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Christian Right Goes Nuclear

By Molly Ivins, AlterNet. Posted April 26, 2005.


It's a joke that the right wing claims it is against "judicial activists." What they want are judicial activists who agree with them.

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I was all set to write a column about the nuclear option -- the proposal to change the rules of the Senate in order to get President Bush's most questionable judicial appointments through -- when, lo, word came that there is no nuclear option anymore. It is now called "the constitutional option."

Who changed it? Why, the Republican Party, of course. Having found that "nuclear option" does not poll well, the Republicans simply decreed the rules change can no longer be described by that name. Further, the Republican Party sent media operatives around to major news organizations to inform them that anyone who fails to obey the new diktat on usage will be demonstrating the dread "liberal bias."

Since this particularly fateful rules change was first christened "the nuclear option" by Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi in 2003, and has been called "the nuclear option" ever since -- by Republicans, along with everybody else -- I have to say this is a distinctly Orwellian development.

In fact, given the implicit threat that the Republican Party faithful will be encouraged to denounce all news outlets that do not conform to this new political correctness, I'd say it is not only ridiculous but also dangerous, quite a feat.

I shall, of course, continue to refer to the proposed change as the nuclear option out of a sense of obligation to freedom of speech. I would be shocked if anyone in the media did otherwise.

Now, back to substance. Americans are notoriously bored by governmental process. If you want to lose readers, just start a story with, "House Bill 787 was passed out of subcommittee by a unanimous vote on Tuesday." So, convincing folks that changing Senate Rule 22 is a danger to the republic is a challenge. But this really is about protecting the rights of the minority in the Senate, the right of every senator to filibuster.

In the old movie Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, the key scene is Jimmy Stewart's filibuster on behalf of the people, which triumphantly wins over his fellow senators. Under the changed rule, Mr. Smith would have to keep his mouth shut.

Actually, no one filibusters anymore. The last filibuster against a judicial nominee was in 1968, when the Republicans successfully filibustered for four days to stop Abe Fortas from becoming chief justice of the Supreme Court. If there's a serious threat of filibuster, the leaders broker a deal.

But the Democrats are threatening to filibuster the same Bush judicial nominees they busted in his first term, leaving the poor man with only a 95 percent approval rate for his nominees. Bush promptly renominated seven of these 10 dog judges (including Texas' own Priscilla Owen), and now the Republicans are prepared to change the rules so they can be cleared by a simple majority, rather than winning the 60 votes needed to stop a filibuster.

Since what goes around comes around, some Republican senators are deeply troubled about the prospect of being in the minority themselves someday without the right to filibuster. Further, in order to change Rule 22, the Senate also has to change the rules on how to change the rules. At present, a two-thirds vote, 67, is required to change the rules, but under a procedural ploy, this will be brought up "out of order," so it requires only 51 votes.

Look, this is a system of government based on protecting the rights of the minority. It is also based on the premise that there are three separate branches of government, each of which forms a check and a balance on the others. It was carefully designed to prevent the dictatorship of the majority.

That is why the Founders assigned the Senate, not the House, to advise and consent on federal nominations. Sen. Robert Byrd, the resident scholar of all things senatorial, notes that while Rule 22 is only 86 years old, the tactic itself has been used since the first Congress. (Hearing Byrd hold forth on such matters is pure pleasure -- whether you agree with him or not, he is a magnificent speaker of the old school and a sad reminder how debased most political speech is today.)

How God got involved in all this is a bit of a mystery. Some Christian Dominionists decided the Almighty is in favor of changing Rule 22. Led by James Dobson, who runs Focus on the Family, they decided 22 is "a filibuster against the faithful," implying and in some cases stating that anyone who opposes them is anti-Christian and probably working for Satan.

Last time I checked, no one had elected Dobson to decide who is a Christian and who is not. It's a joke that the right wing claims it is against "judicial activists." What they want are judicial activists who agree with them. These people don't want to govern, they want to rule.

(For an excellent sense of how the Christian Dominionists think, I highly recommend the two lead articles in the May issue of Harper's magazine.)

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Molly Ivins is a best-selling author and columnist who writes about politics, Texas and other bizarre happenings.

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You are great!
Posted by: susanheitner on Apr 26, 2005 3:51 PM   
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Love your breath of fresh air on my screen.

Delay Tom Delay until we have time to catch him at everything he is up to! Susan Heitner

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Years of Majoritarian Propaganda
Posted by: thirdmg on Apr 26, 2005 4:35 PM   
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I agree with Ivins that "this is a system of government based on protecting the rights of the minority." At least, that's what it's supposed to be. But this is yet another of those areas where the Republican Attack Machine spent decades successfully spreading propaganda and disinformation virtually unopposed, because progressives remained mostly silent. In this case, the radical right stirred up resentment by spreading the idea that the majority is supposed to rule, but that the rights of the majority have been undermined and stripped away by "devious," "ungodly," "un-American" liberals who fight for minority rights on issues ranging from prayer in schools to gay rights. The fact that the majoritarian claim is dead wrong doesn't matter if the people hearing it don't know any better, or want to believe it, and don't hear an opposing view repeatedly and aggressively challenging the lie.

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Dominionism
Posted by: Word Lackey on Apr 26, 2005 8:04 PM   
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I'm not sure whether it's something in the water but the whole Dominionism movement/cult seems to be popping up everywhere for me during the last week or two. I wrote a blog post on Dominionism but I really only scratched the surface. I'm certainly going to go look for the May Harpers for the articles on them.

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» RE: Dominionism Posted by: Sunfell
Dear Molly,
Posted by: herb on Apr 26, 2005 11:11 PM   
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You know I love you. But don't you think it's only fair if we warn these religious yahoos. I mean, don't they understand that when they are no longer needed that they will be eliminated? Maybe we should tell these nuts about the original cast of the Brown Shirts. When the National Socialist felt secure, they just went around and killed them off. The night of the long knives.

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» RE: Dear Molly, Posted by: Jammer2
» RE: Dear Molly, Posted by: 42Years
We Were Warned!
Posted by: Deb on Apr 27, 2005 5:30 AM   
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Bush told us slyly of his plan, but it went right over our heads. He said it would be a lot easier running the country if it was a dictatorship. What we didn't know then is that he would "make it so."

I'm a Democrat, a Christian - a Catholic one at that - and I'm an American. I dare anyone to tell me I'm "faithless" to my face. Them thar's fightin' words!

I'd just like to know which Bible they're reading from, because it's not mine.

Shame on the media for letting Shrub get away with his shenanigans.

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Is Bush really a lame-duck?
Posted by: Lizmv on Apr 27, 2005 6:09 AM   
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If the Republicans want to change the rules and think they can do it so easily, maybe what they really have in mind is a simple rule change to allow Bush to run for a third term or a fourth. After all, who do they have to replace him?

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Great Article
Posted by: Jim Brady on Apr 27, 2005 6:16 AM   
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Molly,
I always look forward to your articles, they are brilliant. Clear factual and entertaining.
I remember the debate about the lack of female opinion columnists in the major dailys. The NY Times could do way worse than you! Trouble is of course you preach to the converted.

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More Than Preaching to the Converted
Posted by: thirdmg on Apr 27, 2005 7:57 AM   
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Those who believe in prayer should thank their god for Molly Ivins, a major voice of sanity in our media. She does far more than preach to the converted. She also provides vital facts, insights and arguments that help the rest of us to arm ourselves against the increasingly irrational and de-stabilized political environment promoted by the radical right.

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Nice
Posted by: Coincidence on Apr 27, 2005 8:42 AM   
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Very interesting article.

There are so many things you don't see in mainstream news. For instance, I just learned about the Leave no child behind legislation act, and this is also like, unheard of.

Although I don't really follow much American news, I live in Québec.

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» RE: Nice Posted by: reallyone
Sam the Matchmaker
Posted by: sam sears on Apr 27, 2005 8:46 AM   
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Molly, on the last Nation criuise I told you about my brother who wanted to marry you after reading your column on breaking a dog of killing chickens. I called him yesterday on his birthday and he is still interested and willing to present himself for inspection at a time and place of your choosing. I'm going to miss you on the next Nation cruise.
Love and respect from Sam the Matchmaker

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Why they aren't worried
Posted by: jmjohnsey on Apr 27, 2005 9:09 AM   
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Don't count on the Republicans being dissuaded from changing rules because they might one day be in the minority. Perhaps they aren't worried about that because of their plans to be a "permanent Republican majority."

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All Hail
Posted by: whoaisme on Apr 27, 2005 9:55 AM   
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Molly, you are the greatest. Keep up the good work.

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Molly, dear, if you're not too busy
Posted by: whoaisme on Apr 27, 2005 9:58 AM   
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Look, this is a system of government based on protecting the rights of the minority.

I'd like to know in which article of the constitution this appears. I can't seem to find it.

Thanks a bunch.

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» Nice try but wrong Posted by: GeneK
» RE: Nice try but wrong Posted by: Tommy
» RE: Nice try but wrong Posted by: nakis
» Still wrong.... Posted by: GeneK
» RE: Still wrong.... Posted by: drmeow
» GeneK needs a pointed hat Posted by: BriMan
Another Constitutional question
Posted by: GeneK on Apr 27, 2005 10:30 AM   
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Since I haven't recieved my copy of the New and Improved Constitution written be Soros and approved by Hollywood....

Please show me where the "Advise and Consent" clause requires the senate to have 60 votes to pass a nomination.

My version of the Constitution states that the Senate can make up its own rule for procedure. In Fact the Senate rules have been changed many, many times. Even your precious "constitutional right" to filibuster was only added in 1917 and has been changed a couple times.

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Another Dem FLIP-FLOP --- will the hypocrisy ever end?
Posted by: GeneK on Apr 27, 2005 10:36 AM   
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Apparently this “right to filibuster” is another Dem Flip-Flop

"I have stated over and over again on this floor that I would refuse to put an anonymous hold on any judge; that I would object and fight against any filibuster on a judge, whether it is somebody I opposed or supported; that I felt the Senate should do its duty. If we don't like somebody the President nominates, vote him or her down." Sen. Patrick Leahy

In 1995, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) And Eight Other Democrats Now Serving In The Senate (Bingaman, Boxer, Feingold, Harkin, Kennedy, Kerry, Lautenberg, And Sarbanes) Supported Ending All Filibusters. The Harkin-Lieberman Proposal Would Have Amended The Senate Rules To Allow A Simple Majority To Overcome "Any" Filibuster, Legislative Or Executive.

"Senators Who Feel Strongly About The Issue Of Fairness Should Vote For Cloture, Even If They Intend To Vote Against The Nomination Itself. It Is Wrong To Filibuster This Nomination, And The Senators Who Believe In Fairness Will Not Let A Minority Of The Senate Deny [The Nominee] His Vote By The Entire Senate." Sen. Ted Kennedy

"According To The U.S. Constitution, The President Nominates, And The Senate Shall Provide Advice And Consent. It Is Not The Role Of The Senate To Obstruct The Process And Prevent Numbers Of Highly Qualified Nominees From Even Being Given The Opportunity For A Vote On The Senate Floor." Sen. Barbara Boxer

"For Too Long, We Have Accepted The Premise That The Filibuster Rule Is Immune. Yet, Mr. President, There Is No Constitutional Basis For It." Sen. Joseph Lieberman

As Majority Leader, Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV) Initiated Four Precedent-Setting Procedures That Allowed A Simple Majority To Change Senate Procedures Without Altering The Standing Rules, Thereby Undermining Minority Rights To Filibuster And Use Related Tactics.

Byrd Led The Creation Of Precedents In 1977, 1979, 1980 And 1987 To Stop Filibusters And Other Delaying Tactics Previously Allowed Under Senate Rules Or Precedents.

"Let the Senate vote on amendments, and then vote up or down on the resolution. ... If I have to be forced into a corner to try for a majority vote, I will [change the rules] because I am going to do my duty as I see my duty, whether I win or lose." Sen. Robert Byrd

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» more LIES from the Left Posted by: GeneK
» RE: more LIES from the Left Posted by: Java Black
Want to learn more about dominionism?
Posted by: Karieson on Apr 27, 2005 10:38 AM   
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www.theocracywatch.org
This is an excellent site that gives the history of this Christian Extremist Cult, gives names of people and organizations and details the connections between them all. It's frightening reading and should sound an alarm for anyone who wants to protect our constitution and American way of life. These people are NOT patriots, they are not representative of FREEDOM or American values. And they are dead serious about turning our government into a CHRISTIAN GOVERNMENT.

Right now the most interesting and scary tactic they are using is the indoctrination of their children. They are now teaching their Christian version of American history, of science, they have a couple of Law Schools churning out "Christian lawyers." The latest newsletter from The Barna Group http://www.barna.org/ talks about "our research has shown that most of the influence on what people think and do comes from just seven sources: movies, television, music, family, books, law, and the Internet. Consequently, we are striving to understand, influence and operate within the spheres of greatest influence to help facilitate genuine spiritual transformation in people’s lives. But how can we do that?
Josiah Corps. The paucity of godly leadership in the local church today is not because God failed to provide the leaders required. The obstacle has been how we define, identify, train, resource and support godly, called, gifted, visionary leaders. Unlike the popular teaching in many churches today, you do not decide to be a leader; you are a leader only if God calls you to that ministry. To address the church’s leadership paralysis, the vision for the Josiah Corps is to annually identify a nationwide collection of kids between the ages of 8 and 12 who have the calling and gifting to be godly leaders, and to pour 10-15 years of resources into their lives so that they are ready to lead us in fighting the good fight by the time they reach their early twenties. Through a combination of evaluation tools, mentoring/coaching, character formation, skill development, leadership teaching, hands-on experiences, team building, networking, apprenticeships, peer clusters, prayer, and feedback and assessment, we pray that the Lord will allow us to help raise up a mighty army of strong and courageous young leaders who will help our nation to honor God more completely."

This is a cult and they are brainwashing children.

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Another good article in the Harper's Molly sited
Posted by: joncee on Apr 27, 2005 10:47 AM   
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In the front (pg.7) The Wrath of The Lamb by Lewis H. Lapham. (May Issue)

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Tyranny/despotism
Posted by: drmeow on Apr 27, 2005 11:08 AM   
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Miriam-Webster on-line:
des·po·tism
1 a : rule by a despot b : despotic exercise of power
2 a : a system of government in which the ruler has unlimited power : ABSOLUTISM b : a despotic state

tyranny
1 : oppressive power ; especially : oppressive power exerted by government
2 a : a government in which absolute power is vested in a single ruler; especially : one characteristic of an ancient Greek city-state b : the office, authority, and administration of a tyrant

Declaration of Independence:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

So, its either filibuster or civil war - take your pick.

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» RE: Tyranny/despotism Posted by: MausMasher
More on dominionism
Posted by: Meta4Life on Apr 27, 2005 12:34 PM   
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I'd like to add this essay on dominionism to the other references listed for those interested in learning more about this subject. ReligiousTolerance.org's "recent developments" list is a bit outdated, but the core information is sound.

Also see this blog for some more thoughts on the recent ascendence of the religious right.

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Four more years of hell
Posted by: Wells on Apr 27, 2005 1:00 PM   
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Thanks for your comforting words during these 4 more years of hell. Teresa's words may have been harsh, but are surely prophetic. Perhaps we democrats should have invested in asbestos-lined lifeboats to better endure this time in the lake of fire. Still, watching republican cruise liners pass by, above the fray like clouds, white-robed passengers sporting the darkest sunglasses, one wonders if its grandious asbestos lining is truly immortal or merely an insubstantial and short-lived veneer.

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"One Nation (World) Under Satan-In Big (Only) Bucks We Trust"
Posted by: Gomeraman on Apr 27, 2005 4:51 PM   
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Dearest Molly--Your writing and speaking "The Truth" turns me on and sets me free. Do you think that anyone has ever informed this so call Religous Right (Republicans) just which God they are serving. As a 40 year student of the Bible even I am aware that there is the God of the Universe (The Word-Later Jesus Christ) and there is a (g)od of this world-Satan (formerly Archangel Lucifer) as evidenced by the fact that after Jesus had fasted and prayed in the wilderness, and prior to commencing with his Fathers business, he was taken up into the heavens (sky) by Lucifer and shown "ALL" the Kingdoms of this world, which were then offered to Jesus if only he would bow down and worship Lucifer....These Republicans have bowed about as low as you can get....and still keep breathing.......It's a pity they just don't get it ...how much they have been deceived....

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Its pronounced NUKE-U-LER
Posted by: BuckFush on Apr 27, 2005 9:07 PM   
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When Bush's nomination of Bernard Kerik found its way into the crapper, he never waivered on his choice. Apparently he felt the country was too stupid to notice the hypocracy of the so-called moral candidate. He continued to state what a good choice Kerik would have made. Now, the GOP's arrogance is clouding their vision once again. The GOP used the filibuster rule extensively five years ago against Clinton, chances are they will want to use it again when they become the minority party. But alas, as this article alluded to, the Republicans are masters at the branding game. All they have to do is come up with some substance-free catch phrase that appeals to America's bubba factor and then repeat it at nauseum.

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JL
Posted by: jrlef on Apr 28, 2005 8:51 AM   
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Molly's the greatest. I think she, Maureen, Arianna, Jon S., Bill Maher, maybe George Carlin (and anyone appropriate I'm forgetting) should have a brainstorming session. They just might come up with the straw that breaks . . .

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watch your teleprompter
Posted by: eezzell on Apr 28, 2005 5:40 PM   
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Do they have a teleprompter on cspan? I have been noticing how carefully the Republican senators phrase their outrage of judicilal nominee filibustering. --Never been a judicial nominee filibuster (oops, Abe Fortas)--, --History of voting aye or nay to judicial nominees (oops, if the nomination gets out of committee) Please, somebody, give me the Republican definition of unprecedented.

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Molly got this one wrong
Posted by: Michael Turnauer, Vancouver,WA on Apr 30, 2005 1:16 AM   
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about the Republicans declaring the term "nuclear option" invalid. Repub's did not try to purge this term from the political lexicon. Worse, they tried to hoodwink the media into accepting as fact that it was coined by Democrats. It took liberal talk radio and the blogosphere to debunk it.

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From the Main Site/Alternet
Posted by: nakis on May 2, 2005 9:54 AM   
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RNC chairman Ken Mehlman with his version :
"Democrats are aggressively trying to prevent qualified judges from receiving what's been afforded every judicial nominee for over 200 years."
NewsMax's: "But for over 200 years, judicial filibusters were unheard of."
The White House's Scott McClellan: "It is unprecedented the steps they have gone to, to prevent highly qualified judges from receiving simply an up or down vote on the floor of the United States Senate."
Republican Mitch McConnell on Fox: "What is unprecedented is the fact that the Senate, for the first time in 200 years, last Congress chose to filibuster judges for the purpose of defeating them. That had never been done before in the history of the Senate."
The "independent" Blogs for Bush hawking their version -- quite similar to the others':
"Breaking with 200 years of Senate tradition, Democrat senators are refusing to let President Bush's judicial nominees get an up or down vote. You can do something about this."
And on and on. And the news media doesn't do their homework; take this AP story picked up by CBS for example. Democratic leader Harry Reid says his piece, that getting rid of the filibuster would be unprecedented abuse of power, while Republican leader Bill Frist repeats the "200 years" myth. And that's where it's left. He said, she said. No truth, no past.

But there is a past. Courtesy of Commonblog, testimony from Michael J. Gerhardt, Arthur B. Hanson Professor of Law William & Mary Law School, before the Committee on Senate Rules and Administration on June 5, 2003:
Over the past 200 years, it has been used frequently by senators from both parties against nominations as well as legislation. For instance, among the nominations defeated by protracted debate or dilatory tactics are eight Supreme Court nominations in the nineteenth century, one Supreme Court nomination in the twentieth century, and at least two nominees to non-judicial offices in the mid-1990s...As two pre-eminent constitutional scholars, John McGinnis and Michael Rappaport, who both served in the Office of Legal Counsel in the first President Bush's administration, have concluded, "the continuous use of filibusters since the early Republic provides compelling support for their constitutionality." (emphasis added)
Or, if you like moving pictures, here's MSNBC's Keith Olbermann deflating the "200 years" lie.

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Bobdowdall
Posted by: bobdowdall on May 2, 2005 11:41 AM   
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Miss Molly,

John Henry must be spinning in his grave.
Keep up the good work.
Bob Dowdall
Creator and co-producer of: "The man who beat the blacklist....John Henry Faulk.

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The New Republican Herd!
Posted by: shadow7 on May 4, 2005 7:39 PM   
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Interesting analysis to support Molly's premise.....and explain the lock-step Republicans and the lemmings who follow them..

CLICK HERE

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The Keystone Cops (aka Republican party)
Posted by: greenpatriot42 on May 6, 2005 10:57 AM   
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The "new" fundamental Christian bent of those holding the majority of power is disturbing to watch even from a distance. I blame Karl. But Pat Robertson's recent public comment on activist judges, among others, clearly pushes the new religious consciousness into the territory of the absurd.
Thank you Ms. Molly for continuing to hold a candle to all the bufoonery. What a piece of work our government is now.
I would love to see 5 million citizens gathered on the Mall demanding that Bush, and Cheney, and Rumsfeld be impeached for their sad version of leadership.

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MY NEW CHRISTAIN AMERICA
Posted by: GRANDPAPETE on May 6, 2005 2:19 PM   
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IN THE FUTURE OUR GOVERMENT RUN SCHOOLS WILL BE RENAMED, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE NONE RELIGOUS.
AUSNWITZ
CHELMNO
TREBLINKA
BELZEC
MAJDANEK
GRADUATION DAY WILL BE ATRIP TO THE " OVENS "

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I'm Going Nuclear (or at least ballistic)
Posted by: drake on May 8, 2005 3:54 PM   
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The origin of the United States Senate was part of the "Great Compromise". Populous states had more representatives in the house. To prevent a "tyranny of the majority", the Senate was set up so that every state, no matter how small the population, had two Senators. The founders were quite cognizant of the fact that the rights of the minority must be protected - especially in major, long-lasting decisions. This is why 2/3 of the Senate is required to approve a treaty; it's why 3/4 of the states must approve an amendment to the Constitution. Major, decisions have profound effects upon the people - all of the people. Appointing a judge who will be making important, precedent-setting decisions FOR THE REST OF HIS/HER LIFE is such a momentous event. It shouldn't be too much to ask that a solid majority of at least 60% of the Senators approve such an appointment. If a party can't get the support of even 5 of the opposition party's Senators to support a nominee, then it's probably a bad nominee - or one that is so partisan or single-issue obsessed that s/he will not reflect the American society at large.
This is why the "nuclear option" - the removal of that 60-vote safeguard of plurality, is a very bad idea. Those who try to cast this issue in terms of "people of faith" are, first of all, incredibly insulting to the 205 appointees who have already been approved (what, they AREN"T people of faith?). Secondly, and most importantly, it is an abomination to use the faith of many Americans to advance a political agenda - many "people of faith" are also "people of thought" and have the intellect to see through the soulless hypocrisy of those who would prostitute spirit in their lust for power.

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bikerdude
Posted by: ebotsko on May 11, 2005 3:46 PM   
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I have a crush on Molly. She is so clear in her description of how this administration is screwing us...
Perhaps we need to petition the courts to order these "churches" to start paying taxes since they are now more political than religious...I think that the religious right is neither....

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Posted by: econom25 on Dec 14, 2006 2:37 AM   
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