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The Gene Wars

By Patricia J. Williams, The Nation. Posted November 15, 2005.


We live in a time when embryos and fetuses are gaining the status of 'persons,' with legal rights to sue. Is this a good thing?

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In the beginning, there was a time when doctors treated pregnant women by listening to them tell of their symptoms.

There were no visuals, no color glossies, no T-shirts with the sonogram emblazoned. There was relative quiet in the womb, which took quiet to attend to. It required listening to the woman say, "This is what it feels like."

It required a palpating of the body, a laying on of hands. Midwives and doctors used touch, eyes, ears, measuring from the outside to get a sense of what was within -- sounds, motions, clues. It was the mother-to-be whose health was indicative of the condition of the embryo or fetus.

Whether life was deemed to begin at conception or whether with quickening, the interdependence of the womb and the woman was a given.

I'm certainly not advocating that we turn back the clock with regard to obstetric medicine, but it is arresting to recall that interconnectedness in a time when "life" has become increasingly divorced from traditional contours of the human body.

We live in a time when embryos and fetuses are gaining legal rights to sue, are attaining the status of persons, are being enshrined in a molecularly sized iconography of innocents to be saved. With technology, we can make visual what no generation has been privy to before. Like satellites homing in on a secret bunker from space, we have the spyware to case the joint -- the interior of the uterus, the cells, even mitochondria, and now DNA.

With all that comes interpretation, and politics, and ideology. And lo, the birth of "the unborn." The magnified fetus becomes an external, a separate entity. Women are no longer imbued with the halo-illuminated metaphors of ripeness and enfolding that underscore so many of our religious notions about women round with child.

At least or perhaps especially in the United States, we find ourselves tangled in new definitions of separation and individuation. There has been a restructuring, of our rhetoric as well as of certain religious ideologies, that expressly pits a woman's body against her fetus.

There is, these days, a tendency to conceive of the fetus as an entire person, and a litigious little person at that, with a warrior attitude and a long list of complaints that can be asserted against the madonna in question.

We've all read about negligence actions, criminal cases, child welfare cases, all involving fetuses still in utero. But the status of the fetus is no longer the most contentious part of the debate. It's moved further and further back in the developmental cycle.

Recently the Arizona court of appeals declined to rule that a set of cryogenically frozen fertilized eggs were "persons" for purposes of a wrongful death action, saying that such a designation was for the legislature. The lawsuit was brought by a couple who had sued the Mayo Clinic after its lab lost or possibly destroyed some of the eggs. The eggs were days old, still a clump of cells; nevertheless the court was careful to craft a special category for them: "pre-embryos."

Pre-embryonic status is thus not a biological designation but rather a new legal category, a way of dodging the political controversy engendered by those who believe embryos are calling out for rescue. As John Jacubczyk, president of Arizona Right to Life, stated the argument: "Life begins at fertilization."


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Patricia J. Williams, a professor of law at Columbia University and a member of the State Bar of California, writes The Nation column "Diary of a Mad Law Professor."

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Old Testiment say the soul enter with baby's first breath
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Nov 15, 2005 1:04 AM   
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We have to stop this craziness. In the red states it is impossible to get an abortion. Maybe the law will stay on the books, but there will be no clinics. Even so, there will be doctors who will quietly help those in trouble as long as there is a law. More than anything this is a move to stop sex for the unmarried and underaged. Fundamentalism is always about taking women's rights away. Keep her barefoot and pregnant the saying goes. Education maybe the only way to combat these terrorists of the female body.

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well-written
Posted by: ladyoracle on Nov 15, 2005 3:46 AM   
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While a bit flowery, I think this writer does a good job of putting a new spin on this conversation. Good analysis. Yes, I've been grading papers for hours :)

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Fundamentalists have gone too far
Posted by: nosylae on Nov 15, 2005 5:43 AM   
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I like how the Rev. Jesse Jackson put it: You can't save the fetus and then abandon the child. Even Pres. Jimmy Carter agrees. Fundamentalists have gone too far. Jesus might not have agreed with abortion but he would not like how so-called conservatives cut services to the poor and underpriviledged children of this country. They practically force poor and middle class women to have unwanted children that they cannot afford and then don't want to give them basic healthcare and good education so that families don't have to go on welfare. And then when they have to go on welfare and collect foodstamps, condervatives call them lazy. All in the name of God, too. What would Jesus do? He would throw the whole lot of them out of the temple like he did back in the day!

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Precious until they become people
Posted by: Nheduanna on Nov 15, 2005 5:55 AM   
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Ever notice how the precious embryos are given an almost holy status, but once they become children -- especially the children of the poor -- they're a burden on the corporate state? The NeoCons and Right-to-Lifers are much better with abstract people than real ones with opinions that differ from the Fundamentalist agenda. If every child is sacred, then protect them with health care and give them wonderous public schools in which to learn about REAL science, not some myth with an angry, big, white guy who wants women to be submissive recepticles for sperm donation.

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How could we expect anything different?
Posted by: Brucewxx on Nov 15, 2005 6:02 AM   
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How could we expect anything different from those people who think the Intelligent Design belongs to a science class? Those extremlists are as bad as Taleban and we don't hear much the fighting call from those "moderate" Christian leaders against those Christian extremlists, while everyone is calling the moderate Islam leaders to stand-up against their extremlists.

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The woman's right to choose.
Posted by: LouisFallert on Nov 15, 2005 10:13 AM   
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I am not sure if embryos in a petrie dish fall under right to choose or property, but either way, I don't see their destruction without permission by someone not the potential mother/owner as something that should be encouraged.

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Free Will
Posted by: jwg on Nov 15, 2005 10:57 AM   
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I have always had a problem with authority, and as a adult male of three score years have wrestled with the choice issue for years. Religious basic tenents say that humans have free will. That means we have been given the right to choose between good and evil as a condition of exclusion from the Garden of Eden (even though the neocons have invaded said place). God might have done this so we could think for ourselves, of course since he only talks to the religous right we cant' know for sure.

I also think most sane adults will agree that aborting a baby is not a good thing, and goes against the suggested rules of most religions, as are pre-marital sex, rape and incest. If we exclude choice through law or selection of supreme court justices, does that mean we no longer have free will.

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Sorry, no quippy title today
Posted by: iamdazey on Nov 15, 2005 11:03 AM   
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This article makes me wonder...

Do pro-life orgnizations stop to consider that, if every single egg ever created by a woman's body were to be fertilized, and if even half of the eggs resulted in live children, our planet would not be able to sustain those of us already living here?

I love kids (I have one of my own), but let's get real, folks.

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What guarantee?
Posted by: badkitty on Nov 15, 2005 11:47 AM   
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Every time I read or hear something about the rights of fertilized eggs, embryos, foetuses (foeti?), I wonder, what guarantee does anyone have that the fertilized egg, embryo, or foetus will result in a live birth? Babies (I guess I'm not too technical) can die anytime during the nine month gestation period, so I always wonder, these right-to-life people, they're psychic, right? They know that these unborn babies will live long enough to be born. If they're so psychic, why didn't they tell Bush (and he should have known also, since he seems to believe this) that this war would be a disaster? I'll pass on the fact that they're only interested in the unborn, if they cared about living children, we'd have national healthcare and better schools, and they'd show some concern for the welfare of children in poor countries around the world, not just the aborted babies.

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the glaring pardox of the right-to-lifers
Posted by: zooeyhall on Nov 15, 2005 2:17 PM   
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To echo a post above: the "right to life" people are a bunch of hypocrites.

No one can argue with "respect for human life", but these people are really a bunch of two-faced phonies:

1) they are for the death penalty--indeed they want to expand its application

2) in the Reagan years, they were for nuclear weapons and against any disarmament

3) many of them are the largest cheerleaders for the war in Iraq and the more generic "war on terror"

4) they are against national health care which would benefit poor babies/children, and social programs in general that would benefit newborns and children most

5) they are against such things as a liveable minimum wage that would help mothers to support themselves and their children

6) they support the killing of doctors--"I believe in the right to life---and I'll KILL you if you don't!"

7) They are against Darwin--yet they hold the most blatantly "survival of the fittest" attitudes when it comes to money and wealth.

They have a view sorta like: "This is a precious pre-born human being gift from God--but once he's born, if the little bastard gives us any trouble...."

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Why aren't the "pro-lifers" demanding that ALL fertilized eggs be implanted - or kill the doctor?
Posted by: janvdb on Nov 15, 2005 3:08 PM   
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Why is it OK for a couple to deliberately create ten or so "people" in petri dishes and then after they have used a couple to get the one child they want, to "choose" to toss the rest in a garbage bin -- while the couple who accidentally does that with ONE embryo via birth control failure followed by use of EC or early abortion is guilty of "murder?"

Either embryos are "human life" which all doctors, parents, judges and legislators must move heaven and earth to protect or they are NOT.

You can't have one standard for embryos deliberately created and frozen in fertility clinics and another for embryos involved in EC and abortion.

In Italy, the government has enacted strict controls on fertility clinics fertilizing eggs in vitro -- no more than three eggs can be extracted and fertilized at one time and all must be implanted. All which "take" must be carried to term.

Ridiculous, I think, but at least it is consistent with a "pro-life" ethos.

This weird gap in "pro-lifers'" position on different types of embryos reveals their actual agenda -- preventing women from using modern medical technology to emerge from our primordial disadvantaged status vis-a-vis men. Our vulnerable bodies are our Achille's Heels and that is where those who would keep women within old roles are attacking us.

According to the "pro-lifers:" It's OK to use medical technology to kill embryos as long as it doesn't also incidentally allow women to live free, independent, plannable, controllable adult lives (which include sex) like men do.

"Pro-lifers" must explain the difference in their attitude toward the deliberate creation and destruction of frozen embryos in fertility clinics and their attitude toward embryos accidentally created and destroyed via EC and abortion. If their agenda is not as suggested above, but is actually concern for embryos, then they must attack fertility clinics with the same vigor as they do abortion clinics.

If abortion is outlawed, in vitro fertilization resulting in "extra" embryos must also be outlawed.

Pro-choice activists should sue in vitro fertility clinics and doctors associated with Catholic hospitals which refuse patients abortions and EC on behalf of the Catholics' discarded "extra" embryos, just to draw attention to the absurdity of the "pro-life" position.

Jan VanDenBerg

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old and angry
Posted by: deboer on Nov 16, 2005 3:31 PM   
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If I read Exodus 21 vs 22 correctly, "God's own words of Law" a fetus who dies from injury is worth a sum of money decided by the husband. The rest of his law in this chapter calls for death for killing people.

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Terminology
Posted by: BlueTigress on Nov 17, 2005 8:11 AM   
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What cracks me up is when the Fetus People refer to embryos and fetuses as "pre-born". If you read the 'Dune' novels, "pre-born" refers to people who are shocked into consciousness in the womb and are born with the complete memory of everyone who contributed genetic material to them. They usually end up being evil because one person from their history takes over.

That said, this is kind of a silly argument because Fetus People are all wrapped up in theoretical life, but present them with the reality and they will tell you that it's the mother's fault for having sex in the first place.

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