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Syria: The Next Iraq?

By Robert Dreyfuss, TomPaine.com. Posted October 25, 2005.


After all the exposed lies and huge costs of Iraq, is it possible that America will let Bush get away with shattering another Middle East state?

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Three years ago, the U.S. invasion of Iraq was widely viewed as the first chapter of a region-wide strategy to remake the entire map of the Middle East. Following Iraq, Syria and Iran would be the next targets, after which the oil-rich states of the Arabian Gulf, including Saudi Arabia, would follow.

It was a policy driven by neoconservatives in and outside of the Bush administration, and they didn't exactly make an effort to keep it secret. In April, 2003, in an article in The American Prospect titled Just the Beginning, I wrote: "Those who think that U.S. armed forces can complete a tidy war in Iraq, without the battle spreading beyond Iraq's borders, are likely to be mistaken." And the article quoted various neocon strategists to that effect:

"I think we're going to be obliged to fight a regional war, whether we want to or not," says Michael Ledeen, a former U.S. national security official and a key strategist among the ascendant flock of neoconservative hawks, many of whom have taken up perches inside the U.S. government. Asserting that the war against Iraq can't be contained, Ledeen says that the very logic of the global war on terrorism will drive the United States to confront an expanding network of enemies in the region. "As soon as we land in Iraq, we're going to face the whole terrorist network," he says, including the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and a collection of militant splinter groups backed by nations -- Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia -- that he calls "the terror masters." "It may turn out to be a war to remake the world," says Ledeen. In the Middle East, impending "regime change" in Iraq is just the first step in a wholesale reordering of the entire region.

As the war in Iraq bogged down, and as a public outcry developed in the United States against the neoconservatives over the apparently bungled war, another sort of conventional wisdom began to take flight. According to this theory, the United States no longer had the stomach -- or the capability -- to spread the war beyond Iraq, as originally intended. Our troops are stretched too thin, our allies are reining us in and cooler heads are prevailing in Washington--or so the theory goes.

But the news from Syria shows that the conventional wisdom is wrong. The United States is indeed pursuing a hard-edged regime change strategy for Syria. It's happening right before your eyes. With the ever-complacent U.S. media itself bogged down in Iraq, and with the supine U.S. Congress unwilling to challenge our foreign policy apparatus, Syria is under the gun. As in Iraq, the United States is aggressively pursuing a regime change there without the slightest notion of what might come next or who might replace President Bashar Assad. Might it be the fanatical Muslim Brotherhood, by far the most powerful single force in largely Sunni Syria? Might the country fragment into pieces, as Iraq is now doing? The Bush administration doesn't know, just as they didn't know what might happen to Iraq in 2003. But they are going ahead anyway.

It isn't just the repercussions of the U.N.-led investigation into the assassination of former Lebanon Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, whose murder may or may not have been arranged by Syria's intelligence service. Since 2003, the United States has sought political and economic sanctions against Syria (long before Hariri was killed); sought to isolate Syria diplomatically; singled out Syria for its support for Sunni insurgents inside Iraq; issued a series of ominous threats against the Syrian regime ("our patience is running out with Syria," warned Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. proconsul in Iraq); and, according to an October 15 New York Times article, begun threatening "hot-pursuit" and other cross-border military action against Syria. That Times piece noted, in part:

A series of clashes in the last year between American and Syrian troops, including a prolonged firefight this summer that killed several Syrians, has raised the prospect that cross-border military operations may become a dangerous new front in the Iraq war, according to current and former military and government officials.

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Robert Dreyfuss is a freelance writer based in Alexandria, Va., who specializes in politics and national security issues. He is a contributing editor at The Nation, a contributing writer at Mother Jones, a senior correspondent for The American Prospect, and a frequent contributor to Rolling Stone.

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THE TERRIBLE OPTION
Posted by: Captainmagic on Oct 25, 2005 1:32 AM   
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And so it goes. They will spread you far and thin and you cannot win and then they will flood the lands with their martyr's and we must brace ourselves for "that" time of the "Broken Arrow" and then you will see the third use of the Terrible option. "Am I wrong"........

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the genius Bush - what a fruggin lunatic.
Posted by: Smiggsy on Oct 25, 2005 2:22 AM   
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Obviously the US gov't has yet to learn a thing from their Iraq experience. How many more non-bid defense contracts will be formed to help it along the way?. Also a great strategy for further growing of the global talent pool for potential jihad terrorist activity.

Has research been done properly on this phase of the battle for world oil - & just maybe some psyco in Syria does actually have WMDs.....

Gas masks in the ready everybody

And the genius who will sign off on all of this - Bush - what a fruggin lunatic.

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Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist are likely to be true
Posted by: felicity on Oct 25, 2005 4:38 AM   
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after reading alot from the PCT's website with critical and open mind, looks like their theory about the Neocons and the Anti Christ and their puppet nation of USA; are likely to be true in a very near future. 'they' are heading towards that direction with the current US policy of New World Order. everbody must submit to the great 'King'. either you are with us or against us. starting with Afghan, Iraq and soon Syria and later Iran and the rest of the Mid East nation.

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P/S. Its not only about Oil but...
Posted by: felicity on Oct 25, 2005 4:44 AM   
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P/S. its not only about oil after all... but its about something bigger than oil. guess what?

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When Will They Ever Learn?
Posted by: hagwind on Oct 25, 2005 5:22 AM   
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Strange but true, I've just been reading about Syria since the death of Hafiz al-Assad (the current president's father) in 2000. Even stranger, I've got a printout of the Balfour Declaration of 1917 on my desk. The West has been meddling -- or should that be "muddling"? -- in the Arab world for a very long time (not just since the First World War), and the United States, like its European mentors in imperialism, still doesn't get that there's a _there_ there. Which is to say that they/we haven't learned much since the Puritans landed on the Massachusetts coast. An interesting sidelight on the background to the Balfour Declaration: certain upper-class Englishmen were enthusiastic supporters of Zionism, the movement to establish a home for the Jewish people in Palestine, even though many of them were rather antisemitic. Why? Because in their millenarial view, the Second Coming of Jesus wouldn't happen till the Jews were restored to Palestine, so they figured they'd give God a helping hand. (I didn't make this up, I swear.)

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Where to Next?
Posted by: woodford54 on Oct 25, 2005 6:02 AM   
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Personally, I'd like to see a little less discussing and a little more action. WE are the reason Bush is in the Whitehouse and WE are the reason he will stay there. How about a little action here. Do we want to save our world, our lives, or don't we? We have the power. We just need to TAKE it!!

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» RE: Where to Next? Posted by: crusty
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» RE: Where to Next? Posted by: crusty
agitator church and state
Posted by: eileenflmng on Oct 25, 2005 6:09 AM   
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What about Iran?

Israel is speaking out about their soon to be realized nuclear capabilities and this Administration is making noises about Irans's human rights abuses.

Israel has yet to receive an International Inspection of the 40+ year old underground WMD program in the Negev.

Israel denies Basic Human Rights to millions because of the violent actions of a minority.

This Administration and mainstream media ignore these issues.

American's have provided over 100 BILLION dollars to Israel since 1948. We continue to provide 3 billion dollars and 3 billion in military equiptment annually to support the Occupation, the Apartheid Wall, keeping refugees in 57 year old camps in the 'Holy' Land and this Administration has gone limp over the Road Map.

It is a delusion on a crimminal scale to believe the "War on Terror" will ever be won through violence while ignoring the root causes of why some people in the world hate us.

Before 9/11 it was only a few who hated American foreign policy, and because of this Administration's imperialistic actions we are now considered 'ugly Americans' by many.

Reflecting on America's 33 vetos of UN Security admonishments against Israels' violations of Human Rights and refusal to adhere to UN Resolutions is what is feeding the hate of the USA in the world today.

President Bush claims Christ is a great philosopher, but he seems to have ignored that Christ promised: "The Peacemakers will be called the children of God" the gospel is "Fear Not" and the only way to resist and conquer evil is with good.
Knowing The Truth is good because then one can DO SOMETHING

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» Hahaha! You said Limp! Posted by: cstriker
As long as Bush believes Wolfowitz, Feith & PNAC ...
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Oct 25, 2005 7:25 AM   
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BushCo is following the Paul Wolfowitz PNAC doctrine with the ignorance of Douglas Feith that the US can force democracy on all nations and that we will be known as liberators in history once the job is done. He knows that this will take several decades and truly believes he will be remembered as the great liberator and peace maker of this world.

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Syria is not the Target
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 25, 2005 7:27 AM   
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Remember 9/12 ? You know,the day after when an in shock Congress gave over to the office of the president the power to use any means the office deems necessary to deal with acts of and potiental acts of terrorism and to seek out and destroy terrorists anywhere in the world. Then a few weeks ago Darth Dubya slapped a 'No Patience' policy on the World with Syria and Iran in specific. No my Friends, Bush has the will and the means ,so public opinion be damned, we got Iraq,on to the next victim.
Most of us are People of Peace. We can usually get along with everybody. So taking up arms against a system that's rapidly proving itself to be far from what Freedom and Liberty
are and becoming a beacon for the tyranny of evil men would be futile. It plays right into their ideology. The only answer to
a violence oriented system is a massive non-violent responce.
One of not only non compliance with any war policy but non-support in the workplace,schools and universities. To stop the wars you have to stop working.Dec !st is National Sick-Out Against War day. It's also the day Ms. Rosa Parks said "No"
to a racist system that had a false sense of superiority and
did'nt give up her seat or backdown. She brought down a city transit system in a boycott. We can do the same to 'the' System. Both function by money,both function on the people continuing to work,both will change when the workers shun them by non-support. S.O.A.W. 12/01 that's a good start.
After that I'd suggest a couple days a month,whenever,
every month until they loose enough money to support their acts of Global Terrorism, Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity. Sick Out Against War Dec 1st. I'm a vietnam Vet,
and it seems to me that the best way to Honor and Support our Troops and Veterans,is to not make any more of us.

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» RE: Syria is not the Target Posted by: cstriker
Middle East
Posted by: Maryanne on Oct 25, 2005 8:52 AM   
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Recently read somewhere that Condoleeza Rice stated, in an interview, that the goal of the Bush administration is to remake the entire Middle East.

Since we are running out of troops and an official draft seemingly is out of the question, are we going to depend on mercernaries- who are not only expensive but also not directly in control of our Congress? Iraq is showing us that this is the trend.

Heaven help us if Condi's remarks are accurate. And if we have to depend primarily on hired soldiers, it is even more frightening.

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Albert Krauss
Posted by: alkrauss on Oct 25, 2005 9:34 AM   
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We have had it up to and beyond our mental ears, with regard to the continuing malfeasance and dangerous initiatives of the American administration. This latest gambit which is unfolding around "regime change" in Syria needs something far more effective than mere remonstrance, protest and "exposure" for antidote. If the current investigative initiatives don't result in our own American regime change via a timely impeachment process and the complete public discreditation of everything we are doing in foreign policy and military adventurism, then it is time for a more radical approach to regime change domestically. This is no more and no less than a call for true radicalism, as in "uprooting" by any feasible means. Note my "hedge" word, "feasible".

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Something I observed a little while back
Posted by: Habaro on Oct 25, 2005 12:11 PM   
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I remember hearing a news brief--maybe just a week or two after the Sryian army completely withdrew from Lebanon--about how the U.S. military was encountering a substantial increase in insurgents and resistance near the Syrian border. They said that this large group seemed much different from past insurgents in that they appeared very professional and well equipped with standardized uniforms, advanced tactics, etc. The media however, didn't even bother to speculate as to the signifcance of this phenomenon and I have not heard anything about it since. But to me, it seems pretty obvious; after all the threats and bullying from Washington, Sryia has come to the conclusion that it is in their best interest to attempt to thwart a U.S. invasion of their own country, by getting the American military so bogged down in Iraq that they won't even have time to consider it. They've probably just redeployed most of the troops from Lebanon, directly into Iraq--removing all telltale insignias and whatnot, of course--kinda like their own version of a S.O.G. team. Personally, I'd say this is--if not a brilliant tactic--the only choice that Syria has right now: Keep the problem contained in Iraq at all costs. So here we have, once again, another example of one small step forwards (helping to get Syria out of Lebanon) for Dumbya and his bravado; one giant leap backwards for America.

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Keep your eye on the ball
Posted by: Pooty T on Oct 25, 2005 1:05 PM   
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If terrorism were the target, Syria would make sense. But it's not. Oil is. And Iran has much more of it. I don't think we have to worry about a military occupation of Syria. They don't have enough of what we want. That doesn't mean the CIA isn't pursuing regime change there like it does in countries all over the world....

We do need to be very worried about a military occupation of Iran. Remember we're after oil infrastructure, not terrorism. Read this:

Iranian Oil Bourse

The war machine needs a new lease on the so called "War on Terror" before March. They know nobody's going to buy another WMD argument alone, so brace yourselves for another sponsored attack. The plans are already in place:

The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney's office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing – that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack – but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.[11]

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» RE: Keep your eye on the ball Posted by: Basenjis
Syria? Not Gonna Happen. Nope.
Posted by: johndenton46 on Oct 25, 2005 1:51 PM   
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The zeitgeist has shifted. Once, Bush could do no wrong. Now he couldn't buy a 40 of Colt 45 with his "political capital."

If an invasion of Syria commenced, I and a lot of people would be in the streets, kicking Hillary Clinton's pragmatic, wind-testing ass into the front of the mob, along with the other Vichy traitors of the Dim-ocratic party.

It really would sound the alarm of advanced Fascism, and even though I have been disgusted for what, five years? with the sleepy American masses, I truly believe that the protests would equal the anti-Vietnam uprising.

Bush knows this.

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» RE: Syria? Not Gonna Happen. Nope. Posted by: wearesilhouettes
There's a saying in Texas...
Posted by: nitsua1023 on Oct 26, 2005 8:01 AM   
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You can fool the American people once... and if you do, then shame on me... but then, when you try to... if you fool 'em... you can't get 'em fooled again.

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» RE: There's a saying in Texas... Posted by: Captainmagic