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Hugo's Helping Hand
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On August 28, before Katrina hit land, Chávez announced a plan to offer discounted heating oil to U.S. poor through the Citgo Petroleum Corp., a unit of Venezuela's state oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela.
"We want to help the poorest communities in the U.S.,'' Chávez said in his weekly television address. "There are people who die from the cold in winter in the U.S.''
Venezuela is the United States' fourth-largest oil supplier and the world's fifth-largest exporter. It sells some 1.5 million barrels a day of crude oil to Americans.
The same weekend, days after televangelist Pat Roberts said he should be assassinated, Chávez also announced he wanted to provide free eye examinations to U.S. residents with no health care. He made the offer to Reverend Jesse Jackson who was in Caracas to sooth tensions between the two countries.
Katrina hit and Chávez, who claims President Bush has plans to assassinate him and invade Venezuela, had a public relations softball.
He was the first foreign leader to offer aid workers, food and fuel. Citgo soon offered a $1 million donation and yesterday the company announced it would sell an additional 1 million barrels of oil to offset losses from the hurricane.
Thus the pickle: the Bush Administration, which accuses Chávez of using oil money to feed populist revolutions in America's "back door," is watching it come through the front in humanitarian envelopes.
But all of Chávez's generosity wasn't about disaster and suffering.
In Chicago, a city with a solid Latino voting block, Chávez's charity machine was at work. The Fiesta Boricua, a popular street festival that draws thousands of Latinos, took place only because a $100,000 donation from Citgo saved it at the last minute, the Chicago Tribune reported last week. "As Puerto Ricans in Chicago salute baseball great Roberto Clemente and other cultural icons at a festival this weekend," the paper said, "they also will pay homage to some unlikely new heroes: the Venezuelan ambassador to the U.S. and the chief executive of Citgo, a subsidiary of the Venezuelan state-owned oil company."
Some of the same new heroes will soon be on a six-city, U.S. public relations tour called "Venezuela Matters," which brings together businessmen, artists and academics together to show support for Chávez's social policies.
With his deft and unlikely blend of anti-American rhetoric and oil diplomacy, Chávez has won friends throughout Latin America, a continent increasingly distrustful of Washington, suspicious of neoliberal economics and strained by anti-globalist, indigenous forces.
But will the U.S. poor join the converted? The Chávez government hopes so.
"By showing that we are exporting solidarity and not bombs, we hope it will inspire people in the United States to say, Hey, that country and President Chávez are not what the media says they are. Because we've been helped," Martin Sanchez, the Venezuelan consul general in Chicago, told the Tribune.
Critics say Chávez, who is widely criticized within his own country as being a strong-arm oppressor, is capitalizing on tragedy. Even so, his gestures have forced even the staunchest critics, such as Congressman Connie Mack, R-Fla., to dull their sticks, at least temporarily. "Hugo Chávez is acting appropriately in a time of crisis," Mack told AlterNet through his spokesman. "It's good to see that he understands the severity of this disaster."
Michael Shifter, a vice president at the Inter-American Dialogue, a Washington-based think tank, said Chávez's gestures to the poor in the United States are "good theater and even better politics. He has been waging this battle in Latin America, in an effort to extend his political influence and build a counterweight to the United States, and now, in a display of great audacity, he is appealing directly to the considerable underclass in the United States."
Shifter said it is no accident that Chávez's gestures coincide with a dramatic slide in Bush's level of support, and "the shameful catastrophe in New Orleans." But he added there will likely be no shift in the Bush administration's hard-line stances. Even so, Chávez has found at least a few powerful allies.
"The truth of the matter is that the Bush Administration is unhappy that the people of Venezuela democratically elected a president who does not pledge full allegiance to American interests," said Congressman Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., in an August press statement. "Therefore they cannot resist attacking President Hugo Chávez every chance they get and blaming him for every development in the region that they dislike."
When Katrina's wake subsides, Chávez will likely find that Serrano isn't his only North American amigo.
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Posted by: nakis on Sep 7, 2005 4:50 AM
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That Bush (not just Bush but all his rich cronies) helps the rich at the expense of the poor. Expanding the gap between the rich and the poor. In 2004 Americans below poverty increased by 1.1 million and over 800,000 more Americans have no health insurance.
No one is saying Bush is all bad (though I am struggling to see the good) and that Chavez is all good (though most of what he does benefits everyone except the wealthy).
But when you look at the facts. When you see all the lies, deception, corruptness of the Bush administration you have to at least admit that maybe they're still lying when they talk about Chavez. Bush and his administration have given us lies and deception all throughout both terms. He was a lying, cheating, deserting child of wealth his whole life. Why on earth should his administration be believed for anything they say about Chavez. Especially since Chavez stands in their way of neo-colonialism. Chavez rejects the attempts by Bush, the WTO, IMF and World Bank at decimating their economy through free trade, privatization, removal of workers rights, reduction of wages and regulation that have decimated other nations.
You have a known liars who are telling you that the man they want out of the way of their global conquest is a bad man. Who does bad things.
Like neglecting his responsibilities for natural disasters causing so many deaths of the poor? Like engaging in pre-emptive war against another nation based upon lies? Like serving the wealthy over the interests of common man? Against the principles of the Constitution.
It's not rocket science. You don't even need a high school degree to figure this one out.
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After all, Chavez didn't even ask for Pat Robertson in return. The much repeated habit of Americans of responding to disasters in other countries is being repaid by offers of help from all around the world. Chavez is not the only leader, who has been berated by this Administration, but is offering aid. I had heard that even Iran has offered help through an intermediary.
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Posted by: Doubtom on Sep 7, 2005 5:18 AM
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Hugo Chavez's name will undergo demonizing much like the term liberal has but he will survive because he has the people behind him. Venezuela has a hero while we have raving idiots like Robertson, Bush and Cheney. Is it any wonder that the world despises us? Viva Chavez!
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Posted by: woodford54 on Sep 7, 2005 6:00 AM
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From all that I know so far, I am very pro-Chavez and it should go without saying, that since I possess a working mind, I am very anti-Bush, and proud of it. I hope to see some of you in DC on September 24th.
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Just because a country has a dictator does not mean that democracy cannot flourish. Also, just because we have a democracy (sort of) does not mean we cannot have a wanna-be dictator in the White House. I thouroughly enjoy seeing the egg on Robertson's and Dubya's faces.
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I find it ironic that (suposedly) one of the reasons that Bush felt vindicated to invade Iraq was because Sadam tried to kill his daddy. Now a conservative mouth is calling, rather casually it seemed, for the killing of Chavez. Instead of invading, Chavez offers aid. An invasion of kindness? What a unique idea!
Another facet which should be kept in mind is that Chavez is a very successful politician. Perhaps more successful than Bush. As such, he can expect many different effects of his actions. Helping (and offering to help) the poor and underserved in the US may be as much or more for Latin American consumption as it is for the target groups in the US. This politician for the underclass seems much more subtle than our wealthy versions.
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Posted by: Ely Whitney on Sep 7, 2005 8:52 AM
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Looking at the record of HC I can only admire what he does for his country and those countries that are in alignment with him. He is a tough as nails no nonsense leader and those that would critisize him are from the times previous when the govts of the day pandered to the wealthy. Those govts were as the US govt is today.... in our social club only the wealthy need to apply.. the rest of you go to hell or join the military and fight an illegal war...sorry had to toss that in.
The pain and suffering of the poor did not go un noticed by Chavez and he was a man who had had enough.... it was time to share the resource wealth that belongs to Venezuela with the people of Venezuela not to a collection of the wealthy. If that meant pissing off a few American oil companies and their spoiled executive leadership in the process so be it...
I am going to go out on a limb here and say this... I believe that the history books will look back on HC and weighing the good and the bad will view this man as one of our centuries humanitarians, and if he has to kick a few wealthy asses to carry out his mission to help the people of his country so be it.
Good on you Chavez...
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Posted by: bspencer on Sep 7, 2005 11:46 AM
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The offer of aid by Hugo, I beleive ,is sincere ,while at the same time he knows that such offers will be rejected so to some extent it is a political move on Chavez part. But why not Tit for Tat
The story in Venezuela is the same as in the United States; a rich minority desiring to maintain their positions of power/influence in those respective countries. In Venezuela the press is mainly controlled by GalaVision ,Univision,and many other Visiones all under the control of people like Gustavo Cisneros -owner of Univision who has always hobnobbed with the other rich elites of the world. Now we have a Press in this country now owned and controlled by these same types of persons.
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Pat Robertson's recent tirades have only helped to improve Chavez image in many quarters. Turning the other cheek ,so to speak. Frankly as an American and Christian I am saddened by this kind of thing on the part of the so called Christians in this country. After all Chavez is doing what Jesus called for-helping the poor.
Recently I had the opportunity to see the Film "The Revolution will not be Televised"--everone who wants to know the truth about the 2002 coup in Venezuela should see this film.
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This is a good article from a 'global' perspective, although I liked the mention of 'anti-global indigenous people'. Very interesting. Lots of conflict down there in Venezuela.
I pulled out my atlas and studied it's location...Never been there my self.
I like how the politician from NY said Bush did not like Chavez because he was democratically elected and Anti-American.
I am starting to dislike global politics. It seems like a big fight in the sand box to me. I think our world leaders need to grow up! I am dismayed at the lack of maturity in the people that are running our globe.
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by Juan Gonzales
Excerpts:
"Pat Robertson looks at Chavez and sees a devilish danger. He wants our government to 'take him out.' Over at the White House, Bush and his aides may use more restrained language, but their goals are not much different.
But there's a whole different view down in Latin America, where a half-dozen nations have seen liberal and populist governments swept into office in recent years.
Down there, Chavez has become the new miracle man of oil. Unlike Exxon/Mobil and the Big Oil fat cats, who wallow in their record profits while the rest of us pay, Chavez is spreading the wealth around.
A dangerous man, indeed."
Entire article: http://xrl.us/hhaa
ZNet's Venezuela Watch: http://xrl.us/hhab
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Posted by: nakis on Sep 8, 2005 6:33 AM
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I refuse to believe anything submitted by the current American administration. Almost all of it has been lies. I can't trust them.
I get information from lefty/liberal groups that praise Chavez. So I go with the information I get.
I never believed Chavez is a saint. The only stuff I do get is about Chavez helping the poor at the expense of the wealthy. How he is putting a dent in the free trade efforts of the criminally wealthy.
I do NOT want to NOT hear about the bad things Chavez does. By all means. The TRUTH is the most important tool we have. It may cause dismay and depression but I'd much rather know the truth.
Thank you.
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Posted by: Vitruvius on Sep 8, 2005 10:24 AM
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www.vheadline.com
www.vcrisis.com
www.aporrea.org
www.venezuelanalysis.com
oilwars.blogspot.com
daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com
www.venezuelaenvideos.com/
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Posted by: Canadianbeaverlover on Sep 11, 2005 5:58 PM
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I'm not so gullable to believe that a tyrant wouldn't use one or two left wing ideologies to prop up his/her image as they are murdering people in the background.
The good people of this world want so badly to believe that such a great humanitarian leader that Chavez supposedly is, does exist, that we end up getting sucked into the spin without doing the homework. I plan to do mine.
Thank you Vitruvius and tabebuia for bringing your perspectives, helping us all to form fact based opinions. If what you say is bull I will find out. If things are as bad as you both are saying they are, then I will find that out too, and you would have done a great service by me for pointing that out.
and by the way tabebuia, I liked your run-on paragraph. I often find run-on posts like that, come straight from the heart.
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Posted by: humansfirst on Sep 11, 2005 8:16 PM
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Huh? Huh? Huh? Michael Shifter?
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Posted by: chelydra on Sep 14, 2005 8:18 AM
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Aristide was taken out, allegedly in a joint US-France operation facilitated by Canada! I did notice that the war of rhetoric between the US and France miraculously cooled off right at that time. Aristide's crime? Employing thugs - or trying to raise the minumum wage a wee bit? Aristide in exile cuts a pathetic figure. Chavez in power does not. He has proven a tougher customer. While the poor of Haiti are back under the thumbs of death squads and multinational companies, poor Venezuelans still have a leader who champions their cause - even if his populism is not too far removed from Peron (or Huey Long, to use a stateside example). His methods may be ugly, but they work for him. No one wants 'our side' to behave like the US allies routinely have in Latin America (with wholesale violations of human rights and ugly police tactics, and who knows what else) but even if Chavez is responsible for many murders (as alleged above), he plays by rules the US itself wrote in the 1970s and 1980s.
Chavez's enemies in the US media are subtle and devious. An episode of CSI showed two playboy sons of the dictator of "Varacas" in Miami to help the US government set up covert torture chambers for terror suspects, and enjoying diplomatic immunity as they murdered sexy models they'd seduced and abused. By the end of the show, the US had seen the light and invaded "Varacas" and taken out the dictator, leaving the sons to face Florida justice. The parallels were not with Venezuela but Iraq! Apparently the mass audience was being programmed to get the two places mixed up so an invasion of Venezuela would be applauded.
As for Rev. Robertson, he obviously serves the administration by airing publicly the ideas they want aired, but can't legally propose themselves.
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Posted by: nakis on Sep 7, 2005 4:50 AM
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That Bush (not just Bush but all his rich cronies) helps the rich at the expense of the poor. Expanding the gap between the rich and the poor. In 2004 Americans below poverty increased by 1.1 million and over 800,000 more Americans have no health insurance.
No one is saying Bush is all bad (though I am struggling to see the good) and that Chavez is all good (though most of what he does benefits everyone except the wealthy).
But when you look at the facts. When you see all the lies, deception, corruptness of the Bush administration you have to at least admit that maybe they're still lying when they talk about Chavez. Bush and his administration have given us lies and deception all throughout both terms. He was a lying, cheating, deserting child of wealth his whole life. Why on earth should his administration be believed for anything they say about Chavez. Especially since Chavez stands in their way of neo-colonialism. Chavez rejects the attempts by Bush, the WTO, IMF and World Bank at decimating their economy through free trade, privatization, removal of workers rights, reduction of wages and regulation that have decimated other nations.
You have a known liars who are telling you that the man they want out of the way of their global conquest is a bad man. Who does bad things.
Like neglecting his responsibilities for natural disasters causing so many deaths of the poor? Like engaging in pre-emptive war against another nation based upon lies? Like serving the wealthy over the interests of common man? Against the principles of the Constitution.
It's not rocket science. You don't even need a high school degree to figure this one out.
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Posted by: Mary MacElveen on Sep 7, 2005 4:57 AM
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Posted by: bookwoman on Sep 7, 2005 5:11 AM
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After all, Chavez didn't even ask for Pat Robertson in return. The much repeated habit of Americans of responding to disasters in other countries is being repaid by offers of help from all around the world. Chavez is not the only leader, who has been berated by this Administration, but is offering aid. I had heard that even Iran has offered help through an intermediary.
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Posted by: Doubtom on Sep 7, 2005 5:18 AM
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Hugo Chavez's name will undergo demonizing much like the term liberal has but he will survive because he has the people behind him. Venezuela has a hero while we have raving idiots like Robertson, Bush and Cheney. Is it any wonder that the world despises us? Viva Chavez!
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Posted by: woodford54 on Sep 7, 2005 6:00 AM
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From all that I know so far, I am very pro-Chavez and it should go without saying, that since I possess a working mind, I am very anti-Bush, and proud of it. I hope to see some of you in DC on September 24th.
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Posted by: tooly52 on Sep 7, 2005 8:11 AM
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Just because a country has a dictator does not mean that democracy cannot flourish. Also, just because we have a democracy (sort of) does not mean we cannot have a wanna-be dictator in the White House. I thouroughly enjoy seeing the egg on Robertson's and Dubya's faces.
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I find it ironic that (suposedly) one of the reasons that Bush felt vindicated to invade Iraq was because Sadam tried to kill his daddy. Now a conservative mouth is calling, rather casually it seemed, for the killing of Chavez. Instead of invading, Chavez offers aid. An invasion of kindness? What a unique idea!
Another facet which should be kept in mind is that Chavez is a very successful politician. Perhaps more successful than Bush. As such, he can expect many different effects of his actions. Helping (and offering to help) the poor and underserved in the US may be as much or more for Latin American consumption as it is for the target groups in the US. This politician for the underclass seems much more subtle than our wealthy versions.
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Posted by: Ely Whitney on Sep 7, 2005 8:52 AM
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Looking at the record of HC I can only admire what he does for his country and those countries that are in alignment with him. He is a tough as nails no nonsense leader and those that would critisize him are from the times previous when the govts of the day pandered to the wealthy. Those govts were as the US govt is today.... in our social club only the wealthy need to apply.. the rest of you go to hell or join the military and fight an illegal war...sorry had to toss that in.
The pain and suffering of the poor did not go un noticed by Chavez and he was a man who had had enough.... it was time to share the resource wealth that belongs to Venezuela with the people of Venezuela not to a collection of the wealthy. If that meant pissing off a few American oil companies and their spoiled executive leadership in the process so be it...
I am going to go out on a limb here and say this... I believe that the history books will look back on HC and weighing the good and the bad will view this man as one of our centuries humanitarians, and if he has to kick a few wealthy asses to carry out his mission to help the people of his country so be it.
Good on you Chavez...
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Posted by: bspencer on Sep 7, 2005 11:46 AM
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The offer of aid by Hugo, I beleive ,is sincere ,while at the same time he knows that such offers will be rejected so to some extent it is a political move on Chavez part. But why not Tit for Tat
The story in Venezuela is the same as in the United States; a rich minority desiring to maintain their positions of power/influence in those respective countries. In Venezuela the press is mainly controlled by GalaVision ,Univision,and many other Visiones all under the control of people like Gustavo Cisneros -owner of Univision who has always hobnobbed with the other rich elites of the world. Now we have a Press in this country now owned and controlled by these same types of persons.
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Pat Robertson's recent tirades have only helped to improve Chavez image in many quarters. Turning the other cheek ,so to speak. Frankly as an American and Christian I am saddened by this kind of thing on the part of the so called Christians in this country. After all Chavez is doing what Jesus called for-helping the poor.
Recently I had the opportunity to see the Film "The Revolution will not be Televised"--everone who wants to know the truth about the 2002 coup in Venezuela should see this film.
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Posted by: Olympiada on Sep 7, 2005 5:31 PM
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This is a good article from a 'global' perspective, although I liked the mention of 'anti-global indigenous people'. Very interesting. Lots of conflict down there in Venezuela.
I pulled out my atlas and studied it's location...Never been there my self.
I like how the politician from NY said Bush did not like Chavez because he was democratically elected and Anti-American.
I am starting to dislike global politics. It seems like a big fight in the sand box to me. I think our world leaders need to grow up! I am dismayed at the lack of maturity in the people that are running our globe.
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by Juan Gonzales
Excerpts:
"Pat Robertson looks at Chavez and sees a devilish danger. He wants our government to 'take him out.' Over at the White House, Bush and his aides may use more restrained language, but their goals are not much different.
But there's a whole different view down in Latin America, where a half-dozen nations have seen liberal and populist governments swept into office in recent years.
Down there, Chavez has become the new miracle man of oil. Unlike Exxon/Mobil and the Big Oil fat cats, who wallow in their record profits while the rest of us pay, Chavez is spreading the wealth around.
A dangerous man, indeed."
Entire article: http://xrl.us/hhaa
ZNet's Venezuela Watch: http://xrl.us/hhab
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Posted by: nakis on Sep 8, 2005 6:33 AM
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I refuse to believe anything submitted by the current American administration. Almost all of it has been lies. I can't trust them.
I get information from lefty/liberal groups that praise Chavez. So I go with the information I get.
I never believed Chavez is a saint. The only stuff I do get is about Chavez helping the poor at the expense of the wealthy. How he is putting a dent in the free trade efforts of the criminally wealthy.
I do NOT want to NOT hear about the bad things Chavez does. By all means. The TRUTH is the most important tool we have. It may cause dismay and depression but I'd much rather know the truth.
Thank you.
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www.vheadline.com
www.vcrisis.com
www.aporrea.org
www.venezuelanalysis.com
oilwars.blogspot.com
daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com
www.venezuelaenvideos.com/
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Posted by: Canadianbeaverlover on Sep 11, 2005 5:58 PM
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I'm not so gullable to believe that a tyrant wouldn't use one or two left wing ideologies to prop up his/her image as they are murdering people in the background.
The good people of this world want so badly to believe that such a great humanitarian leader that Chavez supposedly is, does exist, that we end up getting sucked into the spin without doing the homework. I plan to do mine.
Thank you Vitruvius and tabebuia for bringing your perspectives, helping us all to form fact based opinions. If what you say is bull I will find out. If things are as bad as you both are saying they are, then I will find that out too, and you would have done a great service by me for pointing that out.
and by the way tabebuia, I liked your run-on paragraph. I often find run-on posts like that, come straight from the heart.
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Posted by: humansfirst on Sep 11, 2005 8:16 PM
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Huh? Huh? Huh? Michael Shifter?
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Posted by: chelydra on Sep 14, 2005 8:18 AM
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Aristide was taken out, allegedly in a joint US-France operation facilitated by Canada! I did notice that the war of rhetoric between the US and France miraculously cooled off right at that time. Aristide's crime? Employing thugs - or trying to raise the minumum wage a wee bit? Aristide in exile cuts a pathetic figure. Chavez in power does not. He has proven a tougher customer. While the poor of Haiti are back under the thumbs of death squads and multinational companies, poor Venezuelans still have a leader who champions their cause - even if his populism is not too far removed from Peron (or Huey Long, to use a stateside example). His methods may be ugly, but they work for him. No one wants 'our side' to behave like the US allies routinely have in Latin America (with wholesale violations of human rights and ugly police tactics, and who knows what else) but even if Chavez is responsible for many murders (as alleged above), he plays by rules the US itself wrote in the 1970s and 1980s.
Chavez's enemies in the US media are subtle and devious. An episode of CSI showed two playboy sons of the dictator of "Varacas" in Miami to help the US government set up covert torture chambers for terror suspects, and enjoying diplomatic immunity as they murdered sexy models they'd seduced and abused. By the end of the show, the US had seen the light and invaded "Varacas" and taken out the dictator, leaving the sons to face Florida justice. The parallels were not with Venezuela but Iraq! Apparently the mass audience was being programmed to get the two places mixed up so an invasion of Venezuela would be applauded.
As for Rev. Robertson, he obviously serves the administration by airing publicly the ideas they want aired, but can't legally propose themselves.
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