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Are Coaches the Answer to White-Collar Unemployment?
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Where to begin? My first foray into the world of job searching, undertaken at my computer on a gloomy December afternoon, is distinctly intimidating. These days, I have gathered from a quick tour of relevant web sites, you don't just pore over the help-wanted ads, send off some résumés, and wait for the calls. Job searching has become, if not a science, a technology so complex that no mere job seeker can expect to master it alone.
The Internet offers a bewildering variety of sites where you can post a résumé in the hope that a potential employer will notice it. Alternatively, you can use the net to apply directly to thousands of companies. But is the résumé eye-catching enough? Or would it be better to attempt face-to-face encounters at the proliferating number of "networking events" that hold out the promise of meaningful contacts?
Fortunately, there are about 10,000 people eager to assist me -- "career coaches" -- who, according to the coaching web sites, can help you discover your true occupational "passion," retool your résumé, and hold your hand at every step along the way. The coaches, whose numbers have been doubling every three years, are the core of the "transition industry" that has grown up just since the mid-nineties, in a perhaps inevitable response to white-collar unemployment.
Unlike blue-collar people, the white-collar unemployed are likely to have some assets to invest in their job search; they are, in addition, often lonely and depressed -- a perfect market, in other words, for any service promising prosperity and renewed self-esteem. Some coaches have formal training through programs like the Career Coach Academy's fifteen-week course; others are entirely self-anointed. You can declare yourself a coach without any credentials, nor are there any regulatory agencies looking over your shoulder -- which means that, for the job seeker, it's the luck of the draw.
I find Morton on the web, listed as a local career coach, although -- as I will soon learn -- most coaching is done by phone so there is no need for geographic proximity. Morton has been there, is my thought. The background material that he sends me shows a history of what appear to be high-level, defense-related jobs, including, somewhat datedly, "Senior Intelligence Analyst and Branch Chief Responsible for Analyzing Soviet Military Research." He has given seminars at Carnegie Mellon University and spoken frequently at Kiwanis and Rotary clubs. Surely he can guide my transformation into the marketable middle-level professional I aspire to be. Besides, he assures me, I will not have to pay for our first, trial session.
I have no trouble recognizing him at Starbucks in Charlottesville's Barracks Road Mall; he's the one wearing the JMU baseball cap, as promised, a description that encouraged me to come in rumpled gray slacks and sneakers. The top is better, though -- black turtleneck, tweed blazer, and pearl earrings -- which I am hoping will pass as "business casual." Flustered by being five minutes late because my normal route to the mall was blocked by construction, I stumble over my new name in the handshake phase. He appears not to notice. In fact, he doesn't seem to be much into the noticing business or perhaps already regards me as a disappointment.
After exchanging some observations on the pre-Christmas parking situation at the mall, I lay out my situation for him: I do public relations and event planning, I tell him, but I've been doing it on a freelance basis and am now seeking a stable corporate position with regular benefits, location flexible. How to present myself? Where to begin?
I pull out the résumé that I completed over the weekend and slide it across the table toward him. In the worst-case scenario, he will grab it and quiz me on it while holding it in such a way that I will be unable to refresh my memory with an occasional glance. But he regards the stapled papers with only somewhat more enthusiasm than if a fly were advancing across the table toward his arm. Maybe he can tell without reading it, by the very format of the pages -- the lack, as I now see it, of bullets and bolding -- that it isn't worth a serious coach's attention.
But he is bringing something out of his briefcase -- an 8 1/22 x 11 inch transparency -- which he places methodically over a sheet of white paper so that I can read: "Core Competencies and Skills," or "the four competencies," as he refers to them. These are Mobilizing Innovation, Managing People and Tasks, Communicating, and Managing Self. This must be what I need -- an introduction to the crisp, linear concepts that shape the corporate mind. I am taking notes as fast as I can, but he assures me that he will leave me with copies, so I am free to focus on the content.
The next transparency features a picture of a harness racer and horse, and reads:
Clear mind, skillful driver
Sound spirit, strong horse.
Strong body, sound carriage.
Mind, body, spirit work as one ... Path to victory is clear.
The syntax is a bit disturbing, particularly the absence of articles, which gives it a kind of ESL feel, but if modem-day executives can derive management principles from Buddhism or Genghis Khan, as the business sections of bookstores suggest, surely they can imagine themselves as harness racers. The horse, driver, and carriage, Morton is telling me, symbolize Head, Heart, and Gut, but I miss which one is which. This is going to be a lot harder than I anticipated. Already, the four competencies are leaking away from memory, or maybe it should be self-evident that Mobilizing Innovation equals Head or possibly Gut.
With the next transparency, things take a seriously goofy turn. It's titled "Three Centers of Intelligence" and illustrated with characters from The Wizard of Oz: the scarecrow, representing "Mental," the tin man, representing "Emotional," and the lion, representing "Instinctual."
When he teaches his course on "Spirituality and Business," Morton is explaining, he does this with dolls. That was his wife's idea. She said, "You should have dolls!" and you know what? She went out and found them for him. I profess to being a little sketchy about my Wizard of Oz, and Morton digresses into the back story on the tin man, trying to recall how he got such a hard "shell." All I can think is that I'm glad he didn't bring the dolls with him, because Starbucks has gotten crowded now and I wouldn't want it to look like I'm being subjected to some peculiar doll-based form of therapy.
But while I am still struggling to associate the tin man with Emotional and so forth, we move away from Oz to the Enneagram, which is defined in a transparency as:
A description of personality types
Based on ancient learning about motivation
A diagram easily learned and applied
Provides clues about moving toward balance.
The visuals here feature a figure composed of a number of connected triangles enclosed in a circle. I feel a dizziness that cannot be explained by the growing distance from breakfast, and not a single question occurs to me that might shed some light on the ever-deepening complexity before me. Somehow, the Enneagram leads to "The Nine Types," which are also the "nine basic desires or passions." Perhaps sensing my confusion, Morton tells me that, in his course, the Enneagram takes a lot of time to get across. "It's more or less a data dump."
I furrow my brow and nod. All around us, money is being exchanged for muffins in mutually agreeable amounts, and the corporate world continues to function in its usual mindlessly busy, rational way. But the continuance of the corporate enterprise is not something, I realize for the first time, that you can necessarily take for granted. Not if its underlying principles emanate from Oz.
It's a great relief when the higher math of the Enneagram gives way, in the sequence of transparencies, to the familiar Wizard of Oz creatures, now seen decorating a series of grids labeled "Emotional Centered Types," "Mentally Centered Types," and "Instinctual Centered Types." On the left side of each grid are five entries, the most intriguing of which is "distorted passion," described by Morton as a "bad passion," or one that you have to recognize and overcome.
For example, the lion has as one of its distorted passions "Lust for life. I want to experience and control the entire world," while the scarecrow is potentially burdened with "Avarice -- I keep knowledge to myself to avoid being seen as incompetent. " I interrupt to ask why keeping knowledge to oneself is called avarice, and he replies evenly, "Because it's keeping something to yourself. "
Then I notice among the distorted passions, "Gluttony -- I can never get enough experience." In among the wanderings of Dorothy in Oz and the "ancient learning" of the Enneagram, Morton -- or the inventor of the Enneagram -- has managed to weave the Seven Deadly Sins.
What all this leads up to is that I have to take a test, the Wagner Enneagram Personality Style Scales (WEPSS), which will reveal my personality type and hence what kind of job I should be looking for. I already told Morton what kind of job I'm looking for, but obviously not in a language that fits into his elaborate personal metaphysics. I'll take the test at home, send it to him, and then meet for an evaluation. The whole thing will cost $60.
So the search for a career coach who can actually help me with the mechanics of job searching continues. I register at the CoachLink web site, which nets me three e-mags offering coaching services and one phone call. I go with the phone caller, Kimberly, whose web site describes her as "a career and outplacement consultant, trainer and writer" -- for showing initiative -- and agree to a weekly half-hour session by phone at $400 a month, or $200 an hour. My "homework," due on our first session, is to "fantasize" about my ideal job. What would my day be like at this ideal job?
It's not a bad assignment. Everyone should take some time for utopian thinking, and what better occasion than when you have nothing else to do? So I fantasize about a small- to medium-size company with offices in a wooded area, mine looking out on a valley and rolling green hills. An espresso cart rolls around every morning and afternoon; there's an on-site gym to which we're encouraged to retreat at least once a day, and the cafeteria features affordable nouvelle cuisine.
None of that goes into my written fantasy, however, which focuses on finding a balance between the intense camaraderie of my "team" and periods of creative solitude in my office, which of course has a door -- no cubicles for me. I put myself in charge of my team, over which I wield a collegial, "empowering" form of leadership. I am utterly fascinated by my work, whatever it is, and frequently carry on till late at night.
Kimberly, when our first session rolls around, is "excited" by my résumé, "excited" by my fantasy, and generally "excited" to be working with me. I get high marks for the fantasy job: "You're very clear about what you want! Many clients don't get to this stage for months. I think you're going to be a quick study." Already, the excitement level is beginning to exhaust me. In my irritation, I picture her as a short-haired platinum blonde, probably wearing a holiday-themed sweater and looking out from her ranch home on a lawn full of reindeer or gnomes.
As for how she sees herself: "I've gone through some branding processes, and I realize the brand you're getting from me is wildly optimistic, fiercely compassionate, and totally improvisational." I am to think of myself in the same way -- as a "brand," or at least a product.
"What do you do in PR?"
I let a beat go by, not sure if this is a test of whether I am actually what I claim to be. But this turns out to be her MO -- the teasing question, followed by the dazzlingly insightful answer: "You sell things, and now you're going to sell yourself!"
Looking down at my sweatpants and unshod feet, all of which is of course invisible to Kimberly, I mumble about lacking confidence, the tight job market, and the obvious black mark of my age. This last defect elicits a forceful "Be really aware of the negative self-talk you give yourself. Step into the take-charge person you are!" Now comes the theoretical part. She asks me to think of two overlapping circles. One circle is me, the other is "the world of work," and the overlapping area is "the ideal position for you." "What you need is confidence," Kimberly is saying. "You have to see the glass as half-full, not half-empty." I draw the overlapping circles as she speaks, then redraw them so that they are almost entirely overlapping, thus vastly expanding my employment prospects.
Our half an hour is drawing to a close, I note with relief. She thinks I will need three months of coaching, meaning she will need $1,200. This will be a lot of work for me, she says, because she practices "co-active coaching," which is "very collaborative." "I want you to design me as your best coach," she says, perhaps forgetting that she has already been not only designed but "branded." If I were "designing" her, I'd throw in a major serotonin antagonist to damp down the perkiness, and maybe at some point I will find a tactful way to suggest that she chill. The session has left me drained and her more excited than ever: "We'll dance together here!" is her final promise.
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Posted by: LMuney on Sep 27, 2005 6:39 AM
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I am a fitness and wellness coach. While some of my materials ask people to "envision their perfect life" (or body), what that does is let me (and them) understand what they are truly looking for. Sometimes the client doesn't know what he/she wants... and this method gives them "permission" to think about it.
Yes, I know all about those "co-active coaches". I also know that many coaches have certifications which cost them between $2000-$14,000, not including their expertise in the field.
However, coaching shouldn't be complicated, nor should it involve too much psychology for the client. It SHOULD be a series of goals PLUS the steps towards those goals. If a client does not leave a session feeling refreshed, energized, and with a list of things to accomplish (ie: pushing him/her forward), that coach was a complete bust.
If a coach seems TOO new-agey, run away.
Think of a little league coach. That coach teaches his little players how to hit the ball. Sometimes there's a pep-talk. Sometimes there's drugery of practice. Sometimes he answers questions. But the best coaches help the clients (or players) ASSESS difficulties and CHANGE THEM.
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Posted by: Pix on Sep 27, 2005 7:22 AM
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Yes, the workplace is changing. People require things like flex-time, they want to be valued for their individual creativity and talents, they want to be fulfilled. And once the basic material needs are met (and then some, in the case of the white-collar worker), intelligent, motivated people want to be able to give something back. They're trying to make this important and legitimate psychological and emotional shift without making any kind of sacrifice (often, this sacrifice is money, benefits, title, status, success however you define it). Emotionally fulfilling and satisfying work with our material needs and desires met is a rare thing, but a coach insists anyone can have it with their help and guidance.
I think that coaching has its place, but its techniques and tools come from other arenas in life that are best left there. I would like to see a better blend and balance between work and personal life (I think most people have a real need for that, if only for the sake of their sanity) but I don't for a moment think that it is an employer's responsibility to provide that for me, no matter how many techniques a coach might suggest, and no matter how much a coach says it's possible to have.
Positive thinking, knowing yourself, behavior modification, developing talents - all wonderful things to help you get where you're going, but in the end it's about supply and demand, the boring bottom line, what you can bring to the market that someone is willing to pay for. There's no mystery there, and nothing that can't be provided by a good friend, supportive spouse, a journal, self-determination, discipline, belief in yourself.
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Posted by: terrillrj on Sep 27, 2005 9:12 AM
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Now retired, I worked for many years helping people change careers. I got the idea of helping others by taking a career and life planning development course myself, taught by John Crystal, a career changing guru of the 1970s and 80s, written up by Time Magazine.
He taught two things: Look for a job that utilizes the skills you do best and the skills you like to do the most. He met with you personally insisted that you brainstorm from a "tabula rasa" perspective. So I started from scratch, eliminated my pre-existing ideas about what I should want to do, and brainstormed my life history for things I like to do and things I did best. Out of this a resume was born.
John Crystal, along with Richard Nelson Bolles, another great career counselor of that era. taught a very sophisticated method of networking. In fact, they used the word "networking" thirty years ago when it was almost unheard of in job changing circles.
With these tools, along with other taught exercises, I found that job doing what I wanted to do where I wanted it to do it, utilizing the skills I did best.
John Crystal taught serendipity in networking. Here's how it worked for me. In a real estate office, in the community I had chosen to live, I met a man who needed help with an electrical installation problem in the home he was building. I took his card and put it in my billfold. I discovered that I was going to have the same problem. I found the solution and called him several weeks later after I had returned home from my job hunting trip. He returned my call to thank me. I told him that I wanted to work in his community and what I wanted to do. Some months later he contacted me, called me in for an interview, and within two weeks I started working in my new position.
From that time on I helped others by using the techniques I learned from John Crystal from McLean, Va.
So to all the career changers out there, there are legitimate counselors that are available. But you have to be very, very careful. Look long and hard before you choose.
Bob Terrill
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"One Market Under God" by Thomas Frank
"The Great American Jobs Scam: Corporate Tax Dodging and the Myth of Job Creation" by Greg LeRoy
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Posted by: RavenSteele on Sep 27, 2005 10:38 AM
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Over 90% of our clients get jobs, and we work with some of the most difficult populations to work with. High school drop outs, teenage mothers, and displaced homemakers. The easiest for us actually, are dislocated workers....people laid off or downsized due to no fault of their own. Our Dislocated Worker unit has a 100% placement rate. We also believe that education should go hand in hand with that so we operate a GED classroom, workshops that provide useful information about resume writing, interviews, and the labor market; not bullcrap new age self help.
Philisophically, I feel that it is the governments responsiblity to facilitate any American's desire to transition between jobs. Not required, just offered in case someone might need help finding a job. While you spend 10 to 20 years at a job, the market around you has changed and when you have to go back into you its a nightmare. Having the infrastructure in place to facilitate a quick transition from one job to another or just into the workforce at all is not a fantasy.
I would like to take this oportunity to point out that we are a corporation, albiet a small one. We operate under strict federal guidlines and consistantly out perform our government counterparts. If we can do it, so can all these giant corporations and Bush's administration that want no regulations
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And, in the end, you are still unemployed, the career coach, employemtn agency, or financial advisor is that much richer and you are left with less than you had when you started. How does this get you a job, and bring back your confidence; how does this pay the your bills?
For me, surviving has meant borrowing on the life insurance, e-mailing an average 60 resumes a month, fighting to hang onto my house and what I have left, waiting for the phone to ring (and hope its not a billcollector but a job interview), and facing the prospect of getting a job as a "greeter" at the area Wal-Mart before my unemployment runs out. With all this pressure, who needs "wolves and jackals" trying to separate you from the little money you have left.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 27, 2005 12:44 PM
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Ehrenreich's job seems to be to expose failure. So, does that mean, like Edison on his way to the light bulb, she now knows a thousand ways not to find a job?
It sounds to me as though she has found a thousand ways to sell her books, entertain, entertain, entertain -- all at someone else's expense.
No thanks, at least for the moment. I'm not yet that desperate. But I expect that she'll find a million suckers who are.
My cynicism is always heightened by coaches who sell admission so they can teach us how to get a job, get rich, etc. If they really knew how to do such things, they'd give it away free.
True, Americans lose interest when things are given away. (Just look at the educational opportunities being neglected.) We are sick puppies. Yes, PT, a sucker is born every minute in the US. How else would the Repugs survive?
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 27, 2005 2:55 PM
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Actually, career-coaching – or more accurately, life coaching – for today's world of outsourced white-collar careers and immigrant-dominated "joe jobs" is as close as your nearby street corner, and a lot cheaper: because the way the job market is going, most of us in the future will need the coaching of the homeless, to teach us how to live out of a cardboard box and eat out of a dumpster. . . .
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Posted by: magistre on Sep 27, 2005 9:07 PM
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Organization is the only way the individual can hope to stand up to the corporation. You (who've lost their jobs have already seen this,too late) have no other option, unless you like living the life of a slave!
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Posted by: Donna Aitoro on Sep 28, 2005 7:58 AM
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It’s too bad Ehrenreich’s book is so superficial and disengaged. Any good counselor will tell you that it’s the relationship that matters, and in not humanizing or giving any depth to any of the people with whom she chose to work, professionally, Ehrenreich may scare off people who need the human contact – not to mention knowledge about the nuts and bolts of job search and career management, that we never get taught – that spouses, friends, or books may not be able to deliver, for a variety of reasons. And that’s unfortunate.
The world of work has changed, that’s for sure. Read William Bridges' JOBSHIFT, which is not even that new, to see how the labor marketplace is becoming what he calls "dejobbed." Professionals have to be entrepreneurs, in ways they never had to before. Loyalty to companies (an old organizational model) is better substituted by figuring out how a position is going to enhance one's skill sets, and marketing yourself, accordingly. To not do so in a commercial culture focused on the bottom line is professional suicide. Find niches to put your skills into, after you articulate them. Explore other possibilities to expand your competencies.
On another note, the process of self-assessment is one that most people don't spend enough time on. Yes, there are some methods out there that cheapen the practice, and they should be exposed for platitudinous, superficial, expensive pap they are. But most people I know couldn't name their skills if they walked up and shook hands with them, as Richard Bolles says. Such explorations, along with a good resume that doesn't overstate one's ability or use language the owner doesn't understand, CAN help one's mobility in the marketplace. There are some good theories out there about what makes a resume able to capture more "eye time,” whether from a computer or a human.
Po Bronson's WHAT SHOULD I DO WITH MY LIFE? can help with soul-searching, and WORK TO LIVE is another book that might help avoid the soul-deadening work so many middle-Americans, both socioeconomically and age-wise, seem to be suffering from.
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Posted by: LMuney on Sep 27, 2005 6:39 AM
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I am a fitness and wellness coach. While some of my materials ask people to "envision their perfect life" (or body), what that does is let me (and them) understand what they are truly looking for. Sometimes the client doesn't know what he/she wants... and this method gives them "permission" to think about it.
Yes, I know all about those "co-active coaches". I also know that many coaches have certifications which cost them between $2000-$14,000, not including their expertise in the field.
However, coaching shouldn't be complicated, nor should it involve too much psychology for the client. It SHOULD be a series of goals PLUS the steps towards those goals. If a client does not leave a session feeling refreshed, energized, and with a list of things to accomplish (ie: pushing him/her forward), that coach was a complete bust.
If a coach seems TOO new-agey, run away.
Think of a little league coach. That coach teaches his little players how to hit the ball. Sometimes there's a pep-talk. Sometimes there's drugery of practice. Sometimes he answers questions. But the best coaches help the clients (or players) ASSESS difficulties and CHANGE THEM.
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Posted by: Pix on Sep 27, 2005 7:22 AM
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Yes, the workplace is changing. People require things like flex-time, they want to be valued for their individual creativity and talents, they want to be fulfilled. And once the basic material needs are met (and then some, in the case of the white-collar worker), intelligent, motivated people want to be able to give something back. They're trying to make this important and legitimate psychological and emotional shift without making any kind of sacrifice (often, this sacrifice is money, benefits, title, status, success however you define it). Emotionally fulfilling and satisfying work with our material needs and desires met is a rare thing, but a coach insists anyone can have it with their help and guidance.
I think that coaching has its place, but its techniques and tools come from other arenas in life that are best left there. I would like to see a better blend and balance between work and personal life (I think most people have a real need for that, if only for the sake of their sanity) but I don't for a moment think that it is an employer's responsibility to provide that for me, no matter how many techniques a coach might suggest, and no matter how much a coach says it's possible to have.
Positive thinking, knowing yourself, behavior modification, developing talents - all wonderful things to help you get where you're going, but in the end it's about supply and demand, the boring bottom line, what you can bring to the market that someone is willing to pay for. There's no mystery there, and nothing that can't be provided by a good friend, supportive spouse, a journal, self-determination, discipline, belief in yourself.
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Posted by: terrillrj on Sep 27, 2005 9:12 AM
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Now retired, I worked for many years helping people change careers. I got the idea of helping others by taking a career and life planning development course myself, taught by John Crystal, a career changing guru of the 1970s and 80s, written up by Time Magazine.
He taught two things: Look for a job that utilizes the skills you do best and the skills you like to do the most. He met with you personally insisted that you brainstorm from a "tabula rasa" perspective. So I started from scratch, eliminated my pre-existing ideas about what I should want to do, and brainstormed my life history for things I like to do and things I did best. Out of this a resume was born.
John Crystal, along with Richard Nelson Bolles, another great career counselor of that era. taught a very sophisticated method of networking. In fact, they used the word "networking" thirty years ago when it was almost unheard of in job changing circles.
With these tools, along with other taught exercises, I found that job doing what I wanted to do where I wanted it to do it, utilizing the skills I did best.
John Crystal taught serendipity in networking. Here's how it worked for me. In a real estate office, in the community I had chosen to live, I met a man who needed help with an electrical installation problem in the home he was building. I took his card and put it in my billfold. I discovered that I was going to have the same problem. I found the solution and called him several weeks later after I had returned home from my job hunting trip. He returned my call to thank me. I told him that I wanted to work in his community and what I wanted to do. Some months later he contacted me, called me in for an interview, and within two weeks I started working in my new position.
From that time on I helped others by using the techniques I learned from John Crystal from McLean, Va.
So to all the career changers out there, there are legitimate counselors that are available. But you have to be very, very careful. Look long and hard before you choose.
Bob Terrill
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Posted by: RavenSteele on Sep 27, 2005 10:08 AM
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Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 27, 2005 10:31 AM
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"One Market Under God" by Thomas Frank
"The Great American Jobs Scam: Corporate Tax Dodging and the Myth of Job Creation" by Greg LeRoy
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Posted by: RavenSteele on Sep 27, 2005 10:38 AM
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Over 90% of our clients get jobs, and we work with some of the most difficult populations to work with. High school drop outs, teenage mothers, and displaced homemakers. The easiest for us actually, are dislocated workers....people laid off or downsized due to no fault of their own. Our Dislocated Worker unit has a 100% placement rate. We also believe that education should go hand in hand with that so we operate a GED classroom, workshops that provide useful information about resume writing, interviews, and the labor market; not bullcrap new age self help.
Philisophically, I feel that it is the governments responsiblity to facilitate any American's desire to transition between jobs. Not required, just offered in case someone might need help finding a job. While you spend 10 to 20 years at a job, the market around you has changed and when you have to go back into you its a nightmare. Having the infrastructure in place to facilitate a quick transition from one job to another or just into the workforce at all is not a fantasy.
I would like to take this oportunity to point out that we are a corporation, albiet a small one. We operate under strict federal guidlines and consistantly out perform our government counterparts. If we can do it, so can all these giant corporations and Bush's administration that want no regulations
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Posted by: wrogal on Sep 27, 2005 11:53 AM
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And, in the end, you are still unemployed, the career coach, employemtn agency, or financial advisor is that much richer and you are left with less than you had when you started. How does this get you a job, and bring back your confidence; how does this pay the your bills?
For me, surviving has meant borrowing on the life insurance, e-mailing an average 60 resumes a month, fighting to hang onto my house and what I have left, waiting for the phone to ring (and hope its not a billcollector but a job interview), and facing the prospect of getting a job as a "greeter" at the area Wal-Mart before my unemployment runs out. With all this pressure, who needs "wolves and jackals" trying to separate you from the little money you have left.
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Posted by: ConnecttheDots on Sep 27, 2005 12:30 PM
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Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 27, 2005 12:44 PM
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Ehrenreich's job seems to be to expose failure. So, does that mean, like Edison on his way to the light bulb, she now knows a thousand ways not to find a job?
It sounds to me as though she has found a thousand ways to sell her books, entertain, entertain, entertain -- all at someone else's expense.
No thanks, at least for the moment. I'm not yet that desperate. But I expect that she'll find a million suckers who are.
My cynicism is always heightened by coaches who sell admission so they can teach us how to get a job, get rich, etc. If they really knew how to do such things, they'd give it away free.
True, Americans lose interest when things are given away. (Just look at the educational opportunities being neglected.) We are sick puppies. Yes, PT, a sucker is born every minute in the US. How else would the Repugs survive?
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 27, 2005 2:55 PM
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Actually, career-coaching – or more accurately, life coaching – for today's world of outsourced white-collar careers and immigrant-dominated "joe jobs" is as close as your nearby street corner, and a lot cheaper: because the way the job market is going, most of us in the future will need the coaching of the homeless, to teach us how to live out of a cardboard box and eat out of a dumpster. . . .
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Posted by: Michiganman on Sep 27, 2005 5:30 PM
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Posted by: magistre on Sep 27, 2005 9:07 PM
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Organization is the only way the individual can hope to stand up to the corporation. You (who've lost their jobs have already seen this,too late) have no other option, unless you like living the life of a slave!
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Posted by: Donna Aitoro on Sep 28, 2005 7:58 AM
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It’s too bad Ehrenreich’s book is so superficial and disengaged. Any good counselor will tell you that it’s the relationship that matters, and in not humanizing or giving any depth to any of the people with whom she chose to work, professionally, Ehrenreich may scare off people who need the human contact – not to mention knowledge about the nuts and bolts of job search and career management, that we never get taught – that spouses, friends, or books may not be able to deliver, for a variety of reasons. And that’s unfortunate.
The world of work has changed, that’s for sure. Read William Bridges' JOBSHIFT, which is not even that new, to see how the labor marketplace is becoming what he calls "dejobbed." Professionals have to be entrepreneurs, in ways they never had to before. Loyalty to companies (an old organizational model) is better substituted by figuring out how a position is going to enhance one's skill sets, and marketing yourself, accordingly. To not do so in a commercial culture focused on the bottom line is professional suicide. Find niches to put your skills into, after you articulate them. Explore other possibilities to expand your competencies.
On another note, the process of self-assessment is one that most people don't spend enough time on. Yes, there are some methods out there that cheapen the practice, and they should be exposed for platitudinous, superficial, expensive pap they are. But most people I know couldn't name their skills if they walked up and shook hands with them, as Richard Bolles says. Such explorations, along with a good resume that doesn't overstate one's ability or use language the owner doesn't understand, CAN help one's mobility in the marketplace. There are some good theories out there about what makes a resume able to capture more "eye time,” whether from a computer or a human.
Po Bronson's WHAT SHOULD I DO WITH MY LIFE? can help with soul-searching, and WORK TO LIVE is another book that might help avoid the soul-deadening work so many middle-Americans, both socioeconomically and age-wise, seem to be suffering from.
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