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Challenging the Times

By Greg Mitchell, Editor & Publisher. Posted September 20, 2005.


What will it take for the New York Times to call for withdrawal from Iraq?
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What will it take, exactly, for The New York Times to declare on its editorial page that the United States should begin to bring to a close its adventure in regime change and national building Iraq? Other newspapers face the same question, of course, but as the nation's leading journal, and with plenty of influence -- at least in elite and left-liberal circles -- any shift by the Times is sure to have wide repercussions.

It wasn't long ago that the Times was actually calling for more U.S. troops in Iraq. Lately it has made no sweeping calls, up or down. But considering recent events, you'd expect a ringing call to disengage at any moment, especially since there is some evidence that at the Times -- in contrast to, say, The Washington Post -- the editorialists actually ponder what's in their own news pages. And those pages have been filled with plenty of fodder for arguing in favor of a phased withdrawal.

Just yesterday came news of the murder of a Times reporter/photographer, Fakher Haider, in Iraq. Surely this is not reason enough for the U.S. to withdraw from Iraq -- but look at the circumstances. Haider was apparently killed not by insurgents or terrorists or even run-of-the-mill Sunnis or Baathists, but by Shiite militia and police ostensibly aligned with "our" side. Freelance American journalist Steven Vincent died under the same circumstances in August.

These two killings took place in Basra, long described as one of the major success stories in Iraq. In today's edition, the Times said the city "has grown increasingly violent, with a complex web of sectarian agendas playing itself out almost daily on the streets." Shiite militias, reporter Robert Worth noted, are even fighting British troops.

Just last week, the Times looked inside another "model" city, Najaf, and found similar or worse problems there, with reconstruction projects "hobbled by poor planning" and "corrupt contractors." Sure, these cities are relatively calmer than Baghdad, but is this reason enough to justify a never-ending U.S. presence? And what of all the new tales of rampant corruption or missing billions elsewhere in that land?

Then there's the cost of the Katrina catastrophe. The Times has lamented the true budgetary trainwreck that the hurricane will cause under the current Bush plans, or maybe under any scheme. If it was once true that we could not afford to fight a foreign war while also boosting homeland security, it is now certain that the hurricane recovery makes this impossible. Added to the possible costs: Some people actually want to spend a lot more money on reducing poverty.

The longterm post-Katrina threat to the American economy and our children's futures is enormous. So: Will the Times declare that it is not just desirable, but imperative, that we start to end our hideously costly occupation of Iraq?

If it did that, it could (and no doubt would) say that it does this with a heavy heart -- while pointing out that several years of sacrificing our treasury, and the lives and limbs of thousands of Americans, is quite enough to give the Iraqis a good head start on solving their own problems. And, more than ever, our own people need our help now.

The American public, if not the editorial boards of most newspapers, seem to understand this well enough. Polls in the past week clearly show that they want to shift spending from the New Iraq to the Old South.

Now, it's true that neither newspaper editors nor public officials should blindly follow public opinion on any matter. Yet it is startling to note the disconnect between public views of Iraq, as gathered by pollsters, and what opinion leaders and, even most Democratic politicians, are willing to declare.

Every major poll, for quite some time now, has revealed that the majority of American people feel that 1) invading Iraq was a mistake 2) based on misleading information or lies and that 3) things are going poorly for the U.S. in Iraq because 4) President Bush is handling the war badly so 5) we should immediately begin withdrawing. About 1 in 3 Americans take the "radical" position of a complete pullout ASAP.

The Times editorial board surely agrees with points one through four -- yet has not yet make the logical conclusion that is #5.

I haven't even mentioned other concerns, such as the loopholes in the Iraqi constitution, the new Iraqi leaders' possible alignment with Iran, and the coming threat to women's rights (all previously denounced by the Times). And if the Times needs just one more reason to shift course, surely it is provided in the fresh evidence, from the federal response to Katrina, that this gang occupying the White House does not deserve, and can not be trusted, to continue to carry out our open-ended commitment in Iraq. How many more years of "Rummy, you're doin' a great job," can we take?

For the sake of our physicial and financial security here at home, something has to give: and that something must be Iraq. Come on, New York Times board. We know you can say it. Probably, you even want to.

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Greg Mitchell is editor of E&P and author of seven books on politics and history.

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MAN!!!! I love the prose on this one and it expresses my sentiments so well!
Posted by: WhatNow? on Sep 20, 2005 4:03 PM   
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I'm too busy at the moment to comment thoroughly on this article at this time but I will a little later. Thanks Greg and thank you Alternet for such a concise and relevant article.

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Here we go, I'm ready to vent.
Posted by: WhatNow? on Sep 20, 2005 6:47 PM   
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"What will it take, exactly"

That's a very good question. Maybe like Monty Python, a 16 ton weight would do the trick? Or perhaps a sledgehammer to the cranium? Or would just swift kick in the ass make you brown nosers do the job? Are you so afraid of losing your job that you are unwilling to be objective and critical? I've sacrificed my job for much lesser principles than the devastion of a country (Iraq). Also I probably have nothing in assets compared to shills that write for the times.

"calling for more U.S. troops in Iraq."

I've got no more than "you *ucking scumbags!" Is that the best you have?

"plenty of fodder for arguing in favor of a phased withdrawal."

What kind of ruthless imperialist are you bums?

"killed not by insurgents or terrorists or even run-of-the-mill Sunnis or Baathists, but by Shiite militia"

I knew as soon as this BS started that we (neocons, the US in general) could care less about democracy. Of course a democratic vote in Iraq would produce a Shiite government that would be highly critical if not downright hostile towards the US.

"even fighting British troops."

Of course they are! We should have learned from the lesson those damn limeys learned 80 years ago. Unfortune for the UK the were stupid enough to follow our lead on this debacle.

"rampant corruption or missing billions elsewhere in that land?"

plus the slaughter of Iraqi citizens! This is the reason I would watch with a cruel sense of justice if the neocons (bechtel, haliburton, and the bush adminstration just to name a few) suffered the same fate as mussolini. I abhor violence but I could watch them stoned with a hope of a better world without them.

"budgetary trainwreck that the hurricane will cause"

Yep, this rampant capitalism and corporate welfare have totally *ucked us citizens of this country. Think how totally impotent we'd have been in the early 1940's had FDR espoused these greedy principles of the neocons.

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And more
Posted by: WhatNow? on Sep 20, 2005 6:48 PM   
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"Some people actually want to spend a lot more money on reducing poverty."

That's interesting. I'd love our country to be so interested in reducing poverty as our government has been with the war on drugs and terror. Corporate amerika has totally blinded most people to value of hemp and the futility to war on drugs.

"hideously occupation of Iraq?"

I had to drop one word from that statement. Hussien did a far better job than the bush administration in providing Iraqis with a higher standard of living. Under Hussien most had access to clean water and electricity. There were no where near as many suffering disease, malnutrition, and lack of education. Iraqis HAD a high literacy rate and low infant mortality rate. Do they now?

"neither newspaper editors nor public officials should blindly follow public opinion on any matter."

You are not kidding! There are so many mean spirited, poorly educated, and stupid people in this country that they condone if not rejoice in the bush administration policies. My greatest enemies are the mean and ignorant masses of this country, not some tyrant in the middle east or storm in the gulf.

"things are going poorly for the U.S. in Iraq because"

Going back to the last paragraph, how many citizens would just fine if we were raping and pillaging Iraq with little resistance? Even if our imperialism was going well, I'd still be extremely ashamed of us as a nation. I was against this before it started and always will be.

"coming threat to women's rights"

DAMN!!!! More shame to pile on all the other garbage we've already caused. Oh, btw, I am male. There is no reason a person should be denigrated just because they are female. I have had plenty of beefs with women but it had nothing to do with their gender. It was totally attritbutable to their behavoir. AND, the people that have hurt and pained me the most are the same race and gender as myself. I know of who to be most wary.

"gang occupying the White House does not deserve, and can not be trusted,"

Well, I learned that about 11:00 A.M. CST, 9/11/01. I figured those assholes in the bush adminstration, defense department, FBI, and CIA were totally incompetent. Sadly now, I fear they are not incompetent but complicit. That means our federal government is murderous and some at best are complicit.

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My apologies to any progressive who think I'm too hostile
Posted by: WhatNow? on Sep 20, 2005 6:50 PM   
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Oh and btw, FUCK RUMMY!!!!

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