Bush, but under President Bill Clinton when he signed the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act, formally initiating the process of regime change in Iraq.

Manipulated intelligence is but a small part of a bigger, bipartisan 15-year assault on Iraq's people. If the Democrats really want to look at how America was led into this war, they need to go back further than the current president's inauguration.

As bloody and deadly as the occupation has been, it was Bill Clinton who refined the art of killing innocent Iraqis following the Gulf War. One of his first acts as president was to bomb Iraq, following the alleged assassination plot against George HW Bush. Clinton's missiles killed the famed Iraqi painter Leila al Attar as they smashed into her home. Clinton presided enthusiastically over the most deadly and repressive regime of economic sanctions in history -- his UN ambassador Madeline Albright calling the reported deaths of half a million children "worth the price." Clinton initiated the longest sustained bombing campaign since Vietnam with his illegal no-fly zone bombings, attacking Iraq once every three days for the final years of his presidency. It was under Clinton that Ahmed Chalabi was given tens of millions of dollars and made a key player in shaping Washington's Iraq policy. It was Clinton that mercilessly attacked Iraq in December of 1998, destroying dozens of Baghdad buildings and killing scores of civilians. It was Clinton that codified regime change in Iraq as US policy. Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq but he could not have done it without the years of groundwork laid by Clinton and the Democrats. How ironic it was recently to hear Clinton call the war "a big mistake."


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Jeremy Scahill is a correspondent for the national radio and TV program Democracy Now!. He has spent extensive time reporting from Iraq and the former Yugoslavia, where he covered the 1999 NATO bombing.

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Not far enough
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Nov 21, 2005 4:24 AM   
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"All of this begs for a multiparty system in this country and the emergence of a true opposition."
This article does not go far enough. Beside the crimes against the Iraqis, both parties have been complicit in crimes against the American people. Eisenhower was criticized for his honesty in admitting that Francis Gary Powers was a spy. Later, in his farewell address, he demonstrated his honesty again. He warned the American people of the "military industrrial complex". Under the watchful eye of both our political parties this establishment has grown and flourished. It is no longer merely a Military/industrial complex, but a military/industrial/corporate/ media/Republican/Democrat complex. All pitted against the people. A multi-party system will not work. In order to have any political power, a third party would have to join the establishment and would not be a true opposition party. We need a two-party system with the voters in control of both parties. Not the "special interests" that bribe both parties with campaign contributions and spend millions of dollars lobbying Congress to betray the American people. This control will never be obtained by voting alone, once the vote is cast it has lost its power. Between elections the parties work for the establishment. The tools that fight effectively against corporations, the threat of strikes and boycotts, can be used against the political parties and the establishment that controls them. I propose that every eligible voter write to the National Headquarters of both parties and to their State Headquarters of both parties. Tell each your most important issue, end the war, campaign finance reform, whatever. Tell them that you will not support any candidate who does not present a plan, before election day, to accomplish your goal. This will force both parties to decide whether they want your vote or not. It will force both parties to concentrate on the issues important to the people. If neither party supports your view use your vote to protest. Write in a vote for "Honest Abe". Click on Do it now

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» RE: Eisenhower was misquoted Posted by: Enkidu Nwyvre
» A Dose of Realism Here Posted by: fairleft
» RE: A Dose of Realism Here Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: A Dose of Realism Here Posted by: fairleft
Information is power
Posted by: Marjorie G on Nov 21, 2005 4:47 AM   
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True that information is power, but so is an improved understanding of government, issues, civics, and how votes are sometimes tactics and not what they appear. Many in Congress knew the WMDs were hyped, but needed public verification by getting in the inspectors and by including the UN, where Cheney refused to go. They also felt they would find something, and needed to stop a runaway train. In all Kerry's statements, he did not want war, the rush to war, before and during. His life has been devoted to diplomacy and internationalism, and could have been given some slack in trying to navigate an election where an anti-war candidate would not have been elected in war and fear.

Much has been revealed lately that should have been covered during the campaign. But the media, both right and left, were too busy bashing Kerry and rewriting that immediate history. This article seems to do the same, but understanding the shame of all our foreign policy's bad judgment can't be repeated enough.

You love Murtha's word 'immediate', but he doesn't say out tomorrow, but within the next year and months with a plan, not unlike Kerry's plan to include benchmarks. A reality is he understands how difficult to move the machinery on a dime. Kerry didn't disown Murtha's ideas, but understands they come from a place of absolute disgust and lack of confidence in this adminstration. After all that we have caused, we have to try to help clean up the mess.

I think the war that Bush started in time for mid terms in '02, will begin to end before midterms in '06, however much they wanted Iraq for permanent bases.

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» RE: Information is power Posted by: Pepper
» RE: Information is power Posted by: Marjorie G
» RE: Information is power Posted by: Lincoln fan
I have been saying that since the Dems actually voted for the Patriot Act
Posted by: Pepper on Nov 21, 2005 6:28 AM   
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...... in 2001 and I haven't quit saying it since. I have said it right here on this blog many times. I am glad someone else sees it. Now its time to DO FOR OURSELVES. Why doesn't anyone want to address that?

Why do you still believe the system as constructed works? It doesn't, its broken, its over, so lets move on. To end the war in Iraq, we have to write to the soldiers and tell them to engage in civil disobedience and we have to do the same thing here. We have to build a new system among ourselves and ignore the old one. The voting machines kill our real votes anyway. Why do you think they aren't worried about the election in 2006?

So, we organize at a grassroots level. Start with your friends and others who feel the same as you do. Elect a leader and begin to plan. We aren't through with the horrors they plan for us, so we need to be prepared and doing this all over the country will take the power back to the people. I have ideas if anyone is really interested. We could even get something really down on paper and share it through the net and begin to not only help oursleves, but our neighbors.

Finally, DON'T SUPPORT THE SYSTEM WITH YOUR VOTES OR YOUR TAXES. Don't vote in "THEIR" system, vote in your own newly created system. Pay your taxes into an attorneys escrow account and don't file your returns and don't support the war with your money. I just read there are over 9,000 Americans who have died in the war since many did not die on the battle field which is all they count. Many died on the way to the mash unit, the hospital, to Germany and to the US and even after reaching here. They died of their wounds.

So, now everyone has a choice. Now is when you find out what YOUR really all about if you don't do something now. Later it will be too late. Don't count on Fitz either, he is on his third grand jury. Now why exactly is that???? That is for another discussion altogether. I am telling you it is really up to us and no one else. P

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» Break with the Dems Posted by: crachlis
Blah Blah Blah
Posted by: jrmart66 on Nov 21, 2005 6:35 AM   
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Christ--- lets STOP THIS. the past cannot be changed. it makes little difference if it is written, rewritten or carved on the side of a mountain.
the facts are: the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has commited murder. It has commited crimes against it's own citizens. and that means by the LEGISLATURE AND THE ADMINISTRATION.

this article raises no new issues, nothing that wasn't allready known. Worse, this article offers NOTHING PRODUCTIVE.
How about a strategy? Not a pie in sky, hope that the management of the government suddenly be changed and all 'GOOD" people will throw out all those "BAD" people.

i found this article boring.

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» RE: Blah Blah Blah I AGREE! Posted by: qrswave
» Sorry, pepaw... Posted by: qrswave
» RE: Blah Blah Blah Posted by: cstriker
» RE: Blah Blah Blah Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Blah Blah Blah Posted by: john52
gramps
Posted by: gramps on Nov 21, 2005 7:04 AM   
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"Fascism is the marriage of corporation power and state power."--Benito Mussolini. "The Republicans get 95% of their money from the corporations and the Democrats 75%. This is as close as you can get without an open terroristic dictatorship.

The corporations not only dominate what we think by their ownership of the media, but they own the government by their control of politics. This is a situation that will eventually be resolved by revolution unless the people get these money making machines out of politics and insist that newspapers and the air-waves are only allowed to have a human owner.

Revoloutions are not made by revolutionaries--they are made by the people. The sad historical fact is that they usually wind up with worse bastards than the ones they overthrew. It is time for us to concentrate on exposing their think tanks and their lobbying. Perhaps one day they will be converted into cooperatives.

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» RE: gramps Posted by: Lincoln fan
Cahill"s post
Posted by: Gma1 on Nov 21, 2005 7:28 AM   
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I believe this is called in literary circles, "muddying the waters". Read this:

http://www.iraqwatch.org/government/US/Legislation/ILA.htm

What this article opines was done as part of the responsibility for the total idoacy done under Bush is just not true. Do a little research. Indeed, this action was taken in an effort to avoid war. Saddam Hussein was not complying with the UN conditions. Congress, indeed, sought to provide training and assistance to those wishing to overthrow this government (Kurds were one group). Don't be led down that sheep's path by people who have an agenda of their own. Educate yourselves!

This article is worth reading only if you want to bash Democrats - not if you are interested in the present and in a solution to today's morass!

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» RE: Cahill"s post Posted by: Gma1
Thanks for saying this, and yes, it is necessary
Posted by: MTOLincoln on Nov 21, 2005 8:23 AM   
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Thanks for saying what you did so clearly. Many Democrats still need to hear this and know this. Those opposed to the war really do not have a party that represents them. Those of us who do oppose it either have to try to gain more control of the Democratic Party, or create an alternative party that will represent a clear alternative.

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On shaky ground
Posted by: bookwoman on Nov 21, 2005 8:27 AM   
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Because so many Democrats voted to allow "W" permission to go to war, people like Cheney will always be able to come back, in argument, with that fact, and "they had the same facts we did". They will claim that ad nauseum. My instant response to that is "we voted for permission because we believed the facts. We believed the facts because we thought we could trust this President. Shame on us for trusting you, but shame on you, "W", for not letting that be possible.

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» RE: On shaky ground Posted by: sofun
Bill Scheurer
Posted by: wcscheurer on Nov 21, 2005 8:36 AM   
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Jeremy,

The work you call for -- undoing the corporate two-party duopoly -- has begun! Please spread the word.

You can visit our Congressional campaign website: www.WinWithBill.com.

Thanks,

Bill Scheurer, Editor
The PeaceMajority Report

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AndieGee
Posted by: Andie927 on Nov 21, 2005 9:16 AM   
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A third party is an idea I've been advocating for some time. I have written to Alternet, CommonCause, and Progressive American suggesting a combination of Greens, Progressives and Independants (GIP). I also agree with the writter that corporations have way too much control over our political process, and our government. End all lobbists, unless they represent actual voters, not businesses.
That said, I have to disagree with the writter on several other issues. Please don't get me wrong. I don't like the Democratic party, I just dislike the Repug's more! I'm not anti-war, I'm anti-senseless war's started for the profiteers!
In today's Dayton Beach News-Jrnl under the heading Student Voices is a very interesting article 'War, even on terrorism, is wrong' by Gehani Bethmage, he explains how under Reagan and Bush 1 from 1983-1988, we shipped Saddam weapons to use against Iran, and the chemicals to make the mustered gas he used against the Kurds. It is very detailed and I can't repeat it all here. Yes, Clinton did bombing, and enforced the no-fly zone, but he didn't take us unilaterally in to war! W did hype the pre-war intelligence, and I will happily send an article from Progressive Ameican which details the exact statements made by who and how wrong they were. The Senate, even according to Woodwards book didn't have as much information as the Saudi Prince!
Kerry made a very moving speech in defence of Murtha, he did NOT put him down ever! The only place I heard anyone make the statement that Kerry spoke against Murtha was on Meet the Press Sunday! I sent them Kerry's full speech and demanded a retraction! No response, they wouldn't want the truth to interfer with their Repug. message!
If we're going to start a third party I'd like to see it based on telling the American People the truth they deserve, not more distortions!

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» RE: AndieGee Posted by: Ellie1
Hey, visionaries, we need to stop the GOP NOW!
Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 21, 2005 9:39 AM   
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We don't have a third party to represent us. That means that we don't have any party to represent us. But that's just a further indication of how desperate we are.

Yes, the lesser evil is still evil. But when has politics ever been different. This article wants a mea culpa from the Demos. Well, we ain't gonna get it -- at least I hope. Our fellow Americans cannot even distinguish the difference between a W and a Kerry; that requires being able to smell the lies coming out of the GOP. American noses are so numbed by lies that the last thing we need NOW is historical details to confuse the situation further or a party split.

"Patience, patience, we will win in the end." --R.W. Emerson

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» Sojourner, You are Correct Posted by: cyclone
Nottslanding
Posted by: Nottslanding on Nov 21, 2005 10:30 AM   
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Peace advocates have never been fooled by the Democrats. Two significant candidates in the last presidential election, Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton always stood for peace. Many times "debates" wanted to leave them out as "not major contenders." Additionally, the Green Party has always stood on the side of Peace and Justice, and they've always been left out of debates. I believe the Democrats have been co-opted by the Military/Industrial/Corporate complex as much as Republicans have. We need to work to bring alternate parties to the for. Instant runoff elections would be a start.

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Beware the looming attack against Iran
Posted by: ScottP on Nov 21, 2005 10:29 AM   
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It appears the appetite for destruction has not been sated, and the administration is preparing to attack Iran. Bolton's bellicose actions in the UN and falsified "intelligence" about an Iranian warhead program are but a couple of the many preparations being taken.

Claims that we couldn't support such an attack are either misguided or deceptive. The military is flying countless airstrikes out of the new bases in Iraq on one side and Afghanistan on the other, to claim that it would be impossible to continue on to Iran is naive. The troops in Iraq are just there to stir up trouble, they could just as easily be redeployed to stir up trouble in Iran.

The motive being assembled for the attack, Iran's alleged nuclear weapon program and their supposed probability of actually using them, is specious. Although perhaps I shouldn't dismiss that so quickly, for if it "takes one to know one", the US should be the judge of who would use nuclear weapons. After all, we're the only nation to ever actually use them. And not just the 2 we dropped in Japan. We're using them on a continuing basis in Iraq, with hundreds of tons of nuclear material now spread across populated areas thanks to our artillery and ammunition that contains "depleted uranium", which of course is still uranium to the child born deformed due to it. Our use of nuclear weapons in Iraq far exceeds the attacks on Japan. It's hard to imagine a more effective way to make enemies for life than to take a family and kill a couple members, blow off a couple limbs of a couple others,leave them all unemployed, and for the final insult have the offspring deformed. The concept of the US having the moral authority to ask another nation to refrain from developing nuclear weapons is something only a TV watcher could buy.

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ECLECTICIST, S JIM RODRIGUEZ
Posted by: SJR505 on Nov 21, 2005 11:10 AM   
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My Father, a political activist in Texas politics, once told me that in the 1940's, 1950's that one could not tell the difference between a "Conservative Democract " and a "Liberal Republican..."

And, to a certain extent, he was correct...Now I affectionately called them the "REPUGNICANS" and the 'COWARDCRACTS.." respectively... Take your pick, I cannot differentiate one to another, both are driven by three things..."MONEY, MONEY, AND MORE MONEY..."

S...JIM...RODRIGUEZ+++EL ECLECTICIST+++
3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

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Begs the question
Posted by: BlueTigress on Nov 21, 2005 11:12 AM   
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Who says that anyone in Washington aside from Murtha wants out of Iraq?

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» RE: Begs the question Posted by: cyclone
Get a grip...we don't need more Republican spin...
Posted by: www.WritingResource.org on Nov 21, 2005 11:33 AM   
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There is plenty of blame to go around.
But blaming Clinton for Bush's errors is wrong.
Get off it. We get enough of this from the Rove machine.

This administration is corrupt. They are enforcing corporate contracts in Iraq at a huge cost in human lives and resources.
We need to open up the bidding, replace our troops with
international peacekeepers, and rebuild America.
Pontification about the past will not move us into the future.
Getting sucked into the spin machine WILL NOT help
Democrats.
Democrats and all others who oppose this
lawless administration need to speak up, write letters,
get active and remove these criminals from office so we can
take care of America.
best regards, Tim

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Third party cannot work
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Nov 21, 2005 3:11 PM   
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No one can magically create a third party who can elect a president, not in the next three years. It will never happen. The Democrats will split and the Republicans will remain in power. In fact I would bet thats what they are counting on to happen. Change can come from each one of you getting involved with your own districts and electing people you think will represent you. I have been aware of politics since Truman and no third party did more than get a representative elected. No matter how mad or upset you are, you have to work at getting what you want. Sitting at a computer does not change things on the ground. How involved are you and what are you doing to change things? Only you, me and neighbors can change this.

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» RE: Third party cannot work Posted by: Lincoln fan
What About the Iraqis Demanding a Withdrawal Timetable?
Posted by: decembrist on Nov 21, 2005 3:26 PM   
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The Iraqis themselves have to count for something, don't they? The callousness of the House discussion on withdrawal is that apparently no mention of what the IRAQIS THEMSELVES think was ever made. Iraq is supposed to be a fledgling democracy, isn't it?

Well, Iraqi leaders have issued their FIRST joint statement ever, putting aside all other differences. It is a statement calling for the creation of a clear timetable for the withdrawal of ALL foreign troops. Iraqi leaders must be feeling the heat from their constituents: Kurdish, Shiite AND Sunni, because I can't see a precariously existing government in a precariously destabilized country wanting the majority of their friendly firepower to leave.

But it's what the Iraqis want, and I don't blame them one bit.

Iraq leaders demand pullout timetable

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Gramps is right
Posted by: IanA on Nov 21, 2005 4:03 PM   
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You seem to be arguing about whether Coke or Pepsy is Best.... It's the same rubbish.
"Fascism is the marriage of corporation power and state power."--Benito Mussolini. "

And it's being sold to you with professional manipulation just like a consumer product. You all need to read the article by JAMES BAMFORD in Rolling Stone

"The Man Who Sold the War"

"...As the war in Iraq has spiralled out of control, the Bush administration's covert propaganda campaign has intensified. According to a secret Pentagon report personally approved by Rumsfeld in October 2003 and obtained by Rolling Stone, the Strategic Command is authorized to engage in "military deception" -- defined as "presenting false information, images or statements." The seventy-four-page document, titled "Information Operations Roadmap," also calls for psychological operations to be launched over radio, television, cell phones and "emerging technologies" such as the Internet. In addition to being classified secret, the road map is also stamped noforn, meaning it cannot be shared even with our allies."

The upshot is that the making wars is just big business, and it has become the only business in town in many senses and in many places. From game software, entertainment or PR biz, it is way outside the conventional perception of just weapons and mercenaries etc.. It is the creation of wars.

I think, the business of contracting deception for Government hire must be put out of business if ever you are to get back to some righteousness and sanity in world affairs. But one also wanders why this man is now talking to this journalist. Are you being manipulated here too?

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Amnesia
Posted by: lpforti on Nov 21, 2005 6:15 PM   
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And to muddy up the dialogue even more, as if on cue, Senator Biden's speech today. His solution after decades in the Senate is essentially: he wishes he could add more troops, but since that doesn't seem possible, we need a change of policy. It's a wonder we're not in worse shape - but oh wait, Senator Biden can unwittingly allow our military to do war in Syria and Iran. It's amazing that this man has no clue that he along with other like minded democrats are equally complicit in the war crimes that have been perpetrated against the Iraqi people going back to the first gulf war whereby we aided both sides in the killing of their people to the tune of 1,000,000+ - we are now in the third gulf war. Senator Biden has no clue that history will record that he and others like himself will be noted for all posterity as part of the murderous regimes in American history that reaped death and destruction on countless cultures over a thirty year period. Remember Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Granada, Columbia, Lebanon, Somalia, Bosnia, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq and I'm sure I missed a few.

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» RE: Amnesia Posted by: IanA
Let them stand for hours in a resort at Guantanamo.
Posted by: lc on Nov 23, 2005 6:00 AM   
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I suggest that the entire Bush Administration and every Congressperson who voted for invading Iraq be sent to a resort made especially for them in Guantanamo with the most serious cases being “rendered” to Abu Gharib and “CIA third country secret prisons” where “We do not torture!” May they all stand together.

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Jeremy: Stop Whining
Posted by: roger1 on Nov 23, 2005 9:19 AM   
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There is much work to be done with elected officials at all levels of government relative to this war. Similarly, so-called reporters bear much responsibility. So do many other social groups. We could spend a lot of time on the "blame game," as this articles does. But it seems that beating a tired donkey is counter-productive and, while it may lead to momentary feelings of elation, it does not move the ball down the field.

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The masses already broke from the Dems when will you
Posted by: crachlis on Nov 24, 2005 1:32 PM   
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The Democrats are incapable of attracting the masses of the working class to their rotten party. It is a combination of the liberal/progressive intelligencia and sell out leaders of the trade union, women´s, black churchs and Latino communites that teather the masses to the Democratic wing of the one big capitalist party (Republocrats or Demokins if you prefere). But the majority have left the two parties and sit on the sidelines because there is no organized force that presents a program to meet their real needs.

Where is the party that fights for:
1) Full employment.
2) Free education from pre school to post secondary school.
3) Medical care for all.
4) A clean energy policy.
5) A clean food policy.
6) An end to incarceration of millions of poor.
7) An end to the death penalty.
8) Humane care for the elderly.
9) Freedom of choice and control of ones own body.
10) Freedom of privacy (note the dems vote for the patriot act)

Just a few points that would form the foundation of an organization that answers the needs of those who have abandoned the two parties of capital.

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Americas on borders and UN in Iraq
Posted by: danielet on Dec 1, 2005 3:39 PM   
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So many in Iraq have guns and bombs that it is hard to say why, who, did what. Gangs, shaheeds and politicos all can be expected to willingly kill themselves because there is helpless shame and no future under the American gunships. No reconstruction and no jobs while Halliburton and Bush politicos pocket the cash means only misery if you're a young Iraqi. Our soldiers in Iraq are not just National Guard. A lot are pros who love guns and shooting them, sometimes maybe too much. According to British Command, the Americans often behaved like the German troops in Poland and Russia. Meanwhile, the borders are porous to shahids and explosives because there are not enough troops. So there is no shortage of killers and killing tools in this nation where revenge is the only way to regain your dignity. To die can make you a hero to someone if you take enough "enemy" with you. As Murtha said: we are the targets and the cause they can collaborate on. US troops should get out of the way, maybe to seal the borders instead of bashing in doors of homes. There is a way to stay in Iraq without destroying it to save it.

Recently, as President of the UN Security Council, Romania put forward a bid for UN troops that would replace the Americans and might better deal with Iraq. So why not put the Americans on border duty and let others guide Iraq to democracy, people who better speak their language and know their society?

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Super Sold
Posted by: Vill on Oct 19, 2006 9:21 AM   
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