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Civics Student...or Enemy of America?

By Matthew Rothschild, The Progressive. Posted October 7, 2005.


After a Wal-Mart employee turned in a high school student's anti-Bush poster to the police, the Secret Service came calling.

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Selina Jarvis is the chair of the social studies department at Currituck County High School in North Carolina, and she is not used to having the Secret Service question her or one of her students.

But that's what happened on September 20.

Jarvis had assigned her senior civics and economics class "to take photographs to illustrate their rights in the Bill of Rights," she says. One student "had taken a photo of George Bush out of a magazine and tacked the picture to a wall with a red thumb tack through his head. Then he made a thumb's-down sign with his own hand next to the President's picture, and he had a photo taken of that, and he pasted it on a poster."

According to Jarvis, the student, who remains anonymous, was just doing his assignment, illustrating the right to dissent. But over at the Kitty Hawk Wal-Mart, where the student took his film to be developed, this right is evidently suspect.

An employee in that Wal-Mart photo department called the Kitty Hawk police on the student. And the Kitty Hawk police turned the matter over to the Secret Service. On Tuesday, September 20, the Secret Service came to Currituck High.

"At 1:35, the student came to me and told me that the Secret Service had taken his poster," Jarvis says. "I didn't believe him at first. But they had come into my room when I wasn't there and had taken his poster, which was in a stack with all the others."

She says the student was upset. "He was nervous, he was scared, and his parents were out of town on business," says Jarvis. She, too, had to talk to the Secret Service.

"Halfway through my afternoon class, the assistant principal got me out of class and took me to the office conference room," she says. "Two men from the Secret Service were there. They asked me what I knew about the student. I told them he was a great kid, that he was in the homecoming court, and that he'd never been in any trouble."

Then they got down to his poster.

"They asked me, didn't I think that it was suspicious," she recalls. "I said no, it was a Bill of Rights project!"

At the end of the meeting, they told her the incident "would be interpreted by the U.S. attorney, who would decide whether the student could be indicted," she says.

The student was not indicted, and the Secret Service did not pursue the case further.

"I blame Wal-Mart more than anybody," she says. "I was really disgusted with them. But everyone was using poor judgment, from Wal-Mart up to the Secret Service."

When contacted, an employee in the photo department at the Wal-Mart in Kitty Hawk said, "You have to call either the home office or the authorities to get any information about that."

Jacquie Young, a spokesperson for Wal-Mart at company headquarters, did not provide comment within a 24-hour period.

Sharon Davenport of the Kitty Hawk Police Department said, "We just handed it over" to the Secret Service. "No investigative report was filed." Jonathan Scherry, spokesman for the Secret Service in Washington, D.C., said, "We certainly respect artistic freedom, but we also have the responsibility to look into incidents when necessary. In this case, it was brought to our attention from a private citizen, a photo lab employee."

Jarvis uses one word to describe the whole incident: "ridiculous."

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CIVICS 101
Posted by: ssegallmd on Oct 7, 2005 12:16 AM   
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Here this student was trying to illustrate his right to free expression and instead he illustrated that he does not have that right any more. A+ on the high school civics assignment, kid. Wait until his parents get back and ask him what he learned at school!

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Sums up America, actually.
Posted by: sovinformburo on Oct 7, 2005 12:42 AM   
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Spreading freedom and democracy...... sounds like a stalker talking about "relationships"

Hey wake up! The world ain't buying it any longer.

The USA is no longer the solution. It has become the problem.

It's choking on ......freedom fries ! Yeah, man, pass me that bong for another hit

Incredible.

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» RE: Sums up America, actually. Posted by: earthmother
» RE: Sums up America, actually. Posted by: GirlCousin
It is forbidden to criticize our Dear Leader!
Posted by: Strephon on Oct 7, 2005 1:41 AM   
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Anyone still want to argue that the USA is not rapidly becoming a fascist state?

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adp3d
Posted by: adp3d on Oct 7, 2005 3:28 AM   
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I guess its time to start calling them "The Secret Police"...

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civics 101
Posted by: walldodger69 on Oct 7, 2005 4:34 AM   
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This is geting down right F%$king UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!

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No More Freedom
Posted by: Just Me on Oct 7, 2005 4:43 AM   
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I cannot believe that a Wal-Mart employee turned him in. Wal-Mart has enough problems and if someone thought this was going to improve their image they were incorrect.

Someone objected to this poster, but these same people didn't object when newspapers were running the old-West style poster of Osama Bin Laden (Wanted Dead or Alive) in support of what Bush said.

Talk about double standards. We want to import our brand of humanity to the rest of the world by force, but our brand of humanity stinks.

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» RE: No More Freedom Posted by: Doubtom
Ridiculous, Indeed
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 7, 2005 4:53 AM   
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Walmart, Walmart, Uber Alles...Well for the love of Mitch Miller, what the hell's the matter with these people?? The whole thing is so mind numbingly stupid that one hardly knows what to say! I can't believe that, given the enormity of their responsibilty that the SS, er, Secret Service has this much time on his hands. I've written alot of negative things on the internet and in the various papers that are not complementary of George W. Bush - I mean, let's face it, there's not a hell of alot to be complementary about. That's not to mention several call ins on CSPAN's Washington Journal. Does this mean the Secret Service is investigating me? Let me save them a little bit of work. As Dick Gregory once said when he found out that the Feds were tapping his telephone, "I ain't into nothin'"! Assasins, if we are to believe history tend to be, shall we say, "rightwar leaning"? Most of the martyrs of the twentieth century - Dr. King, Malcom X, John Lennon - tended to be progressive in their thinking. Think about it! Who was the Right's last martyr? George Lincoln Rockwell! 1964!! (And a fine man he was - GAG!) I pray everyday for the safety of President Bush. I am against murder in every form. Period. And, let's face it, the last thing the Right needs is their own Bobby Kennedy. That would be too much to bear.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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VE KNOW VERE U LIF!!
Posted by: jrmart66 on Oct 7, 2005 5:19 AM   
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And does anyone subscribed to this site think that they are NOT on some ss list? i fully expect to soon be denied my right to fly.

Hey, MOVE ON people, bloggers, do you feel "watched"??

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» RE: VE KNOW VERE U LIF!! Posted by: Samantha Vimes
Our government protects us (not!)
Posted by: MDLOP8 on Oct 7, 2005 5:27 AM   
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George: so your Secret Service comes to investigate a kid who puts up a poster of you? Hey, moron, isn't this why you REALLY invaded Iraq? Because Saddam had a mosaic of your father on the floor of one of his palaces so that people could walk on it?

So: the Secret Service is going to investigate people who dislike you and express it? You'd better plan on arresting 70% of the country who are fed up with your lies and deceptions over the way that you're handling our foreign affairs, let alone matters at home.

By the way, you STILL will be known as an incompetent leader too.

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Watching me, watching you
Posted by: Erin on Oct 7, 2005 5:31 AM   
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Does anyone else see the parallel here with what happened in Nazi Germany, where neighbors, friends, even relatives turned in each other? And, yes, I believe that the SS have got all of us from this website (and anyone else expressing their freedom of speech) on their watch list.

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Why would any democrat be foolish enough to run for president in 2008?
Posted by: shangrilalad on Oct 7, 2005 5:50 AM   
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Why would any democrat be foolish enough to run for president in 2008?


After a decade of republicans running congress and five years of Bush Corp., there’s nothing left to steal. Sure, democrats could keep printing funny money until it takes a SUV loaded to the roof to buy a loaf of bread, but the consequences of all the incompetence and corruption are likely to cause economic collapse even before Bush retires to somewhere safe, like the Bahamas. The next president will inherit a quagmire and be faced with nearly insurmountable problems and extremely limited options. Borrowing your way back to solvency doesn’t work for the average family and isn’t likely to work for a nation, not one that wishes to remain sovereign. Increasing the tax rate on the rich to 90% might help, but at this point, even that wouldn’t solve our debt problems.

We are so close to an even Greater Depression, it might be wiser for democrats to sit out the next presidential election and let a modern day Hoover take the brunt of the people’s rage. Now, even more than then, the political fallout could have dire and long lasting political consequences for the party the people decide to blame. Better to let the republicans reap what they have sown.

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seefleur
Posted by: seefleur on Oct 7, 2005 6:01 AM   
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So this is just an example of the real definition of "Homeland Security" - thanks to the "Patriot" Act, we've become a fascist nation under God... sad and terrifying. Talk is cheap - we need to DO, not discuss. Where are the leaders who can get this country back to what the Founding Fathers intended??? This can't continue - our children deserve better than this! We, the people, deserve better than this.

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Good example of Wal-Mart culture
Posted by: sausage on Oct 7, 2005 6:14 AM   
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This story give me another reason for not shopping at Wal-Mart. I know it's like whipping the sea to get the tides to stop, but I haven't stepped foot in a Wal-Mart since 2001.

The tragedy of Wal-Mart culture is that it appeals to the lower middle class, working folks whose incomes are bearly above the "official" poverty line. Not only do these folks shop there, they work there and I think we've all read about Wal-Mart's low, low wages. For me, a trip to Wal-Mart is like going into an elitist SS owned business staffed by working-class SA Brownshirts.

Now don't go overboard, I realize not all Wal-Mart employees have bought into the corporate culture. But many do and remain loyal to the company, until they themselves are screwed by management. Wal-Mart is George Bush's Amerika. It is our futrue if we don't do something now.

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» RE: Good example of Wal-Mart culture Posted by: beetruetoyou
So who is to blame? What was the correct response?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Oct 7, 2005 7:01 AM   
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Our tax dollars going to pay to fly spooks into suburbia to check on a kid in civics class--that's goofy. Really goofy.

Who was to blame and what should've been done differently? The Wal-Mart photo person, who has been hammered with "If something looks wrong, SPEAK UP", the supervisor, who would tell you he's just doing his job, or the store supervisor, who turned it over to the local authorities?

I would place the blame for the goof on the sheriff, an elected law enforcement officer who is supposed to serve as a buffer between the citizens under his jurisdiction and the spooks from the fed. A sheriff, under our government, enjoys specific responsibilities and has special authorities outside of the executive branch that most folks don't really understand or appreciate...

...and the sheriff punted by taking what he or she probably considered the "prudent"--better safe than sorry--route of forwarding the information to the spooks.

So the spooks took your tax dollars, bought a plane ticket to suburbia, investigated (that's their job), realized there wasn't a threat, and left.

Again, a decent sheriff would have put the brakes on the whole thing well in advance. That there are some gullible idiots (gullible no doubt, but the line between an idiot and a prudent individual is arguably blurred in this instance) working for WallyWorld shouldn't be surprising--isn't WallyCo the largest employer in the U.S.?

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Walmart SS
Posted by: GirlCousin on Oct 7, 2005 7:20 AM   
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The Bush regieme and fans had better realize that when someone as crooked as George Bush is elected, lies his way into a war for profit, and undercuts the entire social welfare system in this country, he had better be happy that all that is happening is non-violent dissent. Walmart also should realize that too many incidents like this may encourage more people to boycott them. I haven't bought anything there for over a year and am weaning the rest of my family off of them. My 80 year old mother drives to the next town to shop rather than go to Walmart

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Suspicous art, Wal Mart, and the police state.
Posted by: Aaron on Oct 7, 2005 7:20 AM   
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Secret service and Wal Mart lackeys alike, I eagerly await your arrival. Contact me at citizensubject.com. Kisses.

suspicious art

Wal Mart

police state

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» RE: Love your T's! Posted by: Aaron
The Bush Legacy continues...
Posted by: MTguy on Oct 7, 2005 7:21 AM   
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This is right up there with the totally random airport searches where an 80 year old granny is virtually strip searched. I am sort of surprised that they didn't catch that poster in the Patriot Act web of intrigue!

I hate to say it but I, for one, am no longer proud to be an American citizen. I'm ashamed for the level that Bush and his administration have let our nation fall to. Where are the days when the USA did the right thing even when it was the most difficult thing to do given all the options? For at least three years out, the horizon is pretty dark.

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HIGHER EXPECTATIONS WEEK
Posted by: American Maid on Oct 7, 2005 7:31 AM   
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One way to combat this ridiculous state of affairs is to join "Higher Expectations Week" now against Wal-Mart which includes screening the new film by Robert Greenwald, "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price" next month (November 13-19).

http://walmartwatch.com
http://www.walmartmovie.com

Get a copy of the movie and have a popcorn party (or several) at your place with all your friends, neighbors, co-workers, family and then have them show the film to their circles.

Wal-Mart is behind a lot of things going on in this Neo-Con world including repeal of the Estate Tax; attacks on Public Education (and their unions) with pushes for charter schools and government funded vouchers for religious (read Christian) schools; lower taxes for the rich; Terry Shiavo fiasco; right to work; Heritage Foundation (among others); repeal of workers' rights and protections; the overtime law; and many, many others.

How the Waltons spend $100 BILLION

The transportation bill just passed allocates like 37 million to build Wal-Mart headquarters in Arkansas a new access road. Do they really need our money?

Think Wal-Mart spent a lot on Katrina? Something they should have done anyway and with their attack on the government just part of why essential services are so bad these days... But it is nothing compared to what they spend on lobbying the government, including for laws to rollback tough state Meth laws, and at 3.7 million a day, everyday, on PR Katrina was a huge bargain for them and much less than they're getting for that access road alone.

When is the last time you saw a Costco ad?

How about a negative Wal-Mart story on ABC?

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IT begins this way
Posted by: Ahimsa on Oct 7, 2005 7:42 AM   
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Fascism begins when every single member of society becomes an agent of opression.
Ridiculous it was, but alarming.

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I'm sure that...
Posted by: NamVeT on Oct 7, 2005 7:44 AM   
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all of us on sites like this or Americablog.com, etc. are being and have been watched since the first post! This country is going down the tubes faster than the water going into New Orleans. This administration in total should be locked up now, without a trial (do you think they would give us one). Hell no, they would lock us up in Gitmo. Bushie is without a doubt the most ignorant fucking idiot I have ever known to be in public office, and he should indeed be IMPEACHED along with the rest of his "partners in crime". I await the knock on my door just like the rest of you....

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Anti-Bush Poster Child
Posted by: sisyphus.lives on Oct 7, 2005 7:47 AM   
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Did the student get back the poster?

Perhaps it can be donated to AlterNet who can have it made into a T-shirt. The poster on the front and some creative wording on the back.

We are doomed by our own government stupidity.

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The President is Insane!!!!
Posted by: stoney13 on Oct 7, 2005 7:59 AM   
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Of course he's crazy!! You'ld have to be a lunatic to want the job!!

What do you expect to get!!! Think about it!!! We can't have lunatics running the country!!!! (That's what you think!!)

By the simple act of running for the office, you have proven that you are unqualified to fill it!!

Nuts are paranoid!! That's part of what makes them... well...nuts!!!

Paranoid people are likley to make knee-jerk actions regardless of the rationale that such actions will cause more problems than they solve!! (Like... WELL... IRAQ!!!)

Who's next? Another f**kin' nut!!! Bet the farm on it!!!!!!!

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Surprised...Why Should We Be..It's Bush
Posted by: doneman2000 on Oct 7, 2005 8:07 AM   
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this country, since Bush was selected, has traveled down a road of secrecy coupled with dishonesty. Granted, with Bushs vast propagnda network it is sometimes difficult to know just what the truth is. Quite possibly Bush doesn't even know what the truth is...My God has there ever been a president as unenlightened or as uncaring as Blue Blood Bush. I certainly doubt it. With terrorists behind every corner we have time to investigate chit like this or busting medical marijauna patients. Yep gotta go after those harden criminals, right George?

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a contrarian view
Posted by: pturet on Oct 7, 2005 8:16 AM   
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I for one don't really think this merits all the hoo-hah. A picture of anyone with a red thumbtack on their forehead is not really a cogent political statement. I mean, where's the reasoned analysis? I hold no brief for Bush, believe me, far from it. But in this day and age, the reactions of Wal-Mart (would the story be different if it were Walgreen's?) and the Secret Service don't seem out of line. After all, they let the kid go. Let's hope they didn't open a dossier on him a la J. Edgar Hoover.

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Actually
Posted by: Ahimsa on Oct 7, 2005 8:49 AM   
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On second thought,
Yes, it is ridiculous what the retarded Wal-Mart employee did.
But the Secret Service?
Shouldn't they be a tad more sophisticated?
Cheesh!

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Bush's World
Posted by: packofwolves on Oct 7, 2005 8:49 AM   
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And you thought Bush was trying to spread democracy throughout this world. Ha! He's taking away our freedoms at every opporturnity and he's using terrorist-style fear tactics and the wrath of God to keep your attention focused elsewhere. Wake up country, you could be next! Bush wants to be the dictator, or didn't you hear that speech?

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» RE: Bush's World Posted by: royrogers
Wal Mart invalids and the government
Posted by: mortarthegovernment on Oct 7, 2005 8:56 AM   
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Morons working together to protect America. The sad thing here is, that the Wal Mart worker probably thinks they are doing the right thing and believes in Bush. I guess lying to people and building up their "patriotism" is the key to getting things done. "When ignorance reigns life is lost." Canada, Baby!

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SS in school
Posted by: cyclone on Oct 7, 2005 9:09 AM   
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Only in today's America. Another case of well spent money and manpower. Unfrickin believable.

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See where we are, where we're headed
Posted by: helenwheels on Oct 7, 2005 9:29 AM   
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Everyone should read
the 14 warning signs of fascism

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Orwell turning in his grave
Posted by: canuckistani on Oct 7, 2005 9:30 AM   
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well people, its time to brush off those old dusty copies of 1984. Might as well start reading up and figuring out how to stay off the grid, its likely to get worse.

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Everyone should send a picture like the students to G.W. and Walmart
Posted by: shojimon on Oct 7, 2005 9:39 AM   
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says it all. Shojimon in Portland OR.

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A similar SS foray
Posted by: jwg on Oct 7, 2005 10:11 AM   
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