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Roche Must Share Its Avian Flu Cure
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Today the statue goes unnoticed. Visitors who do stop by probably wonder why the Department of Commerce is home to an equestrian statue. (Or perhaps they are simply dismayed at the sight of a bigger-than-life naked man in George W. Bush's Washington.) In contemporary America, the statue's message is so out of place as to be virtually incomprehensible.
All of which brings me to the avian flu. If ever there was a time for government to step in and restrain unbridled corporate greed for the social good, this is it. A consensus exists on the basic facts:
- The H5N1 flu strain has infected more than 100 people worldwide. About half of infected people die.
- The disease is currently transmitted from birds to humans. Migratory birds have spread the disease from Asia to Romania, Turkey, Greece and parts of Russia. It is expected to arrive soon in the Middle East and Africa.
- Scientists have recently discovered that the 1918 influenza pandemic -- which killed more than 50 million people worldwide -- originated in birds and then mutated to where it could be transmitted from humans. It is expected the H5N1 flu virus will experience such a mutation at some point, which could lead to a very rapid spread of the disease.
- The only currently available cure for avian flu is a drug called Tamiflu. Roche, the giant Swiss pharmaceutical company, owns the patent. The company concedes it will be several years before it can produce sufficient amounts to deal with the looming crisis. But it refuses to allow other companies to add to the productive capacity.
One would think that with such a clear and present danger to their populations, governments would quickly require Roche to license the drug's production. One would be wrong. Bush's plan to combat the flu, unveiled this week, recognizes the looming danger, but then simply asks Congress for billions to pay Roche for any drugs the company might make available. The plan lacks a critical element: a way to accelerate production of the drug.
A threat from several members of Congress to do just this prompted Roche, on Oct. 25, to reluctantly agree to open talks with four generic firms to discuss allowing them to manufacture the drug. It is unclear when or even if these talks will result in increased production. Moreover, generic firms are in the business of encapsulating existing medicines. It is unclear whether they have the capacity to make new medicines, especially given the complexity of manufacturing Tamiflu.
One Indian company has already said it will soon be manufacturing Tamiflu without a Roche license. But because it lacks the license it will not be able to export the medicine to the United States. Recently, Australian health officials argued that the country has the moral responsibility to begin mass production of Tamiflu, with or without Roche's permission.
The pharmaceutical industry, already under serious pressure because of its exorbitant prices, high profits and unwillingness to produce essential medicines in other areas, may well not want Roche to become its poster child. The company has a long and unsavory record of social irresponsibility.
In the case of Tamiflu, Roche didn't even develop the drug; U.S. biotech firm Gilead did. Nine years ago, Gilead signed a development and licensing agreement with Roche. It is currently suing Roche, claiming that Roche has been negligent in its manufacture of Tamiflu, which has led to a series of product recalls.
In the 1970s and again in the 1990s, Roche was involved in price-fixing scandals. In the '90s it was fined more than $500 million by U.S. and European governments. Roche has also been singled out by public health advocates for obstructing AIDS-devastated African countries from gaining access to vital medicines. It was one of a number of pharmaceutical companies that threatened to take South Africa to court to overturn that country's initiative to produce cheap copies of expensive brand-name anti-HIV drugs.
If ever there were a case in which private property rights need to be subordinated to the public good, this is it. A life-threatening disease that may, by all scientific evidence, infect tens of millions of people has only one existing cure. Yet the company which produces that cure refuses to allow sufficient quantities of the drug to be produced.
If an individual were suspected of planning to release a disease-laden vial in the United States, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI and the CIA would spring into action. They would (and have) seize the individual and put him into solitary confinement without access to a lawyer. Torture would even be deemed acceptable. But when a private corporation knowingly, willfully and consciously refuses to make available a drug that would stop a disease that will soon enter our borders via natural transmission paths, we feel powerless.
Apparently, the first situation rises to the level of a national security matter; the second, in the parlance of modern-day Washington, is a business matter. In the first case we can pull out all the stops to save lives, civil liberties be damned. In the second case we must tread very carefully. The sanctity of private property and an unfettered marketplace trumps our desire to avoid massive injury.
I'm too old to understand the rationale in all of this. But then again, I'm also someone who always stops at 14th and Constitution Avenue to marvel at that statue and recall a time when we believed that maximizing the public good was government's highest goal.
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SENATE BILL 1873 BANS DRUG & VACCINE DAMAGE CLAIMS
The Flu Shot Scam
The Flu Season Campaign Begins
Bird Flu Hype
Evidence that bird flu is already resistant to Tamiflu
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Posted by: Colin on Nov 3, 2005 3:34 AM
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Maybe he thinks it will arrive via Fed-Ex.
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Posted by: Pepper on Nov 3, 2005 6:00 AM
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All this latest legislation is for the purposes of putting the new dictatorship in place legally by stripping away all of our protections and making it a crime if we fight back. That is what is going on. Mass vaccines will result in civil war as many will refuse to accept vaccination including myself. They will have a real problem on their hands if they don't get the guns first.
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As another poster mentioned earlier, Tamiflu absolutely is NOT a "cure" for avian flu. There's no evidence that it will even be effective in the slightest against this particular virus.
There is plenty to be concerned about as the government and media do their best to spread undue panic over this as yet non-existent pandemic, but Roche's corporate greed is, for now, not high on the list.
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Posted by: tommyboy on Nov 3, 2005 6:52 AM
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The Western world is in a race to exterminate the Asian masses. Asians are in a race to beat the West to the punch. The world cannot support the present population, nevermind a growing one. The criminals in the west have decided to wipe out the African population first and then Asians. Do not be amazed that multiple forms of new "Flu" strains sprout up in the next 20 years. Both sides are testing and refining their Bio weapons.
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-helps the virus pass through the GI tract walls
-helps the viruse to bud from the hose cell after infection
Tamiflu isn't a cure for the virus what it results in is (sometimes) a milder or shorter flu and that is far from this cure everyone assumes it is. This worry over tamiflu is just panic in my opinion.
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Posted by: Smiggsy on Nov 3, 2005 8:13 AM
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Live in constant good health (exercise, eat well & avoid stress, etc) & don't put yourself in any high-risk contageous situations. Prevention (as always) is the best cure - Though I don't know how this would apply in a reactive situation in the case of a global outbreak of a deadly virus.
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I read in Under the Rader the other day that Rumsfeld owns substatial stock in Roch, and is in a position to make a fortune off this "panic", does anyone know the validity of this story?
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Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Nov 3, 2005 9:49 AM
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And if the threat WERE credible, there's be a diplomatic crash program to innoculate South Asian poultry workers with the human protecting vaccine ... if not the poultry protecting one which has also existed for several years.
However what if the fear isn't the Avian Flu in the Vietnamese poultry yards, but the 1918 Spanish Influenza in American biological warfare laboratories?
It's no secret, the bug exists, and responds to Tamiflu.
cut and paste:
http://discuss.agonist.org/yabbse/index.php?
board=6;action=display;threadid=20498
as one line
If you don't trust a single blog entry ... though this on has pretty good provenence ... try a google of your own on [1918 +"spanish influenza" +"avian flu" +reconsitituted +"department of defense" +"tamifu" ... you'll find plenty more.
The point is: the bug exists, and the army has it. Now,as the "Biological Warfare" unit of Freshman ROTC class teaches -- a useful biological weapon needs two components. There has to be a practical way of infecting the enemy ... and there has to be a way of protecting your own forces and possibly your home front.
If the Administration's plan goes forward ... both conditions will be met within a matter of months.
Imagine how useful against the Insurgency in central Iraq.
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» Conspiracy.
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» H5N1
Posted by: AdamSelene11726
» Ok, the tin-foil hat comment was over the top.
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» Significance of Tamiflu
Posted by: AdamSelene11726
» Johnson!, Nixon!, and Judy Miller! and your point on Tamiflu?
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» RE: Johnson!, Nixon!, and Judy Miller! and your point on Tamiflu?
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» Why go bio? We've got conventional superiority.
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» con't
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Posted by: emptyground on Nov 3, 2005 4:32 PM
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vaccines=danger to your health + profits for Big Pharm.
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Under our current system, an inventor who is granted a patent on an improvement of another inventor's patented technology is prohibited from commercializing his patented improvement if the holder of the underlying patent refuses to license it!!!
HOW, may I ask, does that "promote the progress of science" as required by the US Constitution?!!
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» Oversimplifications aside -- the patent system works pretty well.
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All is fair in love and war - and business, especially when it is that of the U.S. Is there any requirement for members of the Administration to declare their investments? Should there be?
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SENATE BILL 1873 BANS DRUG & VACCINE DAMAGE CLAIMS
The Flu Shot Scam
The Flu Season Campaign Begins
Bird Flu Hype
Evidence that bird flu is already resistant to Tamiflu
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Posted by: Colin on Nov 3, 2005 3:34 AM
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Maybe he thinks it will arrive via Fed-Ex.
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Posted by: Pepper on Nov 3, 2005 6:00 AM
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All this latest legislation is for the purposes of putting the new dictatorship in place legally by stripping away all of our protections and making it a crime if we fight back. That is what is going on. Mass vaccines will result in civil war as many will refuse to accept vaccination including myself. They will have a real problem on their hands if they don't get the guns first.
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» RE: This author is being bambozzled!
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» The 1918 Flu
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» RE: The 1918 Flu. An extinct organism! Returned to earth by the Department of Defence!!
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Posted by: room34 on Nov 3, 2005 6:46 AM
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As another poster mentioned earlier, Tamiflu absolutely is NOT a "cure" for avian flu. There's no evidence that it will even be effective in the slightest against this particular virus.
There is plenty to be concerned about as the government and media do their best to spread undue panic over this as yet non-existent pandemic, but Roche's corporate greed is, for now, not high on the list.
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» You're right ... I am so tired of 'our guys' saying
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Posted by: tommyboy on Nov 3, 2005 6:52 AM
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The Western world is in a race to exterminate the Asian masses. Asians are in a race to beat the West to the punch. The world cannot support the present population, nevermind a growing one. The criminals in the west have decided to wipe out the African population first and then Asians. Do not be amazed that multiple forms of new "Flu" strains sprout up in the next 20 years. Both sides are testing and refining their Bio weapons.
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Posted by: Guah on Nov 3, 2005 7:16 AM
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-helps the virus pass through the GI tract walls
-helps the viruse to bud from the hose cell after infection
Tamiflu isn't a cure for the virus what it results in is (sometimes) a milder or shorter flu and that is far from this cure everyone assumes it is. This worry over tamiflu is just panic in my opinion.
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Posted by: Smiggsy on Nov 3, 2005 8:13 AM
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Live in constant good health (exercise, eat well & avoid stress, etc) & don't put yourself in any high-risk contageous situations. Prevention (as always) is the best cure - Though I don't know how this would apply in a reactive situation in the case of a global outbreak of a deadly virus.
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» RE: asy money for big pharma!
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Posted by: Andie927 on Nov 3, 2005 8:52 AM
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I read in Under the Rader the other day that Rumsfeld owns substatial stock in Roch, and is in a position to make a fortune off this "panic", does anyone know the validity of this story?
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» RE: Panic for Profit?
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» RE: Panic for Profit?
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» RE: Pepper where did you read that?
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
» RE: Panic for Profit?
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Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Nov 3, 2005 9:49 AM
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And if the threat WERE credible, there's be a diplomatic crash program to innoculate South Asian poultry workers with the human protecting vaccine ... if not the poultry protecting one which has also existed for several years.
However what if the fear isn't the Avian Flu in the Vietnamese poultry yards, but the 1918 Spanish Influenza in American biological warfare laboratories?
It's no secret, the bug exists, and responds to Tamiflu.
cut and paste:
http://discuss.agonist.org/yabbse/index.php?
board=6;action=display;threadid=20498
as one line
If you don't trust a single blog entry ... though this on has pretty good provenence ... try a google of your own on [1918 +"spanish influenza" +"avian flu" +reconsitituted +"department of defense" +"tamifu" ... you'll find plenty more.
The point is: the bug exists, and the army has it. Now,as the "Biological Warfare" unit of Freshman ROTC class teaches -- a useful biological weapon needs two components. There has to be a practical way of infecting the enemy ... and there has to be a way of protecting your own forces and possibly your home front.
If the Administration's plan goes forward ... both conditions will be met within a matter of months.
Imagine how useful against the Insurgency in central Iraq.
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» Conspiracy.
Posted by: ABetterFuture
» H5N1
Posted by: AdamSelene11726
» Ok, the tin-foil hat comment was over the top.
Posted by: ABetterFuture
» Significance of Tamiflu
Posted by: AdamSelene11726
» Johnson!, Nixon!, and Judy Miller! and your point on Tamiflu?
Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: Johnson!, Nixon!, and Judy Miller! and your point on Tamiflu?
Posted by: AdamSelene11726
» Why go bio? We've got conventional superiority.
Posted by: ABetterFuture
» con't
Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: Johnson!, Nixon!, and Judy Miller! and your point on Tamiflu?
Posted by: Antero C
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Posted by: emptyground on Nov 3, 2005 4:32 PM
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vaccines=danger to your health + profits for Big Pharm.
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» RE: Vaccine opponents -- remember polio, smallpox, etc.
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Posted by: qrswave on Nov 3, 2005 7:39 PM
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Under our current system, an inventor who is granted a patent on an improvement of another inventor's patented technology is prohibited from commercializing his patented improvement if the holder of the underlying patent refuses to license it!!!
HOW, may I ask, does that "promote the progress of science" as required by the US Constitution?!!
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» RE: Whether or not we are on the verge of an epidemic, patent laws must be reformed!
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» Oversimplifications aside -- the patent system works pretty well.
Posted by: AdamSelene11726
» RE: Oversimplifications aside -- the patent system works pretty well.
Posted by: Antero C
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Posted by: steincam on Nov 3, 2005 8:21 PM
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All is fair in love and war - and business, especially when it is that of the U.S. Is there any requirement for members of the Administration to declare their investments? Should there be?
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