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Bush's Pat Robertson Problem
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First, he's got to distance himself from this nut, even though Robertson and his bowl of nuts are about the only allies Bush has got left. His latest approval rating is down to 36 percent, the lowest of his presidency, according to the American Research Group.
And second, Robertson's remarks handcuff Bush, making the overthrow of Chávez more difficult to execute. Even before the reverend said, "Thou Shall Kill," Chávez was warning that Bush wanted to off him. So Robertson lent credence to Chávez's claim and burnished Chávez's reputation in Venezuela and beyond as a Latin American David confronting the Goliath up north.
I've believed for a long time that getting rid of Chávez is a priority for Bush and Cheney. After all, they supported the coup attempt against him back in 2002.
Here are some of the underlying issues: Venezuela is a big supplier of oil to the United States, and Chávez has threatened to cut off supplies. He's also seeking back taxes from foreign oil companies, threatening to boot them out if they don't pay up. He is an outspoken critic of Bush and an admirer of Castro. And he has expressed sympathy with guerrillas in Colombia and with the nonviolent movement in Bolivia against globalization.
This year, Bush officials have steadily raised the volume of rhetoric against him.
Condoleezza Rice, in her confirmation hearings as Secretary of State, called him "a negative force." Echoing Henry Kissinger's infamous line about Allende in Chile ("I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist because of the irresponsibility of its own people)," Rice said that "leaders who do not govern democratically, even if they are democratically elected," need to be held accountable.
CIA Director Porter testified in March that Chávez was "very clearly causing mischief for us."
Rumsfeld denounced him for planning to buy 100,000 assault rifles from Russia.
One of Rumsfeld's aides recently called Chávez "a menace."
And Roger Pardo-Maurer, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Western Hemisphere affairs, accused him of "downright subversion" in Latin America.
In June, the Bush Administration proposed to the Organization of American States a new policy that would have enabled that group to intervene militarily to "promote democracy" in Latin America. But many governments in the OAS balked at this, seeing it as a transparent threat against sovereignty in general and Venezuela, in particular.
Just last week, Rumsfeld, who doesn't have enough to do fighting insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, took time out to go to Latin America to try to isolate Chávez. The New York Times headlined its story on this, "Rumsfeld's Tour of South America Is Directed at Stability," when it may have been more focused on the destabilization of Venezuela.
Given this context, Robertson seems to have just gotten a little ahead of the curve, daring to say in public what Cheney and Rumsfeld and Rice are probably muttering under their breath.
When your crazed friends start getting in the way of your crazed policy, it's a real shame.
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Posted by: Thundergod on Aug 30, 2005 12:34 AM
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A millionaire preacher who has no connections to any so called recongized regilion declares kill a major supplier of oil to the United States...
Another knife in the back of the bushes that support bush...
I remember 1999 and the cheap gas prices under clinton...
I used to not believe that everything bush touches turns sour but I have now decided that everything bush touches does turn sour...
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Posted by: james on Aug 30, 2005 3:36 AM
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Condoleeza Rice on Hugo Chavez.
Is she suggesting we should impeach Bush?
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Aug 30, 2005 3:53 AM
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We're a superpower huh? Why are we so afraid of a somewhat socialist president in a small south american country? OK, that was rhetorical in a sense. He's a needle in the side of corporate amerika and globalization(privatization).
I hope he can continue to help the underpriviledged in Venzuela. I think he's at least half decent. I wish we could get a leader that would show as much compassion for the underpriviledged in the US. Our "fearless" leader has no compassion and seems incredibly paranoid. I guess I'd be paranoid too if I was partly responsible for so many death and was so incapable of being honest with my constituents.
Oh and by the way, I am still surprised by bushes approval numbers. I can't believe they are so high. One in three people think this asshole is doing a good job? Shame, shame!
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Posted by: Wacre on Aug 30, 2005 3:55 AM
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And how dare he use Venezuela's oil riches to curry support for his policies and beliefs when everyone knows that if you want to get what you want in this unipolar world you invade first then lie about your reasons for doing so.
The problem with what Pat Robertson has said is indeed that he has tipped the United States' hand, and with all of our rhetoric about terrorism it makes it somewhat difficult to go and 'take him out' (I assume that Pat doesn't mean 'to lunch').
Btw, though our rhetoric goes so far because we only dislike terrorists that threaten us; our tune changes when it involves terrorists that threaten someone we consider an official enemy.
Interesting. The United States actually has to somewhat curb it's violent, militaristic tendencies for a moment (if only because our efforts are focused elsewhere for the moment) and actually negotiate with this man–if only for a little while; an area we clearly are weak in, despite all the billions we spend on weaponry.
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Posted by: rangerjim on Aug 30, 2005 4:30 AM
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Just look at the numerous acts of official misconduct while in office and one can see why George W. Bush belongs in Leavenworth. So for that matter should the rest of this pathetic administration. One thing else that Bush and Robertson have in common is that neither is playing with a full deck.
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However, the point has been missed that once again it is OIL and many American's gluttonous over-consumption of this non-renewable resource that drives this world view that America must further her empire, dominate and control piplines so as to feed our addiction's to SUV's and Hummers while we drive unpeturbed about global warming and ignoring the dis-ease of 21st century America: Affluenza.
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Posted by: lc on Aug 30, 2005 6:28 AM
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Bush wants to do the same with Venezuela, put the elite back in power and screw the people. Bush exhibits the same compassion towards the average Venezuelan as he does for the average American: NONE. Money and power are all that matters to Bush. Screw the people, here, there, and everywhere.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Aug 30, 2005 8:50 AM
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No matter what comes out of the rogue's gallery in the White House, treasure and profit are the motivating forces behind EVERYTHING this corrupt administration does. It is overdue for the American sheeple to understand that fact, and to stop listening to the blatherings of our idiot president and the cabal of dopes and thugs that back him up.
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Posted by: nakis on Aug 30, 2005 8:54 AM
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They've been gunning for Castro for decades.
Chavez, Aristide, Castro, et all, are all leaders of nations who worked against the neocon (New American Century) globalization/privatization takeovers of poor nations. Aristide was doing wonderful things for the poor. He had great plans to empower the poor to work for themselves but couldn't get a dime from the World Bank, IMF and no help from the WTO. So he worked on doing what he could. And for his trouble we sent in troops that removed him to Africa while the wealthy elite backed Haitians took over the nation. Regime change because they didn't play the crooked ball game that destitutes the poor and enriches the wealthy. Neocolonialization.
South American countries are fighting back. In the lead (was Aristide though Carribean) is Chavez. The danger he represents to the wealthy of America and Europe is that he is showing that it can be done another way. Government controlled resources channelling profits into the welfare of the people makes lives and standard better. Instead of the opposite privatization (neocon globalization) that puts the resources in the hands of the criminally wealthy who destitute the entire nation. Living standards suffer.
It doesn't take a genius to see that Chavez, though maybe he has other motives which doesn't seem the case, is making life better for millions of poor people and less nice for the thousands of wealthy in his nation. Not bad at all.
I guess it depends on your view. Like common people to live better: good. Like the wealthy to have it all: bad.
And Chavez seeking 100,000 rifles from Russia. What are we the most angry about? That he isn't buying our guns? That he sees a nation that spends more on the military than the next several biggest spenders altogether is opening hostile towards him so he's buying some guns? That arms sales in these numbers is really not that unusual considering how much arms we have sold to tyrants/dictatorships.
I don't expect wings to be popping out of Chavez's back anytime soon but I really don't expect to see any Bush/neocon horns popping out his head either.
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Posted by: Riverside on Aug 30, 2005 9:20 AM
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The news break (on Fox News, of course) will describe a treaty between the three where both Cuba and Venezuela will become new terrorist training centers for El Qaeda.
Rumsfeld will immediately call for the sending of tactical assault forces to both Venezuela and Cuba. However, at the moment, he can not find any forces to send anywhere. However, since the U.S. has lowered the enlistment age from 18 to 14, it won't be too long before there will be a force (?) to send. He and the President justify this lowered age limit on the basis of the new accelerated manhood program which includes youth service in the armed forces.
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Posted by: katyaa on Aug 30, 2005 9:25 AM
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show your disapproval for the man who thumbs his nose at his people. . .boycott all others
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Posted by: Skipper on Aug 30, 2005 10:39 AM
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The fact is, the vote audit was confirmed by both The Organization of American States and The Carter Center, overseen by Jimmy Carter personally, at the table.
Exit polls & vote matched exactly.
At 10 pm, every other country had congratulated Chavez; the US alone (Ari Fleischer) said the results were preliminary.
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The plan calls for the sale of heating oil and gasoline to hospitals, nursing homes, schools and organized poor communities in U.S. soil, according to Ramirez.
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Posted by: Markosis on Aug 30, 2005 6:14 PM
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Well, since our president's imperialistic crusade to bring democracy to the Middle East has worked out SO well, we might as well try to impose our will on the entire world while we're at it, huh?
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Posted by: rue on Aug 30, 2005 8:51 PM
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Bush: a nutball who is (unfortunately) still popular with a few people (the same who like Robertson), who also has the key to coffers of money and weapons, if not real intelligence (in both senses of the word).
Chavez: a nutball (have you heard him speak? he's a nutball), but at least he's taking care of his country.
Perhaps this is overly flippant. But, somehow, I feel that the whole world is in serious need of therapy....
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http://www.capitolhillblue.com
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(delete the paragraph break after ".com" , I had to chop it up to conform to the site parameters.
Uh, btw, Alternet...? Your not allowing "long words" is rather an obstacle to effective communication, dontcha think?!?)
Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White House Aides
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Aug 25, 2005, 06:19
While President George W. Bush travels around the country in a last-ditch effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides scramble frantically behind the scenes to hide the dark mood of an increasingly angry leader who unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who dares disagree with him.
“I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”
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The co-dependent addict's behavior is so clear in this article. I knew W's behavior was ringing a bell, but could not describe it nearly as well as this author.
And btw, where is Dick Cheney? AWOL?
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http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0920-13.htm
MaryAnn is right -- it is a well-written piece.
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Posted by: Matt Clarke RocklandME on Jul 22, 2006 12:43 PM
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1. falsely claimed to be a "Marine combat officer" when he ran for President
2. that he had his father the Senator from VA at the time get him sent to Japan to avoid combat in Korea. The assignment to Japan constituted action to avoid a troop movment, a court-marttial offense but it was committed as a favor by the later Commandant of the USMC General Shepard for his Wm and Mary College pal Senator Willis Robertson.
3. that Pat sued Pete Mc Closky Rep CA who told these facts to the NY Times; that Pat dropped ths suit when he quit running;
4. that during this fight with Mc Closkey the present VA Senator John Warner did a cover up letter for Pat Robertson assisting him to support his lie that he had been in combat.
The whole story including that letter, is in Pete MC Closkey's Memoir which he distributed to the entire class meeting in Re- union in 1999 of the Marine Officers who graduated in the First Special Basic Class of the Korean War, Quantico, October to December 1950.
Only Pat's orders and a few more were changed (to make the cover up seem routine) were sent to Japan, supposedly to re train vets of the Chosin Resevoir, a preposterous assignment for any of us 68 day wonders! Now Sen. John Warner is to be in charge of another Senate Investigation of atrocities in Iraq.
Such are the ways of our leaders when risk is to be shared.
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Posted by: Thundergod on Aug 30, 2005 12:34 AM
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A millionaire preacher who has no connections to any so called recongized regilion declares kill a major supplier of oil to the United States...
Another knife in the back of the bushes that support bush...
I remember 1999 and the cheap gas prices under clinton...
I used to not believe that everything bush touches turns sour but I have now decided that everything bush touches does turn sour...
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Posted by: james on Aug 30, 2005 3:36 AM
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Condoleeza Rice on Hugo Chavez.
Is she suggesting we should impeach Bush?
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Aug 30, 2005 3:53 AM
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We're a superpower huh? Why are we so afraid of a somewhat socialist president in a small south american country? OK, that was rhetorical in a sense. He's a needle in the side of corporate amerika and globalization(privatization).
I hope he can continue to help the underpriviledged in Venzuela. I think he's at least half decent. I wish we could get a leader that would show as much compassion for the underpriviledged in the US. Our "fearless" leader has no compassion and seems incredibly paranoid. I guess I'd be paranoid too if I was partly responsible for so many death and was so incapable of being honest with my constituents.
Oh and by the way, I am still surprised by bushes approval numbers. I can't believe they are so high. One in three people think this asshole is doing a good job? Shame, shame!
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Posted by: Wacre on Aug 30, 2005 3:55 AM
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And how dare he use Venezuela's oil riches to curry support for his policies and beliefs when everyone knows that if you want to get what you want in this unipolar world you invade first then lie about your reasons for doing so.
The problem with what Pat Robertson has said is indeed that he has tipped the United States' hand, and with all of our rhetoric about terrorism it makes it somewhat difficult to go and 'take him out' (I assume that Pat doesn't mean 'to lunch').
Btw, though our rhetoric goes so far because we only dislike terrorists that threaten us; our tune changes when it involves terrorists that threaten someone we consider an official enemy.
Interesting. The United States actually has to somewhat curb it's violent, militaristic tendencies for a moment (if only because our efforts are focused elsewhere for the moment) and actually negotiate with this man–if only for a little while; an area we clearly are weak in, despite all the billions we spend on weaponry.
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Just look at the numerous acts of official misconduct while in office and one can see why George W. Bush belongs in Leavenworth. So for that matter should the rest of this pathetic administration. One thing else that Bush and Robertson have in common is that neither is playing with a full deck.
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However, the point has been missed that once again it is OIL and many American's gluttonous over-consumption of this non-renewable resource that drives this world view that America must further her empire, dominate and control piplines so as to feed our addiction's to SUV's and Hummers while we drive unpeturbed about global warming and ignoring the dis-ease of 21st century America: Affluenza.
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Posted by: lc on Aug 30, 2005 6:28 AM
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Bush wants to do the same with Venezuela, put the elite back in power and screw the people. Bush exhibits the same compassion towards the average Venezuelan as he does for the average American: NONE. Money and power are all that matters to Bush. Screw the people, here, there, and everywhere.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Aug 30, 2005 8:50 AM
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No matter what comes out of the rogue's gallery in the White House, treasure and profit are the motivating forces behind EVERYTHING this corrupt administration does. It is overdue for the American sheeple to understand that fact, and to stop listening to the blatherings of our idiot president and the cabal of dopes and thugs that back him up.
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Posted by: nakis on Aug 30, 2005 8:54 AM
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They've been gunning for Castro for decades.
Chavez, Aristide, Castro, et all, are all leaders of nations who worked against the neocon (New American Century) globalization/privatization takeovers of poor nations. Aristide was doing wonderful things for the poor. He had great plans to empower the poor to work for themselves but couldn't get a dime from the World Bank, IMF and no help from the WTO. So he worked on doing what he could. And for his trouble we sent in troops that removed him to Africa while the wealthy elite backed Haitians took over the nation. Regime change because they didn't play the crooked ball game that destitutes the poor and enriches the wealthy. Neocolonialization.
South American countries are fighting back. In the lead (was Aristide though Carribean) is Chavez. The danger he represents to the wealthy of America and Europe is that he is showing that it can be done another way. Government controlled resources channelling profits into the welfare of the people makes lives and standard better. Instead of the opposite privatization (neocon globalization) that puts the resources in the hands of the criminally wealthy who destitute the entire nation. Living standards suffer.
It doesn't take a genius to see that Chavez, though maybe he has other motives which doesn't seem the case, is making life better for millions of poor people and less nice for the thousands of wealthy in his nation. Not bad at all.
I guess it depends on your view. Like common people to live better: good. Like the wealthy to have it all: bad.
And Chavez seeking 100,000 rifles from Russia. What are we the most angry about? That he isn't buying our guns? That he sees a nation that spends more on the military than the next several biggest spenders altogether is opening hostile towards him so he's buying some guns? That arms sales in these numbers is really not that unusual considering how much arms we have sold to tyrants/dictatorships.
I don't expect wings to be popping out of Chavez's back anytime soon but I really don't expect to see any Bush/neocon horns popping out his head either.
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Posted by: Riverside on Aug 30, 2005 9:20 AM
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The news break (on Fox News, of course) will describe a treaty between the three where both Cuba and Venezuela will become new terrorist training centers for El Qaeda.
Rumsfeld will immediately call for the sending of tactical assault forces to both Venezuela and Cuba. However, at the moment, he can not find any forces to send anywhere. However, since the U.S. has lowered the enlistment age from 18 to 14, it won't be too long before there will be a force (?) to send. He and the President justify this lowered age limit on the basis of the new accelerated manhood program which includes youth service in the armed forces.
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show your disapproval for the man who thumbs his nose at his people. . .boycott all others
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The fact is, the vote audit was confirmed by both The Organization of American States and The Carter Center, overseen by Jimmy Carter personally, at the table.
Exit polls & vote matched exactly.
At 10 pm, every other country had congratulated Chavez; the US alone (Ari Fleischer) said the results were preliminary.
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The plan calls for the sale of heating oil and gasoline to hospitals, nursing homes, schools and organized poor communities in U.S. soil, according to Ramirez.
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Well, since our president's imperialistic crusade to bring democracy to the Middle East has worked out SO well, we might as well try to impose our will on the entire world while we're at it, huh?
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Posted by: rue on Aug 30, 2005 8:51 PM
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Bush: a nutball who is (unfortunately) still popular with a few people (the same who like Robertson), who also has the key to coffers of money and weapons, if not real intelligence (in both senses of the word).
Chavez: a nutball (have you heard him speak? he's a nutball), but at least he's taking care of his country.
Perhaps this is overly flippant. But, somehow, I feel that the whole world is in serious need of therapy....
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http://www.capitolhillblue.com
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(delete the paragraph break after ".com" , I had to chop it up to conform to the site parameters.
Uh, btw, Alternet...? Your not allowing "long words" is rather an obstacle to effective communication, dontcha think?!?)
Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
Aug 25, 2005, 06:19
While President George W. Bush travels around the country in a last-ditch effort to sell his Iraq war, White House aides scramble frantically behind the scenes to hide the dark mood of an increasingly angry leader who unleashes obscenity-filled outbursts at anyone who dares disagree with him.
“I’m not meeting again with that goddamned bitch,” Bush screamed at aides who suggested he meet again with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother whose son died in Iraq. “She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!”
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The co-dependent addict's behavior is so clear in this article. I knew W's behavior was ringing a bell, but could not describe it nearly as well as this author.
And btw, where is Dick Cheney? AWOL?
BJ in Salzburg
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http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0920-13.htm
MaryAnn is right -- it is a well-written piece.
BJ in Salzburg
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1. falsely claimed to be a "Marine combat officer" when he ran for President
2. that he had his father the Senator from VA at the time get him sent to Japan to avoid combat in Korea. The assignment to Japan constituted action to avoid a troop movment, a court-marttial offense but it was committed as a favor by the later Commandant of the USMC General Shepard for his Wm and Mary College pal Senator Willis Robertson.
3. that Pat sued Pete Mc Closky Rep CA who told these facts to the NY Times; that Pat dropped ths suit when he quit running;
4. that during this fight with Mc Closkey the present VA Senator John Warner did a cover up letter for Pat Robertson assisting him to support his lie that he had been in combat.
The whole story including that letter, is in Pete MC Closkey's Memoir which he distributed to the entire class meeting in Re- union in 1999 of the Marine Officers who graduated in the First Special Basic Class of the Korean War, Quantico, October to December 1950.
Only Pat's orders and a few more were changed (to make the cover up seem routine) were sent to Japan, supposedly to re train vets of the Chosin Resevoir, a preposterous assignment for any of us 68 day wonders! Now Sen. John Warner is to be in charge of another Senate Investigation of atrocities in Iraq.
Such are the ways of our leaders when risk is to be shared.
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