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Can a Man Become President?

By Sherman Yellen, Huffington Post. Posted October 11, 2005.


Real men are not towel snapping bullies like President Bush, whose target is the poor and those least able to defend themselves.
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As one looks toward the next Presidential election, assuming that our democracy can survive this presidency, the question we often hear is "Can a woman become President?" This reflects upon the interest in Hillary Clinton and her ability to be elected in a Presidential race. A more pertinent question may be "Can a man become President?" In asking this, one is obliged to define what one means by a man, something far different from the male who currently occupies our White House.

Let's consider the last election. The perception was the George Bush was the more manly candidate. He spoke with a western twang, walked with a swagger, appeared to be decisive, and clearly had no use for the effete Eastern liberals, intellectuals, and the sissy boys who waffled about at the U.N. Despite the fact that the twang and the swagger were cultivated by this Eastern prep school boy with Yale and Harvard degrees, Bush was considered the more "authentic" candidate by a great many voters and pundits who found John Kerry "inauthentic" with his educated Bostonian ways, actual war heroism, and his inability to take a stand and stick with it right or wrong for life.

As one who would not want to sit down and share a beer with George Bush, or go windsailing with John Kerry, I have my own definition of "man" and I would like to apply it to the qualifications for our next President.

A real man should be capable of flip-flopping on any issue at any time. It is an essential element in thinking and living. There is no way to grow as a man without changing one's mind from time to time. The inability to change an opinion when life and events prove your original opinion or decision wrong, is not a manly quality. It is the quality of those who prefer to be deluded by life, rather than taught by it. The best thing that could be said of Kerry, who ran an overly cautious, defensive campaign that lacked the courage he showed in life, was that Kerry flip flopped on the issues. It meant that he was a man capable of growth.

Thank God for flip floppers. History shows that Lincoln was a champion flip flopper, changing his views on slavery as he developed in his life, Teddy Roosevelt was a flip flopper, a hunter who protected the environment, an American aristocrat who sought to protect the worker from the very ruling class he was born into, and protect industry from the trusts. FDR's elitist views were tempered by the times he lived in. Harry S. Truman, a small town man with a limited background was capable of making great decisions, based upon his ability to learn on the job, starting the movement towards Civil Rights in the military.

George Bush can never flip flop. He cannot change his mind, because it is a lazy mind, incapable of the activity required for flip flopping which can be a wrenching experience. Between the flip and the flop is a lot of mental and moral activity. He is far from stupid, but lacks that curiosity which allows for growth and change. By "sticking to his guns" he thinks he is acting as a man should act, standing by his principles, while in fact all he demonstrates is his inability to tolerate change and the weakness of those principles.


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Hilary? no...
Posted by: aedwards on Oct 11, 2005 12:38 AM   
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I'm sorry to disappoint everyone. I know how much you guys want to see Hilary as president but its not going to happen in the next election. If Hilary runs for president she will be running against Rudolph Gullianne. Hilary woundn't even win NY.

Maybe there is a better canidate then Hilary that the Democratic party can run. Any ideas?

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Thank You
Posted by: Nathan on Oct 11, 2005 12:55 AM   
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Thank you for highlighting such an important struggle; important both to our political process and to our culture in its entirety. White men are so often cited as the demographic that is the most in the wrong and the most to blame for the sorry state that our political system and our mainstream culture are in today. We are labelled as the ones in charge, the ones who have fucked up so tremendously, the ones who are the problem. But the white males, such as cheney, rove, delay, hastert, bush, robertson, murdoch, et al, who perpetrate massive frauds and horrendous crimes, who perpetuate hate and greed and loneliness and despair, who prey upon weakness and fear in order to satiate their cowardly insecurities, who seek to swallow and control everything to make up for their emptiness within - these are not men. And anyone who identifies as a white man ought not include these bullies and cowards in that identity. We need to take back and reassume the label 'man' from those who pervert its meaning and destroy its worth. Thanks for speaking out and pointing out the way.

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» RE: Thank You Posted by: cmonhank
Not Hilary but...
Posted by: Nigelthebrit on Oct 11, 2005 3:20 AM   
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...Barbara Boxer - preferably with Feinstein as running mate.

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» RE: Not Hilary but... Posted by: jag585
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» RE: Not Hilary but... Posted by: pepaw
The "I was wrong" candidate
Posted by: churchofone on Oct 11, 2005 3:51 AM   
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If we ever get a Presidential candidate who can say those words while looking directly into a camera lens, THAT is the candidate for which I vote. The person who admits to being human and making mistakes, just like the rest of us; who doesn't know it all, but knows where to turn to learn - that is the type of candidate we need.

I can only hope that our nation is learning that we don't need a President who is inflexible and rigid - two traits of addiction - but rather someone who is at least willing to explore other options and admit their humanity, and recognize it in others as well.

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» Bravo! Posted by: eastcoker
But he IS stupid!
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 11, 2005 4:08 AM   
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The author of this very good piece states that George W. Bush is not stupid, just intellectually lazy - but that (at least by my way of thinking) is the very definition of stupidity! All anyone has to do is watch him in any setting where he is required to think off-the-cuff. The man has got the IQ of a half-eaten box of Milk Duds! Remember the Tim Russert interview on Meet The Press two years ago? Thank Heavens I videotaped that. It makes great entertainment. Watch him at any press conference - he can only speak in generalities:"The terrorists hate our freedoms" It's a tad more complicated than that, George! Jello Biafra put it well, "...he's so dumb he makes Dan Quayle look like Einstein".
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
tomdegan@frontiernet.net

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Sports Fans Rule: “My Team, Right or Wrong.”
Posted by: shangrilalad on Oct 11, 2005 4:43 AM   
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Sports Fans Rule: “My Team, Right or Wrong.”

I’d like to see a woman run for president, but not Hilary, she would be a disaster. Stupid white men will prevent a woman from becoming president for decades to come, but Hilary would infuriate and rally cavemen and set women back a century. Of all western societies we have the highest percentage of ignorant sport fans, and they and their dimwitted wives are a majority of voters.

Republicans have proven they have no qualms about rigging elections, so why would they stop now? Plus, many of our democratic leaders are just as corrupt as republicans, though disorganized and far less competent as liars, thieves and cheats. Far less competent as leaders too.

As Machiavelli noted, no country can recover from total corruption without outside intervention. If the world hadn’t allied against Hitler’s Thousand year Reich, it would have lasted a thousand years. Republicans totally control the government, the armed forces, the media and millions of faithful morons, and until the world becomes frightened enough to unite, we will be ruled by sociopaths.

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» Chickenhearted democrats Posted by: shangrilalad
» Dirty players Posted by: shangrilalad
agitator church and state
Posted by: eileenflmng on Oct 11, 2005 6:12 AM   
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Perhaps the reason we have such a screwed up world is because the voices of woman have been ignored.

Maybe the world is so F----D up because it has been testosterone driven since the beginning of 'civilization' by a patriarchal worldview that seeks power, control and empire building rather than honoring the maternal wisdom of love, compassion and caring.

If we the people are the government then we the people must be the catalyst to change it.

www.wearewideawake.org

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» Sexist stereotype Posted by: brunowe
Vote For Me
Posted by: cstriker on Oct 11, 2005 6:36 AM   
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If only I was 5 years older. All of the people everyone has recommended for the position of president are the wrong people. I have not seen anyone who currently holds a political office that would be the "real man/woman" mentioned in this article.

I feel like what we really need is someone who is currently running a successful local business. This person is respected by their employees because they know that their business depends on them. The business would have to change and grow (per the owner) to be successful in this day and age.

What's more that business owner would probably be more down to earth than any politician today. That is the kind of person we need. Someone like Oprah, someone that came up from poverty and truely knows what life is like on the other side of the tracks. I'm not suggesting Oprah as the choice, just an example.

Problem with most politicians that would be president is that they generally grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth. How does this identify them as a likely candidate. We need another Abraham Lincoln.

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» RE: Vote For Me Posted by: churchofone
» RE: Vote For Me Posted by: cstriker
The past is not encouraging
Posted by: jazzyjer on Oct 11, 2005 6:43 AM   
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History shows that women who attain political power tend to let their masculine sides come to the fore, i.e., Indira Gandhi and Margaret Thatcher and those two ladies in Sri Lanka who seem more interested in fighting each other than the Tamil Tigers. Elizabeth I chopped off heads and waged war as needed. Going back to Zenobia of Palmyra, women in power have been no more pacifistic or humanistic than their male contemporaries. Maybe it's because on their way up the ladder of power, women have to show they have the "balls" to keep up and it becomes their nature to be one of the boys.

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» RE: The past is not encouraging Posted by: Swatopluk
» Power is corrupting Posted by: eastcoker
Americans don´t want character
Posted by: Ely Whitney on Oct 11, 2005 7:56 AM   
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..be that person male or female or of a different race.

Americans are all about the packaging and not the product. It is all around in every workplace, every media outlet, you see those in the fore front who with a brain cell less would have a difficult time tieing their shoes but because they fit the image they have position.

It is all too often you hear people during an election campaign discussing who would best be the choice because of their looks, not whether or not they have the intelligence, the character and the moral fibre to lead. Am I being overly dramatic?? I do not think so..... Would Ghandi have made a great American leader, not likely because he dresses funny, Nelson Mandella, would he have made a great American leader, not likely because he is not the right color...and that list could go on, leaders with conviction of a purpose to do what is right, often not popular but as history proves their vision was impeccable, instead we have Retired movie actors, people who would best suit the crime underworld and a man who swaggers for an image that makes him appear manly.

Now we talk of the Hilary Clintons, Rudy G´s of the political world and it is image that we look for is not whether or not these are good people to the core. We as voters look at mere snipits in time, we see only what we want to see, the whole picture is there but we focus on but a few drops of paint on the so called canvas.

If we look at our leaders as some food product that which we are willing to purchase and take home with us, Americans need to start to look less at the packaging and more at the freshness and quality of the product period.

As far as the intelligence of GWB... I cannot help but return to a simple statement from the movie Forrest Gump....Stupid is as Stupid does... it fits the situation perfectly where Dubya is concerned.

again.....just one mans opinion

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Second line says it all
Posted by: cyclone on Oct 11, 2005 8:42 AM   
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"As one looks toward the next Presidential election, assuming that our democracy can survive this presidency....."

News Flash: If Boosh is allowed to finish his term, our democracy cannot survive this presidency. We are toast.

End of story.

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» Extreme thinking cyclone Posted by: eastcoker
"Where Have All the 'Real Men' (and women) Gone?"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Oct 11, 2005 9:00 AM   
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The author:
"A real man does not claim to reform Social Security by destroying it. He does not claim to advance our freedoms by limiting them."

In other words, a real man doesn't lie. In this regard ALONE, George Bush will NEVER be a real man, because practically all he has done to the american people is lie to them: Social Security "reform," WMD's, reasons for the 9/11 disaster, reasons for the Iraq occupation, trickle down economics/tax breaks for the rich, cuts in veteran's medical care, hiding the dead and maimed from Iraq, the "Swift Boat" smear against Kerry, the smear campaign against McCain, Bush's own military record and his desertion, his alcoholism. . .Gawd, the list just goes on and on and on. . . .

The fact is, this man's whole life is a lie, not the least of which is how he lies to himself with his false, dry-drunk feelings of self importance and how he conveniently ignores the fact that everything he's "achieved" his daddy got for him. But what disturbs me more is why a good portion of the american people are not "men" enough to see through their need for blind allegance and to be taken care of, and see this clown for who he really is: a sociopathic, snotty little boy "playing president" like some two-bit dictator.

That so many "good ol' boys" can still back this amoral idiot speaks volumes of what we have become as a nation. President Bush is OUR fault – and we need to be "man" enough to admit it.

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Heart touching article
Posted by: eastcoker on Oct 11, 2005 9:05 AM   
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Beautiful. Bravo! Bravo! Oh this softened my heart...This brought joy to my soul.
As one who you all know "flip flops" I was really heartened by this article...I feel a lot of shame my self as I think through difficult issues like gay rights and abortion as a progressive Christian. Well this morning I have clarified my position further...and that feels good...
It takes courage to stand alone, and sometimes that is what a real human being must do. A real human being must have the courage to stand up against institutional sexism and homophobia, even at great risk to the self.
Can George Bush do this?
No.
We need a President that can stand up to the bullies of the Rapture Right...And the bullies of big business. A principled person. A spiritual person. A tolerant person.
Can such a person be elected to be our next President?
I sure hope so.

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Can a Man Become President?
Posted by: beetruetoyou on Oct 11, 2005 9:32 AM   
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Yes, and his name is Barak Obama!! A real man that fits the description in your article and even more. Whether this country and our "elective process" will allow a person not owned by corporate America to be is the question, male or female.

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» Hell No!! Posted by: kittykat
It's a language problem:
Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Oct 11, 2005 9:42 AM   
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Once we accept "Real Man" as a paradigm for "all a good man should be" ... the best we can hope for is John Wayne.

Too often, we get Arnold Schwartzneiger -- or worse.

Trying to persuade John Wayne fans that Allen Alda is more of a Real Man than the Duke ... a waste of time.

The problem is: "nuance" is kind of "girly" ... that is to say, weak and contemptable. So how do we have a nuanced discussion of what English word might come closest to the meaning of "Menchkeit" -- and why that's a quality we want in our leadership?

Answer : "We can't, you wimp!"

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» RE: It's a language problem: Posted by: La Fargian
It is an exercise in futility
Posted by: russianblue1 on Oct 11, 2005 10:10 AM   
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This whole article starts out presuming that a man/woman can get elected. The system is so rigged by now that there may be an election in November with all the hoopla, but the person who moves into the White House may or may not receive a majority of the votes.

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» RE: It is an exercise in futility Posted by: La Fargian
True feminism
Posted by: canuckistani on Oct 11, 2005 10:16 AM   
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I am one of those men...and we are few...who think feminism has gotten a really bad rap because of a deep misunderstanding of what the whole thing is about. Its easy to say that women get into power and become just like men, so whats the big difference? I think this seriously misses the point. Almost all of our laws, institutions, government designs and paradigms, foreign diplomacy, the nature of the type of economy we use, myths we recycle through generations etc. etc. - practically everything we have to define us as a species - has been designed, written, enforced and upheld by the male side of the equation, generally by brute force, reinforcement of untrue steroetypes and systematic sidelining. This is fact. This indeed is the fact you need to sit and contemplate on before rushing to any judgements on what feminism is and what people mean when they talk about equal rights in a society. It's not about a paycheck, or girl-power, its about revising the institutions that have become enshrined within our societies and seeing if there is a better way, a way that creates a more balanced society.

Jay

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» RE: Bravo! Bravo! Posted by: eastcoker
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» RE: True feminism Posted by: AdamSelene11726
Democrats Have Several Good Choices
Posted by: Spyder on Oct 11, 2005 11:41 AM   
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Look around you. They're everywhere! Al Gore is the smartest of the bunch, and if anybody has already been cheated out of a win, it's him. Barrack Obama would be an excellent choice for VP. Give him time to gain a little experience. John Edwards is still a good, logical choice. He has all the usual qualities that can get a man elected. Kerry may run for the nomination, but he needs to develop a bit of spine separating him from the conservative DNC that supported him so much in '04. Hillary is a great lady, but '08 is not the time to try to get the first woman elected. The stakes are just too high!

http://e-tabitha.com/Horizon.htm

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Not 'Real Men' but True Human
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 11, 2005 12:33 PM   
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It's time we stopped letting the folks that have the most 'air-time' get elected. The current ruling class has no intention of letting Librety or Freedom reign on anyplace or Earth except within their own,very select social orders. The 'Real Men' of American History were lying, gonecidal maniacs. Pursuing
methods of control over true Liberty. Women,children,the poor,imfirm and elderly have always been the least concern for the ruling class. For their sole and only 'god' is money.
If we want real change we need to start loking for 'True Humans' to elect. They would make sure the air,the water and the ground would be unpolluted. Factories would become environmentally inert. Wealth would not be centeralized. The society would be raised from the bottom up. Healthcare,education,The environment and Social Security would become 'Off-Budget' fully funded programs. Minimum wage would be such that a one paycheck family could pay the rent and buy a weeks worth of food in one week's check. The Rights and Liberties of ALL PEOPLE would be respected and given the broadest possible application. The 'True Human' would wage Peace by actually Living It.Granting it to all peoples,all nations,all creeds for it is the birthright of all peoples in all lands. A 'True Human' would relieve all the worlds debts and end the nightmare of economic oppression.
So if you can't find anyone that wants to walk this talk,come get me because I will.

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Soulsong
Posted by: soulsong on Oct 11, 2005 1:56 PM   
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This excellent article reminds me of Lakshmi Chaudry's article
"THE WHIMP FACTOR" (AlterNet, Oct.29,2004) in which he says, "We have an administration that is, almost, congenitally
incapable of acknowledging a mistake, especially a mistake that involves failure to listen to advice-the proverbial refusal to ask for directions-imperils their manhood."

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A quibble about terminology
Posted by: Logic's Edge on Oct 11, 2005 2:34 PM   
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Someone who "flip-flops" either does so out of a lack of conviction and so is merely responding to external pressures or prevailing winds, or does so as an self-serving opportunist despite whatever that person's convictions might be.

A "real" (read honorable) man will stand by what he believes to be right despite heavy opposition. If he discovers he is wrong, he will admit it.

It's possible to be both an honorable man and on the wrong side of an issue by lack of perception (or simple stupidity). People often assert that Bush isn't the sharpest tool in the shed...

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I'm glad you raised this issue.
Posted by: sgtmartin1 on Oct 11, 2005 3:37 PM   
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Because I've been pondering it from a slightly different angle. Let's call it America's "fear fatigue."

You can’t call it terror if you’re not afraid of it.

...All the latest commotion was conveniently foreshadowed by the President a day earlier in a “major speech” on terror. It was a real stemwinder. I have the Cliff notes.

Bush said: “9-11…terror…assaulted by enemies…great evil…covered in smoke and ashes…fire across the Potomac…new terror offensive…kill children and the elderly…mortal danger to all humanity…like a parasite…as brutal an enemy as we’ve ever faced.” It’s the same pep talk he gives every time his polls plummet.

Doesn’t it seem odd that a President who conducts foreign policy like he’s trying to get in touch with his inner-cowboy would be so intent on turning his own country into a herd of spooked sheep?

But with Karl Rove curled up into a fetal ball awaiting the word of a certain grand jury, and the rest of the team either fending off the FBI or dusting off their curricula vitae, Bush is kind of on his own. So he’s playing the hole card, the only thing that’s ever worked for him. Be very, very afraid.

Terrorists, hurricanes, bio-agents, wild fires, housing bubbles, social insecurity, gay people getting married, be very, very afraid.

Now Bush is squawking about a military takeover when the Avian flu pandemic hits. How bad is it when we’re afraid of chickens?

Read "You can’t call it terror if you’re not afraid of it."

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Call to action. Stop the Republican Party.
Posted by: maximus on Oct 11, 2005 5:50 PM   
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Call to action. Stop the Republican Party.

http://tinyurl.com/8ghl8

http://tinyurl.com/b97vk

Where Republicans tread, innocent people end up dead.

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Remember George Wallace?
Posted by: Halaby on Oct 11, 2005 6:19 PM   
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I saw a Barbara Walters interview with George wallace many years back, where I was surprised to learn that Alabama Blacks were among his staunchest supporters. But I heard this out of his own mouth when he was asked about his role in segregationist politics: "I was raised to believe segregation was right, but I was wrong, and I'm sorry for all the people I hurt." No waffling, no evasions, no justificaions. He was a populist at heart, and he just included Blacks as people after that, and that was good enough for many of the people he had hurt in the past.

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Bush IS stupid!
Posted by: Doubtom on Oct 11, 2005 7:02 PM   
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--mostly correct, except where you state that Bush is not stupid.

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An alcoholic temperament
Posted by: yesman on Oct 11, 2005 8:29 PM   
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I applaud every word written in this piece. It is absolutely right on the money. Jimmy Carter was ten times the man that Dubya or Ronald Reagan could ever be. But Dubya suffers not just from intellectual laziness and utter lack of curiosity about the world. He also has a typical alcoholic temperament--his mind is completely fixed and rigid. He cannot tolerate change, and certainly cannot tolerate anyone else being in control of anything he can lay his hands on. He tries to buttress his ego by keeping himself and everything else around him fixed and changeless, and above all under his control. The problem, of course, is that life simply does not work that way. Change always happens anyway, no matter how hard you try to stop it. And without change, growth and evolution do not occur. A life without change is not life--it's death. Perhaps that's why his administration is so fixated on death--spreading death and destruction to Iraq, at least passively creating death and destruction in New Orleans, promoting death by restricting or eliminating medical research on stem cells, promoting life-destroying poverty for millions of Americans, restricting health care from the poor and aged so that many of them will die before their time, promoting unscrupulous and foolish business and industrial practices that kill and maim the plants and animals who share our planet, maintaining the black market in illegal drugs so that poor communities will be wracked by violence and death both in America and in other countries (Colombia, Afghanistan, etc.), and so on and on. I guess it's appropriate that he's a member of Skull and Bones.

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Who's At Fault
Posted by: TassieDevil on Oct 11, 2005 11:51 PM   
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The people we elect as politicians are anything but anonymous, but the people that elect them are. It is easy to go to a polling station of booth and vote for anyone, but not take responsibility when they turn out to be a bad choice.
Imagine if, when we voted, our vote were posted on the local Post Office wall or similar place. I'll bet we'd take a lot more serious an attitude to those we voted for then.
Remember, we the majority that vote are responsible for who gets voted in to power. The current Administration is simply and purely a reflection of all of us that voted.

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» RE: Who's At Fault Posted by: AdamSelene11726
Hey Alternet
Posted by: connect on Oct 12, 2005 6:47 PM   
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I was moved to sign up and join comments on this article. In the process I read these words which I would like to come back to them: AlterNet will not tolerate:
*personal attacks on our writers or readers
*excessive profanity
*racist, sexist or other discriminatory or hateful language
*comments that are off-topic or irrelevant to the story or discussion at hand [emphasis added]
Its really hard for me at this point not to break out in a rather sadistic yarn of sarcasm as I ponder the way to elloquently point out how obviously Yellen is missing the boat on any kind of gender consciousness. What if "real men" and "real women" presidents or not (and of course anyone who does not fit these restrictive catorgories are of no count) stop thinking in such black/white dichotomous, boxizing, narrow minded philosophies? What if instead of redifining masculansim we point out the shortcoming of such binary oppositions as gender? These dichotomies and the dangers of them mirrored in the us/them, evil/good, patriot/terrorist catogories that are called into question in this article.
Obviously our dear author, is coming from a privilledged back ground. This grand idea that is spewed out here is nothing but regression peeping out from under the wool of progressive thought. How can it be a good idea that we have a "humanist" president who believes that we all need to live up to some standard of a "real man"? In a pitiful attempt to address the idea of a woman president Yellen throws out "Perhaps a real woman can be a better real man". Thanks for that Yellen, but maybe the problem is that we got everybody only getting value in this society the closer they represent some "real man" (the rich white guy); maybe the issue is that everyone needs the value that our great American dream proscribes them instead of the reality where the further you are from the ideal (the rich white guy) the less of it you have.
Based on these statements I do not believe that this article lives up to Alternet's stated standards which require that comments may not be sexist or racist. Maybe that's just rules for the little people though.

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Hillary Clinton and Drug trafficking
Posted by: take pills on Oct 14, 2005 3:19 AM   
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has anyone here read much about the clintons cocaine drug trading through arkansas airports ?? click here to learn more

Well, I know, after I had the article posted on the World Wide Web, on the Internet, one journalist came back to me and said, “How can you even say that you’re responsibly reporting anything when you write something like this?”, and my answer to him was, “I delivered three kilos of cocaine to the man. Let’s talk about responsible reporting.” We delivered it in to Little Rock Air Force Base. We were met by three vehicles, a plain, unmarked police vehicle, which was driven by Buddy Young, a limo, and a van. Out of the limo stepped Dr. Lasater (sp?), who we delivered several coolers to. He walked over with another man, introduced the other man as the governor of Arkansas. We had two coolers, a heavy one, a light one marked “donor organs,” and the heavy one, it was all cocaine, and the light one, there was three kilos of cocaine and money. And a note saying “I owe you $25,000” that I stuck in there, sent the money to my friend and confidant Bill Colby, and Colby subsequently called me and said, “Stay out of it, Chip, let it go.”

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A big cultural problem in America.
Posted by: amadeus on Oct 16, 2005 8:58 AM   
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This 'cowboy' mentality, I believe, is one of the core issues facing our country. It is why the Bush administration bashed the French for supporting the Iraq invasion, it is why anyone who wanted to get inside the mind of Al Quaeda to better understand their motives was considered Unamerican. And it is why the Democratic party can't get out of their own way in a vein attempt at not looking too 'wimpy' on National Defense. I've always wondered why changing your mind about something was considered a weakness. If only Kerry stood up to the flip-flop charges and said "Damn right I changed my mind."

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god save the queen?
Posted by: bassman on Oct 16, 2005 9:49 AM   
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i would really like to spearhead a new constitutional amendment. what if we made it illegal for members of the same immediate family to be elected president! that way, we the people, could stop democraticly electing the same couple of families into power, over and over again. who knows anything about prescott bush and john walker?

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Woman...Man...
Posted by: whatsnext on Jan 19, 2007 7:59 PM   
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We do not ask for superman. We only ask for someone who is willing to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. Let them be woman or man; we should judge them based on their ability to lead, to govern, and to follow mandate when necessary. Maybe it's not always about acting like a man. What you describe by the term a "real man" is simply a competent and rational person. If we cannot ask this of the president, what may we ask?

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