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Fraught with Ambiguity

By Matthew Scott Kelemen, AlterNet. Posted April 15, 2005.


In 'Palindromes,' has Todd Solondz made an anti-anti-choice film? Or a pro-anti-life one? He won't tell you; audiences will have to decide for themselves. That's the beauty of choice.
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Todd Solondz is in a hotel in Los Angeles. His calls are fielded by the front desk operator, who has no idea who he is beyond his "guest" status. Had she known that Solondz is the director of Welcome to the Dollhouse (1995), Happiness (1998) and Storytelling (2001), there might have been a hint of wariness in her voice. Hints of wariness are standard operating procedure in Solondz' world.

But maybe she relates to his films. Maybe she felt as much empathy for Dollhouse's tragically awkward Dawn Wiener (played by Heather Matarazzo) as Solondz did. Maybe Dylan Baker's tortured Bill Maplewood in Happiness helped her see some shred of humanity within a pedophile. Maybe Storytelling tore down her pre-conceptions of liberal arts colleges, teen homosexuality and suburban privilege.

Or perhaps she just found Dollhouse exploitative, Happiness perverse, and Storytelling bizarre and unwatchable. Regardless, as long as she is affected by Solondz' films -- better yet, if she changes as a result -- then Solondz feels that he's done his job correctly and created relevant cinematic art.

Solondz returns to theaters this week with Palindromes. At its heart, according to Solondz, it is the story of 13-year-old Aviva's quest for love. Audiences are going to be more affected by the film's narrative thrust: her pregnancy and coerced abortion, her odyssey that brings her to a group home in which right-to-life activists care for special-needs children (who record and perform as the Sunshine Singers) when not plotting to kill abortionists, and her encounter with the late Dawn Wiener's brother Marc, whose philosophy about free will and predestination allows him to cope with being pegged as a child molester and provides the film's most transcendent scene.

But Solondz also went out on a limb by casting seven different actresses (including Jennifer Jason Leigh), and one actor, to play Aviva. What seems like a gimmick slowly makes sense, as Solondz wants his audiences to care about Aviva, not to identify with the actress playing her (or relate her to Aviva's cousin, the Dawn Wiener character from Dollhouse, whose funeral opens the film). It may be Solondz' last chance to prove that, yes, he does care about his characters, and no, he is not a misanthrope toying with audience expectations. But he also deals with the issue of abortion in a way that has never been presented in a film before, a topic ripe for debate among the punditry should Palindromes be sufficiently illuminated by the spotlight of controversy.

Matthew Scott Kelemen: I recently watched Storytelling for the first time, and I hope you don't mind my saying it this way, but I think Palindromes is a much better film.

Todd Solondz: I'm glad that you like Palindromes!

I was confused [by the casting method] for the first 60 minutes, although I was intrigued. But the scene at Aviva's party when Marc Wiener expounds on free will versus predestination blew me away. I felt I was watching something that pushed the art forward and was very relevant. We have the right to choose, but our choices are predetermined. It's the first time I've seen something like this addressed in film in that way.

Well, good, thank you! I try to put things out there, articulate things that I don't see articulated.

I think that sequence is going to strike a chord in audiences, about something they are aware of but don't think about that much.

Oh, wow. Well, these things are unpredictable. I'm just appreciative that anyone can sit through and watch, and show up at these things. I don't take [open-minded audiences] for granted.

So how did you approach directing eight different individuals playing the same role? Did you have an idea of which part you wanted to shoot first in order to ...

It was actually about logistics. We actually shot the Sunshine sequence first because that was the one that was the most involved in terms of having so many children all at the same time. And from there I don't remember the exact order. I'd have to think about it. But as I say it was all dictated by logistics.

How did you create continuity or synchronicity between the actresses?

Well, what I was looking for a certain quality, a quality of innocence, of vulnerability -- that this was her constant. So with each performer who was playing this character, I tried to extract, to elicit as best I could, that quality of innocence and emphasize that, so there would be a kind of cohesion to connect them all. If you speak to Ellen Barkin, I'm sure she will tell you that whether she was speaking to the Latina, the redhead or Jennifer Jason Leigh, it was all as if it were the same person.

When you get to Jennifer Jason Leigh's scenes, suddenly it seems as if all of the other Avivas are have been taking their cue from her. You see this winsomeness that she infused in her characters often in her career.

That's great. She is one of the best actresses of our time.

In recent weeks, when I've brought up your name, I often hear 'Oh, he hates his characters.' When I was watching Palindromes, I felt I was seeing two layers. On one hand, I thought I was watching a very respectful portrayal of those kids. The other side was that people would fall back on conventional Todd Solondz criticisms: "God, this is another way of hating his characters."


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Matt Kelemen is Arts & Entertainment Editor at Las Vegas CityLife.

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STANDING ON THE FENCE!!!
Posted by: WONDERWALEYE on Apr 15, 2005 7:37 AM   
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It appears to me that you are standing on the fence between good and evil. We do not have that choice. It appears that this film is a very is a very coy way to promote pro-choice!!!
In other words, sneek it into you with out you knowing it. This subject is either a creation of GOD or a creation of man!! I know of no man or women that has been able to make a baby!!! All they can do is go thru the motion given to us by GOD to reproduce. It is enginered by GOD as to whether you concieve or not. No man or woman has been able to make a baby outside the womb that was totaly disigned by man!!! In other words, it is only GODS CREATION!! Do we have a right to distroy GODS CREATION??? Do we have a right to distroy the world that is again GOD,S creation?? I know of no right given by GOD that allows us to distroy anything with out HIS consent!!! Only man has taken it out of GODS HANDS and attempted to go his own way!!! The decisions that man has made that goes against GODS WILL has far reaching disaster. So you see we are in a way like robots. We either work or are broke!! You can't have it two ways!!!! STANDING ON THE FENCE IS NOT ALLOWED!!!! MAY THE LOVE OF GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, AND GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT BE WITH YOU!!! [this has two meanings]

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» RE: STANDING ON THE FENCE!!! Posted by: Iamnotafruittree
» RE: STANDING ON THE FENCE!!! Posted by: gooch_x
» RE: STANDING ON THE FENCE!!! Posted by: elmysterio
Confronted
Posted by: wegrrlzrock on Apr 15, 2005 8:23 AM   
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"And the whole point is not so much about me. It's about you, about the audience, about how they engage when confronted with some of the consequences or complications of what this is all about."

Interesting that our first post hasn't even seen the movie to let her/himself deal with the confrontation we are being offered and is yet so angry...

Why is it that so many are unwilling to question? Why are so many soooo uncomfortable with the processes of transformative art and Democracy and intellectual pursuits.

I can't wait to see the film and spend time discussing what sounds like a very interesting examination of some very tough issues with other folks who are willing to question.

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» RE: Confronted Posted by: elmysterio
3 things for WALEYE to check
Posted by: vic5542 on Apr 15, 2005 8:46 AM   
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WONDERWALEYE:

(1) Check your hate at the door. I suggest that this film can't "appear" to you to be anything at all in that you haven't seen it.

(2) Check your grammar and spelling. Assuming you have some version of a word processor, why not write your post while running the grammar and spell checkers prior to cutting and pasting the checked text into your post? It would help to tone down the appearance of an ignorant chimp playing with a computer.

(3) Check your keyboard; I think your caps-lock key is stuck -- or seems to be selectively stuck on certain words. (When your caps-lock key becomes stuck, strange things happen to your post. For instance, 'GODS CREATION' ends up reading like 'Ga-awwed's cree-aay-shun'.)

Based on your comments, I'm guessing that you _won't_ be going to see the film in question. More likely, you'll be the guy standing out front of the theater sporting a smart, end-of-days sandwich board. That said, I look forward to your further comments on subjects about which you've chosen to be uninformed.

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I MUST GET PERSONAL!!!
Posted by: WONDERWALEYE on Apr 15, 2005 9:56 AM   
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I know my mother would of wanted me to. My mother was a loving, careing, and wonderful woman!!! She went thru all the pain and heartach that we as children caused and never gave up. My mother is dead now.[commited suicide] Just before she died she told something that we never had any idea about. She had an abortion!!! It was a sin that bothered her to her dying day!!! She told us that she got pregant while going with my dad. Dad did not want his mother to know so he had my mother get an abortion. Back then having a child out of wedlock was really looked on with shame and was the gossip of the town. Mother never went into details about my dad's mother or what part she played in this, but we did not go to see her very much and when we all did she didn't like it. I never understood why, because she always treated us fine. As far as I knew my mother and dad was in love and very happy, and stayed together till she died. Right before she died she had nothing but contemt for my dad for having to get the abortion. She never wanted to. Then I started thinking I had a brother or sister that I never knew, never played with, and can never have an adult relationship with. My kids are missing a aunt or uncle and their kids to play with. We have a very close familly, so we would of been close to them. I beleive that GOD did forgive her for this as she confessed her sin and was very sorry for it. I don't believe my dad was. I can surley forgive my mother but my dad is another question, as I don't know how he handled it with GOD. There are far reaching sorrows from making this mistake!!! I know killing a child has to be on the top list of sins and you pay for it the rest of your life. I can only hope that someone that is thinking about getting a abortion will read this. Decisions made on the spur of the moment can have a life time effect. If you make that decision based on shame, money, or what will be required of you to raise that child, I suggest you turn to GOD and have faith that he will provide. MAY THE LOVE OF JESUS BE WITH YOU!!![this has two meanings]

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» RE: I MUST GET PERSONAL!!! Posted by: elmysterio
» RE: I MUST GET PERSONAL!!! Posted by: terihu
» RE: I MUST GET PERSONAL!!! Posted by: elmysterio
Emphasis mine.
Posted by: scottzak on Apr 15, 2005 12:25 PM   
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Don't you think that printing the questions in boldface tends to highlight the point-of-view of the questionner . . .
and lessen the importance of the responses?

Shouldn't the interviewee be the focus?



Interesting interview, though. ;-)

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» RE: mphasis mine. Posted by: MattK
The Solution
Posted by: Mar on Apr 16, 2005 11:31 AM   
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Against abortion? Cut off your dick.

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» RE: The Solution Posted by: elmysterio
Abortion is NOT A GOOD THING
Posted by: elmysterio on Apr 22, 2005 4:42 PM   
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Everyone get's so caught up in the pro-life/pro-choice debate that they seem to forget what the debate is all about... First off, before anybody get's all bent out of shape, I believe in the woman's right to choose what happens in her own body... BUT...

Abortion is not a good thing. It's a sad, painful thing. Ending the life of a baby that isn't wanted is sad. It's not something that should be done lightly or without significant fore-thought. It does carry long lasting reprecussions. Do I think that it should be outlawed? No, because women who want to do it will find a way, thus endangering themselves... We seem to forget when we get caught up in the debate that we're talking about killing a baby here. People seem to forget that. This is a LIFE we're ending. A life full of potential.

What truely disturbs me is when women use abortion as their primary form of birth control. Don't tell me that's an urban myth because I've seen that first hand... a woman who's had 7 abortions in 5 years.

Anyways, I'm not exactly sure what I'm trying to say here... so I just leave it there.

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Standing on the Fence Between Good and Evil
Posted by: MattK on Jul 7, 2005 5:08 PM   
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That's beautiful.

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