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Dumb Dems Let GOP Run Wild

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted April 28, 2005.


The unholy combination of theocracy and plutocracy that now rules this country is, in fact, enabled by dumb liberals.

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Being of the populist persuasion, I am a terminal fan of Thomas Frank, who has gone from "What's the Matter With Kansas?" to "What's the Matter With Liberals?" in the current issue of the New York Review of Books, which is a good spot for it.

Those of us in the beer-drinking, pick-up-truck-driving, country-music-listening school of liberals in the hinterlands particularly appreciate his keen dissection of how the Republicans use class resentment against "elitist liberals," while waging class warfare on people who work for a living.

The unholy combination of theocracy and plutocracy that now rules this country is, in fact, enabled by dumb liberals. Many a weary liberal on the Internet and elsewhere has been involved in the tedious study of the entrails from the last election, trying to figure out where Democrats went wrong. I don't have a dog in that fight, but I can guarantee you where they're going wrong for the next election: 73 Democratic House members and 18 Democratic senators voted for that hideous bankruptcy "reform" bill that absolutely screws regular people.

And it's not just consumers who were screwed by the lobbyist-written bill. The Wall Street Journal shows small businesses are also getting the shaft, as the finance industry charges them higher and higher transaction fees. If Democrats aren't going to stand up for regular people, to hell with them.

Now here's some populist lagniappe (that's a word us populists often use) for you to chew on.

The Economic Policy Institute reports the economic well-being of middle-class families has declined between 2000 and 2003 for three reasons: the generally lousy economy, the Bush tax policies and the cost of health care.

Pre-tax incomes for middle-class families of every type (children, young singles, seniors, single mothers) are down, leaving the typical household with $1,535 less income in 2003 than in 2000, a drop of 3.4 percent.

After taking into account changes in both pre-tax incomes and taxes, the finding remains that most middle-class families lost ground between 2000 and 2003. This is true for married couples with children, elderly couples and young singles, although single mothers did gain 1.9 percent because of the greater refundability of child tax credits.

Family spending on higher insurance co-pays, deductibles and premiums escalated, rising three times faster than income for those married with children, absorbing half the growth of their income.

The Tax Justice Network recently reported the world's richest individuals have placed $11.5 trillion in assets in offshore tax havens to avoid paying taxes, a sum 10 times the GDP of Great Britain. The most authoritative study yet done shows that rich people clip $860 billion in coupons a year off this money.

"Governments appear unable, or unwilling, to prevent the rich employing aggressive strategies to minimize their tax liabilities," said the Observer of Britain. We can emphasize the "unwilling" with this administration.

The ratio of CEO pay to average worker pay reached 301-to-one in 2003. The average worker takes home $517 a week, while the average CEO earns $155,796, according to BusinessWeek. In 1982, the ratio was 42-to-one.

Dialogue between President Bush and a citizen during a February meeting in Nebraska, where Bush was trying to sell his scheme to privatize Social Security:

Woman: "That's good, because I work three jobs and I feel like I contribute."

Bush: "You work three jobs?"

Woman: "Three jobs, yes."

Bush: "Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that. (Applause.) Get any sleep? (Laughter.)"

One out of every two jobs created in the United States over the past 12 months was taken by a worker over 55. Economist Dean Baker says the flood of older workers is caused by the falling value of retirees' 401(k)s and the cost of health care.

The number of long-term unemployed who are college graduates has nearly tripled since 2000. Nearly one in five of the long-term jobless are college graduates, according to the Los Angeles Times.

The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities has a brand-new study out showing the uneven division of the fruits of the supposed economic recovery:

"The data show that the share of real income growth that has gone to wages and salaries has been smaller than during any other comparable post-World War II recovery period, while the share of real income growth that has gone to corporate profits has been larger than during all other comparable post-World War II recoveries."

In previous recoveries, workers got an average of 49 percent of the national income gains, while corporate profits got 18 percent. This time, the workers are getting 23 percent and the corporations are getting 44 percent -- about one half as much as the share that has gone to corporate profits.

None of that apply to you? Good. Go listen to Tom DeLay give another lecture on moral values.

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Molly Ivins is a best-selling author and columnist who writes about politics, Texas and other bizarre happenings.

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Posted by: GeneK on Apr 28, 2005 1:00 PM   
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It was the Dumb Dems and their Dumb policies, and Dumb candidates, and Dumb elitist Hollywood supporters that help GWB get elected.

When the American public realized that the Dem policies would worsen all aspect of their life they overwhelmingly supported conservatives.

GWB and conservatives INCREASED their support in virtually ALL demographic measures. This was thanks to Soros, Kos, Kerry, Moore, Rather et al successfully broadcasting the left's failed message.

Keep up the good work!!!!

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Damn!
Posted by: Molly McRae on Apr 28, 2005 1:03 PM   
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How do we get out of this mess?

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I agree ...
Posted by: GeneK on Apr 28, 2005 1:03 PM   
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It was the Dumb Dems and their Dumb policies, and Dumb candidates, and Dumb elitist Hollywood supporters that help GWB get elected.

When the American public realized that the Dem policies would worsen all aspect of their life they overwhelmingly supported conservatives.

GWB and conservatives INCREASED their support in virtually ALL demographic measures. This was thanks to Soros, Kos, Kerry, Moore, Rather et al successfully broadcasting the left's failed message.

Keep up the good work!!!!

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» RE: Dim-bulbman Posted by: Winner
Complain, complain, etc.
Posted by: recj50 on Apr 28, 2005 1:33 PM   
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Rather than continuously complain about who did what wrong, lets hear some ideas and suggestions on what to do right in 06 and 08. Get these ideas to your Senator or House member and keep pushing them to do things differently. I have been emailing my representatives almost weekly on Soc. Sec, the Nuc Option, etc. Contribute to the whomever you think can make a difference. But stop pointing the finger!

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» RE: Complain, complain, etc. Posted by: may_child
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Yeah right, GeneK
Posted by: may_child on Apr 28, 2005 4:19 PM   
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Vote in more conservatives and give their policies another 3-5 years to take effect.

Then you'll see the power of a free market economy,


Don't you mean supply-side economics?

an ownership society

In which someone richer owns you!

and the social impact of personal responsibility.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh, you are too funny, GeneK. Like the personal responsibility practiced by your idol, Bush, who refuses to take responsibility for a single one of his LIES or DECEPTIONS? Like the personal responsibility that is practiced by Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, who make zillions off of spreading hatred and intolerance, and then, when they're caught, blaming everyone but themselves? Like the personal responsibility of "Christian" extremists, who claim that "godless liberals" drove them to murder abortion doctors and bomb clinics?

A smaller, less intrusive gov't,

Just small enough to fit in the bedroom. And less intrusive? Since when is dictating to people what God they can worship, who they can love and marry, and what they can read less intrusive?

individual rights,

Except for the right to worship whatever God they choose, if any, who they can love and marry, and what they can read.

lower taxes,

Lower taxes for the extremely wealthy and corporations. The rest of us will be taxed to death to pay for those cuts, so Bush can have his war.

strict interpretation of the constitution

More like the Constitution being used as toilet paper.

and individuals determining what's best for themselves and their families

More like the elite "Christian" conservatives determining what's best for everyone else.

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» RE: Yeah right, concerned Posted by: GeneK
More crap from GeneK
Posted by: may_child on Apr 28, 2005 4:22 PM   
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When the American public realized that the Dem policies would worsen all aspect of their life they overwhelmingly supported conservatives.

Overwhelmingly? 49% of the voters voted Democrat!

GWB and conservatives INCREASED their support in virtually ALL demographic measures. This was thanks to Soros, Kos, Kerry, Moore, Rather et al successfully broadcasting the left's failed message.

More like: this was thanks to Rove, Limbaugh, Coulter, Novak, CNN, the Swift Boat Liars, and Fox news successfully smearing Democrats and liberals, and whipping up hysteria over nonissues like gay marriage. That is, when they weren't slamming Kerry for DARING to mention that Dick Cheney's openly lesbian daughter (who the right-wingers have used as their beards, so to speak, to prove that they really don't hate fags) is a lesbian.

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Cleaning Up The Toxic Spill of Right-wing Ideology
Posted by: thirdmg on Apr 28, 2005 5:11 PM   
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"The unholy combination of theocracy and plutocracy that now rules this country is, in fact, enabled by dumb liberals."

Thank you, Molly. That's what I've been arguing for years. The radical right hasn't been winning because it has new or better ideas. All of their ideas are re-runs from before the Great Depression: less government for curtailing the abusive power of big business and the ruling class; more religion and morality for controlling the rest of us. What went wrong in recent decades is that the radical right was given a free ride to resurrect those self-serving values through the creation of a vast infrastructure of propaganda, while self-doubting liberals looked on silently and did little to defend liberal values. The result has been a vast toxic spill of right-wing ideology contaminating the political and social environments.

Fortunately, the grassroots left is beginning to wake up, but it's going to take time to build our own communication infrastructure, re-invigorate and embolden the Democratic Party, take back the country, restore economic and social fairness, and clean up the mess the radical right has created.

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Oh this is my country, my country....
Posted by: bulbman on Apr 29, 2005 3:46 AM   
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"The American system is the most ingenious system of control in world history. With a country so rich in natural resources, talent and labor power the system can afford to distribute just enough wealth to just enough people to limit discontent to a troublesome minority. It is a country so powerful, so big, so pleasing to so many of its' citizens that it can afford to give freedom of dissent to the small number who are not pleased. There is no system of control with more openings, apertures, flexibilities, rewards for the chosen. There is none that disperses its control more complexly through the voting system, the work situation, the church, the family, the school, the mass media - none more successful in mollifying opposition with reforms, isolating people from one another, creating patriotic loyalty."
-- Howard Zinn, from 'A People's History of the United States,' first published 1981

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Spineless, yellow bellied, auto-lobotomized morons
Posted by: agnostic1 on Apr 29, 2005 4:58 AM   
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Today's democratic party is not only afraid of its own shadow, they feel that they must bow at the feet of a small, dangerous, neoconservative group of christian taliban in an effort to gain voters. Ms. Ivins hits it on the head. Today's dumbocrats are pathetic, a poor excuse for a national party and as big a cause of the third party movement as the feckless "faithful" creationists who infect another formerly great party, the GOP.

If they lose even more power, they did it to themselves. It serves them right.

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The LIBERALS just don't get it.
Posted by: bookwoman on Apr 29, 2005 5:20 AM   
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The liberals continue to make fun of the middle of the road, church attending (or not church attending) voter who worries about the future of their children. Most of these people are deeply conflicted about gay rights. They want to be fair, but they can't get past the centuries of misconceptions about homosexuals, and the Radical Right is feeding on that conflict. These moderates are not bad people, and they feel that they live a decent life. Still the Liberals think its cute to make fun of them. I know the difference between a Pinot Noir, a Pinot Gris and a Zinfadel by taste. I attend church at least once a week, and I believe in Evolution, but I think there was some sort of guidance ( guess this is called Intelligence Engineering or some other jive slogan some Elitist made up). I don't appreciate having my religious beliefs made fun of because some "expert" can't get his or her mind around the concept of GOD. It "ain't" cool and it "ain't" going to win any elections. I don't make fun of their beliefs or lack thereof, why should they make fun of mine. I didn't vote for "W" in either election. He lost me with "hello" back in 1999. Just the war record of Richard Cheney and his remarks about not serving make me crazy. There are at least a dozen issues flying around these days which are hurting U. S. families. Why aren't the Democrats already pounding at them daily. The Right would be and does. Instead we already have a dozen candidates going in as many different ways to get ready for their own campaigns for President. Get it together, guys or they are going to roll over you again. By the way, what ever happened to Howard Dean(who, by the way, is not a Liberal); has anyone seen or heard from him lately.

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Third Party
Posted by: chitijdth on Apr 29, 2005 5:48 AM   
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While our electoral system makes it impossible for a Third Party to win a national election, or, in most cases, even a state-wide election, the importance of progressives joining a Third Party has never been greater. The Democratic Party knows that it cannot ever hope to be a majority party without its base of progressives; however, they count on the fact that the only choice for progressive voters is to vote for them or not vote at all. If, instead, progressives were to join the Green Party, it would provide that party with enough clout to push the Democrats to take more progressive positions in exchange for endorsement of the Democratic candidate(s). .Unfortunately, with the decline of unions, the militant organization of the exteme right, and the Clintonian move to “Republican lite,” progressives have been left in disarray. If they could exert enough discipline to become a coherent voice, it would be the Democratic Party that would have no place to go but towards the left, raising economic and environmental issues that matter to most of the people regardless of their stance on gay marriage, stem cell research, etc.

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Third Party
Posted by: chitijdth on Apr 29, 2005 5:54 AM   
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While our electoral system makes it impossible for a Third Party to win a national election, or, in most cases, even a state-wide election, the importance of progressives joining a Third Party has never been greater. The Democratic Party knows that it cannot ever hope to be a majority party without its base of progressives; however, they count on the fact that the only choice for progressive voters is to vote for them or not vote at all. If, instead, progressives were to join the Green Party, it would provide that party with enough clout to push the Democrats to take more progressive positions in exchange for endorsement of the Democratic candidate(s). .Unfortunately, with the decline of unions, the militant organization of the exteme right, and the Clintonian move to “Republican lite,” progressives have been left in disarray. If they could exert enough discipline to become a coherent voice, it would be the Democratic Party that would have no place to go but towards the left, addressing economic and environmental issues that matter to most people regardless of their positions on gay marriage, stem cell research, etc.

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Lagniappe
Posted by: 42Years on Apr 29, 2005 7:31 AM   
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Thank you. This is the first time since high school that I have seen anyone use the word "lagniappe" in print. While this particular article has drawn a lot or comments, for the most part everyone agrees that there is a problem but no one has the slightest idea how to fix it. I'm beginning to believe what a Bush Administration aid once said when he talked about those who act and those who analyze the actions of others. It appears that Bush and Company act out their own reality and we are left trying to figure out what happened while the Company acts out another reality, staying one step ahead of us. Stop a moment and think about that. It makes you mad to be dismissed summarily, but it almost makes you admire a person or group of people who create their own world without considering anyone elses opinion. Such authority and power it must create. THe audacity of it all! And yet, that is exactly what is happening. If you are not part of the power elite, you are following the leader. And the leader who creates the rules, allows you to gripe and bitch and rant and rave just enough to blow off steam before you get really mad and revolt. Chances are, if you are sitting reading posts on the internet, you aren't struggling too much. It is always so much easier to talk about problems than do something about them. Unfortunately, most of us don't get the opportunity to make a difference, so we go along to get along. In other words "lagniappe" is an archaic practice that has been lost over time along with many human values that once made life rich and enjoyable. We are invested with the right to liberty, life, and the pursuit of happiness just so long as our rich, elected officials in Washington, DC and their bosses give us permission. Meanwhile, those of us who are angry, frustrated, confused, and afraid of what is happening continue to ink our thoughts, thereby finding some measure of relief that we have done what we can to fix the problem. The point? It is dumb human behavior and mass psychosis that permits any political party to take advantage of the system. We got here by invading a foreign country and killing off most of the native Americans. Why should we change now?

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Gracious Choices
Posted by: amilius on Apr 29, 2005 11:02 AM   
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Molly Ivins is so graciously and clearly on target with these observations that one can actually smile bemusedly at the confused panderings of the likes of Tom Friedman and Chris Mathews. Molly has clearly seen that rather than ask is it legal, possible, moral, or advantageous. it always beneficial in the face of possible choices to simply ask, "Is it gracious?" We currently are governed by the least gracious executive and legislative branches in the history of our evolving nation. A nation that is blessed with abundance and power knows that such things are granted in Graciously Organized Design for the purpose of graciously sharing of benefit. Our leaders claim to know this even as they pile ungracious choice upon ungracious choice to the 'advantage' of few. Ungracious choices belie and deny the nature of our nation's blessings. Spiritually enlightened secular humanism shines light on this. No wonder the right so demans it. Might it be time to wrest governance and God from the savage grip of the righteous? Might that be the gracious alternative for progressives to make to the shallow and ungracious 'faith'-based choices of the Repressive Religiously Righteous Repugs? I would graciously allow such to be so. We are all One graciously organized design existing within and without religion. Thank you, Molly, for allowing the truth to shine with such clarity.

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No one listened
Posted by: lenal on Apr 29, 2005 11:22 AM   
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Having worked diligently for the Kerry/Edwards campaign, I do have to differ. Everything in your column Molly, was repeated in stop after stop across this country, but it was not often broadcast on cable or networks channels and print coverage too was skimpy. Only by dedicating a large amount of time to the three C-Span stations and PBS and NPR (less rather than more lately) would one be aware of this illuminating picture of reality. Watching the televised sessions of both Houses of Congress is essential also, these are provided archived on the C-Span website so one can tailor viewing to personal schedules.

When listening to Washington Journal daily weekdays on C-Span there are always callers placing blame for this and that on the liberal media. Will someone please tell me where and to what they are referencing. This tactic of smothering the media with the administrations framing propaganda is all too evident at present in the coded presentations about changes to social security. The mantra I hear most often is "The Democrats don't have a plan" - meaning the R's are superior because the POTUS has made a proposal that is not a plan but wants credit for one but no responsibility, which is dodged by claiming he wants Congress to design one.
They will not acknowledge that denying further extension of tax CUTS to the upper echelon rich is a plan that will provide a solution to the solvency problem far in the future of social security. Hopefully enough of the senior population is awake and pushing back to prevent this undercutting of the insurance program represented by social security and manipulating it into a risky investment program where much of the future increased risk in equity investment is going to occur because of this administrations mammoth debt loaded on the future workers and taxpayers that will somehow be left holding the bag to create enough revenue to continue interest financing on it.

And I just finished reading Thomas Frank's "What's The Matter with Kansas?" and have written a review that will soon be on my personal web pages and my blog. Sorry cannot provide links because they exceed what is imposed as word limit on the urls.

lenal

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Aiding and Abetting
Posted by: US Person on Apr 29, 2005 11:40 AM   
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Left on!, Ms Ivins. When a third of the Democrats in the House vote with the handmaidens of plutocracy 3 times on vital economic issues (bankruptcy, estate tax, energy) what's a body to 'spect? I say throw the bums out!

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hilchris
Posted by: hilchris on Apr 29, 2005 1:58 PM   
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Who let the dog in!!!!......Gene appears to be a true Republican ............. conservative to the core!!.......wonder where we'd all be today if the conservatives had been able to go down the path this administration has led us on every time the republicans have been in power!

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John H. St.John
Posted by: gramps on Apr 29, 2005 7:22 PM   
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It is possible now for a third party to win. We would have elected Perot if our hero hadn't bugged out in the middle of the campaign. John Dean raised 35 million on his blog. The problem is that all of our liberal leadership are shaking their own trees. The reasons for third parties not winning is that most of them are single issue, like the Greens, or theSocialists.
We need a party that does not follow some ideology, and who's main issue is getting corporation money out of politics.

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It's All Academic
Posted by: OrsonWells on Apr 29, 2005 10:50 PM   
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Molly's "Dumb Dems" column was full of valid points and observations, and I disagree with none of them. However, any discussion of what Dems could have done or might do better will be moot as long as 80% of the voting and/or tabulation in this country is controlled by a handful of companies run by active Republicans (who keep their computer code secret even from state officials), and Attorneys General are allowed to supervise elections in their state while also running one of the candidates campaigns. Until these situations are rectified, Dems will continue to lose elections, regardless of whatever else they do.

I know many think such talk is strictly for the tin-foil-hat crowd; that pundits bat the issue away with dismissive comments about "internet conspiracy theorists" and the corporate news establishment simply ignores it, but there is a preponderance of evidence indicating something was rotten in Ohio. Think I'm a wacko? Go to www.crisispapers.org (am I allowed to plug a website here? It's not mine!) and read the essay on election fraud. Aaahh, go ahead; take five minutes and do it. If you've got time to read this you can surely make the time for that.

Analysis and soul-searching is all very well but, ultimately, academic. I'm tellin' ya, kids: any Democrat who believes Bush actually won the last election is doomed to be a member of The Incredible Shrinking Party. After however many anamolous elections it's going to take for enough people to say, "hmmm, maybe we should look into this," I hope there'll still be enough left of this country for it to matter.

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America's Corporate Turds
Posted by: SFRosalyne on Apr 30, 2005 3:12 AM   
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As I have long said in relation to the corruption of both major parties and their obsequiousness to that Almighty (insert favorite profanity here) Corporate Dollar:

Democrats and Republicans are opposite ends of the same corporate turd.

Personally, any elected official who takes so much as a penny in exchange for a political favor is a traitor and should be stripped of American citizenship and banished to Antarctica where their corruption will have no effect on the population – penguins don't need money after all.

Eliminate the corporation from politics and you eliminate the treason and corruption - it's that simple.

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taichiphil
Posted by: tachiphil on Apr 30, 2005 6:17 AM   
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let's take Molly's editorial and write an op ed piece for the local papers.

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Never argue with a crazy person
Posted by: nomad on Apr 30, 2005 10:45 AM   
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I've never participated in on-line "discussions" before but decided to see how it works. What I've noticed about this thread is the attention given to comments posted by an individual clearly not interested in reasoned debate. (Look at the provocative language and inanity of the comments.) This person has chosen to post these comments where they serve primarily to provoke hostile responses and distract other participants from productive discourse. This person wants a reaction and, posted on a right wing discussion, his/her mindless, insanity would not draw the negative attention he/she so desperately craves.

My suggestion, to those of you who really want to talk about articles and the issues raised, is to clip the wing nuts' flight feathers.....don't rise to the bait; refuse to be drawn off into the crazy maker's realm; don't allow him/her to define the discussion; don't dignify lunacy with any response at all. If not fed, this person will fade away.

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Who is this GeneK moron?
Posted by: may_child on Apr 30, 2005 2:03 PM   
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The crap he spouts would be funny if it weren't so delusional, whiny, and pathetic. He's a typical wingnut, so in love with his imagined victimization when he has ample representation in the media, no matter what CONSERVATIVE whiners like Mark Helprin say.

(It's kind of funny to see so many wingnuts invade progressive boards. You know the vice versa would never be permitted. Any liberal who dared show their face in Freeperville would be permanently banned in about ten seconds.)

Oh, he has a chance to become a billionaire under conservatives!

Good luck. The only chance you have is if you win the lottery. Because this "ownership" society you so worship means that someone richer owns you. The middle class gets taxed to death to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy and for corporations...and to pay for your idol, Dubya Bush's, war, which was fought under false pretenses.

Oh, how dreadful liberals are to want to make the rich and corporations pay their fair share! But whiny neocons like you call it "being penalized for success." I suppose the next nonsense you spout will be, "The rich are rich because they work hard and earn it." You mean like Paris Hilton? Like the children of celebrities? (Celebrities are "all liberal," you know!) The middle class works hard too...why the hell should they pick up the slack so the rich can have tax cuts that they don't need?

Waaaaahhhh, the "liberal media" so victimized poor Bush!

Give me a break, it treated him with kid gloves! The Swift Boat Liars, the right-wing radio talk shows, Fox, Limbaugh, Coulter, Novak...they all shamelessly shilled for Bush and smeared Kerry with zero accountability from the "liberal media" that silenced them -- no wait, spready their hatred and lies, for fr ee.

Oh, there was Michael Moore, GeneK the Whiner will say next. Ever think that perhaps his film was a MONSTER success because he hit a nerve? That there are a lot of people who don't like Bush or his policies? In fact, almost HALF THE COUNTRY voted not necessarily for Kerry, but AGAINST BUSH. Bush's main shtick is that he's protecting us from terrorism. So why did 9/11 OCCUR UNDER HIS WATCH?! How has he made us safe? The rest of the world hates us, we're trillions in debt, our military is stretched thin, anti-American sentiment is blooming. Oh, but they only hate us because they're "jealous."

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Who is this GeneK moron? cont'd
Posted by: may_child on Apr 30, 2005 2:03 PM   
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Then there's the damage at home People can't get health insurance, and even those that have it end up tens of thousands in debt from one emergency -- and have to declare bankruptcy. But wait...Bushie and his pals have removed even that dubious safety net! Bush's environmental record is abysmal -- nonpartisan scientists almost unanimously agree about that. Rethuglicans have removed the tax break for buying hybrid vehicles, but increased the tax break for buying a Hummer!

Schools are badly underfunded, seniors have had their benefits slashed, and now the Rethuglicans want to privatize Social Security -- Bush is spending $200 MILLION DOLLARS to convince the American people that Social Security is in crisis, which even his own people know is bullcrap! It would cost trillions in changeover fees to implement his idiotic plan, and would eliminate one of the few reliable sources of income for seniors -- but not just them, widows/widowers and orphans! All you have to do to fix the problems with Social Security is raise the tax cap from $90,000 a year to $200,000 a year...but I suppose that's "penalizing people for their success," too, huh GeneK?

Do you honestly want to live under a Christian theocracy, GeneK? Somehow I doubt it. But I'm guessing that you think you'll be exempt from those laws because you voted Rethuglican. Just like Limbaugh no doubt felt he'd be exempt from the laws allowing the federal government to dig around in your medical records, which he promoted and pushed for. Guess what? He wasn't. His wealth and his politics didn't protect him; the government is now poking around in his medical records, and the ACLU, the organization that the Rethuglicans hate more than anything, is defending him!

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rockpicker
Posted by: rockpicker on May 1, 2005 9:42 PM   
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Absolutely!! Regime Change Now! Everyone of them who voted for this stinking war should be thrown out of office next opportunity. Everyone who voted for the Patriot Act, without even reading it, out! The damage these "democrats" are doing to the working class should be answered by action. "Throw them all out on their asses! These pols who spit on the working classes!" No quarter! No exceptions! If they insist on voting with the haves, against the have nots, then I say we let them have it!

Let us start anew.

And, turn up the heat on Bob Novack. What he did was seditious. The whole country is waiting to hear WHO gave him his info. Come on, Bob....

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pen1947
Posted by: pen1947 on May 3, 2005 1:11 AM   
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It's amazing to me how such an effective and widely available columnist like Ivans doesn't get more traction with the public.I fully expect her to be one of the next great journalists to throw her hands in the air and leave us to our own stupidity in the managed news climate we are living in.Ask Bill Moyers.Please stay with us Molly we need you.

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A Bush Supporter
Posted by: Cybernalt on May 5, 2005 7:01 PM   
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Woman: "That's good, because I work three jobs and I feel like I contribute."

What's really fascinating, it this woman could not even get in the building unless she was a card-carrying DNA tested swearing on her grandfather's grave Bush supporter.

So here's a woman - the very embodyment of getting screwed - but still a bona-fide cult follower.

Amazing to me.

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grampop
Posted by: Grampop on May 8, 2005 1:16 PM   
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The easiest way to clean up this mess is to reform campaign financing. Then we could get to the meat and potatoes issues rather than issues dreamed up by spin doctors and phony think tanks. If you want to see a new idea for campaign reform go to:
http://www.lincolninitiative.org

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