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Never Enough

By Laura Barcella, AlterNet. Posted August 26, 2005.


In his book American Mania, a psychiatrist urges us to stop our endless quest of accumulation -- unless we want to witness a mass psychological and economic meltdown.
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In American Mania: When More is Not Enough, renowned psychiatrist Dr. Peter C. Whybrow skillfully and sensitively critiques the mess America has made of its consumer culture.

What have we become? According to Whybrow’s scientific and philosophical analyses, we’ve devolved into a nation of overindulging, overstimulated flakes addicted to easy access and instant gratification.

Dr. Whybrow argues that our seemingly interminable quest for more -- more money, more power, more toys, more cars -- has in fact become a form of clinical mania marked by symptoms such as anxiety, depression and obesity.

To avoid suffering a collective mental breakdown, Whybrow implores us to stop focusing on things and instead turn our attention to people -- family, friends and community. It's a familiar refrain, but one that clearly needs repeating: If we are to be happy, Americans must stop superficially striving, and learn to prioritize people over products.

Dr. Whybrow spoke with AlterNet from his office in Los Angeles.

AlterNet: In your book, you write that America's "migrant spirit" plays a key role in the development of our culture's mania. Can you explain that idea for those who haven't read the book?

b>The idea of American mania is that we are drawn into frenzied activity largely by instinctual strivings. This is very natural, and keeps us alive. But the migrant has this striving to an even greater degree than the average person -- if you think about what it is that drives most of us, it's curiosity, it's self-preservation, and also social ambition. These are the three fundamental aspects of what drives individuals and what drives all market societies.

In America, one of the reasons we find the market so compelling and why we're so good at it is that most of us came from somewhere else. Only 2 percent of the world's population actually moves hundreds or thousands of miles away from where they were born; most people die within 50 miles of where they were born, believe it or not.

We're a collection of survivalists; we're a collection of people who are very curious, very assertive, able to figure out what to do with little, to make the best of things, and so on and so forth.

We've built ourselves this wonderful culture -- this wonderful material pleasure palace -- and we're not quite sure how to stop. We've discovered an aberration of the human spirit a little earlier than most other countries -- but everybody's catching up, slowly.

What do you think is the scariest symptom of America's collective frenzy for more, more, more?

I think the scariest part is that we have not started to question it as a nation. Lots of individuals have started to question it, and that's partly why the book has become so popular. But we have to think through what it is that we're doing to ourselves.

Take food, for example -- instinctually we love to eat ... salt; we love fat. And much of the food that we have available to us contains those things; we just overeat and do very bad things to ourselves.

The same is true in terms of our curiosity for information. We can inundate ourselves 24 hours a day now with electronic systems, and all of these things tend to actually push us to the edge of our sociological tolerance.

People are not supposed to eat all day and take no exercise. It's very bad for the human body, and you eventually end up developing Type II diabetes. And if you don't know how to control your time and the technology in your life, you can rapidly become anxious because you worry that you're missing something.

The other thing which is very evident, though some people don't even see it as a behavioral problem, and which you read about everyday in the newspapers, is that people become essentially seduced into engaging in practices which are not good for them.

I just got an email the other day from a person that'd been caught up in the whole dot-com craziness, and [he had] done some "creative accounting" in one of the companies. He realized later -- when he was caught, and with terrible remorse -- that he'd destroyed his life.

But the idea that one needs more -- which is driven in part by social ambition -- makes many people forget the reality of the world, which is, of course, that happiness doesn't come from just material acquisition, whether that means more food, or more information, or more money. It comes from a totally different source: the way in which you spend your life with other people.

What would be the worst possible outcome if Americans continued down the path we're on right now?

Well, on the individual level, which is the way the book is pitched, we will find a rising level of these sorts of disorders that I was just talking about. But I think the greed that we see will become much more individualistic, and much less socially involved. That will begin to slowly destroy the next generation of people, because the way we learn how to live in a society is from others. And if everybody is totally individualistic, we're not going to learn.

But perhaps even more importantly, [we] will find that the economy will begin to collapse, because the signs are already out there. We are consuming too much; we're going well beyond our ability to finance it. We're the biggest debtor in the world now, and a lot of the world economy is based on American consumerism.


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Interesting article
Posted by: WhatNow? on Aug 26, 2005 2:47 AM   
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I'd love to comment on this article but it would be a long reply and I do not have the time at the moment.

Take care everybody.

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David Model
Posted by: david.model@senecac.on.ca on Aug 26, 2005 3:53 AM   
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I completely agree with Laura Barcella. Her hypothesis can be extrapolted to a global level. A necessity in a consumeristic society is access to inputs such as oil, aluminum, cobalt etc. These inputs are frequently located in other countries. The need to maintain growth in the consumer society creates an imperative to plunder that wealth of natural resources wherever it may be. This leads to war crimes because rarely do other nations eaily part with their wealth. Examples of these war crimes are documented in my recently published book "Lies for Empire: How to Commit War Crimes with a Straight Face". Greed, power, control and preserving the American economic system were the motivating factors often under the pretext of fighting an enemy such a terrorism. How many people have died so that we can drive our gas-guzzling cars and eat like kings (excluding the 40 million or so Americans living in poverty).

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Being like our neighbors
Posted by: lhior on Aug 26, 2005 4:04 AM   
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"So I think that where you live does tend to influence demand. When a lot of people around you are affluent, it's natural human envy to want to be like them. "

I don't know that it is envy as much as a perception of the norm. Zoning laws encourage this. A norm of lot size, square footage etc. define a community. How does one in those communities model a less consumptive lifestyle?

We in this country are and are surrounded by "consumers". How do we get a better sense of how the rest of the world lives and consumes and more to the point how do we create a desire to be more like them?

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Good Luck
Posted by: Stonecutter on Aug 26, 2005 4:30 AM   
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In my view everything the doctor is saying, which is very trenchant, will continue until, as he points out, there's a real crisis throughout the country. Unfortunately, Americans seem to learn these inner truthes, and consider any real change in their values and lifestyle, only through some "tsunami", usually economic. A major recession or depression is likely, given massive government deficits, insane consumer debt and all the boomers moving into retirement, where they will stop working, stop paying into the tax system, and begin withdrawing billions in retirement capital out of the system just to live. What a prescription for economic disaster, and it is looming around the corner. Americans will be forced to change, or go down the tubes. Thanks, Dubya....what a superb job you've done in the past 4 years, taking Clinton's surplus and turning it into economic crap.

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agitator church and state
Posted by: eileen_flmng on Aug 26, 2005 5:11 AM   
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Affluenza is the dis-ease of dis-connection from Spirit. Attempting to fill ourselves with 'stuff' when what we really crave is a deep connection to others and Creation.
Hours of connections to technology; computers and cars removes us from the awe nature/creation can fill us with when we slow down, make friends with silence and go within.
When we meditate/think/reflect we become grateful for what we have and freed from desires of what we have not.

Pres. Bush's advice after 9/11 to American's who wanted to do something to help, was that they should go shoppping. Many of us did not:

www.wearewideawake.org

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Fasting from the feast
Posted by: knitter on Aug 26, 2005 5:13 AM   
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Good article. The religious practice of fasting is for getting back on track when feasting becomes more important than anything. What forms might this fasting take?

Observing the Fast

I shall keep my fast
Until I know my hunger
Called by its true name,
Not what it seems to be.

Is it comfort?
Is it pleasure?
Is it power?
Is it fame?

Anything may fill
But not all satisfies.
Endlessly feasting,
Still might I starve.

Is it healing?
Is it vision?
Is it justice?
Is it peace?

The pangs grow sharp.

Is it wisdom?
Is it faith?

Muscles tremble.

Is it hope?
Is it love?

Empty rumblings
Beg for satisfaction.
Grace names my hunger:
Oh, God!

Mary Lennard

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too late
Posted by: xenacat on Aug 26, 2005 6:20 AM   
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The good Dr. is absolutely correct about the destructive effects of rampant consumerism. It is sad that it is already too late for many of my generation and that of my younger friends to recover from it. In fact, it maybe too late all the way around. This mad desire to be a mindless consumer started mid century. It has accelerated absurdly in the last decade and a half and tainted even my grandparent's generation. It will take another couple of generations to correct the problem, if a real correction takes place at all.

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» not too late Posted by: apocalypsericekitchen
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most people die within 50 miles of where they were born
Posted by: Olympiada on Aug 26, 2005 6:58 AM   
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This was an excellent and most amazing article!

So many good points were brought up. Let me see if I can address 3 like the classic college essay, before I go on my way.
Ok, the first one as stated in the title. It is good to reminded of this normalcy. I am a second generation Bay Area native, meaning my mom was born here. My daughter was born here. I still live here. It is easy to lament my lack of opportunity to travel, but really I am like most of the world's population...So that was heartening to hear.

"People are not supposed to eat all day and take no exercise"
I have to express gratitude for my parents who have been runners for my whole life and who instilled in me a practice of healthful diet and exercise. I was fortunate to have a mother who studied nutrition in the university as well as made everything from scratch and shopped in health food stores. Reading this article made me grateful for my differences...My parents always made me exercise every day when I was growing up...and got on my case about my diet if it was poor, particulary if I ate too many carbohydrates! Yep that is right...my mom would not allow it, and this was way before low-carb diets were hip.

"We're the biggest debtor in the world now" - again I was raised not to go in to debt, my parents and my paternal grandmother do not believe in that. I made the mistake of selling out my own values for a marriage, but I will never do that again. Reading this article made me appreciate my strong stand against going in to debt for my education, I refuse. I am thankful I have not been infected by this American mentality, even though I live here.

It was great to see this thoughtful, well written article. I hope I do not offend any one with my comment. I am re-sponding as I see fit. Nor do I wish to come across as bragging, for that is not my intention. It is only to tell my story.

Oly

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Less is More
Posted by: grammasanity on Aug 26, 2005 7:25 AM   
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Thank you, thank you for a confirmation of what I've been saying for years! We don't need STUFF, we need friends and family and the natural world. We don't need widgets and twinklies, but veggies, fruit and protein, and a couple of nice shirts that are comfortable and wear well. We don't need to be entertained, but to share ideas and good times with others.
More than an hour a day on the web is irritating your brain cells and taking away from real life. TV is designed to make you dissatisfied with real life so you'll buy STUFF. It used to be that 90% of Americans grew food. Now it's about 5%. That makes the other 95% dependent on the for-profit distribution system (the farmers still don't make any money). Does anybody out there feel like a kid who never learned anything important because they were too busy being entertained? Go get some seeds and start a garden (well, plan it for next spring). Wear something you made yourself. Tell your kids stories instead of puting on a dvd. LIVE, don't just watch fake stuff full of come-ons for STUFF!

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Americans are intelligent folks. We're not greedy, if we begin to realize that we're harming ourselv
Posted by: 2rivers on Aug 26, 2005 8:28 AM   
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es. 1st point: does the 'good dr' mean gringos? i live in america, which i think makes me an american, rite? furtunately im NOT a u.s citizen. 2nd: gringos are intelligent ppl ?? i find this to be a rather un-intelligent blanket statement. the person half of you voted in - again- to be prez for another 4 years, reflects rather accurately your state of intelligence. mabe 'americans' are clever, are cunning, but intElligent !??! give us a break

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When is enough plenty?
Posted by: arch_tech on Aug 26, 2005 8:32 AM   
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Excellent discussion on a topic also covered in a book called "Amusing Ourselves to Death, Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business", by Neil Postman. Our thinking about public values and social conciousness has been seriously eroded by a media with huge potential for better visions.

The impact this has on the middle class, in particuar, covered in Barbara Ehrenreich's "Fear of Falling", is quite unnerving. The chasm opening up in the middle class between poverty (more likely because of the prevailing acceptablity of debt) and the upper class of secure financial levels of our society is driven by this erosion of values and social conciousness by consumerism. This leaves an unexamined acceptance of superficial appearances over a fundamental understanding of personal financial security. This will be tragic as the consequences of the vanishing social support network become apparent over the next decade.

Of interest to this psychologist might be a book which delves into this mindset, which was termed "sociopathic" in a book written in 1985 by Alexander Lowen, M.D., "Narcissism". This author was writing as an older professional, expressing serious concern about the cultural changes at the time that were fuelling a narcisisstic world view that corrupted the underpinnings of older value systems which emphasized a coherent world view grounded in financial and social realities. This was apparent even then as the absence of limits or structure which fostered a consumerism instead of focussing on the value of human relationships and structures. It very much reflected an older generational view of the post-1970 era of rebellion against constrictive cultural norms.

I agree that the post-WWII era created a massive cultural change that came out of a reaction to the rationing of war and the earlier 1930's depression that the US soldiers had grown up with, creating an incredible forward momentum during the Kennedy years to grow the country with international policies, winning the space race, and winning the race to wealth. Who knew it would come to this?

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» "sociopathic" Posted by: Olympiada
» RE: When is enough plenty? Posted by: Lathor
There never an L.Ron Hubbard around when you need one.
Posted by: aswgt@ix.netcom.com on Aug 26, 2005 8:37 AM   
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Is this a put-on? A "sensitive critique " of consumerism by a renowned Psychiatrist???

OK, I sympathize. I can see why Dr. Whybrow would want to become an Author. Psychiatry is a depressing, underpaid profession. And then there's the jokes

"I wear this stethasope to I can sit with the other doctors in the lunchroom."

What do you call a Psychiatrist? The waste of a perfectly good physician !!

So if a Psychiatrist decides he'd rather write a superficial book about pop-sociology ... then for example about, oh, "Cognative treatiment of TeenAge Depression -- What a Parent Can Do" ... well, there's so many CSWs writing books on mental illness and what to do about it -- why not?

A Shrink's-eye view of America might be interesting ... about a useful as a Cop's-eye view ... narrowly focussed, but distorted. Neither profession is encouraged to read literature or philosophy except to find convenient labels for bad behaviors. And now, the DSM IV relieves Pschiatrists of knowing even that much Liberal Arts. In fact, these days, they are pretty much required to reject subjectivite analysis and describe their cases entirely in terms of DSM diagnostic criteria check lists and number coded pathologies.

Unbeknownst to them, over on the other side of Campus, out of sight of the pre-Med majors, the Lib Arts underdergrads have been vaporing about the evils of consumerism

"Getting and spending we lay waste our powers
"Too little in Nature we see that is ours "

-- and of over eating -- for the past 150 years at least.
Plato was sermonizing on the lazy, materialistic, over-eating lifestyle of his fellow Athenians circa 375 years BCE. ... as every Hippie and Buddhist missionary will point out, given half a chance.

Oh well. Publishing is a crazy business ... but it might make a welcome change for a psychiatrist.

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We're killing ourselves with economics
Posted by: crz53 on Aug 26, 2005 8:38 AM   
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I think the root of this problem (as with so many of our societal ills), lies primarily in our "chosen" economic system. What really matters is right there in the name: CAPITALism. Capital - money, material wealth - that is what the system deems important, and as such we deem it important. SOCIALism, on the other hand, places the importance on society (read:people). It says that business exists to serve and meet the needs of society, not the other way around.Now, don't take this as an endorsement of Soviet-style, state-run, bureaucratic socialism. I would simply like to see a society and economic structure that values people and relationships more than material shit.

For moreinformation on how to drop out of the unwinnable rat race, check out "www.simpleliving.net".
- Mike Lorenz

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» this is very funny! thanks Posted by: Olympiada
» It's not socialism Posted by: crz53
Not so black and white.
Posted by: kittynboi on Aug 26, 2005 9:40 AM   
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Yes, obsessing over things and status and consumption can be bad, but it's not nearly as unhealthly, I think, as living like some sort of ascetic devoted to family, community, and mediocrity.

I LIKE things, I LIKE owning stuff, I'm not a punk rocker and I have no soul. If material things are all that makes me happy, thats just how I am. But being creative, artistic, and expressing my appreciation for the world makes me happy too, and I suspect that with all the talk of family and the like, artistic creativity and the like would be even more despised by this person and those who agree with him than the most excessive consumerism.

Refraining from consumption means depriving myself not only from the tools I need for artistic expression, but the manifestations of culture, such as comics, music, film, manga, anime, travel, food, information, learning, and experience.

I won't give up my freedom and my ability to artistically express myself in the name of anti consumerism, and I'll never stop being gay just to embrace right wing family values in the name of anti consumerism either. This person would probably have us return to a legally enforced "sabbath".

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It's not just individual, it's institutional
Posted by: iremember on Aug 26, 2005 9:57 AM   
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There should be a greater empahasis here on the extrapolation of the individual desire for more to it's institutional level--insatiable corporate greed. Companies close perfectly productive and profitable enterprises here in the US because they can make even more profit in Mexico, then they run from Mexico to China to make even more money. No matter what they do, no amount of money will ever be enough. This is most glaring with the CEO's, like Michael Eisner of Disney, who pay themselves hundreds of millions of dollars, more money that they could ever spend, more than their children could ever spend. I remember a quote from one of the Koch brothers, of Koch Petroleum, a crooked couple of greedy bastards who, of course, solidly suppoert the Busheviks. After being caught stealing oil from Indian reservation wells, he said he doesn't want more money--he wants ALL the money. Our insatiable greed as a nation will never end volutarily. It will take an economic collapse to accomplish it.

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Very Good
Posted by: nakis on Aug 26, 2005 10:28 AM   
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What a great article and so many great posts. So many well though out writings on the different aspects of the psychology of consumerism and the affects of our current mode. I had to smile. Thanks.

I just wanted to add basically a compliment to a few thing said in regard to the powers that be and how they influence consumerism in America.
Industry and government in America require rampant capitalism to sustain the current economy. Our whole US business structure is built upon us buying stuff. But US business is now floating on air. Air that is created by the action of consumerism. If consumerism slows down enough the force of air created by that consumerism diminishes enough business will come crashing down along with the economy. Rampant capitalism requires and ever growing consumption of resources and products. Nothing is eternal and everything has limits. But capitalism ignores this fact and believes it can sustain itself.
With this in mind it is the job of industry and government to sell the idea that we need to consume all kinds of products. That competition is the only way for an economy to function. That socialistic principles do not function.

The author does not maintain that the out of control consumerism is only a result of the minds of the people thankfully. The high level of irresponsible consumerism is mostly caused by the exploitation of the natural weakness of the human mind by industry and government as it serves their purpose for creating wealth.
Sure we have a responsibility to ourselves. We make our choices but we are constantly bombarded with advertisements and propaganda to support our continued buying of objects we don't need.

This doesn't mean that we should stop buying stuff completely and join a cloistered religious group or live in communes. Please do if you wish of course. But we should ask ourselves if what we are buying is really what we need. Or is how we live our life compliant to a sustainable future for ourselves and our descendants.

To me, the authors article is just a call to question what we do. Buy that DVD if you really like the movie. But is the box recycleable if the DVD goes bad? Do you really need to own Gigli? Or is it just an impulse?
Do you want a car that doesn't use gasoline and doesn't produce pollution or do you want a hummer that gets under 10mpg at times?

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» RE: Very Good Posted by: realmuzik
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Posted by: nakis on Aug 26, 2005 10:29 AM   
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Will you be happier with that abscizer? Riendeer lawn ornament? 10 hour marathon of Happy Days? Working 10hours, working out 2hours,and putting in some computer work before bed?
Some of the happiest people I know have a flower and herb farm that sell their products at a farmer's market.

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» Happiness Posted by: Olympiada
Thoughts on community and social climbing
Posted by: davelwhite on Aug 26, 2005 10:45 AM   
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My two thoughts about this article are:

(1) Family and community have already degenerated. This doesn't mean that I am advocating some "traditional family". I think some changes to the family such as gender equality, equal rights for GLBT and other alternative family forms, and so forth are wonderful and important. But at the same time as these good things have been happening, we have been losing other types of ties that would be helpful and important. The definition of friendship in a 1755 dictionary was "the highest degree of intimacy," and friends today who expressed devotion, affection, or interest in shared projects in the way that is traditional would be marked as "clingy" by our current culture that sees most friendships as temporary. Meanwhile, the definition of family itself has of course changed to focus on spou