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One Nation Under Wal-Mart

By Terrence McNally, AlterNet. Posted September 20, 2005.


In his irreverent new book, journalist John Dicker reveals the super-high social costs of Wal-Mart's super-low prices.
One Nation Under Wal-Mart
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If Wal-Mart were a nation, it would be one of the world's top 20 economies. There are now nearly 5,000 stores worldwide, over 3,500 in the U.S. A new Wal-Mart SuperCenter opens every 38 hours; with yearly sales of $288 billion, Wal-Mart employs one of every 115 workers in America. Wal-Mart has an enormous influence on all facets of business -- manufacturing, trade, communications, transportation, design, you name it. But as journalist John Dicker describes in his first book, The United States of Wal-Mart (Jeremy P. Tarcher), the backlash -- from citizens, workers, unions and governments -- has begun.

TERRY MCNALLY: You supplied the statistic -- if it were a country, Wal-Mart would rank as the 20th largest economy. Any idea what countries rank below it?

JOHN DICKER: It's bigger than Ireland, Sweden and Israel.

Fifty years ago Americans knew the phrase, "What's good for General Motors is good for the USA." Today GM's credit rating is in trouble, it's been offering its employee discount to everyone in hopes of generating sales, and Wal-Mart rules. What does this shift mean for all of us?

I think it means that corporations don't take the same sort of responsibility anymore. They can get away with a lot less. The idea that you pay your workers a living wage for a job that's also a career -- that seems to be on the decline. It obviously also signifies the switch from a manufacturing economy to a service economy. Rights that were fought for and won in union campaigns in the '20s and '30s in manufacturing have yet to be won in the service sector, retail in particular.

Wal-Mart claims it benefits millions by supplying more jobs than any other company and lower prices worldwide. What's wrong with this picture?

Well, on one level it's correct. I'm very critical of Wal-Mart's PR in this book, but one thing Wal-Mart's CEO gets right is that he continually reminds people that the heart and soul of Wal-Mart's customers live paycheck to paycheck. To serve them, Wal-Mart provides cheaper check cashing services and cheaper money wiring services. They really cater to that clientele, and that creates a very complex political dynamic.

How do you explain to a poor person that a $28 DVD player sucks? I wouldn't want to go to a checkout line and engage in that conversation. One of the things that we saw with Southern California's grocery strike: Wal-Mart is putting the pinch on. They're forcing their competitors down to their level of wages and benefits.

Retail has never been a source of incredible jobs. You've never been able to get rich working in a store as a clerk, but there used to be more of a middle ground. What you see in retail now is a certain bifurcation. On the high end, you have Whole Foods or Wild Oats, the kind of frou-frou markets where I have a piece of squash on layaway. On the lower end you have Wal-Mart.

You also have Aldi, a very interesting German hard discounter. They'll have about 800 items for sale, but you go in and there's only three people in the store working. If you want a shopping cart, you put in a dollar deposit. It's pretty ingenious. You get your dollar back when you return the shopping cart. It saves on labor, right? You don't have anyone doing parking lot reconnaissance, herding stray carts around. If you want a plastic bag, you pay for it, I think it's between 10 cents and a quarter. In exchange for these labor-saving techniques, you get significantly lower prices.

A&P did something like this recently on the East Coast. They shut down their deli and their bakery, and now you have to pay for your plastic bags, but prices went down 20 percent. Hard discounters, places like Costco or Wal-Mart, used to be novelties. Now really low prices are becoming entitlements. But they're not free. Super-low prices have social costs. This is a conversation that I think the country is slowly beginning to engage in.

How much does the Walton family make per year?

If you're a member of Sam Walton's lucky sperm club, that is if you are one of his four heirs or his wife, Helen, your annual dividend payout -- I believe Forbes reported this in November -- is about $176,000,000. That's your paycheck just for waking up Walton.


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Interviewer Terrence McNally hosts Free Forum on KPFK 90.7FM, Los Angeles (streaming at kpfk.org). For more information about the issues discussed in this interview, visit Wal-Martwatch.com and Sprawl-busters.com.

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The corporate tail wags our dog.
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Sep 20, 2005 4:10 AM   
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Walmart is doing exactly what a business is supposed to do. It makes money for its owners. The problem is that the law doesn't do what it is supposed to do. It is not protecting the common good. A serious mistake was to consider corporations to be "legal" persons with legal rights. A corporation should not have rights, but revocable priveleges. Broadcasting companies are reviewed periodically to assure that they are acting in the interest of the public. If they cannot prove their worth to the community their license is not renewed. All corporations should face a similar test. To make this happen we must first break the stranglehold that corporations have on the government. We have the corporate tail wagging the government dog with campaign contributions. Until campaigns are financed totally by the taxpayers and the funds controlled by the voters things will get worse. For a practicable plan click - join the revolution

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Ho hum, Lincoln fan
Posted by: bettsoff on Sep 20, 2005 5:29 AM   
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Does anyone else completely ignore the posters who blab something at the end of every article and then shill the same website over and over?

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Lincoln fan does at least get at the core problem
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 20, 2005 6:19 AM   
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Thing is, Walmart is only a symptom. Walmart need not have been this kind of a devil had the laws been created with both people and business in mind. I'm sure that if Sam Walton were alive today, while he would have supported some deregulation and free trade what with the store importing more stuff from China and is about to look to other Asian nations to import more stuff from if they haven't done so already, he would never have supported lobbying for private school vouchers and smashing affordable public education nor would he have endorsed lobbying for the Paris Hilton tax cut dubbed by the cons as estate/death tax relief. In addition, I'm not so sure he would have tolerated using immoral, unethical, and even illegal business practises such as price fixing, smashing labor, using illegals for cheap labor and low wages, and an all out war to smash all competing small mom-and-pop stores.

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And one more thing, Walmart isn't alone
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 20, 2005 6:35 AM   
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Even if Walmart were to perish, there would be other predators waiting in the wings to step in.

P.S.: Amazon.com is almost like Walmart. While getting stuff cheaper is fine, selling stuff isn't easy given that it's all about the race to the bottom. In addition, selling at too cheap to be true prices just like Walmart is not only common but cheating customers has only gone up and most rules on amazon.com are only there to protect the sellers more than the cheaters.

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America the Corrupt
Posted by: navistic50 on Sep 20, 2005 6:35 AM   
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This is a historical moment we live in, as the Roman empire fell, so does America. There are many who would dispute this statement, but they probably make their money off the "little people".

Rome fell because the people stopped believing in it's government, sound familiar? Not since the protest days of the 1960's have we experienced so much turmoil in this country.

As with Rome, America's fall from power will last for many years, but even now we are building up steam. Wal-Mart is an example of this corruption in action. Whether at the retail level, or the government level, the effects are the same.

Corruption breeds more greed, greed of course being the fuel of the American economy. I hold myself and all Americans accountable for this decline in our nation. We make corporations flourish or fail. We the people have the power to stop this continious rampant and ruthless abuse of our citizens.

I don't shop at Wal-Mart. I choose where to spend my money in this country, and I choose not to deal with thugs and corporate America (hard to tell them apart).

Wal-Mart is a symptom of a massive failure in this country to protect it's citizens. Wal-Mart is an example of corporate America out of control. While we complain about Bechtel, Halliburton and the other military-industrial complex entities, we took our eye off of Wal-Mart. Big Mistake.

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8.53/hour
Posted by: osisbs on Sep 20, 2005 6:41 AM   
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I worked as a union sacker in 1979 (that's 26 years ago) as a high school senior and made $8.53/hour. Gasoline was $0.55/gallon and a semester at the university was $300. The store did not go broke, food was not unaffordable. The profit margins are the same and the workers are not now even making $8.53. People who make minimum wage do not buy new cars, they do not fly United and they do not purchase clothing made in the United States. The rape of the low wage worker will be the undoing of this country.

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It's even simpler than that people.
Posted by: Dont you get it? on Sep 20, 2005 7:07 AM   
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As long as people persist in making buying choices based on price instead of value companies with questionable morals will thrive. I mean, get a clue. The mechanism is similar to an addiction to a substance. As long as some continue to put price above all else in their buying decisions, without taking personal responsibility for the consequences, we will all get to reap the rewards. The result is a culture and country which continues to decline in many of the same ways the author has pointed out. The perpetrators will laugh all the way to the bank. Remember, the duty of a company to its shareholders, above all else is to maximize the value of its stock. So think about it the next time you exchange your dollars for goods and services. It is up to you and you do have a choice; freedom or modern slavery.

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2 basic issues about Walmart
Posted by: rtdrury on Sep 20, 2005 8:10 AM   
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Wal-mart reflects a lack of empathy in the American mindset. When a person drives to Wal-mart and fails to think "oh, I might have been the small merchant losing another sale to Wal-Mart", it's a failure of this society and its mirror, the media, which implicates many who would never set foot in a Wal-Mart. Another thing is how obviously stupid is the idea that a corporation must be allowed to grow perpetually without limit. It's clear that the masses have been conditioned to let it go without a debate. The debate has to be suppressed like a debate over someone's alcoholism. If you know how to handle an alcoholic, you know how to handle the ideologues who promote Wal-Mart's capitalist excess. You look at the bright side of the thriving small merchant community - the sustainable ideal. Shop there. Count the positives. Then you can tell people all about it. It's better to go tell the Wal-Mart shoppers so you have to temporarily abandon paradise and go rub elbows with your fellow Americans. Compare prices while you're there.

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hoosker
Posted by: hoosker on Sep 20, 2005 8:17 AM   
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Not only are corporations "legal persons" they are required to exist for shareholder profit, i.e. the love of money. As you religious folks all know, the root of all evil is the love of money. Our current Amerikan destination is the upside down world of corpratocracy where all laws are designed to ensure that all "real persons" act in a manner to to best serve corporations.

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Whatever it takes
Posted by: bookwoman on Sep 20, 2005 9:30 AM   
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Still they were one of the few entities which was able to get supplies through to the Katrina survivors.

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Rural America and Walmart
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 20, 2005 9:45 AM   
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I'll also say that in states like Kansas, Indiana, rural Illinoise, the Dakotas, etc ... a lot of folks who buy in to the conservative backlash bait that the liberals are mocking their choice of living the small town life, and yet will travel 100 miles to SuperCenter Wal-Mart to get groceries, rather than support their local hometown independently owned market.

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Why I shop at WalMart
Posted by: bambic on Sep 20, 2005 9:53 AM   
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Yes, I live in Arkansas, about 15 minutes from The Clinton Library, or as locals call it, the Lieberry.
I shop there grudgingly because I am on disability, living below the poverty level and have no car, therefore, I am utterly dependent on my kind-hearted landlady, who owns the trailer-park where I live. She is 70-years-old, deaf and pretty well-off, but would not consider shopping anywhere else. And the kind of ice cream we both like is $2.20 cheaper than the local grocery store around the corner. When you've been on Social Security for over 20 years as I have been since my mid-twenties when I injured my back, I only recently discovered that I'd been eligible for food stamps all this time, and I'm trying to get the most for my money. I hate the fact that I shop at WalMart. But with the price of gas ($2.87 a gallon today), I have no choice---to ask her to drive to Kroger where I end up paying more for food than I can afford. I am a college-educated white woman, now a convicted felon since my house was raided by the police looking for a meth lab, and all they found was a marijuana pipe which got me three years probation, fines I can barely pay, and I lost my right to vote, which is hard to talk about considering that I was ass't. press secretary to Jerry Brown during his presidential campaign in '92. I lived in L.A. back then and wish to God I'd never moved to this "god-forsaken" state.
But for the next three years, they've got me. If I had the money, I could get my probation transferred back to California,
but who's going to hire a disabled felon?
Such is my life.

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"Third, World, Stink, Hole, Here We Come,––"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 20, 2005 10:02 AM   
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"––Right, Back, Where, We, Started from. . ."

Wake up, folks: if the idea that paying workers a living wage for a job that is also a career is on its way out, then we are heading full-bore toward a banana-republic economy. If you want to see what America will be like in a few years if we stay on this trend toward Kings and serfs, just go down to places like Sao Paulo Brazil, or Mexico City, or a thousand other degenerated urban areas in the Third World, and take a good look at the squalor. Want to live there, or even anywhere down wind from there? Didn't think so.

(And, how quickly poverty conditions can turn into lawless chaos was graphically shown to us in the Katrina aftermath – another glimpse of our future...)

Like the frog that boils to death in water heating so slowly it doesn't notice, America almost imperceptively is moving toward the same fate. But don't worry; by then you'll be able to buy that DVD player (that works for a week or so) for five bucks –– that way, you can be entertained by another Paris Hilton clone while you're in a hospital being treated for typhoid, or cholera, or West Nile, or––. That is, if you're one of the rich, lucky ones who can still afford a hospital stay.

"Brave New World"? No –– we're using our technology in the service of greed, to come full circle back to the "Bad OLD World."

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Good point, but missing the point...
Posted by: BenjamminH on Sep 20, 2005 10:50 AM   
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Many posters are making the point that they and others canot afford to shop anywhere but Wal-Mart and other bottom feeders. Great point but it misses the point...
Wal-Mart and the power brokers in govt and business have succeeded in breaking an ideal that made this country great- the ideal of community. Time was, we made sacrifices to support our neighbors and their livliehood. The corporate powers have succeeded in making us believe that we should be looking out for #1 instead of "we're all in this together."
Frontline did a piece on wal-MArt and one of the "experts" made a point that explain the aforementioned posters' attitudes: Henry Ford paid his workers decent wages so that they would buy his cars. Wal-Mart pays their workers crap so that they have no choice but to buy Wal-Mart's crap.

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Right On Lincoln fan
Posted by: mom'z the word on Sep 20, 2005 11:03 AM   
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You hit the nail on the head. The key to all this corporate nonsense is personage. Corporations are not persons. They don't vote, are not recognized in the constitution and have no legal standing as persons. They are by definition fictictious. Yet they have more rights more power than a real person.

Our courts, our laws, our congress, gave our heritage away by making an exception to the rule of law allowing, groups, organizations, political parties, agencies, the same origins as a real, living, breathing, person. Actually better than a real person, corporation live forever. When an exception is made to a rule it becomes the rule.

A fictitious person is a heartless, thoughtless, non entity. Yet it controls every faucet of our being. Corporate America provides us with food, clothing, energy, shelter, hospitals, doctors, medicine, and the very air we breathe and water we drink. This is not the tail wagging the dog it is a dog with a tail at both ends. And a dog with a tail at both ends is not really a dog any more. It is something else all together. It is an exception to the rule that now rules.

We created this monster. We can change it. All that needs to happen is for us to exercise the one saving grace that separates the real from the fictitious, our will. Our ability and right to make choices. Choices start at home in our own back yard. There is enough evidence to prove that we have made some very bad choices. We can change all that by thinking about the the mistakes we have made and doing something to change it. Thank you Lincoln fan for pointing out the bleeding obvious. Corporations are not persons. It is an important point that will make a difference in our thinking. Thinking is good for a change. momz the word.

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» RE: ight On Lincoln fan Posted by: mrsmagoo
Wal-Mart as symptom, not success?
Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 20, 2005 11:24 AM   
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Humans have been able to run away from problems so long as there were undeveloped resources to be exploited. Today there's talk of flying to Mars someday in order to mine the ore it has.

In recent years, however, the notion of 'sustainability' offers an alternative. It's not taken seriously enough (as can be seen in the defeat of Al Gore who was a spokesman for it) because for a majority of Americans there is never enough -- of anything consumable.

We are like animals feeding on their kill, the prime cut goes to the strongest. When animals overpopulate their food source, some are left to die or else the species becomes extinct. As the Club of Rome told us in the late '60s, the human population on this planet has outstripped our resources.

The big difference between us and the rest of the animal kingdom is that the weak ones among us can fight back. Humans will not sit quietly by and starve. It's only a matter of time before the suffering provokes social chaos for everyone. That's the message in the recent book "Collapse."

Can Wall-Mart be tamed? Sure. Will it be? Well, take a look at corporate farming. There's a good reason Wall-Mart emerged first in the Plains area. It's modeled on the replacement of the family farm by corporate farming.

Is corporate farming better than the family farm? Size gives it competitive advantages. (Just like the bigger animal who gets first fill.) And farmland can be converted to housing tracts. Yes, for how long? Is it sustainable?

Sustainable is better. Profitable is short-term, bottom-line thinking. My guess is that we shall need to wait until things get worse before we even begin to think about making them better. We are so far past the point of no return (how could Americans elect and support an administration that ignores science?) I have no good reason to think it will change.

We're even running out of hills we can to head to. Pity.

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» RE: Wal-Mart as symptom, not success? Posted by: mom'z the word
boycott Walmart til they pay their workers what they are due
Posted by: cobrajet on Sep 20, 2005 11:47 AM   
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So, the Waltons can go on being the richest people in America, they certainly can afford to modify their payroll policies, but since they will not, I am boycotting Wal-mart, and I suggest you do the same ! BOYCOTT WALMART,
I shop Target, or anywhere else. Shame on WAlmart for making its family rich, at the expense of the working class that spend thier entire working day there !!
This company will meet its demise, and it will fall, due to its greed and unfair labor rules.

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Sprawlmart and the banana republic
Posted by: lamar on Sep 20, 2005 12:41 PM   
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Somebody above said it perfectly: We are on our way to a banana republic economy. The gap between the rich and poor keeps growing wider while the middle class shrinks. Quality of education is linked to class, and the poor become less and less intelligent (and malleable). The poor destroy their own communities by shopping at a place that kills their neighbors' businesses, though they have few alternatives. Rich America shops at Whole Foods while poor America shops at a Sprawlmart. The economy seems to be heading in that direction.

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Xandra
Posted by: Xandra on Sep 20, 2005 12:46 PM   
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As corporations and profit have taken over the country, people have begun to complain that they are no longer being paid enough for their work, yet these are mostly the same people who would like to make 15% profit and up on their stocks, bonds, housing and other investments.
We can't have it both ways. Either we pay a living wage and the investors take smaller profits or workers get smaller and smaller wages with no benefits.
The problem is that to care about your fellow being and to put people and the world ahead of profits denotes a social idea and as soon as people hear the word social, they think of communist which is not the same idea. A social democratic nation is one that cares about the good of all and makes sure that all people are treated equally and fairly and that the resources, i.e. oil, gas, wilderness, forests etc are used for and on the peoples behalf and good. This is not a new concept but the true nature of humanity seems to come through and greed takes over. Greed for power (and money is power) spurs most people to take advantage of others.
The only way to stop this is to return to a simple life. If one does not have a DVD player, a car or closetful of clothes, who cares as long as that person is happy and helping his/her family and neighbors. Greed starts at home with the desire to "have it all" which big business tells us is everything they are selling. Concern for your family and neighbors costs very little if anything. By refusing to buy everything corporations thrust at us, we will begin to take back our personal power and the corporations will be forced back to where they belong... serving us, rather than the masters they have become.

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» RE: Xandra Posted by: Ely Whitney
Vote with your pocketbook
Posted by: Tubeguru on Sep 20, 2005 1:34 PM   
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Lincoln fan had it partly right. But the only way we'll get the Corporations out of government is not to patronize them. People should be made aware of the consequences of how they spend their money, a tall order in itself. Yeah, it may cost more to shop elsewhere in the short term, but the long term consequences are much worse. I took a trip to Louisiana last spring and driving through the small towns it was easy to tell which towns had Wal-Marts. They were the ones that had all the shops on Main St. baorded up..... I'm a musician and I volunteer to play at the local soup kitchen. I always see several poeple in the audience in their Wal-Mart smocks...
Wrote a song about it... Here: http://www.isound.com/music/king_cake/
if anyone's interested.

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Laws of Nature
Posted by: mf-roe on Sep 20, 2005 5:15 PM   
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Cycle of Democracy

The following was written by Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler shortly before our original 13 colonies gained their independence from Great Britain. He was speaking of the Athenian Republic some 2000 years before.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse (generous benefits) from the public treasury.

"From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:

"From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."

We are simply watching human nature at work. Get out in the real world and ask a random person about the state of our Democracy, most have no idea of the real issues, many will say they don't like to talk about politics. Many of those who are political are consumered by some idiot issue (Take your pick -- there are dozens). I am old enough to remember a better America, many are too young to understand what we have let be stolen from us. The sad thing is that we haven't experienced nearly enough pain to stimulate a rebirth of our Democracy, some have, but most have not realized that they are no better off that the people in the SuperDome vainly waiting for help.

Nothing will change until the majority of the voters in this country began to act in the interest of our Democracy not their own selfish interests --- does that send a chill down your spine?

Remember, Wal-Mart can never go to Heaven, it can never feel guilt. Wal-Mart is not human, so it can never be humane, it exists to make money and it will expand into any sphere of activity that supports that purpose. Our Democracy has the right to regulate Wal-Mart, if it does not, do not expect Wal-Mart to act against its nature.

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» RE: Laws of Nature Posted by: thehousedog
Rollback!!!!
Posted by: Philip Newton on Sep 20, 2005 10:05 PM   
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Be practical. Best advice yet.

Unions like SEIU are doing just that: They walked out of AFL/CIO because it was long on ideology and short on organizing new members.

And it will probably be SEIU that finally eats Wal Mart's lunch.

Don't whine, organize.

And don't shop Wal Mart.

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Noah
Posted by: Noah on Sep 21, 2005 12:40 PM   
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I beleave it is the incorporation not just walmart. can i send you an ideal.

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Noah
Posted by: Noah on Sep 21, 2005 12:50 PM   
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My Name is John McMahan; I am an old man and have a very limited education for I have lived in the woods for 25 years. I know my spelling is bad, so please try to understand what I am trying to say. For I have a very height IQ and I have learned to watch you.
People Power: A time when our president’s job is to educate the people and make sure they have a way to vote.
An Educated. Democracy: Is a new form of democracy, for in the past we no way of educating or taking a vote from the people.
Capitalism: If you look at all government, all are capitalist and make themselves an Inc. that will monopolize and capitalize on the people’s labors until they are slaves.
Be proud of the USA: for it was a well thought out plan. For when we started this country we wanted a true democracy [An Educated Democracy] where the people themselves make the decision. As you know this is not what happened? We had to make this country fast, for the British were coming and wonted the USA for there own and they had the power to do so. So we made this country with incorporation. Vote [electoral voting system] for we had no way to educate the people, or to take a vote. So our forefathers made our constitution in a way that the people could take the power from the incorporation when they could be educated to do so. This makes PEOPLE POWER [a true Democracy]

GODBLESS AMERICA: For this form of democracy is a way to make AMEN on Earth. For god can work throw 60% of the people all the time but not a man. [AMEN, WE THE PEOPLE]
Please help us make heaven on earth:

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Give credit where due, Walmart was there before the Government was!!!!
Posted by: Envi on Sep 21, 2005 4:18 PM   
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I understand all the issues AGAINST Walmart and have stopped shopping there myself, but I haven't seen even ONE PERSON commend them for opening in New Orleans and other affected areas, distributing cases of drinking water long before Bush's FEMA or the rest of the group went in. Our government couldn't get there...but Walmart did. For that, at least, they deserve credit. So, give credit where credit is due, it is due to them for responding so quickly when Americans were in need. For that, I pat them on the back and say "great job".

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One nation under Wal-Mart
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Oct 7, 2005 12:51 PM   
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To parodize that Parliament song-"One Nation Under A Groove", allow me to satirize it:
"One Nation Under Wal-Mart,
Gettin' down for low, low prices-
One Nation Under Wal-mart
Cheaper prices can't slow me down.
Here's my way to spend my way
Out of my conscriptions
(Credit don't fail me now)

We have enough Wal-Marts in the USA, and pretty soon they'll be so ubitiquous as dandelions on vacant street corner lots. This oversaturation is killing smaller stores and driving other grocer to trim payroll or slash prices.
And we have no one to blame but ourselves. Only thin missing is a Wal-Mart flag....

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Looking for information
Posted by: ciccio on Oct 7, 2005 3:33 PM   
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I keep searching out Wal-mart items because I am trying to follow up the case of Stacy Clay Driver who is alleged to
have been a shoplifter, he was beaten to death by Walmart
security guards Atacocity or something like that, near Houston
early August. The original report stated that they were awaiting a coronors report, since then the story has died.
Perhaps a few truck loads of water killed it.

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