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Having Fun With Intelligent Design

By David Morris, AlterNet. Posted May 23, 2005.


Science teachers can teach intelligent design as an alternative to evolution -- and teach meddling school board members a lesson at the same time.

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I have just three words for biology teachers who are wringing their hands as school boards from Kansas to Pennsylvania force them to teach intelligent design as an alternative to evolution: Get over it.

Here's what I think. Science teachers can comply with the requirement and still offer their students a first-rate education. If done with imagination, the new curriculum could end up stimulating more learning and excitement than their traditional explication of Darwinian theory.

I wouldn't have made this argument 20 years ago. At that time, school boards' interventions were far more restrictive. Science teachers were obliged to inform their students that the story of Genesis was literally true. But in 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court put a stop to that by declaring the teaching of creationism in the classroom a violation of the Constitutional insistence on the separation of church and state.

The Court decision spawned a more nuanced and sophisticated approach by anti-evolutionists: intelligent design. Intelligent design is not creationism per se. It holds that higher forms of life are so complex they must have been created by an unspecified higher power. The key word here is "unspecified." Many school board members who support an intelligent design mandate believe that higher power is Jesus. But they aren't forcing anyone to teach that in schools.

What they do require is that teachers offer a critique of evolution and suggest alternative theories about the origins of life. How might a good science teacher comply with these new directives without compromising their principles or their dignity? Or to put it slightly more aggressively, how might a biology teacher educate his or her students while at the same time teach meddling school board members a lesson?

All teachers know that their first and hardest job is to gain the student's attention and interest. What subject best attracts a teenager's undivided attention? Sex. Happily, when it comes to evolution, sex is central.

I recommend that biology teachers begin by discussing Elisabeth A. Lloyd's decidedly scientific book, The Case of the Female Orgasm. No school board member should complain. The book's subtitle, "Bias in the Science of Evolution," clearly fits with the new requirement that teachers critique evolutionary theory.

Darwinians can explain the male orgasm. After all, the male ejaculation is necessary for the survival and perpetuation of the species, and if giving the male great pleasure while doing so promotes that, then natural selection would eventually endow the male orgasm with that characteristic.

When it comes to the human female orgasm, however, evolutionists are stumped. No other female of the animal kingdom experiences an orgasm. Professor Lloyd examines 21 evolution-based explanations for the female orgasm, and demolishes every one of them.

Here the biology teacher might offer the class the alternative explanation of intelligent design. Is the intelligent power simply leveling the playing field between the sexes? Or is Professor Lloyd right that the female orgasm is "just for fun," and the intelligent power is female?

Then there's the question of male homosexuality. From a Darwinian perspective, it's a puzzle. The theory of natural selection should guarantee the disappearance of males that don't reproduce. But they keep hanging around, in considerable numbers, in every culture and every era.

Evolutionists have their theories. Psychologist Louis A. Berman argues that it has to do with embryonic development. Medical doctor Lorne Warneke suggests that homosexuality actually offers a natural advantage. Homosexuals instill a more cooperative impulse that helps perpetuate the kinship group and tribe.

A good science teacher will follow the school board's guidance and propose intelligent design as an alternative explanation for male homosexuality. Could there be an intelligent power that has created and nurtured male homosexuality? Does that mean God is gay?

School boards require science teachers to offer alternative explanations about how life began. That presents still another opportunity for creative educators.

Evolutionists argue that life evolved over tens of millions of years via natural selection. Intelligent design advocates believe the creation of life was overseen and guided by an intelligent power.


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David Morris is co-founder and vice president of the Institute for Local Self Reliance in Minneapolis, Minnnesota and director of its New Rules project.

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the premise of Intelligent design
Posted by: guychick on May 23, 2005 12:14 AM   
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If you boiled the crypto-Christian Intelligent Design concept to its essence, isn't the idea basically, "Wow"?

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Scientific comparison of competing theories
Posted by: dennyduke@earthlink.net on May 23, 2005 12:39 AM   
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Lots of good ideas here.

I've been thinking about this for awhile: Why not start “Intro to Science” with a basic definition of what a scientific theory is, and as an exercise, the class examines two theories of “How We Got Here” or some neutral title. Then simply state each theory, validate it as a theorem. Then see how each explains the evidence.

Bring in issues like provability criteria, problems with proving a negative – maybe even bring in how this relates not only to the absurdity of “Prove God Don’t Exist” as well as the problem with presumption of guilt, where you’re required to prove a negative – I didn’t do that. (The underlying social and moral issues).

Give them exactly what they claim to be asking for: teach creationism alongside evolution, but as a comparative analysis, something a lot of these ninnies probably don't even have a clue about which is real basic science, just like the double-blind experiment. Go for the throat - teach science and teach these gangsters a lesson.

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Christian creator?
Posted by: sapatatanka on May 23, 2005 1:18 AM   
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I love this article, but ...

the guy with the six-day creation job cannot possibly have been a christian god. Check out the chronology.

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» RE: Christian creator? Posted by: Bubba
More on creationism controversy
Posted by: dearkitty on May 23, 2005 3:00 AM   
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More on creationism controversy, including censorship of science films: see here.

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Science is the backbone of intelligent government.
Posted by: PeterPeter on May 23, 2005 5:48 AM   
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As a Biologist who has also taken Geology courses, my comment is that you are going to wind up with an awful lot of very confused teenagers, with no real understanding of the scientific method, or the preposterousness of the ideas the "clever" teacher has presented in his/her efforts to confound the school board.

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In Theory a Good Idea
Posted by: nosylae on May 23, 2005 6:08 AM   
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I'm all for sticking it to school boards (who are elected in most cases) but suggesting that teachers actually raise some toughtful, philosophical discussions or lessons in the classroom is not going to work in reality. As soon as the board found out what s/he is doing, they would be suspended or fired so fast it would make the "Designer's" head spin. It's all politics and there is no room for original thought in school anymore.

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Stealth Creationism
Posted by: rickcreswell@yahoo.com on May 23, 2005 6:26 AM   
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Christian teachers have been hoding forth a stealth creationist agenda for many years in public shcools and even colleges and universities. As a result, evolutionary is poorly understood by most.
The Moody science film about trees states that guttation is reponsible for getting water from roots to leaves, ignoring the decades-old research on evapotranspiration. I think they like "facts" that stay the same wether true or not.

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You said a mouthful
Posted by: 42Years on May 23, 2005 6:36 AM   
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Nice tongue-in-cheek article.

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Flat Earth
Posted by: silkreed on May 23, 2005 6:35 AM   
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Agree wholeheartedly. Have students read The Flat Earth Society's homepage and then see (though this might be cruel!) if anyone fails to see this as a very sophisticated joke... The analogy is crystal clear, and you are only teaching critical thinking :-)
For a wonderful sociopolitical commentary see the article by Albert A. Bartlett, 1996, "The New Flat Earth Society."

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» RE: Flat Earth Posted by: Rod in 83706
intelligent design
Posted by: doctordave on May 23, 2005 6:42 AM   
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I enjoyed this article and whole-heartedly endorse the approach. Human learning should be fun - it is important that we, as teachers, help education survive and develop by understanding the adaptive significance of not only what we are teaching but the way in which we are teaching it. We should be teaching students to ask good questions - and modeling is an excellent way to do this.

Here are a couple of questions that help me think about the issue of intelligent design. Why don't we (humans or other animals) have wheels? The wheel does not seem to be a concept beyond the comprehension of most human designers who might claim to be intleligent. Wheels are great energy savers and would seem to have been well suited for at least some earth's various terrains.

Many cognitive scientists suggest that the mind is what the brain does. It would seem that any consideration of intelligent design would beg us to consider carefully the designer's brain. There is ample evidence that the human mind has numerous inadequacies (demonstrated by optical illusions, its susceptibility to numerous logical inconsistencies, and its great difficulty with abstraction). Does the mind that designed our brains (presumably "in its image") have these same flaws? If not, what was the point of afflicting us with these inadequacies? If it does have the same inadequacies, is it also plagued by prejudice, stereotyping, greed, etc?

This sounds like a great way to engage a class. Cheers!

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Mr.
Posted by: gramps on May 23, 2005 7:13 AM   
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America has always been famous for bull-shit, but the lies and misinformation being given the public today has most of the intelligent world laughing at us.
Christ said that the Kingdom of God was like a farmer sowing seeds, some fall on stones, some are blown away by the wind, and some are eaten by birds; but those that fall on good soil will grow.
This is as good an explanation of natural selection as one could ask for.
Humans create with their hands and tend to think manually.
Their God's are anthropomorphic. They can not imagine a God without the need of hands that has eternity to create in.
Nor do they recognize themselves as creations of God that can build computers and even fabricate from the gene technology, and travel in outer space.
Why should we compromise with ignorance and stupidity in our schools?

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Minor Correction
Posted by: Fang-Face Dreamweaver on May 23, 2005 7:39 AM   
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The idea that female animals do not have orgasms is not true of all species. For my money, it's a safe bet that if the females of a species are equipped with a clitoris, those females can have orgasm. For some real (i.e., scientific) information about sexuality (particularly homosexuality) in animals try:

Biological Exuberance
Bruce Bagemihl, PhD -1999
0-213-19239-8
591.562 B144

In correction to your particular statement I offer these two quotations:

There is a long and sordid history of statement of human uniqueness. Over the years, I have read that humans are the only creatures that laugh, that kill other members of their own species, that lie, that exhibit female orgasm, or that kill their own young. Every one of these never-never-land statements is now known to be false. To this list must now be added the statement that humans are the only species that exhibit "true" homosexuality. Does anyone ever state that we alone exhibit true heterosexuality?
--James Weinrich, biologist, quoted in Biological Exuberance, pg 45-46

As we have seen, one way that zoologist have tried to avoid classifying same-sex activity as "homosexuality" is by using terminology and behavioral categories that deny it is sexual activity at all. This approach also extends to the intrpretations, explanations, and "functions" attributed to same-sex behavior, even when it involves the most overt and explicit of activities. Astounding as it sounds, a number of scientists have actually argued that when a femal Bonobo wraps her legs around another
female, rubbing her own clitoris against her partner's while emitting screams of enjoyment, this is actually "greeting" behavior, or "tension-regulation" behavior, or "social-bonding", or "food-exchange" behavior -- almost anything, it seems, besides pleasurable sexual behavior.
--Bruce Bagemihl, Biological Exuberance, pg 106

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» RE: Minor Correction Posted by: Violetflame11
What a wonderfully passive-aggressive solution.
Posted by: owlbear1 on May 23, 2005 7:53 AM   
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How about simply teaching "Intelligent Design" like any other Science course?

It has only ONE theorem (sort of) , NO reproducible experiments, and demands that several other branches of science MUST be completely ignored(Geology, Physics, Anthropology, Paleontology) in order for it to work.

The course should take about an hour to complete since students will have NOTHING to study.

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Beyond the Humor, Some Serious Points
Posted by: thirdmg on May 23, 2005 8:29 AM   
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If facts and reason can't embarass creationists, maybe humor and ridicule, as espoused in the article, can.

But a few serious points:

1. Homosexual behavior is common throughout the animal kingdom, not just in humans. Remember the recent news stories about the gay penguins in the German zoo? Obviously, such behavior can't be detrimental to the general survival of a species or it would be quickly weeded out. It might even play a clear survival purpose, such as population control. And, since we humans are destroying the environment primarily through over-population, wouldn't support for gays rights and gay marriage be good survival and environmental policy?

2. While theology may be defined as a body of conjecture (meaning that it's anyone's guess), the physical sciences are usually defined as bodies of knowledge. The reasons for the difference are based on testability and feedback. In science, theories are more or less believable based on either corroborating or contradicting data. Theology and other forms of human knowledge lack testability. That's why we turn to science and not theology for creating technologies to improve our living conditions. And, by the way, evidence for evolution as fact is increasingly confirmed within several fields of scientific investigation.

3. Christian fundamentalist creationists in America generally deny and blind themselves to the fact that belief in Darwinian evolution does not require atheistic belief. They ignore the fact that millions of religionists believe in evolution. They even ignore the fact that Darwin himself was not an atheist. The reason for ignoring these facts is that they have no means of bridging the contradiction between a literal interpretation of the Bible's special creation of plants, animals and humans, as described in Genesis, and the evolutionary concept of the development of species over long periods of time. Creationists in America try to force data to fit their beliefs rather than adjusting their beliefs to fit the data. That's a form of intellectual dishonesty, and its the major reason why the debate continues decade after decade, but only in America.

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I suggest adding Bible as a History Elective
Posted by: becky141 on May 23, 2005 8:54 AM   
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In my High School, in the 60's, Old Testament Bible and New Testament Bible were taught as History electives by Presbyterian Ministers. Those courses prepared me well when I joined my husband's Baptist Church.

I laughed at the doctrine of "inerrancy", the belief that there are no errors in the Bible. Anybody who knows the history of the Bible knows that it is full of errors. Pure, provable fact. A simple disection of Genesis reveals two creation stories that contradict each other. As for the "literal truth", this is a history of a bunch of Arab Jews (no disrespect intended) over a 5,000 year period. When you study the Bible as History, you aren't inclined to worship lifted phrases as particularly instructive for everyday life.

Maybe that's the only way to beat this gang of religious theocrats at their own game. The danger is that the courses are taken over by indoctrinated Fundamentalists who do not allow critical thinking. A PH.D. Minister, the School Guidance Counselor, who wrote a book declaring that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, took over the Bible Classes when my son took them. For a free thinker, it was a disastrous experience.

That's the danger of letting Intelligent Design slip through the cracks as Science. You'll get a few creative teachers, and quite a few "party line" fundamentalists who will botch it. Our Youth will suffer. Better to stop these thugs ahead of time, and insist that sanity prevail. It is critical to understand that True Believers have one very narrow, very limited concept of "truth" and no amount of facts can change their minds.

Remember, the leaders of the Religious Right movement came from the ranks of rabid anti-communitist John Birchers. Religion is the "enforcer" of the white male patriarchy as the divine rule of the masses. The money of the Scaifes and Ahmanson's paid for the intense infiltration of every religious denomination in America. (Google Institute for Religion and Democracy for more info.)

Ahmanson money set up ES&S, the partner in crime with Diebold Voting Machines. These people stop at NOTHING to protect their turf.

Remember the story of David and Goliath? A few stones can find their mark and change the course of history. Sanity MUST prevail. Enslavement as a Theocratic Dictatorship or a free Republic? Our children's future is in our hands.

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» No Errors in the Bible? Posted by: thirdmg
Lets remember, the theory of evolution is only a theory.
Posted by: cobrajet on May 23, 2005 9:01 AM   
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There is no evidence that evolution has ever occured. A organism is created for the optimized state of its being, with the minimal amount functional parts to carry out the purpose, which is to sustain life, and procreate. There is no way a human could evolve from a lower life form. For one thing a human is a mind, body and spirit. A spirit is created from God. So if you want to call it intelligent design, that is accurate. Man was created , with a purpose, by an intelligent creator. Read the book, " A Ready Defense" by Josh McDowell. HE once set out to prove the Bible was irrelvant and not accurate, and in the process he failed to prove that, and in the end believed that the bible is relevant and accurate and prophetic, unlike any other book in history.

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What's the fight over
Posted by: Greek Shadow on May 23, 2005 9:32 AM   
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In biology class there are around thirty six chapters, one for each week of the school year. This whole shitfit is over only 1 of those thirty six chapters. It is an essential part of understanding the rest, but 90% of the students will have nothing further to do with biology or science the rest of their lives. Actually Geometry teaches the concept of "burden of proof" for juries better than science. As for trying to get higher level critical thinking skill across to high school students. Good luck. First let's get their head clear of illegal drugs and alcohol, then get their heads off the desks, then get them to take the earphones out of their ears, then get them to turn off the textmessaging cell phones, then get them to realize that someone in this universe exists besides them, then get them to realize that there is a future in front of them longer than the next fifteen minutes. Finally, what good does it do the have them educated in the best science if the President can keep them from practising it with the stroke of a pen. Korea has already shown us that when it comes to pure science we are now a second rate power.

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Have fun with evolution and creationist theories
Posted by: Michaelmammal on May 23, 2005 9:34 AM   
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The "creator" in creationism must be unspecified in order to avoid promoting one religion above others. But discussion might be fun and rewarding for kids who enjoy being smart-asses. They can talk about the Goddess, or Zeus, or aliens seeding the earth with hybrid DNA. They can talk about pan-dimensional machines creating people as part of a simulation. Jahweh would NOT be the only deity mentioned. The teacher can remain smirkingly neutral, and remind everyone that each theory, including creationism, is only a theory and not something to fight about.

What a lesson for the religious right. Stimulate religious discussion, and you end up with a multicultural orgy of deities, and possibly a more enlivened classroom atmosphere.

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Not just a theory
Posted by: recj50 on May 23, 2005 9:36 AM   
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A theory in science is nothing to take lightly. There is a progression from assumption, to postulate, to hypothese, to theory. Unlike so many other explanations it has outlived all scientific inquirees. It is based on a great deal of experimentation and research. It has yet to be proven wrong by any experiment to date. It is in the catagory of Newton's theory of gravity, Eistein's theory of Relativity and many more. The bible on the other hand is just a book full of stories some of which stretch the the realm of reality. A number of the stories in the first testiment may have been taken from other religions even older than the judeo/christian beliefs.

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» RE: Not just a theory Posted by: Gulliver
Let's beat them at their own game!
Posted by: Andros on May 23, 2005 9:40 AM   
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This an excellent approach! If evolution has gaps in knowledge and doesn't explain everything... then ID should be a fair game for anyone to suggest whatever. Some people need the absolute to feel good even if it doesn't make sense or cannot be supported by evidence. A god as creator makes those people feel good because there is an omnipotent force that can "take care of them". They're afraid of life and of death.
I prefer the Hellenistic religion, you know, the one that brought the gods down to earth and stripped them of their clothes. I also like the extraterrestrial astonauts who started things on Earth. It's superior to the Bible version of events (things out of order in Genesis).
Of course, I don't expect the ID proponents to accept anything other than the Christian God's designs.... But, it's fun to confuse them with questions like, Is God Gay? and, Is God a Female?....

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Little Green Men
Posted by: recj50 on May 23, 2005 9:48 AM   
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I think the idea of presenting the designers as little green men would be great. It leads into the possibility of life in the universe, which is a frequent topic with the exploration of Mars. The teacher could talk about the possibility of life in the solar system on Mars and Europa. Recent discovery of planets orbiting other stars would be a lead into life elsewhere in our own galaxy. Teachers could talk about what life may look like on other worlds in the context of evolution. There is a Discovery show that does just that. It would also lead into the idea that species more advance than ourselves may have arrived on earth millions of years ago. They may have tinkered with the evolutionary process to move things along. What better designers than those with a vastly greater scientific knowledge then ourselves. Humans are on the verg of doing just that on a smaller scale.

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Reg
Posted by: Reg on May 23, 2005 9:51 AM   
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God told me that He is a poet. He enjoys communicating with examples, metaphors, figures of speech. He said that He never informed anyone that he created the world about 6000 years ago, and as people (usually men) have regularly done, they put words in His "mouth". He was upset because people are so narrow minded that they would take the idea of a day of creation as if it were man's 24 hour day. God informed me that he used evolution as a tool in creating the world and the living things in the world.

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The whole problem is...
Posted by: kidsis on May 23, 2005 11:25 AM   
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...That nothing will ever be able to be proved 100% either way until someone figures out how to time travel.

I mean, seriously, everything is just a theiroy until it can be absolutely proved. Science can never 100% prove evolution until it has something other than a few rocks and old bones, like a video shot by a time traveler. Creationists can never 100% prove that God created this planet in six 24hr days until the end of the world where everyone with know everything.

I agree that critical thinking is important to teach students, but you have to start eariler than High School in order for them to get it. Try Kindergarten so that they can learn something really valuable in addition to learning to skip and tie their shoes (that was my actual kindergarten curriculum).

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Desperate cry of a dying faith
Posted by: Sojourner on May 23, 2005 12:35 PM   
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I expect that the result of the hullabaloo will be more students in the Earth sciences. The local school boards cannot tell the colleges what to teach. Drawing attention to the evolution of human bodies might finally get us to pay attention to the fact that we are our bodies.

If argument is always the best test for truth, then we got a test to pass. It is not fun or interesting to argue with a closed mind, but even that's better than watching television.

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Goddess
Posted by: mstenger on May 23, 2005 1:12 PM   
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Since some of our wonderful lawmakers are wanting creation "theories" like (un)intelligent design taught in public schools, I want mine included too! Here's what the Goddess told me: The lovely mother was bored one day and decided to create the earth. She parted her mighty loins and out it dropped. When she saw the bloody mess she had created she proclaimed, "You're all on your own!"

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» RE: Goddess Posted by: Chappie
Female Animals Don't Have Orgasm?
Posted by: Chappie on May 23, 2005 1:35 PM   
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I've watched my female cat after mating, and also seen female lions and tigers (on Nova or similar programs) rolling back and forth afterwards for some time. It certainly looks like great pleasure!
If that's not orgasm, what is it?

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Evolution as intelligent design
Posted by: dstorey on May 23, 2005 1:47 PM   
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Seems to me that evolution itself is a pretty intelligent design.

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Science and the anti science "Evolutionism"
Posted by: Donkeykong on May 23, 2005 2:27 PM   
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In the beginning there was Chaos, every man believed that his theory was correct and should be the accepted dogma......Then out of the wilderness a method was developed, a way to decide who should set the dogma by which all others must submit...

That method, the scientific method is simple, s/he who can predict the future is more likely to be right than s/he who cannot. The prediction must be in writing and presented to others BEFORE the test is done AND the test is to be performed by SOMEONE ELSE and the test must clearly be a test that can be FALSIFIED if the theory is incorrect.

Then came Darwin. He made a theory regarding the past which can only be tested by discovering new fossil evidence or examining existing DNA evidence etc. His theory made "predictions" but only in a time scale that was inconsistent with other living scientists testing in the future.

But Darwin's theory was attractive, it lead to a general interest in biology then genetics etc. Some people called Darwin's theory the cornerstone of modern biology. Others called it a scientific fact. But no one could reproduce it. No one could test the basic tenants, that life came from non-life and that life evolved from a common ancestor. The life from non-life tenant is only obvious when you examine other causes of life and their likely subsequent involvement in the diversity of life relative to evolution. The life from common ancestor via fossil evidence is an inkblot test which can be interpreted as a picture with parts missing or as a different picture with parts missing or just as a big ole ink blot.

So in present time we have a choice. Do you believe in science or evolutionism? Should a theory be tested such that it is possible to fail the test if false? An example of a falsifiable test would be to assert that the mutation rate of evolution would have to remain defined over time as X mutations per generation with Y generations in Z time for a total XY mutations occurring in the Z time available. I point to the reader’s ignorance as to the values of X and Y as indirect proof that these numbers are not defined because "evolutionists" don't know or more accurately keep changing their numbers because they are proved wrong.

When "evolutionists" tell you that they are sure they are right but that they are not quit sure what it is that they are right about ask yourself.....is this science?

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The Case of the Female Orgasm
Posted by: Chiron on May 23, 2005 4:07 PM   
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This is kind of a side-bar to the main issue, but other posts have mentioned it also. I haven't read the above book & I don't know anything about Elisebeth A. Lloyd or her credentials, but I can't imagine anyone who knows anything about animal behavior stating that no non-human female member of the animal kingdom has orgasms. I can state without a duobt that female parrots have orgasms. For almost twenty years, I was a breeder of Amazon parrots. It is well known among parrot breeders that female parrots experience orgasm - in fact it's a topic of much discussion because of the comical noises they make, & the fact that some females simply wont allow the male to quit until she's ready. Any misinformation that separates the human species farther from other sentient living creatures adds fuel to the fire of religious belief masqurading as scientific fact/theory. This kind of misinformation also promotes attitudes that divorce us from the perception that members of the animal kingdom are intelligent creatures with feelings, emotions & social structures, & that we have a moral obligation to treat them accordingly - with humanity & compassion. Now that's something that I would love to see incorporated into science classes - that the true measure of the evolved human being is not belief or lack of belief in some specific religious dogma, but something that can be seen in how we treat our fellow living creatures, both human & non-human.

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What's the big deal
Posted by: froggeymonkey on May 23, 2005 4:50 PM   
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Everyone is having such a fit over what the schools are teaching. Parents have the opportunity to opt out if they do not want Darwinism taught to their children. They need to take time to explain to their children about Intelligent Design as well and not leave it up to the school board if they find either theory so objectionable. Home schooling is looking better and better!

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Wait, what century is this?
Posted by: tdicks on May 23, 2005 5:44 PM   
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I can’t believe we are having this discussion in this day and age. ID is nothing more than ancient theology being masked as a current theory. While scientists are splitting atoms and sweating over Petri dishes and microscopes, religious fundamentalists are ranting and raving in their churches and taking peoples money at the end. If anyone is worshiping ‘gods’ world with complete faith in its real bounty and beauty, it is science and every mind that sought its progression on to our time.

To move backward now would be taking away our greatest minds and leaving us with a burden only they could have prevented or fulfilled if only they weren’t mislead, under funded, quieted, blacklisted, suppressed, crucified, and on and on. We have serious problems in our world that need serious and enlightened minds to resolve. Priests are fine in the church, religion is fine in the home, but in the rest of the world where everyone has to live together, science and reason are better to guide us.

Besides, children are vulnerable enough; to instill a prejudice of such conviction at such an early age could only have serious psychological side effects. Evolution is earth, reason, and fact based; I see it as the only method of teaching that cannot and will not divide us on theological lines. (Public Schools)

But hey, some people think it’s necessary to have division, and that’s their right.

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Toward a secular Postdarwinism
Posted by: nemonemini on May 23, 2005 5:51 PM   
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I wouldn't think intelligent design in the class room could ever be much fun. But then again dogma works both ways. I know from my own experience that my education didn't start til I graduated from college. FINALLY, after a few years of mental self-repair, my education actually began. These poor kids in school are preyed on by rival 'creepy' religious types, Christian or Darwinist. Their ability to learn can't be allowed to survive.
This disastrous situation should be blamed on Darwin fanatics, not Creationists. Noone forced Darwinists to suppress the problems in the theory, or forbade them from simply saying they didn't yet have a theory of evolution. Honesty would have disarmed fundamentalists at the first step.
The obstensible objective in the ID promo is to introduce balance in the class room. Very well, a friend of mine is Buddhist, why not bring in Buddhist views on evolution (?!).

Why couldn't Darwinists have done the job of self-critique right fifty years ago plus at the founding of the Synthesis (another hype machine job not unlike the ID movement) and trained a generation of competent biologists also competent to critique their own theory.
The ridiculous presumption in these discussions is we have to toe the line on Darwinism to be secular straights. The in crowd has to be either misinformed 'stupid smart' in the geek mode, or simply mendacious in public about baloney.
Why not simply acknowledge that the Darwin paradigm on natural selection is inadequate and get on with it. It won't be the end of the world. We didn't have to have this pointed out by the Bible Belt. Is it so much more difficult than rocket science to do the simple thing?

It is insulting to be force fed this Darwin propaganda as an antidote to the ID challenge. Everyone in the media is too intimidated by the party line to do any actual thinking, and organizations like NCSE act like an ideological mind control org.
It is possible to thumb one's nose at ID, toss Darwin's theory out the window, and survive the gesture. The result is a moment of clarity in the ocean of verbiage on both sides of the so-called debate.
John Landon
http://eonix.8m.com/etc/darw1.htm

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biology teacher
Posted by: taub on May 23, 2005 7:37 PM   
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I don't think the author has taught high school students. Believe me, this approach will not work with the average teenager. They will be even more confused. Additionally, you are getting into some really sticky stuff by showing the problems with the religious explanations which really is outside the realm of what you should be doing in a science classroom.

As someone who teaches evolution, I will say that there has been a change, with more vocal fundamentalist students than previously. However, I make it clear that I teach science, not religion, and will only discuss scientific explanations for natural phenomena. Intelligent design is a religious idea, not a scientific one and thus has no place in a science classroom. Evolution is a fundamental unifying principle in biology. Without it, you really can't account for such current problems as multi-drug resistant microbes.

I suggest the author try to teach some high school students for a few weeks, and I think his ideas will change.

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HUH?
Posted by: Michiganman on May 23, 2005 7:53 PM   
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The author should have named this article, How to smile while eating a CRAP sandwich!

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Just Asking
Posted by: justasking on May 23, 2005 8:28 PM   
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Am I the only one disturbed by the apparent undemocratic tone and comments of the writer? The "meddling school board" consists of elected officials who are representing the wishes of those who elected them. I live in the same county (different school district) where the Dover PA school board has mandated that intelligent design gets mentioned.
Did you know that we recently had a primary election where all the "meddling" school board members that backed this measure have been voted back in. We'll find out in November what the people of Dover want for their kids.
It seems to me that the only people meddling in this are all the folks whose kids don't attend this school district trying to force their views on the local community.

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Good ideas
Posted by: warbi on May 23, 2005 11:14 PM   
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Those are some great ideas as alternatives to what the Fundies want done. I do have a couple of comments on the book about the female orgasm. First of all, IIRC, the big cat females also have orgasms. Secondly, Desmond Morris's excellent series on human sexuality actually offered an explanation for female orgasms. Using innovative camera work, it was shown that during a female's orgasm, the cervix actually dips down toward the pelvic floor. This in turn brings the cervix in contact with the pool of semen (depending on position, of course!). There was also research done that showed that a woman who has an orgasm *after* her male partner increased her chances of impregnation. I can't remember the exact percentage change between those who had an orgasm afterward as opposed to those who either had no orgasm or one before her partner had ejaculated. While this doesn't detract from the above article, it might be a good idea to not use the otehr book as it seems somewhat fallacious.

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actually
Posted by: fmiller on May 24, 2005 1:13 AM   
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if I were a HS Bio teacher I'd say that evolution explains HOW organisms came to be the way they are, but it doesn't explain WHY, however the why is beyond the scope of HS Biology, you can discuss that in Philosophy class or at Church if you want

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LET'S TEACH THEIR HOCUS-POCUS
Posted by: LMNOP on May 24, 2005 4:49 AM   
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Shouldn’t everybody know both the scientific theory of evolution and the metaphysical speculation erroneously called creation science just to be informed about what the debate entails. Schools should present both cases without necessarily advocating for either, merely saying that this is what secularists believe and that is what is taught in churches. If both systems were described in their entirety over the course of a school year, five minutes could be allotted to creationist phylogeny by reading that part of Genesis 1 that outlines what is known about this proposed method of speciation (then He made the fishes, then the beasts, then man, then he was too tired and rested…done!) and five minutes to present the evidence for creationism and take a 4-1/2 minute break. The prosecution rests.

Then, after ten minutes into day one, we switch over to scientific theory. The rest of the school year would be needed to describing what the theory of evolution by natural selection entails, and to present a SMALL FRACTION of the evidence for it. Let the children decide for themselves. That sounds fair and balanced to me.

Then, to further showcase the relative validity of the two methods of scholarship, i.e., the scientific method and received 'wisdom', we can compare the fruits of science (medicine, agricultural technology, space travel, electricity, etc.) and dogma (holy wars, witch burnings, Klan lynchings, 9-11, the Spanish Inquisition, etc.).

We report, you decide. What do you think?

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Too much faith in teachers
Posted by: Gulliver on May 24, 2005 9:15 AM   
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First of all, I mean no disrespect to the profession of teaching or to the commitment of the thousands of dedicated, intelligent teachers laboring in the fields of our impressionable youth.

That disclaimer aside, the all too common idea from pro-evolution commentators that our teachers can continue to thwart the intentions of the fundies by teaching real science and exposing the delusions and fallacies of the creationists and their ilk is simply naive. (And may I just say that this article is either tongue in cheek—a crucial point lost on many of these commenters, I shudder to note—or else its author clearly could use some good education himself. Van Daniken? You must be joking!) There are thousands of teachers of science classes in America's schools who are as ignorant of the scientific method as most of their students, who couldn't tell the difference between a theory and a fantasy if it hit them upside the head. And a hell of a lot of them are fundies themselves who'll jump at the chance to brainwash the kiddies and condemn that nasty heretic Darwin as the Satan's spawn that he was.
That's why creationism infiltrating the classroom is more serious than the bad joke that it seems. Rigorous standards are necessary in science curricula especially to prevent, as much as is possible, those teachers who are themselves ignorant of science from perpetuating their ignorance by passing it on to our children. Science teachers who actually understand science will probably deal with the ID controversy a bit anyhow if only to illustrate the concepts of scientific rationalism. They don't need some troglodyte school board demanding that they teac