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Conscience Of a Juror

By Arundhati Roy, Democracy Now!. Posted June 28, 2005.


To ask why there is a World Tribunal on Iraq is like asking someone who stops at the site of an accident where people are dying, why did you stop?

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The World Tribunal on Iraq wrapped its three-day session Monday in Istanbul, Turkey after three days of hearings in which they investigated various issues related to the war on Iraq, such as the legality of the war, the role of the United Nations, war crimes and the role of the media, as well as the destruction of the cultural sites and the environment.

The 17-member Jury of Conscience delivered its verdict at a news conference, reading in part: "Recognizing the right of the Iraqi people to resist the illegal occupation of their country and to develop independent institutions, and affirming that the right to resist the occupation is the right to wage a struggle for self-determination, freedom, and independence as derived from the Charter of the United Nations, we the Jury of Conscience declare our solidarity with the people of Iraq."

Arundhati Roy, Chair of Jury of Conscience, addressed the World Tribunal on Iraq, June 26, 2005:

When I was invited to be on the jury by the W.T.I. -- yesterday, when they were making a film, they asked me, "Why did you agree? You must have had so many invitations; why did you choose this?" And I said, you know, "I feel so hurt that you are asking me this question. Because it's ours. You know, where else would I be? What other invitations would matter to me when we have to attend to this, this huge, enormous bloody thing?" You know, since I'm not a lawyer, nor am I even much of an organizer, nor am I even somebody who has been particularly concerned about my legitimacy or, you know.

I don't think in sort of legal and bureaucratic terms, so you know, I didn't really go down the road of questioning who we are or who we represent, because to me it was a bit like somebody asking me whether I had the legitimacy to write a novel. I mean, we're just a group of human beings, whether we are five or ten or fifteen or ten million. Surely, we have the right to express an opinion, and surely, if that opinion is irrelevant, surely, if that opinion is full of false facts, surely, if that opinion is absurd, it will be treated as such, and if that opinion is, in fact, representative of the opinion of millions of people, it will become very huge.

So we don't need to really worry ourselves too much about defining ourselves. I think we need to worry about being very clear, being very honest, being very precise about what we think and express that fearlessly and in solidarity with the values that all of us have so clearly expressed in so many ways here today.

I really think this last three days...speaking as a writer, what I seek with complete greed, what I seek almost ruthlessly is understanding. You know, that is all that I ever ask for, an understanding of the debt of this world we live in. And that was a gift that one received, and I will always be grateful for it.

To ask us why we are doing this, you know, why is there a World Tribunal on Iraq, is like asking, you know, someone who stops at the site of an accident where people are dying on the road, why did you stop? Why didn't you keep walking like everybody else?

While I listened to the testimonies yesterday, especially, I must say that I didn't know -- I mean, not that one has to choose, but still, you know, I didn't know what was more chilling, you know, the testimonies of those who came from Iraq with the stories of the blood and the destruction and the brutality and the darkness of what was happening there, or the stories of that cold, calculated world where the business contracts are being made, where the laws are rewritten, where a country occupies another with no idea of how it's going to provide protection to people, but with such a sophisticated idea of how it's going to loot it of its resources. You know, the brutality or the contrast of those two things was so chilling.

There were times when I felt, I wish I wasn't on the jury, because I want to say things. You know? I mean, I think that is the nature of this tribunal, that, in a way, one wants to be everything. You want to be on the jury, you want to be on the other side, you want to say things. And I particularly wanted to talk a lot about -- which I won't do now, so don't worry, but I wanted to talk a lot about my own... several years of experience with issues of resistance, strategies of resistance, the fact that we actually tend to reach for easy justifications of violence and non-violence, easy and not really very accurate historical examples. These are things we should worry about.

But at the end of it, today we do seem to live in a world where the United States of America has defined an enemy combatant, someone whom they can kidnap from any country, from anyplace in the world and take for trial to America. An enemy combatant seems to be anybody who harbors thoughts of resistance. Well, if this is the definition, then I, for one, am an enemy combatant. Thank you.

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Arundhati Roy lives in New Delhi, India. She is the author of "The God of Small Things" and "Power Politics" (South End Press).

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Posted by: Brandoc-D'Ha on Jun 28, 2005 4:19 AM   
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Pretty gutsy...to declare oneself as an enemy combatant. She must be salivating at the chance to vacation in the new state of the art concentration camp that Halliburton is going to build in sunny Gitmo.

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Arundhati Roy rules; voices, vision, honesty and common sense....
Posted by: neilemac on Jun 28, 2005 5:36 AM   
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"..the testimonies of those who came from Iraq with the stories of the blood and the destruction and the brutality and the darkness of what was happening there, or the stories of that cold, calculated world where the business contracts are being made, where the laws are rewritten, where a country occupies another with no idea of how it's going to provide protection to people, but with such a sophisticated idea of how it's going to loot it of its resources. You know, the brutality or the contrast of those two things was so chilling...."

I realize agreement with Arundhati Roy fruffles the feathers of the THEOCORPORATISTS dictating foreign and domestic policy from within the hallowed halls of the White House, but a trusted person of world reknown, using experience, fact and courage vision and common sense must be heard. She's quite factual when she goes on to say "today we do seem to live in a world where the United States of America has defined an enemy combatant, someone whom they can kidnap from any country, from anyplace in the world and take for trial to America. An enemy combatant seems to be anybody who harbors thoughts of resistance. Well, if this is the definition, then I, for one, am an enemy combatant.

I ditto that Mz Roy. Now if we can only convince the "lied to" citizens of the US to wake up, follow your lead and oppose the real tyrants running roughshod over not only the world's liberties and resources, but their own people's too ....Bush/Cheney and the seemingly blindfolded administration obeying their dictates. (Where do you think the word "dictator" -a tyrant; a despot- comes from?) Yes it's time for Arundhati Roy's rules, vision, honesty and common sense. namasté

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» Fascism in the USA Posted by: susan9390
America is an enemy combatent
Posted by: dan10opa on Jun 28, 2005 8:13 AM   
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We have been kidnapped by the the Bush mafia/neo-cons. We are all on trial.
We must become insurgents and take back our country from the fascists.

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» RE: ? Posted by: dan10opa
» RE: You are so silly Posted by: dan10opa
» RE: You are so silly Posted by: susan9390
» Very poignant Susan Posted by: WhatNow?
» RE: Very poignant Susan Posted by: susan9390
Fascism in the USA - cont.
Posted by: susan9390 on Jun 28, 2005 8:39 AM   
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Next, July 16 is the 60th anniversary of the first nuclear test, and August 6 is the 60th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima. Pilgrimages starting on the first date will end at massive demonstrations at nuclear facilities on the second date. PLEASE participate in the one nearest you. There is strength in numbers, and we have a golden opportunity here to be seen, heard, counted, photographed, and discussed. The rally and pilgrimage in my area is described in detail at Charleston Peace, and the national-level coordination is handled by www.stopthebombs.org, Stop the Bombs. (The HTML tags only seem to work once here.)

Next, let's see how each of us can implement the recommendations of the Tribunal on a personal level. For example, first (because it's Recommendation number one), let's mobilize Veterans Against War to see what they can do about getting as many of our occupying forces out of Iraq as possible through AWOL, conscientious objection, or political asylum if necessary. ACLU, CCCO, and Amnesty International could be helpful with that effort. Let's call for a boycott of all of the corporations, media, and other organizations named as well as the impeachment of all of the individuals named. Starting in '06, let's make 45% of our income tax payable to the Iraqi nation until our debt is paid in order to honor Recommendation number two. (That's the defense portion, in round numbers; but see www.taxresisters.org for how-to help.) That's just off the top of my head; I don't have the 10 Recommendations in front of me at the moment.

After we've accomplished the above, then it will be time to talk about assuming the status of an enemy combatant. That's easy for Ms. Roy to say from the safety of the other side of the world, but we have to live with the consequences of our acts of defiance.

Come out of your closets, activists! Now is the moment! Let's make this count!

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OK That's At Least Twice
Posted by: nakis on Jun 28, 2005 11:26 AM   
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So to tribunals have been held (that I have heard of). One in New York during the neocon cabal called the Republican National Convention.
I recognize the validity to hold tribunals that call it like it is.

Now what? On-line and on-feet activism. Speak to your neighbors and friends. Let them know what's going on. Let you legislators, state and federal, know what you think and believe. Take part in protests, marches, vigils, etc.. .
Nothing new to say.

It's just that without energy, action, voices, to back up these tribunals they will hardly be even footnotes in foreign history books. God knows they will not be in US history books.

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Miss Roy and Pretty Power
Posted by: pjrsullivan on Jun 28, 2005 1:16 PM   
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Miss Roy has Previously, Described Americas heroic removal of Saddam Hussein as equivalent to deifying Jack the Ripper for disemboweling the Boston Strangler.

Of course we have since learned that both Jack the ripper and the Boston Strangler have their entire families on the payroll and in the employ of the Pentagon.

Miss Roy has declared herself an "Enemy combatant," and of course the coordinator of most all of the terror and crimes against humanity reside within the walls of the Pentagon.

The Pentagon now hosts a brigade of Bloodsucking Transylvanian ghouls, along with their International cannibal apparatchik, appointed by the resident clerk in Chief, while the Beast from Bruton street prances out the Holy men of London to baptize and Christen this reign of genocidal bloodletting.

The lines of the combatants have now been made clear; it is a battle to the end between those on the side of the Pentagon, and those of the forces of Miss Roy. Which shall be the victor, shall it be "Ghoul power, or is there a chance that "Pretty power" shall win.

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