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The Partisan War Syndrome

By David Sirota, In These Times. Posted October 19, 2005.


The Democrats' policy of doing nothing as the Republican Party keeps tripping over itself is a recipe for continued political failure and irrelevance.
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A disease is running rampant through the American left these days. Its symptoms are intense and increasingly pervasive in every corner of the self-proclaimed "progressive" coalition. A good name for the disease could be "Partisan War Syndrome" -- and it is eating away at what remains of progressives' ideological underpinnings and the Democratic Party's ability to win elections over the long haul.

The disease is simple to understand: It leads the supposedly "ideological" grassroots left to increasingly subvert its overarching ideology on issues in favor of pure partisan concerns. That may sound great at first glance. Democratic Party officials always talk about a need for "big tent unity" and subsequently try to downplay ideology. But as a trait of the grassroots and not just the party, Partisan War Syndrome could be positively devastating not just for issue advocacy, but also for Democrats' political aspirations as well.

The main symptoms of Partisan War Syndrome are hallucination, delirium and obsessive compulsive behavior, with those afflicted losing almost all perspective about what winning politics really is all about. Washington, D.C., of course, could be declared a Hot Zone outbreak area, with this disease afflicting virtually every self-described strategist, operative, and lawmaker that operates in the progressive name. But it is starting to seep out everywhere -- even on the Internet blogs that the mainstream media reflexively defines as the "left," "liberal" or "progressive" base.

Certainly, this disease can be difficult to detect. The mainstream media regularly portrays the so-called Democratic base as a highly ideological, "liberal" or "progressive" monolith, supposedly pressing an insulated, spineless D.C. Democratic establishment to move to the "left."

This portrayal creates the image that there really is a cohesive, powerful ideological force on the left, one that is committed to convictions and issues before party -- much like there is on the right. This image is reinforced by the mainstream media's constant characterization of Internet blogs and the "netroots" as an extension of this monolith -- as if a medium automatically equals an ideology.

As proof that such a monolith exists, the media writes stories about this or that Democratic politician -- no matter how conservative he or she is -- pandering to or courting the "left" by once in a while taking a mundane Democratic Party position and then blogging about it. We also see an entire counter-industry to this mythical monolith in the form of organizations like the Democratic Leadership Council, which raise corporate money, put out reports attacking the supposedly all-powerful "left," and commission polls to discredit what, in reality, is a straw man.

And it is a straw man. To be sure, there used to be a powerful ideological force on the left that constituted the Democratic Party base. And there are still remnants of that ideological movement left in various progressive labor, environmental and civil rights organizations, and disparate Internet blogs. But look no further than the 2004 Democratic presidential primaries to see that the ideological movement as a whole is in tatters.

In that race, primary voters -- supposedly a representation of this "ideological" base -- supported John Kerry on the basis of his personal profile as a Vietnam War veteran and his supposed "electability." It was the most non-ideological of choices in what we were supposed to believe was the most ideological of races.

This blunting of the left's ideological edge is a result of three unfortunate circumstances. First, conservatives spent the better part of three decades vilifying the major tenets of the left's core ideology, succeeding to the point where "liberal" is now considered a slur. Second, the media seized on these stereotypes and amplified them -- both because there was little being done to refute them, and because they fit so cleanly into the increasingly primitive and binary political narrative being told on television.

And third is Partisan War Syndrome -- the misconception even in supposedly "progressive" circles that substance is irrelevant when it comes to both electoral success and, far more damaging, to actually building a serious, long-lasting political movement. This is the syndrome resulting from the shellshock of the partisan wars that marked the Clinton presidency.

It is an affliction that hollowed out much of the Democratic base's economic and national security convictions in favor of an orthodoxy that says partisan concerns and cults of personality should be the only priorities because they are supposedly the only factors that win elections. It is a disease that subverts substance for "image" and has marked the last decade of Democrats' repeated failures at the ballot box.


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David Sirota was the top spokesman for Democrats on the House Appropriations Committee. He is currently writing a book on the middle class economic squeeze for Crown Publishers. You can contact him at Davidsirota.com.

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Republicans and Democrats: Ideological Twins
Posted by: david.model@senecac.on.ca on Oct 19, 2005 3:38 AM   
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The danger of living in a country without a true left is that progressive elements in the Democratic party are deluded into thinking that their party was at one time, or has the potential to be again, a party representing the "people".

The U.S. is one of the few democracies in the world without either a labour party or a socialist party. For example, Canada has the New Democratic Party (NDP) which receives no corporate donations and espouses policies such as subsidized daycare, subdized housing, universal public healthcare, a fair and progressive tax system, strong environmental protections and sustainable energy sources. They are also opposed to the imperalistic defence and foreign policies of the U.S.

Compare these policies to the policies of the Democratic Party. For example, consider defence and foreign policy. There is virtually no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans since World War II.

President Johnson's escalation of the Vietnam war was based on a lie. During his reign as emperor, General Suharto assumed power in Indonesia with the assistance of the U.S. L.B.J. supported Somoza in Nicaragua, the Shah of Iran and Mobutu in Zaire (Congo).

Next consider President Carter. He rearmed Suharto when he needed more arms for his takeover of East Timor. He also supported Mobutu, the Shah, and Pinochet.

Clinton committed war crimes against Serbia, blocked assistance to Rawanda, and supported dictators around the globe.

The fact that the Democrats are funded by big business and depend on that funding to remain a contender against the Republicans means that they will remain a business-friendly party. This dependence on big business limits the parties motivation to serve the public interest.

Author of newly released "Lying for Empire: How to Commit War Crimes with a Straight Face"

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What an excellent article/opinion.
Posted by: Pepper on Oct 19, 2005 3:44 AM   
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This is the very best analysis I have ever read regarding the democratic party's problems. I am a registered republican who is disinfranchised from my party. I have come to sites and alternative news like this one to try to find a home.

Alas, I have been frustrated with and commented on "Where is the Democratic Party?" I hear nothing from them, thus I don't know if I want to switch or to just vote a third party which is now where I am leaning. In fact, just looking at the poll numbers, I keep asking myself, "why are the dems mouthing the neocon positions on everything?" Those positions are why the neocons are dropping like a lead balloon in the polls.

I am beginning to believe the system is irretreivably broken and it will go down in flames. My only hope is that something new will arise like a pheonix better than this horrible two party system (both sounding like the same party, neither of which I support). WE MUST GET OUT OF IRAQ OR ELSE WE ARE DOOMED. If someone doesnt' get that, then we are doomed. Stock up, buy gold and silver, find some property in the toolies and get ready for a wild ride.

Sorry for the rant. P

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Where are the great men and women???
Posted by: zoza on Oct 19, 2005 6:48 AM   
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Where are the great men and women? Anywhere in the world? No! There is no single person out there in leadership positions whom I would call great. They are all playing this silly game that may be fun for them but disgusts us. They have forgotten that the name of the game is "Serve the American People First".... not "Serve My Party First" or "Look Really Terrific First"or "Take Care of the Corporations First". All those games have done is to fragment this country into a thousand little pieces and as we all know, a house divided soon falls.

Our country is now in such a confused state that it needs to just go ahead and collapse. Like a drug user, it has to finally "hit the wall" and now needs rehabilitation. The power addicts, ideology addicts and party addicts have infected us all and there is no single man or woman out there with enough balls to put an end to the denial, who has the courage to stand up tell the American people that we are in trouble and it's our fault and therefore our responsiblity to heal ourselves.

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Perhaps we need to define what real family values are?
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Oct 19, 2005 7:31 AM   
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George Bush in 2000 ran on two political issues. In 2004 he ran on being a strong leader to keep us safe and FEAR !! of the unknown. His other issue was the word "liberal" and inconsistency within the Democrats message. Family values to them was you had to be born again, hate/fear of gay marriage and ultra conservative judges to over turn Roe v Wade. Never was any mention of Corporate lobby control that was truly where Bush got is money and he repaid for loyalty with corporate legislation and jobs.

We choose our candidate by "anyone who is not George Bush!". Bill Clinton won because he kept saying "it is the economy stupid" and are you better off now than you were four years ago. He consistently brought his message back to what was best for their families and each individual. He was consistent with his belief in people and the safety net. Family Values is what it best for all the members of a family. He had been poor and he could make everyone believe that. He knew people needed jobs and we believed him. It did not matter about his problems with the opposite sex, because he had a plan and stayed on task about explaining.

In a sense that is what Bush and Company did. How my times have we seen written on this page Clinton had sex and had to face impeachment charges. While George Bush breaks the law and lies to everyone and no one dares to hold him accountable. Because he is a born again Christian, which washed away all his guilt and sins against the people of the whole world.

We need to define what we believe are true family values and keep saying it over and over again. Run against the Republicans' record and have a plan on how to make it better. We need put familles and the individual first. We have to stop calling the Democrats gutless and there is no difference between the parties. Think of where this country would have been if Gore was president. Keep thinking about it and make a list maybe and read it often. Those are the values we need to show people. Maybe our Democrats would start to fight more, if we told the good ones how much we appreciate when they do or say something we like. They are afraid they will do something wrong, so the Republican machine can distort and totally destroy them. Look at how many really good ones that has happened to in the last 5 years. Their reputations and that of their families was ruined with lies. Would you not fear that?

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One issue to unite all progressives
Posted by: Cindy on Oct 19, 2005 8:32 AM   
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From my vantage point there is one issue that needs to unite all progressives. It is the desperate need for REAL election reform so clearly illustrated in the last two so-called presidential "elections". Remember Ohio? Florida? As long as we continue to have the present voting system, which lacks transparency, accountability and legitimacy, we have no hope of winning elections and addressing the meaningful and critical issues of our time. The neo-conservatives and corporates who presently control EVERYTHING, count on the fact that progressives will continue to stay caught up in all but this essential, basic needs issue. They have no worries about losing major elections as long as the vote "counting" system they have installed remains in place.
I remain frustrated and dumb-founded by the continued avoidance and denial of this "elephant in the livingroom".
Progressives need to wake up to this reality and put their efforts into demanding that our representatives reform this broken voting system NOW.

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How do we move forward?
Posted by: asque on Oct 19, 2005 8:47 AM   
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I have read many articles that (quite rightfully) indicate that the Democrats have a problem. What is missing is a treatment plan, suggestions for reforming the Party. I know the DLC, with it's close ties to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is part of the problem, but where are the alternatives? I keep hearing Hillary Clinton, with her close ties to the DLC mentioned as a candidate, but where are the real Democrats? How do we remove the DLC from it's role as a stumbling block and replace it with leadership?

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Tricky Dick 2 and W too!
Posted by: ScottP on Oct 19, 2005 9:08 AM   
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OK, I'm getting ahead of things by hoping Cheney will resign and Bush will follow, a la Agnew/Nixon. However, it brings to light the possibility of Condi moving in, which of course wouldn't happen since neither a black nor a woman can be president or VP here. But she breaks the stereotype of lying war mongers being white males. Just like Nancy Pelosi breaks the stereotype of SF Democratic Congresswomen not being war mongers, too. Just like Roberts breaks the stereotype of supreme court justices having adequate literacy to understand a phrase like "speedy trial".

I agree with the author, partisan politics and corporate media are fueling the downfall of our nation by subverting important issues. Let's turn off our TVs and make sure the candidates who stand tall on issues make it through the Democratic primaries.

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Respectfully Disagree
Posted by: cyclone on Oct 19, 2005 9:11 AM   
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I too believed (and still do) that the Democratic Party is wandering aimlessly along. It is a large part of the reason that we are where we are today. But.......

The White House is imploding as we speak, and most in it are going to go down with the team. The Democrats should sit back and enjoy the spectacle, soon being able to reap the rewards of the evil regime taking itself down piece by piece. They can wait for the indictments, watch the resignations, and probably won't even need any message when the dust settles. They will win by default.

If they actually do try to create a coherent message any time soon, they'll probably screw it up and manage to lose a soon to be forfeited game. That would indeed be a first.

No, they need to stay out of the way and let the evil run its course. This is one time that the evil is on the side of the Democrats.

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That Is Some Next Level Analysis
Posted by: daveinchi on Oct 19, 2005 9:25 AM   
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I'm not sure I agree with everything Sirota says, particularly this:

"As just one example, take progressives' constant genuflecting anytime Sen. Hillary Clinton's (D-N.Y.) name is mentioned. She is forever portrayed as a champion of the left, with everyone who's anyone in politics assuming that she will have rock-solid support from the Democratic base despite her loud and continuing support for the Iraq War, and rather quiet Senate record on other progressive issues."

I have yet to meet a single progressive who "genuflects" when Hillary is brought up, and frankly the thought that she might be try to run for President frightens me.

This conversation is important though. I love what Lakoff writes about framing, but there's got to be SUBSTANCE behind these convictions. Many evangelical conservatives go to battle because they believe GOD TOLD THEM TO.

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What Is Our Over-Arching Ideology?
Posted by: daveinchi on Oct 19, 2005 9:26 AM   
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I think it boils down to these four concepts:

Sustainability.

Opportunity.

Personal Freedom.

and

Rule of Law.

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True Progressives
Posted by: bigart on Oct 19, 2005 9:51 AM   
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The gentleman pretend to know progressives. He talks about their support of Kerry in 2004. There was only one progressive candidate in the 2004 elections, Dennis Kucinich. When his party sold him and the American people out, progressive were left with ABA: anybody but Bush again.
There are serious issues in this country: the war, the attack on the economy of the middle and working classes, the failed healthcare system etc. The Democtats and the Republicans don't address these issues because they are under the controll of the moneyed oligarchy. Thus, progressives shun both parties.Throuhout the world today there is a growing movement of working and middle classes: the teacher's strike in British Coilumbia, the work stoppages in France, Spain and India, the German election. The political picture in this country must change; the two party system is dead, a new union of the working people is on the rise.

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Neither party is your friend
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Oct 19, 2005 10:10 AM   
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This commentary really nails the situation. Both parties are enemies of liberals. Being "not as bad" as Republicans is not enough, Democratic candidates must be liberals. It is true that until campaigns are financed totally by the taxpayers "special interests" will be in control of both parties. Both parties must be forced to support this campaign finance reform. Here is how to do it. Write to the Republican National Committee and to the Democratic National Committee and tell them that you will not vote for any candidate whose party does not support public campaign financing. Then write the same letter to your state Republican and Democratic Committees. It is that simple and easy. There are certainly enough liberals to bring both parties to heel before the 2006 election if you spread the word. For more details click on: The Lincoln Initiative

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A lot of long term problems exposed
Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 19, 2005 10:13 AM   
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If you want to know what's the worst a Democratic Party can be in its weakest mode, look no farther than VA, though I assume most other red states are pretty much the same except for slightly more active Democrats scattered. I'm going to mail this article to the Tim Kaine campaign and other Democrats in my area and also to the numb and silent progressive groups.

P.S.: While I disagreed with Sirota's take on framing, he cleared up my doubts and reminded me of the need to first put important issues such as the economy, environment, etc ... back on the table first before we can get to the framing part.

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Dems Failure
Posted by: rafey on Oct 19, 2005 12:36 PM   
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Briefly, I agree with all that has been said here. It seems the leaders of the Dems are simply not paying attention (they are certainly not commenting and their questionaires are narrowly defined, eliminating any possibility of novelty or a new direction for the constituents) or they have a vested interest in their own non-policy platform. I might end up voting Green this time around!

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FRAMING WORKS.
Posted by: parker1 on Oct 21, 2005 6:57 AM   
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the idea that the left's big problems are all about rhetoric and delivery systems and nothing about substance is a defense mechanism designed to deny the deeper questions of conviction and guts.

Is this the new meme du jour of the blogosphere ... a zero sum game when using framing... ie you can use frame or be substantial sorry but this is the biggest crock of bull. Booman just went on the EXACT SAME RANT with THE EXACT SAME STRAW MEN ... now it looks like you are burning the exact same straw man over here... these NDN coordinated blogswarms are begginning to annoy me...

The only question that comes to mind is WHY?

Why are there those so intent on the Democrats NOT using this tool that has played a MAJOR FACTOR in the GOP taking control of the whole damn government.

Your argument is made up of factesques and there is a 200 thread diary proving you, Booman and who ever else that has gotten these "talking points" WRONG

Sorry for jumping to conclusions, but I do not believe in "accidental echo chambers"....

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Democratic leaders
Posted by: aahpat on Oct 21, 2005 11:28 AM   
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will do and say nothing that might alienate their GOP family values base. It is much more comfortable for the DLC Dem.s to continue to alienate their core civil liberties, human rights, social justice values voters. Such left wing Americans are too dispirited to vote or long since disenfranchised by the Jim Crow drug war anyway.

Poaching the GOP is the only vote left to the right wing, (Wallace wing), of the Democrats.

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The left has been systematically driven out of American politics for 35 years
Posted by: aahpat on Oct 21, 2005 11:40 AM   
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How America's right wing has successfully subverted our democracy
The castration of the Voter Rights Act

Too many nonconformists and minorities have been disenfranchised in the past thirty five years by the right wing Democrats in collusion with the racists in the GOP for anyone to now blame the progressives for the inability of the Democrats to win.

The Voter Rights Act was thought to have electorally empowered some 20 million Americans.

More than 13 million Americans are today disenfranchised by the criminal justice system. 70% of all crime is drug related so some 7 million or more are disenfranchised by the Jim Crow Drug War. A civil war supported by Democrats like the Clinton's, Kerry and Gore.

If indeed some 7 million are so disenfranchised while the 2000 and 2004 elections were decided by 3 million or fewer then these right wing Democrats screwed themselves with their support of the Jim Crow Drug War.

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If the Democrats want to win
Posted by: aahpat on Oct 21, 2005 11:55 AM   
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they need to get off of their right wing pandering high horse and learn to build winning coalitions with all of the like-minded voter groups that are essentially alienated Democrats. They could have done this last year but instead they simply demanded capitulation to the family values lite party line without respecting the social justice, civil liberties, human rights values that compelled these voters to flee the Democrats in the past ten years.

Democrats need to take a lesson from Kevin Zeese who is running an Independent campaign for the U.S. senate in Maryland. He is bringing together a coalition of like-minded left leaning and progressive politics groups by respecting their values.

Democrats will win elections when they return to respecting the values of Democrats. Human rights, civil liberties and social justice. The core Democratic Party values that I grew up on in the 1960's.

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perhaps ...
Posted by: bmc on Oct 28, 2005 1:42 PM   
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Perhaps the left and right look fairly similar on foreign policy for a reason. Walter Mondale once said that he and President Carter came into office with all kinds of bright ideas about how they were going to change foreign policy. Then, they got what is known as The Briefing -- detailed description of who has what pointed at whom. It forced them to bag the wild ideas.

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The big picture
Posted by: Ivancarter on Mar 26, 2006 6:55 PM   
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Sirota makes a number of good points.

He makes two particularly critical ones. I agree with one in part, and the second, completely. His first is that there is a serious problem with the Democratic Party.

Some of his points as to why are correct. There are more fundamental problems, however. Republicans have become the party of sales. Democrats have become the party of arguments. Selling wins, arguing loses.

Republicans, and increasingly, the right wing of the Republican Party that has come to dominate Washington, have sold their characterization of events and issues to America. Despite the fact that the right wing of the republican party, in order to both convince themselves (there is a critical point most democrats also miss) and others, have often ignored critical facts, misconstrued others, applied tautological reasoning, and, above all else, have increasingly replied upon brilliantly crafted sound bite rhetoric that often appeals to our worst biases and emotions and leads to further distortion of the issues.

Democrats tend to believe that what is obvious to them, is obvious to everyone else. It's not.

They also tend to underestimate the importance of republican mischaracterizations: Both in terms of defining the democrats (and liberals) themselves, and often, the issues -- but also in terms of defining the republicans themselves. How so?

Take the last election for example. The Bush administration, with all due respect, had a horrendous record, secretive processes (only foreshadowing the little FISA constitution dance that was to come), a lack of awareness, vigorous debate and outside opinion (thus, lack of comprehension and mismanagement on Iraq, and terrorism prior to September 11), and preconditioned views regardless of the fact (i.e., fiscal policy). This administration also, I suggest, took many decent or even commendable aspects of the traditional conservative platform (restricted immigration -- yes, I believe that, but I am not a liberal) limited governmental power, accountable government, individual responsibility, fiscal discipline, and, last but not least, liberty, and mangled them.

In order to support this record, the campaign had to engage in an almost nonstop series of mischaracterizations; first and foremost about their opponent, and secondly about the issues and their own record therein. Thus, we heard a barrage of rhetoric that helped to paint John Kerry in the American psyche, and ultimately defined the election. But democrats miss this point, as well, foolishly blaming the election on Kerry's lack of charisma, or worse.

Here is what else we heard, constantly, as the main Bush campaign theme, because there really wasn't much else for the Bush administration to run on. "At least you know I mean what I say." "I am a straight shooter,” etc., along with the implicit values of integrity, and trust.

But these messages were completely at odds with almost everything uttered by the campaign. Thus, the most effective single action the democrats could have taken, would have been, to begin, in broad strokes, followed with repetitive, non argumentative, even gracious (that is, non bitter, non accusatory) examples, to show the American people how the things that the campaign based upon “at least you know that I mean what I say,” was saying, were continually not lining up with the actual record, or facts. This would accomplish three things all at the same time.

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the big picture, cont'd
Posted by: Ivancarter on Mar 26, 2006 7:02 PM   
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First, it would help to inform Americans on the issues, in ways that they were not being informed. Second, it would have undermined the main mischaracterizations of Kerry, and third, it would have presented a characterization of the bush administration, supported by the actual record, as, in fact, an administration that had a persistent pattern of leading by misleading, over relying upon extended hype and rhetoric, and constantly and repeatedly doing one thing and saying another, now once again, even in their characterizations still as they run a campaign based wholly upon national security rhetoric and insisting that they mean what they say -- while mischaracterizing the facts, the issues, their record, and most of all their opponent, consistent with the same pattern we have seen for four years, and are seeing now. Continual, creative, non argumentative, and otherwise gracious focus on the mischaracterizations, would have allowed the American voter to see this, rather than just be told, and ascribe it to just more typical partisan posturing.

Democrats did not realize that each time the bush campaign manipulated an issue, tugged at our heartstrings with highly volatile and misleading rhetoric, mischaracterized Kerry or flat out got the facts or logic wrong, it was an opportunity to bear down like a pit bull (like the republicans did with every single democratic gaffe, real or imagined) to show once again how the bush administration had to lead by misleading – tying it, always, to the larger patterns. They did not understand the critical role these mischaracterizations played in shaping the national psyche, defining the issues, and most of all, defining both of the candidates. And they did not understand how critical it was to not only focus on such mischaracterizations, but to use them as part of their essential message.

Yet to the extent that democrats did focus on this, they did not know how to, effectively. Because, again, they think that what is obvious to them is obvious to other Americans, and so a quick sharp witted reference will do, when in fact it is often the worst possible approach, and at best only a small part of what is needed.

The critical point that democrats and liberals need to realize is that republicans, just like democrats, are not bad people, or "liars." I can't seem to get this through democrats’ heads. If democrats fail to understand their opponent, they will be trounced by their opponent. Again, this has happened, as democrats have lost not just to the Republican Party, but to the right wing of the republican part. In stark contrast, as Sirota points out, there really isn't a real "left" any more. I have been arguing, similarly, that true liberals have become marginalized.

This leads to Sirota's second excellent point, which, happily, can be dealt with in a much more summary fashion.

Every time anybody (myself included) says anything which does not support the rather distorted picture that the right wing republican leadership has managed to paint, they are immediately labeled (and often thus the facts or points are conveniently disregarded), as a liberal.

I can’t even guess How many times I have written to EJ Dionne to tell him to stop categorizing everything in terms of "liberals" and "conservatives,", with, conservatives, of course, being the majority right wing republicans currently in Congress and in the White House, and "liberals" being everybody else. (Just another example of how liberals hurt their own cause, another point I have made to Dionne on several occasions).

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Posted by: Ivancarter on Mar 26, 2006 7:05 PM   
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The fact of the matter is, true liberals have been marginalized in Congress, marginalized in the mainstream debate, and moderates, democrats, and even independents, are all lumped to together as "liberal" to keep "balance," as the country has shifted to the right. The reason the country has shifted to the right is explained above. It will take the populace a while to catch up, (which is why it is misguided for democrats, as I have seen on several sites, proclaim with glee how the majority support their positions, not realizing that this is even more evidence of how badly they have mangled their message).

The second reason, which I only mention here because of its importance, is because much of the media -- which has been the subject of an intense campaign by the far right, and now accommodates even while the campaign continues –- now routinely presents both sides of the story as "news" no matter how preposterous, and often overlooks or minimalizes the underlying facts. Sure, democrats whine about this, but they have not made the effective case to the media, or, more importantly, to a country that in the mainstream still believes that the media is liberally biased.

This goes to the heart, again, of recognizing the heart of issues, which, it seems, in some manner, Sirota also argues. The media matter, far more than democrats allow. The fact that there is all this wonderful information on the Internet means far less than is commonly believed, because most people simply self select that reaffirm their beliefs. the media matter, and by their aggressive participation in the "label everyone as liberal who is not expressly a republican or otherwise agrees with the right wing of the republican party," they are hurting the democratic cause.

Very related to Sirota’s point about (liberals) not simply standing up and and consistently advocating what they believe in, and, more importantly, why, democrats, and particularly liberals, also don’t know how to not tolerate. Oh, they get nasty (which is utterly ineffective, by the way, and far more often does more to undermine the liberal, or democratic cause, than help it), and call names, which is also largely ineffective.

The way to not be tolerant has four elements, with the first and fourth being the most overlooked, yet perhaps the most essential. 1) To know what your case is (a big part of Sirota’s argument), and if your opponent has been misrepresenting the issues, that is a big part of your case because it allows you to both make it and undermine your opponent’s credibility at the same time, 2) To MAKE YOUR CASE, 3) keep making it, to the American people, to the media, 3) in a way that effectively communicates it to them.

Allowing the right wing to not only successfully lump everyone in as liberals, but in effect, bastardize the term, is par for the course. As for the things that Sirota points out, and that I try to point out above, this has to change. And Sirota is right, even if his take on the issues may be more liberal than mine. Democrats have to take the positions they believe in, articulate why, and stop allowing the other side to continually misrepresent them, but also stop whining about it. Use it.

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Posted by: Ivancarter on Mar 26, 2006 7:05 PM   
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The fact of the matter is, true liberals have been marginalized in Congress, marginalized in the mainstream debate, and moderates, democrats, and even independents, are all lumped to together as "liberal" to keep "balance," as the country has shifted to the right. The reason the country has shifted to the right is explained above. It will take the populace a while to catch up, (which is why it is misguided for democrats, as I have seen on several sites, proclaim with glee how the majority support their positions, not realizing that this is even more evidence of how badly they have mangled their message).

The second reason, which I only mention here because of its importance, is because much of the media -- which has been the subject of an intense campaign by the far right, and now accommodates even while the campaign continues –- now routinely presents both sides of the story as "news" no matter how preposterous, and often overlooks or minimalizes the underlying facts. Sure, democrats whine about this, but they have not made the effective case to the media, or, more importantly, to a country that in the mainstream still believes that the media is liberally biased.

This goes to the heart, again, of recognizing the heart of issues, which, it seems, in some manner, Sirota also argues. The media matter, far more than democrats allow. The fact that there is all this wonderful information on the Internet means far less than is commonly believed, because most people simply self select that reaffirm their beliefs. the media matter, and by their aggressive participation in the "label everyone as liberal who is not expressly a republican or otherwise agrees with the right wing of the republican party," they are hurting the democratic cause.

Very related to Sirota’s point about (liberals) not simply standing up and and consistently advocating what they believe in, and, more importantly, why, democrats, and particularly liberals, also don’t know how to not tolerate. Oh, they get nasty (which is utterly ineffective, by the way, and far more often does more to undermine the liberal, or democratic cause, than help it), and call names, which is also largely ineffective.

The way to not be tolerant has four elements, with the first and fourth being the most overlooked, yet perhaps the most essential. 1) To know what your case is (a big part of Sirota’s argument), and if your opponent has been misrepresenting the issues, that is a big part of your case because it allows you to both make it and undermine your opponent’s credibility at the same time, 2) To MAKE YOUR CASE, 3) keep making it, to the American people, to the media, 3) in a way that effectively communicates it to them.

Allowing the right wing to not only successfully lump everyone in as liberals, but in effect, bastardize the term, is par for the course. As for the things that Sirota points out, and that I try to point out above, this has to change. And Sirota is right, even if his take on the issues may be more liberal than mine. Democrats have to take the positions they believe in, articulate why, and stop allowing the other side to continually misrepresent them, but also stop whining about it. Use it.

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