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Something Rotten in Ohio

By Gore Vidal, The Nation. Posted June 14, 2005.


The disturbing truths about the last election in Ohio have been largely ignored by the press and the Congress.

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Outside the oil and gas junta that controls two and a half branches of our government (the half soon to be whole is the judiciary), there was a good deal of envy at the late British election among those Americans who are serious about politics. Little money was spent by the three parties and none for TV advertising. Results were achieved swiftly and cheaply. Best of all, the three party leaders were quizzed sharply and intelligently by ordinary citizens known quaintly as subjects, thanks to the ubiquitous phantom crown so unlike our nuclear-taloned predatory eagle. Although news of foreign countries seldom appears in our tightly censored media (and good news, never), those of us who are addicted to C-SPAN and find it the one truly, if unconsciously, subversive media outlet in these United States are able to observe British politics in full cry.

I say "subversive" not only because C-SPAN is apt to take interesting books seriously but also because its live coverage of the Senate and the House of Representatives is the only look we are ever allowed at the mouthpieces of our masters up close and is, at times, most reflective of a government more and more remote from us, unaccountable and repressive. To watch the righteous old prophet Byrd of West Virginia, the sunny hypocrisy of Biden of Delaware -- as I write these hallowed names, I summon up their faces, hear their voices, and I am covered with C-SPAN goose bumps.

At any rate, wondrous C-SPAN has another string to its bow. While some executive was nodding, C-SPAN started showing us Britain's House of Commons during Question Time. This is the only glimpse that most Americans will ever get of how democracy is supposed to work.

These party leaders are pitted against one another in often savage debate on subjects of war and peace, health and education. Then some 600 Members of Parliament are allowed to ask questions of their great chieftains. Years ago the incomparable Dwight Macdonald wrote that any letter to the London Times (the Brits are inveterate letter writers on substantive issues) is better written than any editorial in the New York Times.

In addition to Question Time, which allows Americans to see how political democracy works, as opposed to our two chambers of lobbyists for corporate America, C-SPAN also showed the three party leaders being interrogated by a cross section of, for the most part, youthful subjects of the phantom crown and presided over by an experienced political journalist. Blair was roughly accused of lying about the legal advice he had received apropos Britain's right to go to war in Iraq for the US oil and gas junta. This BBC live audience asked far more informed and informative questions than the entire US press corps was allowed to ask Bush et al. in our recent election. But Americans are not used to challenging authority in what has been called wartime by a President who has ordered invasions of two countries that have done us no harm and is now planning future wars despite dwindling manpower and lack of money. Blair, for just going along, had to deal with savage, informed questions of a sort that Bush would never answer even if he were competent to do so.

So we have seen what democracy across the water can do. All in all a jarring experience for anyone foolish enough to believe that America is democratic in anything except furiously imprisoning the innocent and joyously electing the guilty. What to do? As a first step, I invite the radicals at C-SPAN who take seriously our Constitution and Bill of Rights to address their attention to the corruption of the presidential election of 2004, particularly in the state of Ohio.

One of the most useful members of the House -- currently the most useful -- is John Conyers, a Michigan Democrat who, in his capacity as ranking minority member of the Judiciary Committee, led the committee's Democratic Congressmen and their staffers into the heart of the American heartland, the Western Reserve; specifically, into the not-so-red state of Ohio, once known as "the mother of Presidents."

He had come to answer the question that the minority of Americans who care about the Republic have been asking since November 2004: "What went wrong in Ohio?" He is too modest to note the difficulties he must have undergone even to assemble this team in the face of the triumphalist Republican Congressional majority, not to mention the unlikely heir to himself, George W. Bush, whose original selection by the Supreme Court brought forth many reports on what went wrong in Florida in 2000.

These led to an apology from Associate Justice John Paul Stevens for the behavior of the 5-to-4 majority of the Court in the matter of Bush v. Gore. Loser Bush then brought on undeclared wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as the greatest deficits in our history and the revelations that the policies of an Administration that -- much as Count Dracula fled cloves of garlic -- flees all accountability were responsible for the murder and torture of captive men, between 70 percent and 90 percent of whom, by the Pentagon's estimate, had been swept up at random, earning us the hatred of a billion Muslims and the disgust of what is called the civilized world.

Asked to predict who would win in '04, I said that, again, Bush would lose, but I was confident that in the four years between 2000 and 2004 creative propaganda and the fixing of election officials might very well be so perfected as to insure an official victory for Mr. Bush. As Representative Conyers's report, Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio (3.2 MB PDF link), shows in great detail, the swing state of Ohio was carefully set up to deliver an apparent victory for Bush even though Kerry appears to have been the popular winner as well as the valedictorian-that-never-was of the Electoral College.

I urge would-be reformers of our politics as well as of such anachronisms as the Electoral College to read Conyers's valuable guide on how to steal an election once you have in place the supervisor of the state's electoral process: In this case, Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, who orchestrated a famous victory for those who hate democracy (a permanent but passionate minority). The Conyers Report states categorically, "With regards to our factual finding, in brief, we find that there were massive and unprecedented voter irregularities and anomalies in Ohio. In many cases these irregularities were caused by intentional misconduct and illegal behavior, much of it involving Secretary of State Kenneth J. Blackwell, the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio." In other words, the Florida 2000 scenario redux, when the chair for Bush/Cheney was also the Secretary of State. Lesson? Always plan ahead for at least four more years.

It is well-known in the United States of Amnesia that not only did Ohio have a considerable number of first-time voters but that Blackwell and his gang, through "the misallocation of voting machines led to unprecedented long lines that disenfranchised scores, if not hundreds of thousands, of predominantly minority and Democratic voters."

For the past few years many of us have been warning about the electronic voting machines, first publicized on the Internet by investigator Bev Harris, for which she was much reviled by the officers of such companies as Diebold, Sequoia, ES&S, Triad; this last voting computer company "has essentially admitted that it engaged in a course of behavior during the recount in numerous counties to provide 'cheat sheets' to those counting the ballots. The cheat sheets informed election officials how many votes they should find for each candidate, and how many over and under votes they should calculate to match the machine count. In that way, they could avoid doing a full county-wide hand recount mandated by state law."

Yet despite all this manpower and money power, exit polls showed that Kerry would win Ohio. So, what happened?

I have told more than enough of this mystery story so thoroughly investigated by Conyers and his Congressional colleagues and their staffers. Not only were the crimes against democracy investigated but the report on What Went Wrong in Ohio comes up with quite a number of ways to set things right.

Needless to say, this report was ignored when the Electoral College produced its unexamined tally of the votes state by state. Needless to say, no joint committee of the two houses of Congress was convened to consider the various crimes committed and to find ways and means to avoid their repetition in 2008, should we be allowed to hold an election once we have unilaterally, yet again, engaged in a war -- this time with Iran. Anyway, thanks to Conyers, the writing is now high up there on the wall for us all to see clearly: "Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin." Students of the Good Book will know what these words of God meant to Belshazzar and his cronies in old Babylon.

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Gore Vidal is a contributing editor to The Nation, and a novelist, playwright and essayist. His recent books include Dreaming War: Blood for Oil and the Cheney-Bush Junta and Imperial America, out in paperback this September (Thunder's Mouth/Nation Books).

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Where are the voting machines?
Posted by: ggmurray on Jun 14, 2005 3:50 AM   
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There is indeed something rotten. Everyone knows it, and what are we doing about it?
Where are the the OCR optical character reading voting machines that leave a verifiable paper trail, and enough of them to fully stock every precinct?
Perhaps it is time to invite the UN in to supervise our next election.

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» RE: Where are the voting machines? Posted by: monkeywrench
I've said it before....
Posted by: churchofone on Jun 14, 2005 4:18 AM   
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....and I'll say it again: God Bless John Conyers!

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The two muses return.
Posted by: kinlink on Jun 14, 2005 4:18 AM   
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Its been too long since I've spontaneously laughed at our political scene. Thank you Gore, even as now i must weep.

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JINGOIST
Posted by: jingoist on Jun 14, 2005 4:45 AM   
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How about this. Every living non felon who is eligible to vote is issued a computerized voter card. Before this person votes they are given a paper ballot. The face on the computerized scan card MUST match the bearer of the card and is checked immediatly in the system to ensure eligibility and protect against multiple votes. The system (and you) have a paper trail and you only get to vote once. Granted, it would discriminate against illegal aliens voting in border states but we are interested in accuracy after all. Another newly discriminated-against minority would be that group of Democratic stalwarts known as DEAD PEOPLE! That's right, Chicago elections will never be the same. The biggest logistical problem (other than those pesky dead Dems.) is ensuring that the govt. uses this info. for election purposes only. Recap; Walk in the polling station, scan your card, they give you a paper ballot which you insert into the machine where you vote for your favorite redistributionist, take your reciept, go home and watch Oprah or Jerry Springer. Hopefully this helps eliminate confusion during voting. JINGOIST

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Posted by: Peace on Jun 14, 2005 5:17 AM   
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The UN should have sent observers to report on the US election in 2004.
After the 2000 election it was obvious that the US was not capable of running a fair election.

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» RE: Mr Posted by: Ninjafish
DaftAida
Posted by: DaftAida on Jun 14, 2005 5:58 AM   
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It may look, from an American perspective, that we across the pond exercise healthy democratic debate with our 'leaders' on platforms such as Question Time but don't be fooled! True, the Brits do demand some form of accountability which is stage-managed through programmes appearing to offer rigorous debate. However, these are just platforms for venting and shaping public opinion; a safer option to resentment building to the degree that we take it to the streets. However, these little plays make no difference whatsoever to the planned outcome. One of the first 'debates' I watched on the 'proposed' invasion of Iraq, was Tony Benn, MP holding firm against a vociferous panel of warmongers. Audience and public votes ran throughout the programme and I was gobsmacked (as we say) that the results showed 91% of us were against this invasion. Gosh, they're awake, I thought. Naturally, this type of platform merely indicates the depth of spin required to soften up public perception. As usual, the people's view on how their tax is spent and how their elected leaders behave on their behalf was totally ignored anyway. By the time the invasion occurred, opposition had fallen by around 40% because in the ensuing weeks of media exposure, the otherwise uninformed felt satisfied that the issue had been thoroughly debated (i.e. Sadam demonised) 'there's no smoke without fire, and the hope we may be liberating the people from tyranny! So much for democracy. Still, I take the point that at least some show of candid appraisal to appease the masses is made in UK, whereas you guys are treated with what amounts to open contempt by Bush et al. Whereas the contempt shown to the British people is subtly disguised.

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Reality Doesn't Conform to the Official Version
Posted by: stlaura on Jun 14, 2005 6:09 AM   
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All the post-election protests and petitions in Ohio were dismissed as the squawking of sore losers, radicals and a few malcontents. Repeatedly we were told our version of reality didn’t conform to official inquiries into the matter. Evidence that voting procedures were being manipulated, including huge discrepancies between exit polls and final outcome, was dismissed.
Here’s what voting was like in Ohio. My rural township had plenty of voting machines, wait time less than 15 minutes. Affluent friends’ suburban voting wait tended to be under a half hour. Friends’ poorest Cleveland neighborhoods had minimal machines and few workers, average wait time between 2 and 4 hours. Several local colleges had wait times up to 9 hours. People who were least likely to afford the time to stand in line were expected to do so, thousands surely gave up, but even of those who did wait many of their votes were not counted due to “errors” such as incorrect registrations. Repeatedly I heard about fewer voting machines than there were in the primaries, but only in Democratic areas. Officials denied these accounts.
Ohio, once a solidly comfortable state, is now rock bottom poor, environmentally devastated and plagued by the poor physical and mental health of its residents. Go figure. As the nation lifts from economic troubles our state continues to suffer job loss and heavy economic decline.
The disasters and absurdities visited upon us by the Bush administration will build until all those who are sleeping wake up. If the collapse of our democratic voting system, loss of our civil rights and the horror of an illegal war don’t do it, God help us all.

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The USA is a scam! Democracy is a scam! The US is a banker colony!
Posted by: Ken Kirk on Jun 14, 2005 6:14 AM   
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In 1604, a group of leading politicians, businessmen, merchants, manufacturers and bankers, met in Greenwich, then in the English county of Kent, and formed a corporation called the Virginia Company in anticipation of the imminent influx of white Europeans, mostly British at first, into the North American continent. Its main stockholder was King James I, and the original charter for the company was completed by April 10th 1606. After the original 13 American colonies won their ‘independence’ and an ‘independent’ country was formed after 1783, the Virginia Company simply changed its name to... the United States of America. You see there are two USAs, or rather a USA and a usA. The united states of America with a lower case ‘u’ and ‘s’ are the lands of the various states. These lands, are still owned by the British Crown as the head of the old Virginia Company. Then there is the United States of America, capital ‘U’ and ‘S’, which is the 68 square miles of land west of the Potomac River on which is built the federal capital, Washington DC and the District of Columbia. It also includes the US protectorates of Guam and Puerto Rico. The United States of America is not a country...
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apfn.org/apfn/queen.htm
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savethemales.ca/000447.html
cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/
freedomdomain.com/banking/the_city.html
paulsholtz.com/century/collectivism.html
zyx.org/ROTHSCHILDS.htm
biblebelievers.org.au/bb980304.htm
greatdreams.com/political/cabal3.htm
cyberone.com.au/myers/money-masters.html
uaces.org/E53Luo.pdf
centralbanking.co.uk
themoneymasters.com/
mayanmajix.com/UCC_course_2.pdf
biblebelievers.org.au/empire.htm
supremelaw.org/authors/gould/part02.htm
phoenixsourcedistributors.com/010620.pdf
Sincerely,
Kenneth-Leonard of the Kirk family
kenkirk@marijuanapartyofalberta.com

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"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"
Posted by: mshelbyinaz on Jun 14, 2005 6:16 AM   
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Can we? Are we strong enough to admit to ourselves that when it comes to our presidentia elections that we live in a Bannana Republic? Or are we like Jack Nicholson's character in A Few Good Men who makes it clear that we do live in a world where the truth, if it's just too ugly, is shoved aside.

Call your Senators and Congressional representatives and demand a full investigation of the 2004 (might as well include 2000 while you're at it) elections. Our democracy was stolen, twice, and will be again and again as long as there is electronic voting and the Rapturecon BushCo death-cult Christo-fascist lootocracy in power. If we don't, if the movement to investigate and right the wrongs of the last two presidential elections doesn't take on the same weight and momentem that the investigation of the Downing Steet Memo now has, we are doomed to repeat that history again and again.

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It cost me $20
Posted by: carl97 on Jun 14, 2005 8:02 AM   
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I moved from Ohio around election time in 2004 and didn't want to miss such an important election, so I applied for an absentee ballot. Weeks went by and no ballot. So, I got in touch with my board of elections and they claimed they had not gotten my application. I ended up having to certify-mail my request and overnight my ballot. Was my vote counted? Who knows?

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Today Is The Day
Posted by: Sandra on Jun 14, 2005 8:41 AM   
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Are we all fed up enough to pursue several goals at one time? Are we disgusted, angry and thoughtful enough to demand real significant changes? We the people can demand clean up of our election process. That includes campaign finance reform and clean up of the actual voting process including machines. We can pursue this while we pursue accountability for this administration. What good does it do us to kick Bush and crew out, if future elections are rigged before we step into that voting booth and if our choice of candidates has been predetermined by corporate America and the military industrial complex? There are more of us than there are of them, but we need to speak out in large enough numbers that we drown out the special interests.

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Bush didn't win
Posted by: cyclone on Jun 14, 2005 8:53 AM   
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Clearly, this election was stolen. I haven't heard one person mention this, but Ohio is not the only problem. Why doesn't someone poll the "usually right wing military voters" that now have children of joining/drafting age. They do not want their kids sent to the disgraceful scenes of Afghanistan or Iraq, so who do you think they voted for? All of these folks that I have contact with say they voted for Kerry. The FIRST time they have ever voted for a Democrat. Start with former Air Force Academy grads in their late 40's and see where it leads!

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snowshoe
Posted by: cottontail on Jun 14, 2005 9:30 AM   
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It's over folks, so eat, drink and be merry. While the mostly brain-dead public worries about same sex marriage and abortion (well orchestrated by Karl Rove) and the fate of Michael Jackson, their civil rights and their very democracy are being hijacked. A people slavishly devoted to celebrityhood and the moronic drivel on television deserves what it gets. As the Congress of the U.S. is a cesspool of incompetence and corruption unparalled in modern history, there'll be no reprieve.

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Wait a Minute
Posted by: oyka1 on Jun 14, 2005 9:32 AM   
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I agree with just about everything in the article, but I have problems with a little detail:

'invaded 2 nations that did us no harm' (paraphrase)

Who was the second? Afghanistan? The Taliban regime did actively help and allowed al Qaeda terrorist camps to operate, terrorists that later attacked us on 9/11.

After 9/11 they refused to trun bin Laden and others over. The strike itself was justified, if not the horrible way the Afghanistan is now treated is.

Iraq was different.

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Gotta LOVE John Conyers!
Posted by: helenwheels on Jun 14, 2005 10:02 AM   
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John Conyers just rocks. He also is behind the Downing Street Memo hearings. Truly a national treasure.

I also love Gore Vidal, who is one of the most important voices of our time. And I was happy to see that he had an opportunity to talk just a bit about this on Bill Maher's show last month.

Bravo, Gore Vidal! You are truly an inspiration. And I am a huge fan.

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AMERIKA! The big lie!
Posted by: apodopa on Jun 14, 2005 10:53 AM   
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Everything about America is a lie. Nothing is for real, there is no truth, just a big branded corporation with a flag that means nothing similar to what it meant before JFK was murdered. We are living in a fantasy if we think we have a "democracy." Voting is an illusion and an excuse for hundreds of millions of dollars to change hands in a form of bribery unseen before in the history of the world. We are not free, there is not a government more than there is a master, we live in an emerging kind of fascist/theocratic/copocratic/military dicatatorship. When it settles to the nature of itself none of us may be alive - but free? Not. We are slaves to a system beholden only to itself, and the limits of our own imagination. Americasn could not take to the streets like the people of other countries have recently to demand their will. We would get murdered by the police state, just as the Chinese were at Tianamen. America the beautiful sung about in folklore and imagined in dreams of people long since gone is dead. All that there is left is waste in our wake of consumerism and selfishness. Fuck the Pentagon - Fuck the Evangelicals - Fuck the Neocons - Fuck Bush and his mafia - fuck the corporations - Fuck republicans and democrats - fuck the FBI, NSA, CIA and whatever else there is - Fuck everything.

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I Saw It All
Posted by: mstenger on Jun 14, 2005 10:58 AM   
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I'm from Ohio and saw firsthand all the crap that went on here. My city's newspaper The Columbus Dispatch didn't cover any of the Conyers hearings or report anything of substance about the vote fraud that happened here. The regressives have a big hold on this state and Ken Blackwell is the worst of the worst. I can only hope that the rare coin scandal that's come to light here now will reach the tops of the regressives' ranks and send them all straight to Hades.

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squirrel
Posted by: squirrel on Jun 14, 2005 11:24 AM   
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Don't lose ALL hope, recently people in China did buck the establishment by forcing the government to close some factories that were poluting their farming area. Some 10,000 Chisese farmers and their families including old women in their 90's blocked accessd to the factories and actually stopped the police from reopening the factories (some police even removed their uniforms and ran away) then the farmers overturned the police vehicles.
They WON this battle. The factories remain closed.
Too bad there aren't enough people in our country willing to buck the system. Less "bitchin'" more activism is needed.

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Undermining Democracy?
Posted by: Mycos on Jun 14, 2005 12:15 PM   
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When the leaders of a democracy have undermined the system to the point that what the people want is ignored, that the very people in office are not the ones whom the people chose, then it's time to take direct action. What else? Democratic approaches have been negated by these people. Who better to suffer the effects of this loss of civility?

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Circumstantial proof of fraud
Posted by: IronNose on Jun 14, 2005 12:17 PM   
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The thing that makes it clear to me that electronic voting machines were tampered with is the fact that all the errors were in Bush's favor. Doesn't that seem strange? All I've read about various dicrepencies (mostly in OH, FL, NM) never mentions any errors in Kerry's favor. If in fact there were legitimate problems with the machines, wouldn't the pattern have been more equal due to the law of probabilites?

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Ashamed to be an American... from Ohio
Posted by: drSooz on Jun 14, 2005 1:58 PM   
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My small rural Ohio city had few voting problems. BUT many of my friends were 'vote watchers' in urban precincts and they were horrified by the long lines, errors, and intimidation tactics. Our very conservative local paper ran the standard 'lettetorials' about whining-loser-Democrats, but I will never believe our election was fair and honest. The only bright spot in the whole election nightmare was in October, when the BushBus was scheduled to come through our town (Wooster) on the way to Akron. Hundreds and hundreds of Dems showed up and lined the streets, with anti-bush signs that pulled no punches. The BushBus was supposed to make a brief stop, but didn't - I hope it was due to all the Kerry supporters. Of special note: after the bus passed through and the crowds had gone home my daughter and I went back to the town square and took pictures of the HUGE MESS... and with the exception of ONE Kerry sign it was ALL bush detritus. Signs, stickers, and garbage littered the square. I took several pictures to verify that it was bush garbage, then my daughter and I went around the square and picked up the trash. Later on that week we brought the photographic evidence and the bag of bush trash to our local Republican headquarters. We offered them the trash, as they were out of bush signs and we had plenty of wet-bush-sign-garbage, and showed them the pictures. My daughter then wrote her own 'lettetorial' to our local paper about the mess and said that "the local bush supporters had done to the town square what bush was doing to the environment." Other than that brief sweet victory I'm convinced that the Ohio election was, if not outright stolen, irreparably damaged and deserving of doubt. I'd love to put a bumper sticker on my vehicle declaring that I'm ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN, but am afraid of the vandalism that would likely follow.

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I'm sorry..
Posted by: evilhobz on Jun 14, 2005 6:49 PM   
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But is this the same Government spreading 'democracy' around the world?

Does anyone know the deinition of ironic as it seems to be missing from this world at the moment...

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Will it take a violent revolution?
Posted by: crz53 on Jun 14, 2005 8:12 PM   
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I should begin by saying that I don't advocate the killing of innocent people, American or otherwise. That being said, sometimes I wonder what measures will have to be taken to bring about social change in this country. I mean real change, not bullshit reforms and hollow promises. How bad will things have to get before people demand that they be allowed to play a direct role in public affairs (as opposed to waiting every couple years for the chance to choose between corporate approved, politically orthodox, socially privilaged white guys)? What will be the breaking point at which workers demand to own the factories in which they work (as opposed to working in an increasingly unpredictable and hostile economic environment in which they are disposable serfs, laboring for for the profit of someone else)? And once we reach those points, how will the political, economic, and social establishment react? I can't say, but I do know this: Those who obtain power and control over others do not readily nor willingly give it up.

The fact of the matter is our "representative government" no longer represents the people of this country. Recent elections and the arrogance of the Bush administration have brought to light the sorry state of American democracy, but rest assured, Bush & Co did not single handedly corrupt an otherwise perfect government. Rather, their rise to power and disasterous reign have been made possible by decades of Democrat and Republican misrule - along with a healthy dose of public apathy. George W Bush is simply a product of that awful legacy; he is the personification of everything that was already wrong with our political/economic system.

So what will happen when the people of America realize that our political and economic problems are systemic, and as such can never be truly "fixed" by any amount of tinkering and adjusting within those systems? Are the majority of the people in this country even capable of recognizing the true nature of our problems? If we do, I think it's a safe bet that the powers that be won't go down without a fight. If it comes to that, I hope to God that I'm there to be a part of it.
- Mike Lorenz

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Read 'Wait A Minute'
Posted by: nakis on Jun 15, 2005 6:21 AM   
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If you skipped 'Wait A Minute' above please go back and read it. Lots of great tidbits on our democracy building.

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America; home of the apathetic
Posted by: Smiggsy on Jun 15, 2005 11:33 AM   
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I am shocked not so much by the political result of the US elections, but the extent to which half of the american population couldn't care less about voting whatsoever in the recent presidential election.

Given the current administration I am not surprised electronic voting systems have been allowed to be used and then somewhat become corrupted. Of course it was planned - the same as how casinos operate to ensure a favourable result in gambling.

Wake up simpletons of the USA - this apathetic behaviour just invites corruption to occur on both sides of the political fence. Computers are so easy to manipulate & blatently open to error. Ballot fixing is almost always guaranteed. Its pathetic that the idea of using such methods have ever been accepted by a so called bastion of democracy.

Election participation should be made compulsory just like a drivers license. Everybody would take an interest & care about the value of their vote. Where I come from (not the US) voting is compulsory & anonymous for all adult citizens or you get fined - like driving a car. If you you don't want to cast a vote, you don't have to, but you still have to turn up at the polling booth to collect your ballot. So most people end up using their ballot to vote anyhow. Donkey voting (not using your vote) is severely ridiculed if you freely admit to it. Normally this returns 96% validated votes by the national adult population ON PAPER using a single national uniform system. How simple is that....

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GeorgeV
Posted by: veronis on Jun 16, 2005 2:08 PM   
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In 2002 when I visited Australia on sabbatical leave, I found myself embarrassed to have to admit that I am an American. I served in the US Navy during WWII and had never imagined that I would feel that the USA was not a country to be proud of but with a fascist president in the White House that pride has vanished. Once again this year I was in Australia and the shame was even stronger because Bush was reelected. And now I learn that once again he stole the election. This time the fraud was so huge that his "win" was large enough to preclude an obvious call for a recount or even a second vote in Ohio. Even the Ukraine had managed to find a way to correct an obvious fraud of about the same magnitude. We pride ourselves as the originators of democracy. That makes us just too proud to admit that aspects of our political system are worse even than that of banana republics. The current arrogance practiced by the Republicans in both houses is just a continuation of the scorn that Bush has introduced in stealing two elections. When are we going to wake up and start dealing with the growing fascist practices in this country?

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Black Box Voting-Bev Harris' chapter 8
Posted by: linmin on Jun 20, 2005 6:17 AM   
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To understand the election, it is essential to analyze chapter 8 of Bev Harris' book. It reveals the history of the scheme to take control of elections through the financing operations of the right-wing cult "Christian Reconstructionist" faction of Rousas Rushdoony and his son-in-law Gary North, through their minion Howard Ahmanson, Jr., who according to Bev Harris "has parlayed his fortune [acquired through the savings-and-loan scams of the 1980's] into extremist right-wing politics, pushing the agenda of the Christian Reconstructionist movement, which openly advocates a theocratic takeover of American democracy." (page 74)
This also connects directly to Omaha-based Peter Kiewit Foundation and corporation, the Omaha World-Herald, and Union Pacific Railroad and its subsidiary Union Pacific Resources. These are branches of the Harriman family's financial investments controlled by Brown Brothers Harriman investment bank. Both Dick and Lynne Cheney were hirelings of that network through their employment by the boards of Union Pacific Resources and Halliburton (which bought out the debts of Dresser Industries--owned by Brown Brothers Harriman).

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