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All Fired Up

By Laura Flanders, AlterNet. Posted September 26, 2005.


The war protests in Washington showed that public outrage is a pretty good organizing principle -- but not enough to gel a popular movement.
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For me, the protest weekend began in New York City, when Amtrak suspended all train service to D.C. from Boston, New York City and Philadelphia, because (the man on the loudspeaker said) of "a switcher problem." At 7 a.m., scores of strangers -- stranded travelers -- swapped conspiratorial suspicions and tried to figure out what to do next. The rest of the day had much the same taste.

Organizers, including the AFL-CIO (which signed onto the call for action,) deserve credit for calling the largest anti-war demonstrations since the US-Iraq invasion. (Estimates of 300,000 to 500,00 in Washington don't seem outlandish. Thousands more took to the streets of Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego and other cities in this country and in Europe.) But the crowds in D.C. didn't come because any group summoned them, nor did the majority of the participants march behind an institutional banner. They carried hand-made signs, or pictures, or no signs. They were fired up, but they were not necessarily hooked up with any group.

It's sometimes organizer spin, but on September 24, it was startling just how many people said this demonstration was their first against the Bush administration, or simply their first. United for Peace and Justice and the ANSWER Coalition attracted a long laundry list of virtuous demonstration co-sponsors, but in a solid hour of talking to the stream of passing marchers, I found none with any relationship to any formal organization, unless you count the "Raging Grannies" and Code Pink.

Tag Gornell from Vachon Island near Seattle told the Laura Flanders Show: "I heard about this march from Air America Radio and was thrilled, and made the decision, I'm just gonna come. ... I am part of no group. I just came as me. But I see that I'm apparently bigger than I thought I was. There's 300,000 of us.

"This is my first protest and I am very encouraged," said Pat Kunkell, of Detroit.

"I don't even know where I heard about the protest, but I decided now was the time to come to Washington. I came and I brought my mother, just the two of us," said Karyn Riedell, of Arizona. "It's my mother's first protest ever. She's a Republican but she hates Bush."

As in Crawford, at Camp Casey, at the heart of the crowd were military families. A nervous young man in full Marine uniform, walked alone. Someone attached the pictures of dead U.S. service-people onto an almost 2,000-photo-long string. State Senator Becky Lowry of Minnesota walked the line of with the headshot of her son, Matthew Lowry who was killed in Iraq on May 26. Just ahead of her in line walked her grandson Scot, at his first protest. "Uncle Matt went back to Iraq twice because he said his men needed him with them," said Scot, aged 10 or 11. "I still barely peek at the loss," said Lowry, "The day my daughter-in-law called to say "It's Matt." I couldn't believe it. ... The loss I feel is no different from the loss each Iraqi mother feels. It's the same."


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Laura Flanders is the host of the Laura Flanders Show on Air America Radio and author of Bushwomen: Tales of a Cynical Species.

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speaker quality
Posted by: matty on Sep 26, 2005 11:14 AM   
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I was in Washington this weekend and something struck me about the Progressive movement as displayed publicly: it needs to do a much better job at expressing itself. I know this is an easy point to make, as it refers to a blatantly obvious need to form a cohesive, unified message, but it also speaks to who we are willing to let represent us. This is not a critique of the people who spoke, but merely their ability to speak publicly and with the force of a voice that might move millions. The same sort of problem was evidenced in many parts of the day: grassroots volunteers likely skilled and passionate at some things seeming dispassionate in their publicly viewed tasks. It's really tough because you want to include those people that have worked their asses off to get things going, but you also want that finished product to do the most that it can to move towards peace. It hurt to make this observation because I really wanted to like what I was seeing, but sloppy speaking is sloppy speaking, no matter how much we love and agree with you.

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I know when they will start opposing this war!
Posted by: nitsua1023 on Sep 26, 2005 2:09 PM   
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The war WILL COME TO OUR FRONT DOOR, and the longer we fight, the more likely it will become. When Timothy McVeigh came home from the GULF war, he apparently had a message for his government. How many more McVeighs will come home with a message after this war? A highly decorated marine named Daniel Cotnoir got home from Iraq a few months ago and opened fire on a crowd in a night club in Boston. I am a person who knows the difference between supporting the troops and supporting the war. Our troops are not to blame for the mess they are in. But they are the ones paying the enormous psychological tolls. When day and night is about survival and killing for years on end, you never recover. I pity them. Lots of people won't want to socialize with vets when they come home. They will have lost everything, most importantly their sanity.

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VOLUNTEERED SLAVERY
Posted by: nitsua1023 on Sep 26, 2005 2:17 PM   
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What is slavery, but becoming the de-humanized property of another? Troops are government property. So what more is war than volunteered slavery?

For more than 200 years, the leisure class in this country couldn't have had it their way without slaves to do the work.

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» RE: VOLUNTEERED SLAVERY Posted by: Uncle Crabby
Much thanks to you and your Air America peers (almost peers?)
Posted by: guijackb on Sep 26, 2005 2:37 PM   
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It certainly helps to finally have a progressive (LIBERAL!) radio network that can get both news and commentary out to so many areas.
As Air America, and hopefully other network and local Liberal talk shows become more prevalent, people who have only been FOXED will have a chance to think of an alternative, better nation.
For now, having you speak out for the true American values each weekend (and maybe more?) is a pleasure for us.
Thanks!
Jack Ballinger
Blue Collar Politics

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I caught more of the speeches Saturday on radio than...
Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 26, 2005 8:34 PM   
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...I've listened to Air America, ever. (Sorry. I no longer have the stomach for AM radio commercials: CALL ###. DID YOU GET THAT NUMBER ###, ETC. )

So the fact that the speakers Saturday weren't clever enough to live up to your expectations of entertainment means didly squat. I think we have enough critics of the anti-war movement already. If you need blood, try crime reporting or staged war videos.

Reminds me of the cameraman who stood over the truck driver bleeding in the street of South Central LA in 1992 focusing his camera. Surely you recognize how dehumanizing the "if it bleeds, it leads" business is. (Or maybe you should try some other line of work for a while: take 10!)


Yes, great leadership is hard to find. And when we find it, it's an invitation to assassination -- whether by bullets or by corrupt politicians. So until great leadership comes along, we have to settle for good leadership.

I cannot get enough of Jesse Jackson. Does that make me weird? He's one heck of a leader. And so are many of the others who were there Saturday. As a radio listener, you can stick most of those 'man-on-street' interviews in your ear. I'd rather hear those who came to speak than those who came to listen. It's the difference between a real leader and a member of the peanut gallery.

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What does it take?
Posted by: Urstrly on Sep 27, 2005 4:50 AM   
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ANSWER has grabbed the public face of leadership in this movement for one apparent reason: there is a vacuum. Every time they speak, it's angry and dogmatic, but those of us who attended this march know that it was much more than that, a real tribute to Cindy Sheehan's clear message that we must hold our leadership accountable. Where others see disarray, I see an outpouring of creativity and strong analysis. What's missing is some sign of life from the "opposition" party. Where are you Howard Dean? While our senators posture about the safest way to preserve themselves, our cherished democracy is slipping away.

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Protest the war and everything else
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Sep 27, 2005 5:28 AM   
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No matter the "conservative" tap dance, this war is about oil. The best way to stop this war, and to avoid the next one, is to separate corporations from our government. As long as special interest groups are allowed to finance political campaigns they will control the government. They will control tax policy, they will control environmental policy, they will decide when and where we go to war. The real fight is for control of the government. Voters can and must join together to take control from campaign contributors. join the revolution

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agitator church and state
Posted by: eileenflmng on Sep 27, 2005 6:04 AM   
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In the immortal words of Christian Revolutionary, Phillip Francis Berrigan:
"If enough Christians actually followed the gospel they could bring ANY STATE TO ITS KNEES!"

The gospel is non-negotiable for believers: You must forgive to be forgiven, you must love your enemies, you must do good towards those who hate you, you must care and comfort the poor, oppressed, prisoner, widow, orphan and the sick.

"The Revolution starts now, where you work and where you play, where you lay your money down, in what you DO and what you SAY, the revolution starts NOW"-Steve Earle

"I see people standing round like furniture"-Bob Dylan

Do Something...
www.wearewideawake.org

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Apathy?
Posted by: 42Years on Sep 27, 2005 6:31 AM   
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that most of us are constantly running just to keep up with a way of life created for us by our society (aka, the federal government)? We are apathetic, docile, selfish little people who keep ourselves insulated from reality by denying it. Why, I bet since Katrina and Rita most Amerians haven't given much thought to what is happening in Iraq. We are taught early on to pay attention to what is in front of us. And most of us get information on the world around us from the national news outlets. Sprinkle in the comics and advertisements and we are good little consumers who don't want to make trouble unless trouble comes knocking at our front door. Most of us just want to be left alone. That's apathy knocking at the door and it's exactly the way the government wants it.

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Baffled to Fight Better ....
Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Sep 27, 2005 3:37 PM   
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What does a Peace Movement have to do to be heard these days? Is it just nostalgia on my part, or did the Marches of the 60s and 70s actually get attention.

This last one, not only did Bush leave town ... the entire Democratic Leadership Council and Friends was nowhere to be seen.
My local newspaper is Newsday ... a notoriously "liberal" rag, if the conservative whiners are to be believed. Guess how they covered the Washington march on Monday morning:

They gave about 1/4 of a page, with photo, with pull quotes, with interviews to the SUNDAY demonstration.

The Sunday demonstration? What Sunday demo?

That was the one in SUPPORT of troops, the war, the president, -- and get this -- 400 people showed up for it. I say again: four hundred. Count to ten forty times ... that's how many.

On Saturday there were One to three hundred THOUSAND (depending on which counter you believe)

By Monday, that wasn't news.

I just don't know how to deal with that.

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» Nixon left town,too .... Posted by: kww355
Check this out - DOD comments
Posted by: concernedak on Sep 27, 2005 5:00 PM   
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My father, a proud member of the Alaskan Veterans for Peace organization, wrote the DOD last week. Here is the text of their correspondence:

My dad: "How do you prepare young soldiers to overcome the grief and shame that many experience as a result of their participation in an illegal and immoral war in which they engage in such activities as "interrogation" (torture) of prisoners, blowing up civilian automobiles at check-points, etc.?"

DOD:"Philip,



Thank you for your Service to our Great Nation!



Do not worry, we prepare all of our soldiers as far as what to expect and how to live but the Army values in basic training, (Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage).



Since it is our duty to uphold the rules of war and ensure that we handle ourselves and treat others with the highest respect; I believe that shows how prepared we are to put others well being above our own. The honor we show in protecting freedom along with the willingness to fight for the right and everyone in our country shows the personal courage and integrity that is portrayed by every soldier everyday.



So I think we all are greatly prepared to protect your freedom along with ours since that is the loyalty that as a soldier we have. Once again thank you for your service and take care. Also feel free to e-mail any more questions you may have about the Army.



Respectfully,



Mr. Christopher Ledesma

Cyber Recruiter

United States Army Recruiting Command

www.goarmy.com



Being a Soldier strengthens you today and for the future because the Army develops your potential through relevant and challenging training, shared values and personal experience. Soldiers consistently take pride in making a difference for themselves, their families and the Nation."

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