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Eight Big Lies About Katrina

By Raphael Schweber-Koren and Jeremy Schulman, Media Matters for America. Posted September 9, 2005.


Big Media has given ample space for administration officials and conservatives to spread falsehoods about relief efforts.

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In the past week, Bush administration officials and conservative commentators have repeatedly used the national media to spread misinformation about the federal government's widely criticized response to the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina.

1. Bush: "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees"

On the Sept. 1 broadcast of ABC's Good Morning America, President Bush told host Diane Sawyer, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees" that protected New Orleans from flooding. As Media Matters for America has noted, Sawyer did not challenge Bush's claim, despite numerous, repeated warnings by government officials, experts and the media that a major hurricane could cause levee breaches resulting in catastrophic flooding. A September 2 New York Times front-page article  repeated Bush's false claim without challenge -- even though a Times editorial the same day declared, "Disaster planners were well aware that New Orleans could be flooded by the combined effects of a hurricane and broken levees."

A Sept. 5 CNN.com article reported that Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff falsely told reporters that "planners" did not predict a breach of the levees that would flood the city. As CNN.com reported, Chertoff said, "That 'perfect storm' of a combination of catastrophes exceeded the foresight of the planners, and maybe anybody's foresight." But unlike the Times, CNN.com noted that "officials have warned for years that a Category 4 [hurricane] could cause the levees to fail." The CNN.com article added that in an August 31 interview on CNN's Larry King Live, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) director Michael Brown said, "That Category 4 hurricane caused the same kind of damage that we anticipated. So we planned for it two years ago. Last year, we exercised it. And unfortunately this year, we're implementing it." But in the same Larry King Live interview, Brown responded to complaints that rescue efforts were not moving quickly enough by insisting, "And I must say this storm is much, much bigger than anyone expected."

Additionally, as journalist Joshua Micah Marshall noted on Talking Points Memo, National Hurricane Center director Max Mayfield "talked about the force of Katrina during a video conference call to President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas" on August 28 [St. Petersburg Times, 8/30/05]. The Washington Post quoted Mayfield on September 6: "They knew that this one was different. ... I don't think Mike Brown or anyone else in FEMA could have any reason to have any problem with our calls. ... They were told ... We said the levees could be topped."

2. Chertoff strained credulity in defense of Bush, claimed levee breaks and massive flooding came as a surprise -- more than 12 hours after local media reported them

On Sept. 4, Chertoff appeared on NBC's Meet the Press and attempted to explain Bush's discredited claim  that "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." After host Tim Russert asked Chertoff how the president could "be so wrong, be so misinformed," Chertoff suggested that Bush had been referring to newspaper reports the morning after the storm that New Orleans had "dodged a bullet" because the eye of the storm had passed to the east of the city. But more than 12 hours before the appearance of those headlines in print, a post on the weblog of the New Orleans Times-Picayune -- dated August 29, 2 p.m. CT -- reported, "City Hall confirmed a breach of the levee along the 17th Street Canal at Bellaire Drive, allowing water to spill into Lakeview." This initial report on the Times-Picayune weblog was followed throughout the afternoon and evening of August 29 by reports of other levee breaks and massive flooding.

While Chertoff said he recognized that the city's levee system failed sometime Monday night or Tuesday morning -- in fact, the first breaks occurred earlier, as noted above and as Think Progress noted in its detailed Hurricane Katrina timeline -- he insisted that "it was midday Tuesday that I became aware of the fact that there was no possibility of plugging the gap and that essentially the lake [Pontchartrain] was going to start to drain into the city." According to Chertoff, this "second catastrophe really caught everybody by surprise" and was a major reason for the delay in the government's emergency response.


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Jeremy Schulman and Raphael Schweber-Koren are members of the research department at Media Matters for America.

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dr. emerit.
Posted by: cohrt on Sep 9, 2005 3:41 AM   
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Do you still after this event insists on living in a fully working democracy guarding all principles of humanity.

Why not in the open annihilate all poor spenders, the disposessed, white trash and black trash and no racial animosity here

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Action Time
Posted by: navistic50 on Sep 9, 2005 4:22 AM   
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I have found a bit of a sense of relief in writing to senators, congress people and the news media in attempts to keep the pressure on these groups for accountability and responsible behaviors.

The political elite in this country are useless at this time. None are able to be truthful or for that matter, are even true patriots. They are failures as politicians and as human beings.

I for one will not back down to Bush and Co. They deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent for their many and varied crimes againt the people of the U.S. and the world.

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Bush Is An Inveterate Liar
Posted by: Commie_Ricko on Sep 9, 2005 5:04 AM   
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What can you expect from a liar and cheat and a murder! Assigned to assess the errors in rescuing the dispossed Bush is all set to white wash another terror and put the blame on white and black trash. Slowly but surely this felon is murdering our citizenry and no one has the gumption to stop him so we deserve all the hell he can dish out. Get ready for that suitcase nuclear terrorist attack next on his agenda so he can turn the whole country into a complete dictatorship!

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» or is it Invertebrate Posted by: ned
Levees bursting in New Orleans
Posted by: robchapman on Sep 9, 2005 5:15 AM   
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In the article on the gov't/media misstatements on the Katrina Katastrophe; point three; the correspondents review remarks by DHS Secretary Chertoff regarding press reports the President read stating New Orleans had dodged the bullet.
This interview is eerily reminescent of open mike reporting aired in WBET in NYC September 10, 2001.
In a rambling press conference, President Bush made numerous remarks concerning wanted posters for the perpetrators of the 9/11 attack.
When asked to explain what he meant, the President referred to wanted posters, like those posted" when we were children."
The President apparently was unable to distinguish between the toy wanted posters we played with in the fifities and sixties and the real thing.
Although the media cleaned this up and made Bush out to be a decisive and competent leader in the aftermath of 9/11, the truth is different.
Perhaps this time, with the emergency occurring in our own country and the possibility for people to analyze the events themselves, the media will not be able to shield Bush and we will finally get to see him as he is.

Robert Chapman
Lansing, New York

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The President Leads An Investigation
Posted by: Sandra on Sep 9, 2005 5:41 AM   
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And now we hear that our esteemed leader is to lead an investigation into this national tragedy, along with the Republican controlled Congress. Rove will keep spinning misinformation and the so called leaders of this country will whitewash the whole mess.

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Maybe I'm prescient
Posted by: bookwoman on Sep 9, 2005 6:53 AM   
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On Tuesday morning, I read the articles on the internet and heard reports of the flooding and stranded people on the radio. I accessed a Relief and Development Fund website which is run by my denomination and sent some money. I have the dated receipt from my email. If I could see there was going to be a tragedy, why did it take Bush, Chertoff and Brown so long to see the problem.

Also, I am a Republican, but it is making me really angry to see all these Republican apologists pointing fingers at the local Administrations to redirect attention away from the ham handed way this whole mess was and still is being undertaken. The stories just coming out of the debacle over the $2,000 debit cards are amazing. The public relations guy for FEMA is even denying any knowledge of the cards.

I am also thunderstruck about the Bush apologist comparisons between the delay in the lower Gulf region and overseas relief activities. Overseas is thousands of miles away in countries with very little infrastructure. New Orleans and the lower Mississippi region are here guys, less than a thousand miles away from our nation's capital, and, up to the point where the roads are underwater and inaccessible, the roads, airports and railroad tracks are in good shape. There was no excuse that flies, but I can tell you, the Bush Administration has finally created a situation of "shock and awe" amongst a people. Its too bad it their own people who are watching in wonder and dismay.

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krose
Posted by: krose on Sep 9, 2005 6:58 AM   
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Maybe finally, some of the more DECENT journalists are waking up from their "long winters' naps," and are beginning to realize the extent of the corruption and inadequacy of this MOB, and are feeling guilty about their own complicity in this mess. I would also guess that they are AFRAID! They realize that they and their own families could be trapped in the next disaster. As a result, they are slowly exposing this Administration for what it truly is, STUPID, RECKLESS, and MORALLY INFERIOR!

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Caution: Morons at Work
Posted by: Grouchoman on Sep 9, 2005 7:10 AM   
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If any of you think the suits in DC will even raise more than a hand to Bush and Co. , then you got another thing coming. Washington is total bullshit, even the Dems are pussies. We need new blood, some bastards who dont have to wear ties and armani to tell us how to live and breathe.

"When the levee breaks, have no place to go..."

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I lost hope
Posted by: sydmil on Sep 9, 2005 7:14 AM   
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The most frustrating thing is, that they will get away with it. Most people in this country don’t hear your arguments. And when the time comes to vote again, the few arguments that ever made it to the mainstream media will be forgotten or overshadowed by some well orchestrated sensational claims about the moral and religious depravity of the liberal proponents. It’s Jeb Bush for 2008 and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.

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Another Approach
Posted by: L. J. Allen on Sep 9, 2005 7:22 AM   
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Actually I'm going to forget about that feeling that pops up from time to time that says, "Bush and the federal government's response to this disaster is the result of insensitivity to the urban and Black poor." That feeling, that sentiment isn't really necessary. On Thursday 8 September 2005 I watched reports of how First Lady Laura Bush took aim at her husband's critics. She noted that the slowness of federal response had nothing to do with the fact that so many of the victims of this disaster in New Orleans were Black and members of the lower class.

Considering that the Bushes probably don't personally know any members of the Black urban poor, it is not likely that they hate them; it is more likely that they just don't really think about them too often, which in some respects is worse than hatred. Hatred is awful, but it is at least an identifiable feeling or experience for both the hater and the hated. Indifference is worse because it renders the suffering of people to an almost invisible status. But I digress...

So here's a thought. If the socio-economic class and/or race of New Orleans' hurricane victims did not play a factor in the slowness of federal response, then the only other reason for delay would have to be either incompetence in general and/or a lack of readiness for disaster. The information in this article is more than enough proof. No one really has to label Bush, Chertoff, or Brown classist or racist. You can just say--with confidence--that they're incompetent.

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...Do not attempt to Adjust your TV...
Posted by: asque on Sep 9, 2005 7:23 AM   
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This administration has stolen the opening from the Outer Limits and made it thier own. Of Course they do not watch TV or read the news-why bother when they know that it has been scripted to their specifications. It is only when reality diverges from the script and the "media experts" report a problem that action is taken, and even then, it is largely limited to coming up with the "correct spin'."

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Who knew
Posted by: Wandy on Sep 9, 2005 7:46 AM   
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Who know people would fly airplanes into buildings? Who knew the NO leeves could break? Right; anybody into spin? The NO leevies have been in blues songs synce before I was born. And I'm old. Wonder what his magisty was strumming on that guitar. Could it have been 'When da Leeve brake' (traditional).

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Frustrated in Canuckland
Posted by: Canadianbeaverlover on Sep 9, 2005 8:09 AM   
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I find it incredibly frustrasting to watch what is going on to our brothers and sisters down there south of the border. Not that we don't have our own morons up here, BushCo. is driving the whole world into the ground and there's fuck-all I can do about it, but bitch.
Because first of all I don't have a US vote. Secondly I feel that I could be told that it's none of my business, and Thirdly it takes and incredible amount of reading and research to know the facts, not the spin. You can't convince people who don't do their own homework. Crap my wife thinks that Bush is in Iraq because he invaded Kuwait! wtf? But this is so typical of people who do not have the time or inclination to question anything that shows up on Corporate Media.

Just my two cents worth.
Man, my heart goes out to the disaster survivors. I've shed more that a couple of tears for those people. I hope Canada is watching and learning the lessons as I am.

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what peeves me most...
Posted by: theonestonecutter on Sep 9, 2005 8:45 AM   
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about this is that i saw a picture someone had taken of the school buses in new orleans sunk to the windows in water in the parking lot, must have been hundreds of them. with three days warning and an ordered evacuation why were these buses not driven into town to the more depressed areas and loaded with people and driven out? A FLEET OF BUSES THAT ALREADY HAS A FLEET OF DRIVERS. what an absolute boondoggle. having survived a hurricane in turkey under bush 1 i can assure you they have no problems leaving humans to die.

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To Honor thousands who were killed, Every Citizen must demand Justice!
Posted by: kuma on Sep 9, 2005 8:46 AM   
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Bush and his feckless minions have committed multiple acts of Reckless Homicide, killing thousands in NOLA alone. The evidence is in, the evidence is massive and incontravertable! No amount of bush/rove lies and spin can hide all these crimes. First 9-11, then Iraq, and now NOLA; Bush and company have committed repeated acts of negligence and depraved disregard for human life, resulting in Mass Reckless Homicide. They must be charged, before their serial lies and depraved recklessness kill again.

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Who will rescue us?
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Sep 9, 2005 9:07 AM   
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Where does "the buck" stop? In our country "the buck" stops at each citizen's doorstep. We have to rescue ourselves. We the people seem to have forgotten that "eternal vigilance is the price of liberty". We did not heed the warning of (Republican) President Eisenhower to beware the "military-industrial" complex. Now our government is controlled by corporations. Both parties are bought with campaign contributions. Our votes only choose which candidates will carry out the agenda of the corporations. To regain control of the government should be our first priority. That will only come about if campaigns are totally funded with taxpayers' money. If every citizen will convince every politician that his vote is entirely dependant on the candidates support of campaign finance reform, both parties will include it in their platforms. Unlike other issues e.g. prayer in schools, pro-life, pro-choice, gun control, etc. that can divide us: campaign finance reform is an issue that can unite us.
http://www.lincolninitiative.org

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Time for a recall
Posted by: BuckFush on Sep 9, 2005 9:20 AM   
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The POTUS is the inept, arrogant, and above all DEAD wrong on everything. Impeach the phucker now!

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No words really,.....
Posted by: nakis on Sep 9, 2005 9:19 AM   
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There spinning more lies to cover their collective asses. Who is going to believe them? Only those who want to believe them despite the insurmountable evidence against them.
Who are they fooling? Not many. Just the foolish enough who want to be fooled. Not the overwhelming majority from around the world.

Two things really bother me.

One. Once again they are faced with self-evident facts. Even if the facts didn't dictate their criminality, the failure would demand accountability from those in charge. In the very least they failed. Shouldn't that mean they should be held accountable? Blame whomever but the buck is supposed to stop at the man in charge. Shouldn't they be at least fired for gross incompetence? Which means that even with this wagging the dog, they know they will get away with it. They know that even when the majority will know of their guilt, they will get away with it. Our government is owned. Not by the people.

Two. In five years of this presidency, the incredible and outrageous has happened. We've been attacked like never before by terrorists. Our economy is worse off than before they came to office. We've engaged in two wars. We're spending billions more on the military each succeeding year even though the cold war ended. Our infrastructure is decaying. The tax burden has been dramatically shifted to the poor from the rich. Each year we have more people in poverty and more people without health insurance. Wages are going down steadily. The wealth of the wealthiest 2% is dramatically increasing. We have engaged in a unprecedented pre-emptive war. The United States of America, unprovoked attacked another nation without just cause. The leaders who started the attack did it upon lies and were not held accountable. Our environmental laws are being gutted. Pollution has increased. The government is actively waging war on the middle and lower classes.
Then a catastrophy hits that clears away the lies and shows what they are doing. They are deregulating our industries and engaging in free trade policies. Corruption in at all time highs and is being rewarded. While whistleblowers are being punished. The media is owned and controlled by the wealthy.
I could go on but I'm nearing the limit.

Just how far does America have to fall? Just how far are these people willing to go? A lot farther I am afraid to say.

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Lessons Learned
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Sep 9, 2005 9:32 AM   
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This disaster shows us exactly what failure to plan can bring.
To say 'they had no idea of a levee break' is beyond contempt. I personally have watched several programs on this very same topic. All quite a time before this event took place. In some cases the shows were years ahead of the storm. To think as mayor of a large city that you don't have the authority to mobilize every form of public,city and private transportation to achieve a 'complete evacuation' for the good of the people,could be seen as being overwhelmed by
the magnitude,but, an evacuation should never degrade to
'Ya'll have to fend for yourselves". Every military base within 24 hrs. drive time should have been on alert, to move with
medicine,food,water and tents for shelter. When the storm passed Key West the Navy should've benn following the storm with rescue ships. Ol' 'Dub' sitting on his vacation ranch
should've made his ranch available,it has fresh water,a stocked fish pond and a lot of edible critters walking about. The fact that the poor were 'Hung out to Dry' proves the utter contempt that the leadership and a fat chunk of the wealthy
have for the poor and low income. Not withstanding the fact that the very structure of our economic society demands that
in order for the few to become fabulously wealthy, 40% must
be kept incredibly poor. I tell you all now,sure as the sun rises in the east, the poor and low-income districts will be bulldozed like most of the area,but, their housing won't be rebuilt,and what goes up will be too expensive for the poor to live there. The People are leading the Relief Effort, The People are getting the job done,and, when it's all finnished and over with The People will see that the government,with all it's trappings of wealth and honor are truly neither and always have been. Are therefore obsolete,ineffective,corrupt failures,as leaders and Humans.This alone proves that a pay-cut should be instore for them,removal from office with no retirement or 'warchest' monies in their pockets. We can do better without them. We've proved it to ourselves,and, they've proved it to us.

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"The Truth Sets Everybody Free"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 9, 2005 10:17 AM   
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When different media outlets report different versions of the same factual information by using spin-by-omission or by negligence and/or laziness, the public doesn't know what to believe. In response, the public will trust their greatest authority figure, which, in our previously-democratic system, has been the president – and the public is 'way behind the curve on the malfeasance and ineptitude that has infected that most-important office for the last four years.

If media outlets would do their jobs; if they would follow their own mandate, they would stop being unwitting (and in some cases half-witted) accomplices to administration lies, and would instead insist on following a nearly-outmoded standard that everyone can agree on: the truth.

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BUSH SHOULD BE IMPEACHED
Posted by: raidousa1 on Sep 9, 2005 10:45 AM   
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How many people have to suffer... or have to be killed... indirectly due to bush and his bush-league politics? PROFITS B-4 PEOPLE-TO THE MAX!

He should be impeached immediately and tried for crimes against humanity!

Due to his actions and inactions, thousands of people have died. Wait- maybe that only counts if the dead are wealthy white bush supporters- THE MAN IS A CRIMINAL AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH!

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"The Brainless Have A BIG Soapbox"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 9, 2005 10:49 AM   
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Boy, I just get all warm and comfy when I read of appallingly ignorant statements – like those from self-styled "experts" like useless, fat-bastard Gingrich and "Loofa Boy" O'Reilly – that get so much air time. The insane are not only running the asylum, they are advertising their lunacy to the rest of the world. From what I read in the foreign press, America is becoming the laughing-stock of Europe.

When is the public going to wake up and realize that 2/3 of the morons on political talk shows are nothing more than loudmouths with microphones, and that actually, they know very little about anything – except how to manipulate their pathetically unproductive careers.

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Overhead says what
Posted by: DAC on Sep 9, 2005 10:49 AM   
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Let’s face the sad and disturbing truth that the middle and lower classes will never be represented by the inner-beltway mob. Compassionate freedom-loving citizens need to wake-up and stop participating in the process. Stop paying federal income taxes to the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. Send the monies to your local schools and infrastructure directly. Stop purchasing products which undermine the local economy. The whole pyramid is supported by the working classes and they are the first to be squeezed. Our lives are filled with the overhead of corporate advertising, government spin, unrepresented taxation and Federal Reserve Bank created inflation. This undermines our relationship with each other. Fight the good fight and stop this fascist juggernaut.

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SHOCKED AND IN AWE!!!!!!
Posted by: Tonna on Sep 9, 2005 11:21 AM   
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We have been totally betrayed by this admministration. Our trust has been stolen. The lies continue and the spin, spins.
When I heard Mrs. Bushes comment- the "Let them eat cake" attitude, I was reminded of just how far removed from the real world this administration truly is.

I am outraged, fearful, angry, shocked and in awe of the lack of concern for AMERICAN CITIZENS. Those of us with eyes wide open see what can happen to any of us in any town here in OUR country.

They prosecuted Martha for lieing to the feds- Now we all know the feds have not only lied, but betrayed us all. But they will never be charged, they are the elite.

I watched Bush today making statements about 9/11 and his beloved war. He was very happy with himself. I thought, no weapons of mass distruction- no ties proven between Al Quida and Iraq, our dead soldiers, what an unbelievable betrayal.

Havent we learned anything from 9/11. Protect our nation, protect our citizenry. Be prepared. Utilize the mass amount of intelligence we have in this nation to respond to natural disasters just as we would a terroist attack.

With disgust I flipped the channel to see a split screen. The right screen: poor folks being evacuated at gun point, handcuffed, and lead off to who knows where. The left screen: a press conference was being held - officials stating that in New Orleans they were not using force to remove evacuees.
Thank you, CNN for showing the truth.

I am in utter shock- the things I feared true, are true. These are very serious times we live in... My prayer is that ALL AMERICANS pay attention, hold the correct people accountable and correct this horrible tragic mess we have allowed our country to become.

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This is the deplorable right's talking points
Posted by: denaud on Sep 9, 2005 11:49 AM   
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From: armchair@troi.cc.rochester.edu at Slate.com

"So those are two reasons we might want to rethink the policy of giving federal assistance to disaster victims. It encourages people to live in dangerous places, and it denies people the opportunity to accept higher risks in exchange for lower housing costs. Those abstract principles might be partly offset by any number of real world considerations. But if we want to build a better world, no truth should be ignored."

(Nice. Beautiful people.)

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Halliburton
Posted by: denaud on Sep 9, 2005 11:51 AM   
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If there were 10,000 Halliburton employees trapped in the Convention Center, you damn well better believe they would have been removed in 24 hours.

Follow link to the Cheney video from yesterday:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/08.html#a4856

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sherry
Posted by: se8332 on Sep 9, 2005 12:13 PM   
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I just do not understand what is wrong with us people here in this country. We have some very wealthy people. Actors, Musicians, etc... Why not just give. If we all donated money,our time, help we could solve the situation. It takes money to do media ads, funtions,concerts. Just give the money and save the people. Everyone makes it way more about media coverage than just giving directly to the problem. They should have taken every army,navy,airforce person,cops from everywhere to go get these people out.Quit doing so much talking, thinking and do action. That is what is wrong with us, it takes a big production to get anything done. So lives are lost. How sad.But nothing will change here in this country,its all politics.There is so much money out there and we are self absorbed greedy people. we need to start taking care of our own. And it sickens me to hear racial remarks in time of crisis. Does it ever stop being an opportunity to to use race as a crutch.People are people, everyone deserves life.every quit discussing and get out there and save the people.
Sherry

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Katrina Karma
Posted by: susjs on Sep 9, 2005 2:17 PM   
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I have some suggestions for consequences that Bush, his cabinet, family, congress, etc. should experience as a result of their handling of the Katrina survivors:

* Bush is sent to Abu Ghraib prison - without benefit of counsel or any outside contact - until either the war in Iraq is over and all of our soldiers are home or until the Gulf Coast region is rebuilt - whichever takes the longest.

* Bush's daughters become Army privates and go to Iraq for at least three tours of duty. They use different last names so no one knows who they are.

* Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Rice and Bush's father go to New Orleans to help with the pickup and identification of dead bodies and breaking the news to the families of the dead. No contact with outside world. They do this for at least a month and take it as next year's August vacation. Rice is not allowed to buy any shoes during this time.

* The rest of the Cabinet and the Senators and Representatives are divided in half. One half cleans up the Superdome and the other half cleans up the Convention Center. None of them are allowed any contact with the
outside world other than reporters. They are not given water or food during this time and each day they are promised that help is going to arrive the next day which, of course, it doesn't.

* All of the children of the Cabinet members, Senators and Representatives who are ages 18-35 drop whatever they are doing and go to Iraq to fight the war - three tours of duty.

* Laura and Barbara Bush go to Houston and stay in the Houston shelter passing out medicine and taking care of people suffering from E.coli infections. Laura can read to the children during her free time. Barbara Bush on display at the Houston Astrodome as a "person of privilege" who has a difficult time (chuckle) adapting to these circumstances.

Anybody want to add anything?

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Anybody Want To Add Anything ?
Posted by: kww355 on Sep 9, 2005 3:22 PM   
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Nothin' but a hearty AMEN !!!

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rebuilding New Orleans
Posted by: snarej on Sep 9, 2005 3:37 PM   
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By the time they've finished appropriating funds for reconstruction, Katrina is going to rival the War in Iraq in terms of cost! (incidentally, both disasters were preventable) Listen, I know this site is populated with old-style FDR welfale lib types, but y'all have just seen "big Govt" in action! like what you see? me neither, but I never put my faith in Govt. to begin with. How many people honestly think that things would have gone swell if only Kerry was in office? True, Bush Screwed up royally, and this failure shows him and his "vote for me and i'll protect you" administration for the frauds they really are, but I'm not all that hip to seeing additional hundreds of billions of dollars piled on top of the deficit to pay for this thing. So we can have KBR and Halliburton profiteering on the homefront also? Heres an Idea, Declare the Gulf Coast Area tax and regulation free for 20 years. no need for central planning or Jimmy carter--an I guarantee the influx of business, capital investment, trade and other various economic activity flowing into the area will have New orleans looking great again in no time. Then the liberals can start taxing and regulating again! :)

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misskitty29203's SPIN...
Posted by: Scott on Sep 9, 2005 4:06 PM   
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THE ONLY thing that any one needs to spin is "why" did THAT MAN remain on VACATION for a WHOLE WEEK before Katrina when HE should have been in D.C. declaring martial law, filling C130's, C141's, C17's with paratroopers with back pack supplies, radio; when trucks, planes, boats, buses, etc. were rolling the highways of America to be in place on the edge of the storm track-so they had to deal with 30-40-50 miles an hour wind; when Navy ships should have been plowing the Gulf waters behind Katrina's path; when the Red Cross, Fema, hospitals, doctors, nurses, governors should all have been pre-staging; when HE should have called Congress or certainly the Congressional leaders of these states to D.C. and all should have been planning like crazy for THEY ALL knew a week before that Katrina would hit where IT hit!!!!! I knew that watching the weather news here in SC, WHY DID not BUSH know that?? That is the only spin we need to know? WHY did HE do VACATION instead of his job? THEN WE need to IMPEACH the whole damm lot..............

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Balance your Blame
Posted by: jakealeah on Sep 9, 2005 6:45 PM   
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I am a liberal, but there is too much blame on the federal government from the confused..Blame the government...local, state, and federal.

Empower yourself, break free from the bonds of slavery caused by hating Bush, republicans, conservatives....or worse someone that thinks different than you. Liberalism is about tolerance and respect, not intolerance and anger.....

In this case all aspects of government failed to defend us, the people. This is a primary function of government.

If you are going to lay blame, lay it in against all who failed....not just the republican conservative...not just the president, not just the head of FEMA, not just Mayor Nagin...They all failed...

Guess what? you better learn to defend yourself, when tradegy happens to your town, the masses will be like rabid animals.

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Balance your Blame
Posted by: jakealeah on Sep 9, 2005 6:45 PM   
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I am a liberal, but there is too much blame on the federal government from the confused..Blame the government...local, state, and federal.

Empower yourself, break free from the bonds of slavery caused by hating Bush, republicans, conservatives....or worse someone that thinks different than you. Liberalism is about tolerance and respect, not intolerance and anger.....

In this case all aspects of government failed to defend us, the people. This is a primary function of government.

If you are going to lay blame, lay it in against all who failed....not just the republican conservative...not just the president, not just the head of FEMA, not just Mayor Nagin...They all fa