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The subject I teach -- human ecology -- is a discipline that largely concerns population and resources. Over the past few years I have chosen to study oil, because it is the most important energy resource of the modern world.
Only 150 years ago, 85 percent of all work being accomplished in the U.S. economy was done by muscle power -- most of that by animal muscle, about a quarter of it by human muscle. Today, that percentage is effectively zero; virtually all of the physical work supporting our economy is done by fuel-fed machines. What caused this transformation? Quite simply, it was oil's comparative cheapness and versatility. Perhaps you have had the experience of running out of gas and having to push your car a few feet to get it off the road. That's hard work. Now imagine pushing your car 20 or 30 miles. That is the service performed for us by a single gallon of gasoline, for which we currently pay $2.65. That gallon of fuel is the energy equivalent of roughly six weeks of hard human labor.
It was inevitable that we would become addicted to this stuff, once we had developed a few tools for using it and for extracting it. Today petroleum provides 97 percent of our transportation fuel, and is also a feedstock for chemicals and plastics.
It is no exaggeration to say that we live in a world that runs on oil.
However, oil is a finite resource. Therefore the peaking and decline of world oil production are inevitable events -- and on that there is scarcely any debate; only the timing is uncertain. Forecast dates for the peak range from this year to 2035.
The peaking phenomenon itself has been observed again and again in individual oil fields and in entire producing nations. One of the first countries to hit its peak was the U.S.. During the 1930s and '40s, half the world’s production of petroleum came from Texas and Oklahoma. However, U.S. production reached its all-time maximum in 1970 and has been declining ever since. Currently the U.S. imports 60 percent of its oil.
Concern over the likelihood of an impending world peak has increased markedly in recent months as global spare production capacity has dwindled and as prices have achieved what seems to be a new baseline of over $50 per barrel.
Evidence that we are approaching peak includes the following:
- ExxonMobil documents that global oil discoveries peaked in 1964. Declining rates of discovery are therefore a long-established trend.
- Chevron notes in recent advertisements that 33 of 48 nations are in decline. We have thus seen the peaking of production in a majority of individual nations, including some important producers such as Indonesia, Norway, Great Britain, and Venezuela. Mexico will reach its peak within the next two years.
- As noted by the International Energy Agency, there is evidence that a substantial amount of "proven reserves" in OPEC countries are illusory, the result of a scramble for market share within a cartel that allocates export quotas based on stated reserves.
With regard to this last point it should be noted that reserves figures, even when accurate, have historically given little warning of peaking. The U.S. instance is once again emblematic: in 1970, U.S. oil reserves were higher than ever; so were production rates. But only a year later, American production began its terminal decline. The study of discovery rates and depletion rates gives us a much better idea of when the global peak is likely to occur.
Optimistic estimates of future discovery and production issued by Cambridge Energy Research Associates and the U.S. Geological Survey have been criticized by several analysts. The optimists have generally failed to anticipate peaks, first in the U.S. and repeatedly in the case of other nations around the world.
This morning the International Energy Agency (IEA) issued a statement saying that the world will have sufficient energy supplies for the next quarter century. However, the statement noted the necessity of the investment of $17 trillion in the supply train in order to maintain sufficiency for so long. Also, the IEA anticipates Saudi Arabian production expanding to 18 million barrels per day by 2030—a figure considerably higher than the maximum possible rate of production from that country cited not long ago by Sadad al Husseini, the recently retired head of exploration for Saudi Aramco.
Expressions of concern have been voiced by corporations, prominent organizations, and knowledgeable individuals, including ChevronTexaco, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Volvo, Ford Motor Company Executive Vice President Mark Fields, the Chinese Offshore Oil Corporation’s chief economist, and numerous petroleum scientists and oil industry analysts.
The question immediately arises: Will alternative sources be able to make up the difference?
Alternative sources often discussed include oil sands from Canada, shale oil in Colorado, coal-to-liquids, gas-to-liquids, nuclear, and renewables such as solar and wind. Each of these will require immense investment and well over a decade of intense effort in order to produce substantial quantities of energy to offset declines from fossil fuels. And in most cases, rates of production are and will be constrained by non-economic factors. Take the oil sands, for example. Currently Canada produces one million barrels of synthetic crude per day from that source. There is expectation of two mb/d by 2010, and perhaps as much as four mb/d by 2025. We are unlikely to see higher numbers than that even with extraordinary capital investment, because the production process requires large amounts of natural gas and fresh water, both in short supply in Alberta. Moreover, according to the IEA, the world needs six mb/d of new production capacity each year (and that number is growing) to meet new demand and to offset depletion from existing fields.
How about increased efficiency -- surely that can offset any potential oil supply problems. In principle, yes, but most efficiency strategies will likewise require significant lead times. For example, we have the technology now to enable all of us who own cars to be driving ones that get up to 100 miles per gallon. If we were, that would obviously save an enormous amount of fuel. But how long would it take to implement that strategy? It would certainly take four or five years for Detroit to begin producing such high-efficiency cars in large numbers.
Then, not everyone buys a new car every year. In fact, it takes about 15 years to change out nearly the entire U.S. car and truck fleet. So, altogether, it would take about 20 years to fully implement this particular efficiency strategy.
Will the market be able to respond quickly enough to forestall serious economic, social, and political impacts? It is often said that the Stone Age did not end for lack of stones, nor will the Oil Age end because we run out of petroleum -- but instead because we find a cheaper source of energy. However, as we have just seen, that cheaper source of energy has yet to be identified.
Early this year a report was released, prepared for the U.S. Department of Energy by a team led by Robert L. Hirsch, who has a distinguished background in the oil industry and is a senior energy analyst at SAIC and the Rand Corporation. The Hirsch Report (titled "Peaking of World Oil Production: Impacts, Mitigation and Risk Management") concludes that price signals will arrive at least ten years too late to enable a gentle, market-led transition away from oil to other energy sources. The report describes Peak Oil as an "unprecedented" challenge for modern societies, and describes economic, social, and political risks if preparation is not undertaken soon enough, or on adequate scale.
Let me read you a few sentences from the Hirsch Report:
The problems associated with world oil production peaking will not be temporary, and past "energy crisis" experience will provide relatively little guidance. The challenge of oil peaking deserves immediate, serious attention, if risks are to be fully understood and mitigation begun on a timely basis. Mitigation will require a minimum of a decade of intense, expensive effort, because the scale of liquid fuels mitigation is inherently extremely large. Intervention by governments will be required, because the economic and social implications of oil peaking would otherwise be chaotic.The report also concludes that the costs of preparing too late for global oil peak would far outweigh those of preparing too early.
The worst-case scenario for the impact of global production peak is very bad indeed. As I mentioned earlier, we are extremely dependent on oil for transportation, agriculture, plastics, and chemicals. In each area, we are already seeing serious impacts resulting from current prices in the $60-per-barrel range. For example,
- Currently tens of thousands of farmers are agonizing over whether they can afford to plant next year’s crop, given high fuel and fertilizer costs.
- Chemicals and plastics industries are already hard hit: In the chemistry industry alone, more than 100 plants have closed and more than 100,000 jobs have been lost just this year.
- In the airline industry, 40 percent of revenues go to pay for jet fuel; most U.S. air carriers are already in bankruptcy or nearing that situation.
- Home heating costs are projected to be 40-50% higher this winter than last.
As prices go even higher, and with actual scarcities of fuel, people will experience difficulties commuting, and the maintenance of our far-flung food distribution systems may become problematic.
On top of all this, oil is a strategic resource: as supplies become scarce, there is increasing likelihood of international conflict.
To avoid the worst-case scenario we must begin today to reduce our dependence on oil. The effort must have top priority. It must focus primarily on reducing demand, and only secondarily on producing large quantities of alternative transportation fuels.
A global Oil Depletion Protocol would reduce price volatility and competition for remaining supplies, while encouraging nations to move quickly to wean themselves from petroleum. In essence, the Protocol would be an agreement whereby producing nations would plan to produce less oil with each passing year (and that will not be so difficult, because few are still capable of maintaining their current rates in any case); and importing nations would agree to import less each year. That may seem a bitter pill to swallow.
However, without a Protocol -- essentially a system for global oil rationing -- we will see extremely volatile prices that will undermine the economies of all nations, and all industries and businesses. We will also see increasing international competition for oil likely leading to conflict; and if a general oil war were to break out, everyone would lose. Given the alternatives, the Protocol clearly seems preferable.
National governments, local municipalities, corporations, and private individuals will all need to contribute to the effort to wean ourselves from oil, an effort that must quickly expand to include a reduction in dependence on other fossil fuels as well.
All of this will constitute an immense challenge for our species in the coming century. We will meet that challenge successfully only if we begin immediately.
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1. Creativity: If the primary qualification for a POP is that it maintains the world's current power structure, then how many good ideas and plans would be passed over simply because they had the gall to suggest that our government/economy could be run differently. Their bias would limit their ability to creatively deal with these problems.
2. Symptom vs. Sickness: In my humble opinion, the main reason that the "powers that be" can't be relied upon to formulate a solid POP is that they are part of the problem! Our current distribution of political/economic power (and all the theories, beliefs, and assumptions that go along with it) is largely to blame for the position that we now find ourselves in. This is same as expecting big tobacco companies to come up with a serious plan that will ultimately get everyone to stop smoking. It won't happen because people smoking is the source of the tobacco companies' power. They won't voluntarily slit their own throats.
A serious, reliable, realistic POP is going to have to be the product of widespread grassroots input; and the end result will have to include the decentralization of political/economic power. Any thing else will be (to quote someone wiser than myself) "a prelude to a tragedy, a farce, or possibly both".
- Mike Lorenz
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Posted by: Colin on Nov 14, 2005 7:51 AM
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However, it's also interesting to put that resource into context and, from there, you can see exactly what's happening and, to an extent, why. I'm not talking about what's happening in political terms but why it is that oil's so valuable.
Everyone knows that oil is the bi-product of life, mainly plant life, slowly rotting away, trapped underground and turned into the poisenous sludge we've all come to depend on. But - if that's the case, what does it make oil to us?
It makes it not much more than a battery. Basically, in that black goo, you have hundreds of thousands of years of the suns energy, trapped and locked away, waiting for someone to unlock it. Obviously, like a battery, it's energy will dry up. And, from then, all our battery powered toys will dry up too.
Personally speaking, I have an awful lot of battery powered gizmos lying around my house. The funny thing? Because I know the batteries are going to slowly run out, I do what I can to try and extend their lives. The same is true of oil but, unless we're prepared to wait another few hundred millenia for more oil to 're-charge', it could be a looooong time before our toys work properly again.
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check out Amory Lovins. He is today's Bucky Fuller. I met him last night. He has it worked out, for real. Very brilliant fellow.
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It is too bad that enough humans couldn't foresee this and ante up the will to act. There are some like Paul Ehrlich, Garrett Harden, William Vogt, Ken Boulding, Fairfield Osborn, Thomas Malthus and others who warned us about overpopulation for the past 200 years. Apparently, no one paid sufficient attention or accepted their logic. Bush continues to withhold family planning funding and the Popes are consistent fools as are the many humans who continue to build mini mansions to heat and SUV's to drive.
It is not only that we are about to be short on fossil fuels, the problem is we are way long on population! We also appear short on foresight and wisdom. Nature will take care of the problem rather ruthlessly as nature always does. A crash is likely coming to the planet nearest you. Intelligent design as applied to humans is obviously invalid.
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Posted by: MT512 on Nov 14, 2005 10:59 AM
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The oil companies and their wholly-owned subsidiaries (like Bush and most of our politicians) are the Baghdad Bob of peak oil.
If our leaders tell us to, in effect, run for our lives, then they will not be able to hoard as much of what matters for themselves. And most of us little folks eagerly accept their good news that there is nothing to worry about. Our hypnotic ignorance will continue until the wheels fall off.
We should all be preparing for this end-of-oil. The oil barons are doing exactly that by making as much money as they possibly can while they still can. That way, you and I will be trying to grow food in backyards, and they will have their own farms and vast fuel reserves and private armies to protect it all. If we're lucky, they'll pay us food to farm their land or to shoot the hungry people who dig up carrots in the moonlight.
They know it's coming. They smell what they're shoveling. They're doing everything they can to ensure that when it all goes to hell, they win and you lose.
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That said, I think we've got to take the actions ourselves and hope others will follow our lead. I'll suggest a few to start it off, please add your own ideas!
- ride a bike to work and errands (not only saves your gas, gets you in the habit, but provides an important example for others)
- make fuel economy a top issue in your next car purchase (and don't even look at an SUV, even hybrid ones suffer from horrible aerodynamics)
- repair things first, don't just replace them
- do it yourself in general. If you're the one doing the painting you'll probably be more thoughtful about waste, and the self suffiency skills could be important when the unemployment peak follows the oil peak.
- pay off all your debts, and your home loan. The first ones to suffer will be those with the most debt, the banks won't be cutting any slack or giving any new loans when the economy tanks. My recollection of the stories of the Great Depression were that a lot of people who owned things outright got through it OK, people who lived paycheck to paycheck spent their days on bread lines or begging. You can bet the robber barons are busy planning their strategy for snatching up bargains in the coming depression.
- your idea goes here!
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As we go through what chaos scientists call a catastrophe bifurcation, a portion of our world is splitting off from the conventional, dying world, and we're trying to birth a newer, better world. (I'm not predicting that the birth will be successful; I'm only describing an on-going event.) This coming world is seen as a "catastrophe" by those with a vested interest in the old regime, and they are resisting it. It's the nature of this split that the whole of America will never embrace conservation, POPs, or any other sensible program. Ain't gonna happen.
One of the interesting things about the world we are trying to birth is that things like energy will be MUCH more decentralized than is currently the case. So while we get the politicians and the oil/auto/electricity industries to establish some kind of POP, the grassroots will be building a new, decentralized infrastructure that will ultimately have little to do with said industries. The form this can take will be up to us. There are numerous books and websites out there with some terrific ideas. But the bottom line (to use that phrase) is that MobilExxon, et al should not be allowed to rule our lives, buy our political servants, and essentially decide if we live or die. The only way to take power away from the elite is to bankrupt these bastards. And the best way to do that is to do without them. "Another world is possible."
Incidentally, about Amory Lovins: While I personally like the guy and agree that he an interesting thinker, Lovins is basically a guy who is happy to see the current power relations remain. His plans have always had the major powers still in place, except they will now be purveyors of hydrogen and solar panels instead of oil. Lovins is a high-tech, corporation-loving capitalist through and through. If you are satisfied with continuing to be a wage slave for a privileged elite, then Lovins is your man. If you'd like a better and/or a more spiritually grounded social order, then I suggest you take his core technology ideas and apply them in a different way.
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2. Enact Tax on oil products used for transportation
3. Use funds to:
a. subsidize renewable energy infrastructure
1a. Home Photovoltiac units (ala California)
2a. Wind Turbine generation capacity
3a. Solar generation capacity
4a. Nuclear breeder reactors with a closed fuel cycle
5a. Cold ocean water temperature inversion generators
(in favorable regions)
4. Tax moratorium on renewable energy revenue
5. Re-enact agressive CAFE standards
6. Tax moratorium on Hybrid car sales
7. Require all Hybrid vehicles to have a plug in option.
8. Require all Hybrids to be capable of running 'electric only' for 50 miles (scale up with time).
9. Nationally fund research and development for non-fossil fuel based hydrogen fuel cells.
10. Nationally fund research and development for efficient electrolysis of water to hydrogen.
11. Department of Energy is enacting arm
12. Set a goal for all new car sales to be electric and/or hydrogen (non-fossil fuel based) in 20 years.
13. Develop home electric vehicle recharge stations (gov't subsidies to developers).
14. Develop a national stockpile of critical petroleum feedstocks for raw materials (chemicals, plastics, and fertilizer)
15. Funding for coal gasification for feedstocks only
16. Funding for gas to oil tech for feedstocks only
17. Funding for oil shale extraction for feedstocks only
18. Funding for thermal depolymerization to develop petroleum from biomass and waste for feedstocks
19. Funding for non-petroleum based synthetics
20. Subsidies and campaigning for energy efficiency in all aspects of technology and society.
20. Overall goal should be increased energy supply, versatilaty of the fuel chain (numerous sources -- non fossil), immediate and sustained action, short term progress (5 year), medium term (20 year), non reliance on fossil fuels for transportation, and long term (30-50 year) non reliance on fossil fuels for chemical, raw material, and fertilizer feedstock.
21. Secondary goal should be increasingly available, inexpensive and abundant energy for the U.S. economy. Excess energy can be sold as a natural resource.
The crisis can be mitigated. It requires political will and vision.
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Peak Oil is not only a potential calamity, it's also a unique opportunity to revision how we might live our lives, free of the tyranny of automobiles. Given a choice between pissing away my life (or even losing it) in my eco-friendly, hydrogen-hybrid, soy-bodied wonder car versus walking or riding my bike a short distance along a car-free, tree-shaded path to the local food coop and general store, I know which one I'd choose. And just imagine your neighborhood where the streets are off-limits to cars (except maybe for a few designated hours a week, for store deliveries and such) and the whole street becomes a park for you and your kids and your neighbors. (For cities with subways, I've read about a great scheme wherein special subway cars are used for commercial deliveries, eliminating most truck traffic!)
Let's dream the life we want to live, not just scheme ways to keep the current party going.
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1. Creativity: If the primary qualification for a POP is that it maintains the world's current power structure, then how many good ideas and plans would be passed over simply because they had the gall to suggest that our government/economy could be run differently. Their bias would limit their ability to creatively deal with these problems.
2. Symptom vs. Sickness: In my humble opinion, the main reason that the "powers that be" can't be relied upon to formulate a solid POP is that they are part of the problem! Our current distribution of political/economic power (and all the theories, beliefs, and assumptions that go along with it) is largely to blame for the position that we now find ourselves in. This is same as expecting big tobacco companies to come up with a serious plan that will ultimately get everyone to stop smoking. It won't happen because people smoking is the source of the tobacco companies' power. They won't voluntarily slit their own throats.
A serious, reliable, realistic POP is going to have to be the product of widespread grassroots input; and the end result will have to include the decentralization of political/economic power. Any thing else will be (to quote someone wiser than myself) "a prelude to a tragedy, a farce, or possibly both".
- Mike Lorenz
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Posted by: Colin on Nov 14, 2005 7:51 AM
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However, it's also interesting to put that resource into context and, from there, you can see exactly what's happening and, to an extent, why. I'm not talking about what's happening in political terms but why it is that oil's so valuable.
Everyone knows that oil is the bi-product of life, mainly plant life, slowly rotting away, trapped underground and turned into the poisenous sludge we've all come to depend on. But - if that's the case, what does it make oil to us?
It makes it not much more than a battery. Basically, in that black goo, you have hundreds of thousands of years of the suns energy, trapped and locked away, waiting for someone to unlock it. Obviously, like a battery, it's energy will dry up. And, from then, all our battery powered toys will dry up too.
Personally speaking, I have an awful lot of battery powered gizmos lying around my house. The funny thing? Because I know the batteries are going to slowly run out, I do what I can to try and extend their lives. The same is true of oil but, unless we're prepared to wait another few hundred millenia for more oil to 're-charge', it could be a looooong time before our toys work properly again.
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check out Amory Lovins. He is today's Bucky Fuller. I met him last night. He has it worked out, for real. Very brilliant fellow.
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It is too bad that enough humans couldn't foresee this and ante up the will to act. There are some like Paul Ehrlich, Garrett Harden, William Vogt, Ken Boulding, Fairfield Osborn, Thomas Malthus and others who warned us about overpopulation for the past 200 years. Apparently, no one paid sufficient attention or accepted their logic. Bush continues to withhold family planning funding and the Popes are consistent fools as are the many humans who continue to build mini mansions to heat and SUV's to drive.
It is not only that we are about to be short on fossil fuels, the problem is we are way long on population! We also appear short on foresight and wisdom. Nature will take care of the problem rather ruthlessly as nature always does. A crash is likely coming to the planet nearest you. Intelligent design as applied to humans is obviously invalid.
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Posted by: MT512 on Nov 14, 2005 10:59 AM
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The oil companies and their wholly-owned subsidiaries (like Bush and most of our politicians) are the Baghdad Bob of peak oil.
If our leaders tell us to, in effect, run for our lives, then they will not be able to hoard as much of what matters for themselves. And most of us little folks eagerly accept their good news that there is nothing to worry about. Our hypnotic ignorance will continue until the wheels fall off.
We should all be preparing for this end-of-oil. The oil barons are doing exactly that by making as much money as they possibly can while they still can. That way, you and I will be trying to grow food in backyards, and they will have their own farms and vast fuel reserves and private armies to protect it all. If we're lucky, they'll pay us food to farm their land or to shoot the hungry people who dig up carrots in the moonlight.
They know it's coming. They smell what they're shoveling. They're doing everything they can to ensure that when it all goes to hell, they win and you lose.
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Posted by: ScottP on Nov 14, 2005 11:14 AM
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That said, I think we've got to take the actions ourselves and hope others will follow our lead. I'll suggest a few to start it off, please add your own ideas!
- ride a bike to work and errands (not only saves your gas, gets you in the habit, but provides an important example for others)
- make fuel economy a top issue in your next car purchase (and don't even look at an SUV, even hybrid ones suffer from horrible aerodynamics)
- repair things first, don't just replace them
- do it yourself in general. If you're the one doing the painting you'll probably be more thoughtful about waste, and the self suffiency skills could be important when the unemployment peak follows the oil peak.
- pay off all your debts, and your home loan. The first ones to suffer will be those with the most debt, the banks won't be cutting any slack or giving any new loans when the economy tanks. My recollection of the stories of the Great Depression were that a lot of people who owned things outright got through it OK, people who lived paycheck to paycheck spent their days on bread lines or begging. You can bet the robber barons are busy planning their strategy for snatching up bargains in the coming depression.
- your idea goes here!
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Posted by: birdman on Nov 14, 2005 1:04 PM
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As we go through what chaos scientists call a catastrophe bifurcation, a portion of our world is splitting off from the conventional, dying world, and we're trying to birth a newer, better world. (I'm not predicting that the birth will be successful; I'm only describing an on-going event.) This coming world is seen as a "catastrophe" by those with a vested interest in the old regime, and they are resisting it. It's the nature of this split that the whole of America will never embrace conservation, POPs, or any other sensible program. Ain't gonna happen.
One of the interesting things about the world we are trying to birth is that things like energy will be MUCH more decentralized than is currently the case. So while we get the politicians and the oil/auto/electricity industries to establish some kind of POP, the grassroots will be building a new, decentralized infrastructure that will ultimately have little to do with said industries. The form this can take will be up to us. There are numerous books and websites out there with some terrific ideas. But the bottom line (to use that phrase) is that MobilExxon, et al should not be allowed to rule our lives, buy our political servants, and essentially decide if we live or die. The only way to take power away from the elite is to bankrupt these bastards. And the best way to do that is to do without them. "Another world is possible."
Incidentally, about Amory Lovins: While I personally like the guy and agree that he an interesting thinker, Lovins is basically a guy who is happy to see the current power relations remain. His plans have always had the major powers still in place, except they will now be purveyors of hydrogen and solar panels instead of oil. Lovins is a high-tech, corporation-loving capitalist through and through. If you are satisfied with continuing to be a wage slave for a privileged elite, then Lovins is your man. If you'd like a better and/or a more spiritually grounded social order, then I suggest you take his core technology ideas and apply them in a different way.
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Posted by: rwy on Nov 14, 2005 1:20 PM
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Posted by: Rob the Scribbler on Nov 14, 2005 6:10 PM
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2. Enact Tax on oil products used for transportation
3. Use funds to:
a. subsidize renewable energy infrastructure
1a. Home Photovoltiac units (ala California)
2a. Wind Turbine generation capacity
3a. Solar generation capacity
4a. Nuclear breeder reactors with a closed fuel cycle
5a. Cold ocean water temperature inversion generators
(in favorable regions)
4. Tax moratorium on renewable energy revenue
5. Re-enact agressive CAFE standards
6. Tax moratorium on Hybrid car sales
7. Require all Hybrid vehicles to have a plug in option.
8. Require all Hybrids to be capable of running 'electric only' for 50 miles (scale up with time).
9. Nationally fund research and development for non-fossil fuel based hydrogen fuel cells.
10. Nationally fund research and development for efficient electrolysis of water to hydrogen.
11. Department of Energy is enacting arm
12. Set a goal for all new car sales to be electric and/or hydrogen (non-fossil fuel based) in 20 years.
13. Develop home electric vehicle recharge stations (gov't subsidies to developers).
14. Develop a national stockpile of critical petroleum feedstocks for raw materials (chemicals, plastics, and fertilizer)
15. Funding for coal gasification for feedstocks only
16. Funding for gas to oil tech for feedstocks only
17. Funding for oil shale extraction for feedstocks only
18. Funding for thermal depolymerization to develop petroleum from biomass and waste for feedstocks
19. Funding for non-petroleum based synthetics
20. Subsidies and campaigning for energy efficiency in all aspects of technology and society.
20. Overall goal should be increased energy supply, versatilaty of the fuel chain (numerous sources -- non fossil), immediate and sustained action, short term progress (5 year), medium term (20 year), non reliance on fossil fuels for transportation, and long term (30-50 year) non reliance on fossil fuels for chemical, raw material, and fertilizer feedstock.
21. Secondary goal should be increasingly available, inexpensive and abundant energy for the U.S. economy. Excess energy can be sold as a natural resource.
The crisis can be mitigated. It requires political will and vision.
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Posted by: birdman on Nov 15, 2005 7:10 AM
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Peak Oil is not only a potential calamity, it's also a unique opportunity to revision how we might live our lives, free of the tyranny of automobiles. Given a choice between pissing away my life (or even losing it) in my eco-friendly, hydrogen-hybrid, soy-bodied wonder car versus walking or riding my bike a short distance along a car-free, tree-shaded path to the local food coop and general store, I know which one I'd choose. And just imagine your neighborhood where the streets are off-limits to cars (except maybe for a few designated hours a week, for store deliveries and such) and the whole street becomes a park for you and your kids and your neighbors. (For cities with subways, I've read about a great scheme wherein special subway cars are used for commercial deliveries, eliminating most truck traffic!)
Let's dream the life we want to live, not just scheme ways to keep the current party going.
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