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Teaching In America: The Impossible Dream

By ZP Heller, AlterNet. Posted September 15, 2005.


Many public school teachers today must work two jobs to survive, and can't afford to buy homes or raise families. A new book asks why we treat our teachers so poorly.
Teaching In America: The Impossible Dream
Teaching In America: The Impossible Dream

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The new book Teachers Have It Easy, which collects roughly 200 interviews with educators from around the country, couldn't have a more ironic title. Co-written by former teachers Daniel Moulthrop and Nínive Clements Calegari, and author Dave Eggers (A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius), the book highlights the bleak reality that not only are America's teachers grossly underpaid, but that teaching is simply not a sustainable profession it its current form.

Through compelling accounts, Teachers Have It Easy dispels one of the biggest myths about teaching in public schools -- that the paltry salaries educators receive are adequate compensation for summer vacations and "shorter work days." Instead, the book paints a Dickensian picture of our educational system, in which teachers routinely work 10-12 hour days that don't end when the dismissal bell rings.

The idea for the book arose from conversations between Eggers and Calegari, co-founders of the non-profit 826 Valencia, which offers tutoring and writing workshops for youth. (A new center, 826NYC, recently opened in Brooklyn.)

"The idea was Dave's to begin with," Moulthrop told me. "When he was in his twenties, he had friends, including his sister, who were teachers and loved their work. For them it was the best job on the planet. A few years later, they all quit because of the money. It was just a travesty."

Eggers' friends were not the only ones who discovered how impossible it can be to eke out a living as an educator. A recent study by the University of Pennsylvania, as noted in the book, found that 46 percent of teachers leave within their first five years. Such high turnover and instability undoubtedly wreaks havoc on public schools and their respective communities, in which teachers play a vital role.

"If teachers are just leaving at the peak of their game," Moulthrop says, "their students were ill-served by the system."

While Moulthrop is a noted journalist, and Eggers' reputation is well known in the literary world, Teachers Have It Easy succeeds because it allows the underpaid, unappreciated teachers to speak for themselves.

Take Jonathan Dearman, who was the only African American teacher at San Francisco's Leadership High School, a public charter school. Dearman, like so many public school teachers, was beloved

because he devoted everything to a job he loved. He often worked 70- to 80-hour weeks because it was "the only way he could come close to feeling successful." In addition to teaching, Dearman set up an informal support club for minority students, in some cases becoming a surrogate parent.

"There was a teacher who was integral to the culture of school and the community," Moulthrop said of Dearman. "He set absolutely the highest standards ... kids failed his class and yet they still did all of the work all year long."

After five years as a teacher, however, Dearman, who has a master's degree in education, was making just over $40,000 a year. As is often the case with public school teachers, Dearman neglected his wife and kids to raise other people's children. He also accrued $15,000 in credit card debt, most of which was spent on supplies for the classroom. At times, Dearman even sacrificed his own health because his world revolved around his students. Once he forgot his daily insulin injection and ended up spending a night in the hospital. Still, he made it to school the next morning in time to teach all day.

Now a realtor, Dearman makes about $80,000 -- double the annual salary he earned as a teacher -- in only two months. Yet it was his newfound liberty that Dearman recalled as being the major upside to leaving the field of education. "That was one of the first things I realized when I got out of teaching," he said. "I can leave when I want to. I can go to the bathroom when I want, I can go get a cup of tea when I want, and I can eat when I want. I couldn't do that when I was a teacher."

As Teachers Have It Easy points out, about 20 percent of public school teachers have to take a second job because they want to continue teaching at all costs. Rachel Cross, who teaches history and algebra at Oneida Middle School in Oneida, Tenn., had to clean houses for a year when tutoring and teaching summer school didn't offer enough supplemental income. As a single mother, she frequently brought her son along. "I have cried several times," Cross confessed, "and it's like, you're on your knees [cleaning] this toilet, and you're almost praying, praying that it'll get better, that you won't have to do this forever. But at the same time, you've got to be thankful, because this'll be an extra $30. It's a tank of gas, or it may be part of your co-pay if your child gets sick."

After a while, the exhausting hours and second jobs, coupled with the added headache of taking more courses at night in order to reach a higher salary level, take their toll on our teachers. The book explains that another major reason so many teachers leave the profession early on is to marry and start families. With the cost of raising a child approximately $10,000 per year, a teacher's pathetic salary simply will not do.

Teachers Have It Easy also explores the effects that the high turnover of teachers has on students. The book contends that the majority of the seven million Americans who are either in prison or are on parole had problems that can be traced back to their educational experience.

To back that assertion, the authors cite the Perry Preschool Study, in which 58 impoverished children from Michigan who were deemed likely to fail in school were given the opportunity to attend a high-quality preschool with the best educators before matriculating to Perry Elementary, a local school. The study also tracked another 65 students who did not attend preschool before entering Perry. Not surprisingly, a larger percentage of the students who attended the top-quality preschool performed better in standardized tests, graduated from high school, and went on to lucrative careers.

"If you take the Perry example and just did it in elementary schools," Moulthrop exclaims, "let's say you couldn't afford to do it everywhere, but just in elementary schools ... my god, who knows what could happen!"

With a direct link between the school drop-out rate and the number of individuals who end up in the penal system, it would behoove society to pay teachers more money in order to lure the best educators and ensure that more students go on to become positive contributors to society.

There are other issues that continue to plague public schools besides low teacher pay. Overcrowded classrooms, a critical shortage of resources and a pervasive lack of respect for teachers from both students and parents are just a few of the problems that make teaching in public schools so difficult. Moulthrop feels, however, that those issues are hard to separate from the desperate need for higher salaries.

"The quality of chalkboards, where the bathrooms are, where the desks are, all of that is profoundly important," he says. "We decided to focus on teacher pay, though, because it's a clear example of the deficiencies in our educational policy. If payroll is where you're going to be spending the lion's share of the education budget, you really want to be attracting the top people to the profession."

Calegari, who taught for over a decade in three different public schools around the country, firmly shares Moulthrop's sentiment. "We can't base our democracy on altruism alone," she says. "People need to be paid for their awesome work."

To that end, the book cites examples of salary reforms in several school districts. Younger teachers in particular seem more willing to be paid for the work they do in the classroom, as opposed to the current salary structure that is based on the number of years in the school system or the number of credits a teacher has earned beyond a degree.

The authors of Teachers Have It Easy all believe teachers are true heroes. Along with Calegari and Eggers, Moulthrop hopes that the book will raise awareness about just how difficult it is to be an overworked, underpaid teacher.

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Zack Pelta-Heller, a graduate student at The New School, taught school for two years in Manhattan. His mother taught in the Philadelphia public school system for over 35 years.

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It´s About Time
Posted by: ZPaul on Sep 15, 2005 6:17 AM   
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It´s about time somone spelled it out clearly and unequivocally for our society

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You think PA and NY are bad, come over to VA and other red states
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 15, 2005 7:41 AM   
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There's always a education budgest crisis in the state. Governor Mark Warner has done some tempering of it compared to Republican governors including Allen and Gilmore who made a complete mess of the state budget along with most Republicans controlling the legislature. Tim Kaine, while not perfect, isn't all that bad on the education issue either compared to Jerry KILgore and Potts, neither of whom have any plans on education except demonizing it as a waste of taxpayer money. The sad part is even when moderate Republicans would work with Mark Warner and most Democrats to try to fix the education budget in this state, terrorists like Dick Armey, Grover Norquist, Pat Robertson, and other rightwing jihadists would swoop in and make false accusations of over-taxation and calling public education immoral and push for ballot initiatives (easily rig-able of course) to make it look as if voters strongly oppose using taxpayers' money to keep public education affordable and well worth the quality.

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so many teachers leave the profession early on is to marry and start families.
Posted by: Olympiada on Sep 15, 2005 7:56 AM   
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Lord have mercy. Sorry my atheist friends, gotta pray on this one. God help.

I left junior college to marry and start a family. Big f**king mistake. Don't do it . I finally graduated from junior college with my AA in Child Development. I got to meet the cute mayor of SF, for the third time, on the stage. I knew he was heading for divorce. Thought about chasing him. Nah. ;)

At any rate, now I no longer want to work as an early childhood educator. And everyone is like "you should be a teacher". Well I took a class called Orientation to Education at CCSF and the textbook was Savage Inequalities by Jonathan Kozol.

But I don't need to textbook to tell me about the problems. I dropped out of GWHS. I attended that famous Urban Pioneers program that got shut down because two kids died out in the wilderness. I got pneumonia when it was our turn to go camping, so I missed that.

This article paints a bleak and dismal picture...I have also been told I "should" be a counselor...It is possible that is the direction I might head in...As a single mother I can not afford to be crying on the floor praying to God cleaning toilets. I do enough that as it is in my vocation as a single mother. I do not want to do that for a living.

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Teaching promises a low salary career
Posted by: lamar on Sep 15, 2005 8:08 AM   
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I left the teaching profession because I was dead broke all the time and there was no prospect of earning a middle class salary. I wasn't asking for much, but I also am not willing to live (or start a family) in near poverty. Bright young teachers leave the field all the time because they just can't make it as teachers. Most teachers who stay either (1) have an independent source of income, or (2) couldn't hack it in the private sector.

Imagine if you went to a career fair and the banner read: "Low pay, constant scrutiny, and underhanded politics" How fast would you run to sign up?

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Lack of respect for the teaching profession
Posted by: CrystalD on Sep 15, 2005 8:23 AM   
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A discussion on another board I frequent turned into speculation on lack of respect for the teaching profession. I'm going out on a long theoretical limb here, but I wonder if teachers are underpaid and disrespected because so many people "hated school" when they were kids? Kids hate school, think teachers are mean, etc. and grow into adults who run for office and slash education budgets, and think teachers teach because they can't do anything else.

Which brings me to another idea we discussed, that teaching is viewed as a "last resort" career for those who can't hack it in other fields. There was a time when teaching was viewed as a terrific career - indeed just about the ONLY career - for bright, educated young women who wanted to work. Now these bright young women go into law or business or graphic design or what have you, and teaching has gotten the reputation as an easy-peasy career choice for ditzes or dullards. Not that this IS true, but it's what is PERCEIVED.

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We trashing our future by not supporting our teachers
Posted by: LeisureGuy on Sep 15, 2005 8:30 AM   
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The long-term effects of under-supporting eduation will hit us hard in time--just as undersupporting levee maintenance and repair around New Orleans hit that city hard. And cleaning up New Orleans will cost MANY times what the timely maintenance of levees and wetlands would have cost. But when the chickens come home to roost for our lack of support for education, it will take a least a generation to fix it.

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Low pay? Two jobs to make ends meet? It's the same for other working folks too!
Posted by: zooeyhall on Sep 15, 2005 9:29 AM   
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First off, let me say that I am NOT an anti-tax bare bones government type of individual, I am an unabashed no-apologies liberal/progressive. I live in rural northeast Nebraska, and I have to say that here--at least--teachers are heads and shoulders above the rest of us with regards to wages, benefits, etc.

In my small town (pop. 450) high school, teachers are earning about $30,000/year. Maybe that doesn't sound like much, but the average person in my community is earning $18,000/ year. Plus--they have an outstanding health and pension package. I would guess that at least half the jobs in my area have minimal if any health coverage. As far as retirement plans, a recent economic development commission report in my area stated that only 24% of local employers have any sort of pension/401 k plan for their workers.

And boy, if the public school teachers have it good my area, you should see what the local community colleges pay! I am a pc tech with 10+ years experience. The best job I have been able to get pays $24,000/year. Recently, our local college advertised for a pc tech position and they were offering $40 k for this position! People in the IT industry around here that I talked to were stunned at the generous compensation. Additionally, the local community colleges (there are two in my local area) pay 100% of their employees health costs--try to find a private company that does that nowadays.

I am sure that the conditions here in Nebraska can't be much different that it is for teachers in most other similar states. I really wish we could all be making good money, have less hours, etc. And it is easy to run around yelling "TEACHERS ARE HAVING IT TOUGH!! TEACHERS NEED MORE PAY!!" To which the average working Joe would reply "So What, I'm having it tough too!"

I think the issue needs to be set against the larger one of the general decline in wages for ALL working people, and the general decline of the middle class. It is heartbreaking for me to see in my local area college educated people who can't get ANY job who would be glad to take on the job of a public school teacher.

Sorry folks, but at least where I live teachers--while having some of the negative things mentioned in the article--are doing very well in relation to others in my local work force.

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» Interesting comment. Posted by: Olympiada
Why Do Our Teachers Treat The Truth So Poorly?
Posted by: NoPCZone on Sep 15, 2005 9:32 AM   
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Johnny/Jane cannot read, write, spell, compute and know very little about history, geography, art, music or philosophy. They DO, however know about the made-up holiday of Kwanzaa.

"Kwanzaa From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Not to be confused with the Kwanza River in Angola, or the Angolan currency, "Kwanza".
Kwanzaa is a week-long, African American holiday observance held from December 26 to January 1. Timed to serve as an alternative to the growing commercialism of Christmas, it was founded in 1966 by Ron Everett, a.k.a. Ron Karenga, African-American activist, convicted felon, and director of the Black Studies department at the California State University, Long Beach. Kwanzaa is not a religious holiday, but a cultural one, a syncretic festival, based on various elements of the first harvest celebrations widely celebrated in Africa, around the 10th month of the year. According to a survey conducted by the National Retail Foundation in October 2004, 1.6% of consumers celebrate Kwanzaa."

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Orwell's "1984" Accurately Predicted Our Current Condition
Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 15, 2005 9:58 AM   
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Who do you think loses when the market makes brokers into winners? Our economic system is "Whatever the market will bear." Currently the market will bear the steady decline of American education when compared with other nations. It will bear the obvious evidence of an uninformed electorate being easily misled by clever word merchants. It will bear lock-step uniformity in a world where everything is put up for sale.

Individual freedom? It's not for sale. It must be earned by self-development. It takes a dull mind to allow public officials to create the chain-gang of rush hour freeway traffic. The same dull mind supports a war on terrorism, a war in Iraq, and a war on drugs -- none of which can be won. All of which can be found in Orwell's "1984," which dull minds cannot read.

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One honestly must ask...
Posted by: poonoggin on Sep 15, 2005 10:19 AM   
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...Is our children learning?

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Boo Freakin' Hoo
Posted by: saramarie on Sep 15, 2005 10:22 AM   
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I once had a teacher who always complained that she was poor. She was tenured and had been in the school teaching for probably about twenty years or more. Her clothes were always flashy and expensive looking, and she used to always show us pictures from the two cruises that she took every year. The time that she told me that my mother, a home daycare provider, must have it so easy making all that money to be a "home-maker", I almost threw a fit. How insulting.

Another teacher recently told the class that teaching was at least a little better than working 22 hours a week at McD's and making only $12K a year. If I had been drinking something then, I probably would have choked nearly to death and had to leave the classroom! I work about 40 hours a week for little over minimum wage every week and will probably not take home more than $10K this year.

I've been told by some wiser souls that the problem with many teachers is that they never left the education system and really, really went out into the real world, the one that the rest of us live in, so they have no perspective and exaggerate their "hardships" to the rest of us.

I'm going to be a teacher, eventually. High school History. I couldn't think of a profession I could get more out of. I'd rather be doing the world a service by helping out kids in a classroom than selling them crap that will make them overweight, and I can get full benefits, weekends, holidays, and summers off. Also, the minimum a teacher seems to make in NY is about $30K a year, three times what I currently make. I can stop worrying about whether I can pay increasingly expensive energy bills (trust me, utility cut-offs are the most nerve-racking, humiliating experiences you can go through!) and buy a decent car with an income like that (I currently take a bus everywhere)! Also, you know that teaching is a demanding job, so if you want to do it, maybe you should think twice before starting a family. I know I don't want one. Think about it this way: you know you wouldn't get a puppy if you had to be at work all day, so why have a kid? Is it really fair? Instead of making more little problem children, help out some of the ones already existing... in the classroom.

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Been there...
Posted by: akdave on Sep 15, 2005 10:28 AM   
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After working for 12 years as a field biologist, a job I loved, I went into teaching in order to make what I thought was an important contribution to my state and country. I felt the way to battle environmental problems was through an educated public. I could use my previous education and practical experience in the classroom.

I spent two years in school and went into debt to become certified to teach science and mathematics. I trained under a master teacher and really felt I had found my niche. I taught for three years working 10-12 hours a day, six days a week, and despite students who had no discipline at home and administrators who had private agendas, I loved my job. At the end of three years I was let go with no explanation. I spent the next five years trying to get another full time position but was repeatedly turned down due to my age, 40s, and my MS degree. I finally realized older teachers are less malleable and why pay for additional education when you can get a cheap, fresh teacher straight out of college.

I am now a statistician (went back to school again!) and teach part time at a local community college. I still love to teach but can not afford to do it full time.

Only a non-teacher would think its an easy job. The three months 'off' are necessary to recharge for the next school year, and, of course, take those required classes to maintain your certification!

Peace,

David
Kodiak

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I LOVE to teach
Posted by: Shakti on Sep 15, 2005 11:23 AM   
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I quit a prestigious research track faculty position at an Ivy League university to spend more time with my daughter and look for a full time teaching position.

Amazingly, given the terrible academic job market, I finally found a non-tenure track position. The pay is not great but I love teaching.

So, I have thought very deeply about this issue - why do I love teaching so much, why does it pay so poorly, why do people not value teaching as a profession?

I think the reason research is valued more than teaching is that research is more about intellect and teaching is more about emotions - head versus heart. To teach well, one must *care* about the students ... teaching is a form of service to humanity. It can even be a kind of healing in the sense that you are helping young people grow whole. Head-oriented occupations pay more than heart-oriented occupations. Look at medicine and nursing.

Teaching young children is very much like parenting, and we know how much our society values full-time parents. As a nation we scorn feminine, nurturing, caring, compassionate approaches and valorize masculine, disciplining, conquering, competitive approaches to just about everything (including governance). No wonder teaching pays so little.

Also, because children (and seniors) do not contribute to the GNP, they are discounted and the persons who care for them are not valued and therefore do not earn much, if they earn anything at all.

The sorry state of education in this country is a direct result, in my opinion, of underlying societal values that have diminished all things "yin" and aggrandized all things "yang."

It is, of course, short sighted, unwise, and unsustainable, as are all systems so unbalanced.

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Children = Problems
Posted by: cameron2610 on Sep 15, 2005 11:24 AM   
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...in an already tight situation.

I definitely sympathize with those whose real wages are decreasing in a country with growing economic inequality, but why do people feel sorry for themselves when their own children drive them into poverty? Having children is an option, and at around $10,000 each per year (as the author points out), you'd be better off filling your garage with luxury cars. What do you expect when you create something that you know will consume all your time and resources? And Earth is already overpopulated by humans, who make life worse for all other species. "But I just feel in my heart that it will work out somehow." "But I'm meant to have a family!" Get over it then. It's up to you to be strong and make smart decisions (in areas where you do have a choice) or you'll suffer. That's the world we live in.

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Ramblings
Posted by: hhartman on Sep 15, 2005 11:29 AM   
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Teaching is not unlike social services, my chosen profession, we are overburdened by trying to "fix" and take care of the problems of society. Teachers are overburdened with the duty of educating our children, but also to be the babysitter, the parent, as well as to play the politics game. What the Feds are doing to education is the same thing that has happened here in Oregon to our children. First it started off in the early nineties with two different laws that ensured lower property taxes at the expense of teaching, and then moved onto the creation of a benchmark based system to test our kids.

The NCLB Act did nothing to help children, it just created a system to where underpreforming schools lose money. Now, it may just be common sense, but I would think instead of taking funding away from schools that have no money and in fact leaving the schools unable to teach their chilren, you reinvest money into those schools so that they can have the tools to better educate kids. Yet, that would make sense to me.

I am starting to believe my friend who theorizes that it is part of the right wing, fundamentalist christian agenda to defund public schools because they do not teach "Christian Values". But I digress....

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Regardless of the speculation, the low $$ says it all...
Posted by: txjill on Sep 15, 2005 11:34 AM   
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I went into teaching because I loved school, loved many of my teachers and wanted to help people. Quickly, I realized that I am spending my own money (I didn't have much...I made $19,800 my first year in TX) to pay for supplies and to live. With long hours of planning, red tape (principal says put up cutesy crap in your room to impress the parents, but spend your own money) and latchkey kids who didn't have the support at home, I finally gave it up for the private sector.

That is too bad, but I make 6 figures now and life is easy compared to the hard work I did teaching and socializing the kids, working on things parents should teach at home. The other problem is that you have to follow so many guidelines to follow and "teach to the test" issues, which leaves out all the creative ways you can present information to a child and teach that child to love learning.

I am a Liberal, but I have to wonder if teaching was set up like a business and paid that way, would we not get some incredible teachers and plenty of resources at their disposal? What I cannot understand is why the bigger picture is not seen here. We could effectively wipe out some of this teen pregnancy, people being poor, abuse and probably crime if more was invested in education.

I have been on both sides and yes, there are lazy teachers, but if the standards aren't set higher and the pay higher, you are going to have lousy teachers. Do you think the person who cooked your fries really gives a crap how well those fries are cooked at Mickey Ds?

Like any profession...until you walk a mile in those shoes, you don't know what it is like.

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Been There, Couldn't make a living
Posted by: PalEBoy on Sep 15, 2005 11:40 AM   
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As part of the dot-com melt down, I ended up teaching math&cs at a nearby HS. It was fun and it was rewarding in every way except financially. As a mid-career person, I could not afford to get by on what was less than unemployment. I have a house, family, etc. If it wasn't for my wife working, I would have had to cover health care; and the employee contribution was 50%. Yes, fifty percent. Ouch.

I think that if you get into teaching young, when you have low expenses, you can rise thru the salary ranks and make a decent living. The problem, as I see it, is that to effectively teach math/science at the high school level, you have to had real-world experience. And that means mid-career switching; which the current union negotiated salary structures do not support. You're right at the bottom with a kid fresh out of school and no real-world experience. Who suffers for this? The very people being served; the kids.

I brought this up with my local congresscritter and the response was how he was suppportive of mentor initiatives to help keep new teachers in the profession. He couldn't get it thru his skull that It's the money, stupid!. Sigh. MA offered up 20k$ bonus for people to get into teaching (paid out over 4 years; 5k$/yr). This fast-tracked you to getting a license. But, you had to commit to teaching in an underperforming district. Frankly, putting a brand new teacher in underperforming districts is, IMO, a perfect recipie for quick burnout. Also, MA reneged on the last year of the payout. How would that make someone feel?

So, now I'm back in industry. One of my former students used me in her college application as an example of someone who openned her eyes to the possibilities of math. The essay had me in tears. I could still be making that difference; but for the lack of $$.

I think the undersupport of education is symptomatic of undersupport of any publicly funded activity. The funding mechanism doesn't scale. Another way of funding education (and public works in general) must be found.

I don't have any answers; but dammit I do see the symptoms of the problems every day. People who think intelligent design (I won't grace it with capital letters) is real is a symptom of poor education. People who let a government lie to them and yet eat it up and vote against their economic self-interest; who aren't capable of critical thought. That's another symptom.

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Rural Nebraska vs. Urban Orlando
Posted by: lamar on Sep 15, 2005 11:57 AM   
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And teachers are making the same in urban areas with much higher cost of living. Either way, $30,000 might attract people in rural Nebraska, but certainly not in areas where the vast majority of people live.

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» RE: ural Nebraska vs. Urban Orlando Posted by: monkeywrench
UNIONS ARE A SCAM!!!
Posted by: lamar on Sep 15, 2005 12:02 PM   
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What business do I have saying this on Alternet? If you've ever been involved with teaching, you probably know how bad and corrupt the unions are. Contract negotiations are a sad joke and teachers get the same raw deal every renewal. In New York City, the union fancies itself a local politician, and of course, fails in its ability to get more money for the teachers, yet it takes a chunk in dues. Somebody please give me a positive story about a teacher's union!

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Conspiracy?
Posted by: akdave on Sep 15, 2005 12:03 PM   
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I have several friends who have been teachers for decades and through their experiences I have seen how inadequate our public education is. For being an outstanding grade school teacher, one friend found her classes loaded with students with the most severe learning and behavior problems; this was her 'merit pay'. Another brought several hundred thousand dollars worth of grants into his school district and started an award winning environmental education program only to have the money and classes handed over to another teacher; this was his 'thanks'.

I guess while Norquist's buddies is starving the government so they can drown it in the bathtub they are making sure the voting public is too ignorant to figure out what is going on...

Peace,

David
Kodiak

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» RE: Conspiracy? Posted by: Basenjis
overarching agenda
Posted by: pickeju on Sep 15, 2005 12:06 PM   
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I'm suprised that people in general haven't caught on to the overarching theme of education in politics lately. There is so much being done to eliminate public schools it boggles the mind. Teachers are left out in the cold and "no child left behind" is poised to prove that the entire system is a failure. Well they're wrong. Public education is a beautiful thing, a gift we give ourselves as a country. If we're going to prevent schools from becoming entirely privatized, we need to step up and protect the system. Part of that is ensuring that people who teach are well-trained and content.

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we deserve more
Posted by: blogmommy on Sep 15, 2005 12:13 PM   
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Thank you, Mr. Pelta-Heller, for bringing attention to this important issue. Teachers are not only vastly underpaid for the amount of work that they do, but there is also a lack of respect associated with the profession (and as an early childhood teacher, I know this firsthand). There's always a thought that if you are smart and educated you wouldn't make the choice to be a teacher because you're never going to be financially successful. There's only one reason to be a teacher and that is love for the true essence of the job--helping children. Teachers cannot do it for the money, they must do it for the children. When our society starts valuing and respecting the work that teachers do, maybe they can then get a decent wage, enough supplies and the support they need to do the best job possible. The current situation is not only an affront to teachers everywhere, but also a disservice to the children of our country.

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bourgeoisie entitlement
Posted by: jmao on Sep 15, 2005 12:23 PM   
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i agree with the major premise of the book and some of the like-minded folk who have posted their comments.

but this is not new news. if you entered the teaching profession and expected to make money and be rewarded for your dedication, you have obviously chosen the wrong career. i'm tired of hearing people whine about how they don't make the 80,000 that they think they should earn as a teacher.
if you dont like the pay, then find a job that will allow you to live the lifestyle you want. i don t buy the argument that i had to quit teaching because i couldnt afford to make ends meet. i tend to hear that line mostly from idealistic, upper-middle class and abovers.

ive taught for fifteen years in juvenile corrections and in"at-risk" schools. I am currently living and working in a low-income area with a huge gang problem. i certainly do not teach for the money or the prestige, i do it, like Trick Daddy, says for the kids.

i'm glad that people will read these books and become aware
of the plight that teacher's experience. If you're unhappy, as you should be, organize and mobilize to get your agenda heard.

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» RE: bourgeoisie entitlement Posted by: bettsoff
why the low pay?
Posted by: giodi on Sep 15, 2005 2:52 PM   
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I had a sociology teacher in college that told us that the closer you worked with/for people the less money you made. Social workers, firemen, etc...make little money as well and think of the service they provide to our communities. He said the only exception to that was a doctor. This even explains why surgeons make more than other doctors. Or why corporate lawyers make more than criminal lawyers.

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» RE: why the low pay? Posted by: hhartman
i fled the country
Posted by: caracaskuhl on Sep 15, 2005 4:06 PM   
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I began my teaching career in Austria and then moved to my beloved Austin, TX. In Austin I had as many as 180 students a semester, and though I think I made a difference with many of them, trying to teach each and every one of them while making peanuts drove me to pursue my passion (teaching) somewhere where I could feel successful and get paid adequately. I live in Venezuela now, teaching at an international school. Often I feel it is my duty to return to the US and help forge a brighter future in my country, but a quick look at the frustration and humiliation under which so many teachers in the US suffer (esp. in Texas), and I feel I cannot do it. Why should I take on twice the student load for 1/2 the pay? I wish it were different. As it is, I choose to remain abroad.

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The issue is what teachers can live on?
Posted by: Maryanne on Sep 15, 2005 4:17 PM   
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IT is not a question whether teachers can live on their salaries. The question should be what salary they deserve in light of their responsibilities. Teachers, who have children with them perhaps as many hours as do parents (maybe in some cases even more) not only teach basics, but shape attitudes. Therefore we want not only the best, but we also must value what the best is able to offer. Our democracy depends on a well educated citizenry, and regrettably many who complete schooling are not only not literate, but also have little awareness of their responsibilities as citizens.

A teacher is not made; a teacher is born. (And so not every one who goes into this profession is a good teacher.) However, teachers need to be well prepared- have a solid liberal arts education, be thoroughly knowledgeable in the subjects to be taught, have the skills to teach. as well as ability to create a classroom atmosphere geared toward learning. Preparation is essential- and costly.

No one who has taken teaching seriously can say that it is an easy job. Long hours, uncooperative parents, children out of control, lack of support from administration and the community, etc. are all extremely stressful. Only those who love teaching and are committed will continue in the face of obstacles. All this should be taken into account in determining salary (not whether they can live on what they get!)

The whole public school system needs review. Emphasis on reading and writing in the primary grades. No social advancement for children who have not met achievement levels. Expectation of proper behavior in school. Less large, centralized schools in favor of smaller schools where children are individuals not part of the mass. More emphasis on school spirit, school activities, perhaps longer school days (our kids were home by 2:15). All this is costly. (And teens rushing to jobs solely for spending money and cars is really counterproductive to their development.)

If you want a good product, you have to have quality ingredients. And you either invest now- or pay a great deal later!

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I thought I wanted to be a teacher
Posted by: LPB on Sep 15, 2005 5:57 PM   
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I'm a freelance court reporter now. I get to use my punctuation skills and my typing skills. I get to meet a lot of people and I learn about a lot of different subjects when I depose expert witnesses. I also work seven days a week and often work very long days. Since I'm self-employed, I pay plenty of taxes, and I receive no benefits. I'm pointing these things out to show that I'm not afraid of hard work or, frankly, not a lot of pay once I've paid my expenses (office supplies, typists, etc.) When I was younger I was a just-above-minimum-wage child care worker, and, except for the low, low wages, and the lack of benefits, I loved it. A few years ago I decided to go back to college and get a teaching certificate. After three education courses, I decided this wasn't for me. One professor taught a formula for teaching classroom lessons and told us every lesson should be given in this format. Thinking of many creative lessons I've seen in the past, I asked if there were other lesson formats available. "Not if you want to be successful," I was told. I also learned of the State-mandated curriculum and the year of free in-class work I would be required to fulfill before earning my certificate. Since I already have a family, the idea of going into debt for a year's worth of living expenses and college tuition, books, etc., did not appeal to me. It didn't seem fair to ask my whole family to give up our standard of living so I could take low-paying part-time jobs to juggle with student teaching and the classes I would still need to complete. Teachers work hard to earn their certificates and, all too often, still haven't been taught things like effective classroom management when they begin teaching. Needless to say, I decided it wasn't worth the sacrifices my family and I would have to make. Also, the more I learned about how strictly the curriculum is mandated, the more often I thought, 'Where's the creativity in this?' While I often become irritated and frustrated with what I hear my children telling me their teachers have done (or not done), I have to agree that they give up a lot of personal time and freedom to do their jobs. A CEO who works as many hours and uses as many different skills as a teacher does would laugh if anyone asked him or her to work for a teacher's salary and benefit package. We allow these people to have such a strong influence on our children, yet we treat them so poorly.

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teachers will be poor, but born again christians
Posted by: menckenman on Sep 15, 2005 6:08 PM   
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The public school franchise will be privatized, chartered, and evangelical. No christian left behind. They're starting already with the "worst" kids, shunting them into these private holding tanks that control their own test data.

The "good" public schools will survive in their own rich enclaves.

No one says lawyers or doctors are born not made. Teachers should not be mothers. Most schools don't have public, peer reviewed instructional practices, which is why they get things like standards and nclb done to them. Read Richard Elmore, School Reform from the Inside Out.

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It is about working for the Public
Posted by: KPelley on Sep 15, 2005 9:08 PM   
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I am a Social Worker supervisor in California who works with the homeless. There are staff that work with me that are eligible for welfare they are so poorly paid. All of us who work for the public have been under fire since Proposition 13 passed in California. Before that my income was reasonable. I think that the right wing in this country has decided that we public employees, public school teachers, and welfare recipients are easy to pick on.

This public brainwashing by the right wing has continued since the defeat of Barry Goldwater. It was ramped up during the Reagan/bush administration and continues relentlessly today. My understanding is that the right wing wants to get rid of public schools and indoctrinate the young with their church schools to make "good little Christians" out of everyone--just like the communist party did in Russia. Poor teaching conditions sets up a situation where good teachers leave because of the pay and the students suffer. When the test scores fail, the kids can go to a private Christian school.

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» Deep comment and scary Posted by: Olympiada
"Teachers – What Are they Good For?"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 15, 2005 9:49 PM   
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I can't for the life of me understand why teachers should be paid what other professionals make. After all, they are only preparing an entire generation to be good and responsible citizens. What's the value in that?

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» Oh, none at all monkeywrench Posted by: Olympiada
What are policeman making, plus overtime?
Posted by: starchild on Sep 15, 2005 11:44 PM   
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I taught at a high school in S. Florida for 2 years. I was a single mom, living with a roomate to be able to afford rent, making just over $30,000 a year. The policeman on our campus, who hung out in golf carts, were not required to respond to discipline problems (that was the assistant principles job, or other teachers) except in extreme cases, got more money than we did PLUS OVERTIME. They had 6 months of training. I have a BA, that's 4 years in college. I spent 10 hours a day on campus, plus nights grading papers and doing lesson plans. NO OVERTIME. Talk about inequity. Time off in the summer? OK. Yeah, it was nice. But the discipline problems, including danger and threats from students, lack of respect from students and parents, lack of resources from the state did not make it worth the lousy pay. I could not buy a house or pay for braces for my child and eventually got so stressed out, I had to quit.

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brer
Posted by: brer on Sep 16, 2005 5:00 AM   
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I live in a district where long-time teachers retire at $90,000 plus.
As an older substitute teacher, I can tell you that when I leave school, HALF THE CARS HAVE ALREADY LEFT THE PARKING LOT! And I'm just a substitute---and I leave as soon as I can after straightening the room and leaving the teacher a note.

If you park near the high school, you'll see teachers who are "teaching to the contract" leaving the high school at precicely 2:10---that as long as they have to stay to fulfill their committment. My kids in their classes bring home papers they've sweat over that come back from the teachers with NO COMMENTS. One time my child embedded a whole section in the middle of his paper with French words, and the teacher didn't even notice.

And the biggest complaint we parents have is TENURE! We can't get rid of the lazy, bad teachers. We know there are good teachers. They should be paid even more, but we don't want to raise the pay across the board because of the inept teachers who languish year after year in the system, hurting kids, through indifference or overt actions.

I'm sick of teachers griping. What's WRONG with teachers having to take second jobs when they get off work at 2:10? Many (most?) folks don't get home from work until 6 pm.

Everyone knows that good teachers are never paid enough. I know there are a FEW teachers who stay late, or work on projects, homework, etc. at home. But they are few and far between. Maybe they should be paid more. But I don't want to up the pay of all teachers until they agree to find a way to get rid of the bad ones.

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education majors
Posted by: theywillknowusbyourabsurdity on Sep 16, 2005 5:33 AM   
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I teach sophomore-level English courses at a midwestern state university. A handful of education majors in my courses have been quite strong writers. The rest....yikes. It's not that they're incapable but that they themselves were poorly prepared in high school for college-level writing. The problem is cyclical, and I don't see it getting better any time soon, certainly not until education becomes a more competitive, better-paid field.

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It's not just teachers
Posted by: booktalker on Sep 16, 2005 6:33 AM   
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I support teachers wholeheartedly and will oppose the myths about them at the drop of an eraser. I know how hard they work and the demands of their jobs.

That being said--I'd like to put in a word for public librarians. (Yes, I'm one.) If you think teachers are paid poorly, try working in a public library. (School librarians are teachers and are paid on a teacher's scale.)

My job isn't sitting around reading books and saying "sh!" either. It's demanding; for brevity's sake, trust me on this! And still, when I start to feel sorry for myself, I remember that social workers are probably paid even less for a job that's even more stressful!

I don't begrudge teachers one penny of their salaries. I think that overall, jobs that deal with children or with the less advantaged members of society are undervalued and underpaid. Certainly the attitude toward teachers reflect this.

Consider this, though. My sister and I started in our respective careers 16 years ago, she as a public school teacher and I as a public librarian. It was only a couple of years ago that my salary exceeded her starting salary from 16 years ago.

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Adjunct/Part time faculty at community colleges ...
Posted by: PTcommcollege on Sep 16, 2005 6:36 AM   
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... often teach students who graduate from K-12 programs where they are not adequately prepared to write a 5 paragraph essay, without benefits or even a common office space to work on campus. Increasingly Community Colleges are "allowing" PT instructors to instruct 4 classes, just one shy of FT, but of course w/ no benefits. We're approaching the point where 60% of all community college instructors are PT. It's exploitation, with a romantic picture of a self-sacrificing instructor against all odds, that is simply a reflection of the death of the myth of Horatio Alger.

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just asking
Posted by: justasking on Sep 16, 2005 1:45 PM   
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I'm with you. Many of us are struggling out here. I'm a licensed social worker with a master's degree and my friends who are bachelor's level teachers are making about twice what I make. I guess that's what a strong union will do for you. Of course this subject also speaks volumes about what society values: my brother has a high school diploma and works in heating and air conditioning and makes well over twice what I earn.

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» Good point Posted by: Olympiada
Poor pay brings mediocrity
Posted by: tabebuia on Sep 16, 2005 3:43 PM   
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I have lived in Venezuela for 30 years. For those of us who have seen what education in the third world is like,--- low pay, when there is pay, class rooms with bare walls, no materials---- there is little wonder why there is so much turmoil in our society here. Ignorance reigns, people have not been taught to think because the education system is mediocre in all respects. I have seen that for the most part the faculty of education at the university here is filled with the mediocre students who could not get into other faculties that lead to higher paying jobs. Few CHOSE to enter teaching as a profession because you cannot live decently on a teachers salery here. The point is that if the USA ignores its teachers and does not pay them well, America will end up with a mediocre system also, and society will loose what it has taken 300 years to build up. Education of the masses is what makes the difference between American society and standard of living, and that of the third world countries. Educators ( not base ball players and movie stars), should be up there on the top of the pay scale so that you draw the best and the brightest people----- your kids and grandkids futures are at stake.

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» RE: Poor pay brings mediocrity Posted by: bornxeyed
So how are public schools financed?
Posted by: hagwind on Sep 16, 2005 6:26 PM   
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I'm surprised that this question was barely touched on in the article and all the responses to it. In most (all?) U.S. jurisdictions, public education is primarily funded by property taxes.

Problem #1: Areas where property values (and probably per capita incomes) are low generally have the least tax revenue to support public education, and these are often the areas where the need is greatest.

Problem #2: In other areas, like the one where I live, property values are being driven out of sight by gentrification, speculative development, and/or the second-home market. The result is that people who've been around a long time and don't have anywhere close to the income of the newcomers are struggling to pay their property taxes, which are based on the property's hypothetical resale value -- even if you have no interest in selling your home. So fighting to keep their homes translates into fighting property-tax increases, which translates into cutting, or at least level-funding, school budgets, among other things. It's a lose-lose situation.

The property tax is a regressive tax, and public education depends on it. No, I don't think for a minute that "privatizing" education is a worthy alternative: I think the market economy and the out-of-control me-me-me values it thrives on bear much of the responsibility for the mess the U.S. of A. is in. But we can't really address the issue of teacher compensation, or the quality of public education in general, without looking at where the money is coming from.

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Blogmommy
Posted by: blogmommy on Sep 17, 2005 4:46 AM   
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Dear Mr. Pelta-Heller, Thank you once again for your excellent article. Many years ago I taught in the NYC public school system and it was the hardest job I ever had. It proved too hard for me, mostly because of the politics, the way teachers were treated like children, and the myriad problems the kids were bringing in. I have been a psychotherapist for 30 years now and when people tell me what a hard job this must be I always reply, "You should try teaching!!!" I agree that the summer off is for recharging and it's too bad when a teacher needs a second job. BTW, is your mother S. Pelta who won Teacher of the Year in Philadelphia a while ago? Wow!

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Dropped out due to morning sickness
Posted by: Olympiada on Sep 17, 2005 9:18 AM   
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I just realized as I was posting this article to my blog, that I dropped out of junior college due to morning sickness. I was fully intending to graduate in Spring 2000 with my AA in CDEV so I could teach preschool, and it didn't work out. Then after spending 3 years at home with my daughter I lost all interest in teaching preschool.

So the impossible dream is indeed to have a family and be a teacher. This article was not around in 2000. Now that I have a child, I do not feel at all hopeful about becoming a teacher. I feel quite despondent indeed.

So I agree with all the commentators that if you want to be a teacher, do not be a parent. Choose.

Then again my daughter's kindergarten teacher has a 4 year old son. Then again she is still married.

There are no easy answers. That is the bottom line. But I know my daughter's teacher is often tired, and is 10+ years older than me.

This is a sorry state of affairs in America regarding public education. It has been. Why? It started out in segregration. The root is corrupt.

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former teacher
Posted by: AJ on Sep 19, 2005 8:35 AM   
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I hope that throughout the book more is made of how much teachers do work. So many people think that teachers go home at 3:30 everyday and have 3 months off in the summer. Most good teachers, and there are lots of them, bring work home at night, work with clubs or athletic teams, etc. The pay really is very poor when one considers that these are well educated people who care about kids and often work their tails off.

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Look at the facts on teacher salaries!!
Posted by: chrisrtait on Sep 21, 2005 12:39 AM   
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The average starting salary for beginning teachers in 2003 was $30,496. The highest state was Alaska at $38,597 and the lowest was Montana at $23,790. This is a poverty wage? I don't think so. Do you expect to make a million dollars your first year? You must start at the bottom. The average salary for these professions is great also. The US average in 2002-2003 was $45,771. The highest state average was California at $54,348 and the lowest state was South Dakota at $31,383. What a terrible life. Most states provide healthcare for teachers which is not accounted for in salary, not to mention the state pension that usually goes along with it. You will not get rich with this income but you will live a middle class life. What is middle class? Well, you have to take a percentage of the people on either side of the median income and that is the definition of middle class. Well, in these years that I show the stats for, the per capita income is around $29,000. Strangely that is LOWER than the average for a teacher. So you CANNOT say that teachers are paid lower than middle class wages. YOU CANNOT AND IF YOU DO YOU ARE LYING TO EVERYONE! These are lies that I see. I believe that teachers should be paid well, but I will not sit by and let you keep on telling falsehoods to everyone. You can check my facts if you want to. I got the salary reports for teachers from the American Federation of Teachers salary survey. I got the per capita income from the US statistical abstract put out by the Census bureau. I have the facts from reliable sources not hearsay.

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