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Joking Along Color Lines

By Sheerly Avni, Pacific News Service. Posted August 24, 2005.


As 'The Aristocrats' opens nationwide, co-director Paul Provenza explains why Chris Rock and Whoopi Goldberg are the only blacks in his documentary.
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So, 75 white comedians walk into a movie…

This is not the central joke of The Aristocrats, a documentary that opened nationwide this weekend, but it could be. Cutting between interviews and performances of more than 70 comic masters, including Sarah Silverman, Drew Carey, Michael McKean, Eddie Izzard, Paul Reiser and the "South Park" guys, the film traces the history of stand-up's most obscene inside joke -- with almost no commentary from the nation's many black comedians.

By now you may know the joke, but comedians have been telling the gag to each other off-stage since at least as far back as the turn of the century. The set up: A guy is pitching his act, to an agent. The punch line: The act is called "The Aristocrats." Its meat, however, is all the vile stuff that happens in between. The description of the act gives each comedian in the film a chance to show off his or her chops and wax scatological, profane, bestial, necrophiliac and spectacularly offensive. The beauty and appeal of The Aristocrats lies in the virtuosic skills of its tellers: Forget shocking the crowd; watch what it takes to shock the shockers.

But the glaring absence of so much black talent -- and Latino and Asian talent, for that matter -- is a shocker, too. It's especially ironic given the movie's references to the joke as a jazz riff, and comparisons to Miles Davis and John Coltrane. We hear only from Whoopi Goldberg and Chris Rock. No Dave Chappelle, Bernie Mac, Eddie Murphy, Cedric the Entertainer, Margaret Cho, Wanda Sykes, Steve Harvey, DL Hughley, Bill Cosby, Chris Tucker, George Wallace, Flip Wilson, Richard Pryor… the list goes on and on.

Paul Provenza, the film's co-director and himself a respected comedian, doesn't hesitate when I ask how a movie that posits race as the final taboo manages to leave out so many talented non-white comedians. "It is what it is," he says. "But Chris Rock explains why so succinctly in the film, there was nothing we could possibly add."

Rock's explanation is this: Historically, blacks could be as raunchy as they wanted on the infamous chitlin' circuit, and they had no chance of getting on TV or radio anyway. The opportunity to be obscene is less exciting when you can be obscene whenever you want, unheard and unpaid, and you are already on the outskirts of respectability. Unlike almost all the other big-name comics who appear in The Aristocrats, Rock himself does not try to tell the joke.

But that's only part of the story. Provenza and Teller did cast a wide net, beginning with their friends and then reaching out to their favorite comics in the business. But the Hollywood publicity machine knows no color lines, and the most recognizable names on that list of noticeably absent comedians are so well-protected by the phalanx of publicists, managers and agents that even Provenza and co-director Penn Gilette, of Penn and Teller fame, couldn't get through.

Wanda Sikes? Couldn't get to her. Jamie Foxx? Chris Tucker? They never heard from their "people."

Chappelle, who loved the joke, could never make time to film. The directors were lucky enough to catch Chris Rock backstage, with camera in hand. As for the venerable Richard Pryor, "Every comedian in America wishes they were Richard Pryor," says Provenza, who wanted him so badly that he called his idol's wife at home, even though he knew the legendary comedian was ill. "We could hear him laughing and coughing in the background."

Then there were black comedians like Bernie Mac and DL Hughley who didn't know the joke, but agreed to try and do it for the movie "to be nice."

"That didn't seem right either," Provenza says. "We could have let them help us out just so we could get more black faces in, but that would have been totally disingenuous."

The reality is that the gag has historically been a white person's joke, the crystal meth of American humor. "This racial divide is there, and the last thing we'd want to do is try to cover that up to be PC," Provenza says. In fact, Provenza considers political correctness one of stand-up's richest sources of material, and several comics in his film concur, pointing out that talking about race has replaced talking about sex as comedy's best transgression.

But Provenza thinks that could be on its way out, too. "Just like Whoopi said, I'm not even sure if race is the shocker anymore. Now when I tell the joke, I set it in Abu Ghraib."

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Sheerly Avni is a San Francisco-based writer.

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Movies have lost their cultural influence
Posted by: scarletthucklebee on Aug 24, 2005 3:10 AM   
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No one goes to the movies anymore and this piece of trash is one more reason why. As far as Hollywood's lack of blacks in executive positions, that came out several years ago, just before Denzel Washington and Halle Berry won their academy awards. Hollywood and their cinema elite like to take pot shots at the rest of the country on moral issues but in this case it is literally like the pot calling the kettle black.

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Flip Wilson's No Longer Available for this...
Posted by: gs15 on Aug 24, 2005 4:18 AM   
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Someone neglected to inform the writer that Flip Wilson passed away some years ago (about 1998 I believe).

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» And.... Posted by: heady2112
I havent seen this movie
Posted by: flatulence3 on Aug 24, 2005 4:24 AM   
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I dont really care what the racial quota is though when I go to movies. I also dont care about racial quotas in companies schools or anything else for that matter. The only people who seem to care about racial quotas are liberals. Its all in their feeble attempts to label conservatives as racists. Whenever liberals are in trouble, they embrace the blacks to appear more caring. How ridiculous.
Racism is the belief that one race is superior to another, and the liberals are up to their necks in it.
As far as affirmative action goes. I ask you.
Would you liberals who are all about affirmative action have open heart surgery in affirmative action hospital? Would you fly affirmative action airlines? I rest my case. Good day

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» RE: I havent seen this movie Posted by: nickptar
» RE: I havent seen this movie Posted by: lamy_chop
You Missed the Point
Posted by: nosylae on Aug 24, 2005 7:19 AM   
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I think that the point of this horribly written article is that the reason there are hardly any black people (meant by the author as 'non-white') in this documentary is that this was and is a mostly "white" joke. As the author points out, more than a few notable black comedians did not even know the joke.

Does that imply racism by hollywood? Does that imply racism by the comedy culture as a group? Why didn't anyone ask these questions when the "Kings of Comedy" movie came out? Is that reverse discrimination? No. That's just the way that it is.

However, if this article were written coherently, we could be discussing more important issues regarding race rather than arguing the nuances of quotas and affirmative action.

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Us white folks are croppin up all over - again
Posted by: dancerkc on Aug 24, 2005 8:29 AM   
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Whether this is a well-written article or not and whether I had much interest in a movie about comedians (I really don't and nearly didn't bother with the article) this brings up an observation for me.

Over the last several years I've noticed that the networks and local stations all seem to be getting whiter. At first it seemed to be a troubling undercurrent I couldn't quite define. I just knew something was vaguely off. It didn't feel right.

Lately I realize that it isn't a vague feeling. non-whites (as the term tends to be used) have been disappearing. And not just from the front end. I think that means the back end, the owners and managers, have remained almost all "white" (again whatever that means considering that some of the people who claim color look whiter than me - and I am among the UV challenged!).

It just gives me a very unbalanced feeling - and I don't mean in terms of numeric quotas. Maybe I should say uneasy. It seems to go along with the loss of genuine journalism or maybe the rise and permiation of a right-wing power structure.

I confess I don't know exactly where the source is nor do I have a good solution. But I think we need to notice this more otherwise we will be back in the mid 70's calling attention to the first black person on the cover of Vogue - again.

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Pirro for senate 2006!
Posted by: flatulence4 on Aug 24, 2005 1:57 PM   
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Jeanine pirro will beat Hillary Clinton in 2006! This doesnt have anyhting to do with the article , but, I dont care!

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» RE: Pirro for senate 2006! Posted by: Asses of Evil
hehehegemony
Posted by: skilla on Aug 24, 2005 3:04 PM   
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Well personally, the most important thing this article presents is the level of hegemony in our culture and society. I would argue that this is racist, but over the years I have realized that many people don’t know what racism is these days. To look at it in a totally 'logical' way, the problem here is that our society thinks with a white-male mind, which deals with everything in respect to its own 'reality'. So, if you are not a white male comedian you are labeled a Female comedian or a Black or Latino or Asian comedian (some might argue that this is just reality but I argue it is entitlement).

furthermore, the article exposes that race isn't 'in' anymore, that race jokes aren’t as jarring as this new sidesplitting topic of crimes against humanity; the reason for that now is that this white-male mind our society thinks with is also capitalist and will buy and sell all images over media or other markets solely on their 'uniqueness' freshness or difference-- draining them until they will not sell (cultural commodificaiton).this explains how once 'king's of comedy', Bernie Mac and DL Hugley are now seen with their own shows that are hanging from a thread and well probably wont last another season since it seems Chapelle has made all the jokes about race a person can.

This article points out that there is racism still in our time, and we must also realize that most of the other prejudices are still around and just as strong. No matter how progressive some may argue the media has become, this is one piece of evidence among so much more that exposes our white-male-capitalist hegemon with a bad case of xenophobia

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Embarrasing
Posted by: Michiganman on Aug 24, 2005 5:02 PM   
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What a buncha pitiful, lame excuses. Only 2 black comedians included screams RACISM! Put makeup on this pig of an article but it's still a shame.

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» RE: mbarrasing Posted by: matty
What's funny about what?
Posted by: hagwind on Aug 27, 2005 8:40 AM   
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How many women comedians are there in this movie? How many lesbians? Margaret Cho isn't there; how about Kate Clinton? For that matter, how about the very funny comics who are out there masquerading as singer-songwriters, like Cheryl Wheeler and Christine Lavin?

Consider the possibility that stand-up comedy is a white male genre. Some non-whites and some non-males do it extremely well. With a few exceptions, like Jimmy Tingle, they're the ones most worth listening to. But still, at heart it's a white man's game.

Way back when, feminists were forever being accused of not having a sense of humor. I couldn't understand this because when I and my feminist friends worked together, rallied together, partied together, we laughed a lot. Often we laughed at the idea that we didn't have a sense of humor. One thing we noticed is that often our laughter wasn't inspired by jokes that one person told and other people laughed at. More often someone would tell a story or make an observation, and someone else would embellish it, and someone else would be reminded of a tale her mother had told her, and pretty soon we'd all be holding our sides and reaching for the kleenex.

This doesn't translate well into stand-up. The dearth of people of color (and, I suspect, women) in _The Aristocrats_ may be because most of our humor takes place offstage.

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Sounds like an interesting film
Posted by: jasonpick on Nov 3, 2005 11:09 PM   
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Sad to see whats happened to Richard Priar, I almost wish cameras would leave him alone so we can remember him as he was in his youth.
As far as the movie being racist or sexist? I highly doubt that applies in this case. I think its funny how many self described "smart liberals" make posts w/out reading the article... at least I hope thats why these comments are so off base.
ps. if not- we're gonna have a lot of trouble in 2008.

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