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Goodbye Uncle Sam, Hello Team Europe

By John Feffer, AlterNet. Posted April 14, 2005.


Not only does the world hate us, a new poll shows that for the first time most countries want us to get the hell out of the driver's seat.
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Over a curry dinner in Geneva, a South Korean friend confessed to being not entirely thrilled with her European experience. Sure, she had a well-paying job for one of the many international organizations that keep Geneva prosperous, bustling, and awash in dull conferences, but it all lacked a certain something. Europeans no longer believe in anything, she complained -- not like the Americans, who have the oomph and the moral clarity to "get the job done."

What "job" was she talking about? We most definitely were not getting the job done in Iraq, I pointed out. In recent years, it's Europe not the United States that's been on the right side of the major foreign policy issues of our time, be it Europe's objections to the Iraq War or its diplomatic approach toward resolving the conflicts with Iran and North Korea -- an approach that is far more likely to succeed than American military oomph. As for taking care of their own people, the social system in Europe -- the kind that ensured the job security, high-quality education, crime-free streets, and comparative lack of poverty that friend so clearly admired in Switzerland -- was clearly superior to anything the average American could hope for.

The truth is that the world would likely be a better place if Team Europe and not Team America were in charge. And more and more people around the world are reaching that conclusion.

A new poll conducted by GlobeScan and the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) reveals that citizens in twenty out of twenty-three countries would like to see Europe become more influential than the United States in world affairs. The survey tested attitudes toward the five permanent members of Security Council and Europe as a whole. The majority of citizens in only six countries (including my friend's South Korea) view the U.S. role in the world as mainly positive -- a dismal popularity rating comparable only to that of Russia. Here's how bad it is: even China rated higher than the United States in popular assessments of its global conduct. The United States also took the top prize as the country most widely viewed as having a negative influence on the world (in 15 countries), with Russia coming a close second (14 countries). And this in a poll that did not include countries in the Middle East, who would have likely put us way ahead of Russia.

Okay, they hate us. So what's new?

At the press conference announcing the poll results, Brookings scholar Philip Gordon offered an anecdote to sum up exactly why this latest piece of data is far more worrisome than previous surveys tracking our plummeting global image. For the past decade, Gordon has asked each new batch of 150 international students who take his international relations course at a French business institute the same two questions. First, how do you feel about U.S. power? Perhaps predictably, they always give the thumbs down to the United States and the thumbs up to multilateralism. But when he follows up with the next question -- what country other than the United States has more responsibly wielded global power in the past, or could do so in the future? -- they invariably come to the same conclusion: better America than anyone else.

But not this year. While the resentment of U.S. power and domination was the same as ever, according to Gordon, the students were no longer willing to give the United States its usual pass for its excesses. What's more, they were only too happy to contemplate the alternatives that Gordon offered. "And they would say, yeah, we'd take China. Germany? Yeah, Germany is fine. France? Yeah, that would be good," he said. "They were looking at me like, well, of course, we'd rather have those countries more powerful than the United States."

The most astonishing fact revealed by the new poll is that 34 percent of Americans agree that Europe should be running the show. Let me repeat this: one-third of Americans want Brussels, not Washington, to be calling the shots on the global arena. This trend is a good bit more significant than the six-fold increase in traffic to the Canadian immigration website immediately after the November elections. It buttresses the findings of previous polls that have shown clear majorities of Americans dissatisfied with U.S. unilateralism (and a much higher rate of disapproval of U.S. foreign policy in other countries).

Taken together, such poll results challenge neo-con Robert Kagan's self-congratulatory thesis that Americans are from Mars and Europeans from Venus. While the current American leadership certainly has a martial disposition, it seems that virtually everyone else -- the majority of Americans included -- is weary of Washington playing globo-cop and would be far happier as citizens of much-maligned Venus.


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John Feffer is working on a book about food and politics.

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We don't hate Americans
Posted by: Poederbach on Apr 14, 2005 3:27 AM   
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We Europeans don't hate Americans, we just dislike/don't agree with your government and the 50% of the American electorate that elected that government.

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Barbara
Posted by: Barbara on Apr 14, 2005 3:59 AM   
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I live in Australia, with European parents and growing up in a very European community. I wonder how many Australians would vote for Europe, over the USA. A percentage higher than 35%, I would guess.

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Expat in Sweden
Posted by: jrculshaw on Apr 14, 2005 5:18 AM   
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I have been living in Sweden for the past seven years. The sentiment here is echoed by the entry above. I feel the author has nailed America's reputation problem right on the head. Life here, in Europe, is more "sane" and feels a bit more holistic -- even though with each passing year here the mentality of U.S.-bred mindless consumerism becomes more prevelant, the Europeans are just smarter at identifying long term ill-effects of such a mindset and are much more adaptable at trying to rid itself of the ill-effects -- even if the bottom-line suffers. That willingness to put human needs before profits is what makes me admire the Swedes, and the E.U. in general.

Since the Author is writing a book on food/economics, I would like to relate a revelation that I came upon on a recent trip back "home" in the U.S. There is one very prominent difference between grocery shopping here, in Europe, and in the U.S. and that is it is incredibly difficult to cook from "scratch". Markets here offer more raw, basic ingredients to meals whereas in the States, it is almost impossible to find something that is *not* already, pre-processed, or half-made for you. That, and the aisles upon aisles of shit that Americans put in their mouths.

I am saddend by what my country has become and I dream of a day when American wakes up and realizes that chasing that bottom-line is going to decrease the quality of life not only in the U.S., but the whole world.

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Canadian Fears
Posted by: Graham on Apr 14, 2005 5:22 AM   
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I can't say I'm surprised... I'm in Canada, and I don't think it's a secret that a lot of Canadians fear the United States. Not the people or the place, but the politics and the power. If i weren't so committed to this place, I'd move to the EU in a heartbeat. ...maybe we can just move all of Canada. Stick it on the edge of portugal or something. At any rate, i'd much rather have a few Euros in my pocket than some US$, which may be the case eventually if Canada's resources vs. sovereignty looks appetizing enough to enterprising followers of the Munroe Doctrine.

We may sound snooty and clever in how we bash America here, but I'd say it's just to hide the real fears of being annexed culturally, economically, and politically. We're not just dissatisfied with American leadership, we're scared of it.

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OSCAR59
Posted by: oscar59 on Apr 14, 2005 5:40 AM   
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People around the world have to realize that we have a deeply divided U.S. and that the policies of the Bush Administration are not meant to create bipartisanship and multilateralism, but conflict, isolation, and controversy. The good thing about the American system is that the damage can be undone by just one good administration. If the EU has earned the right to lead on the international stage, and I believe they have, they have to express their views strongly, stand up for their views, and not waver under American pressure.

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It's the truth
Posted by: tikicat on Apr 14, 2005 6:42 AM   
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I'm not surprised at all by this survey. I'm an American and even I'm getting sick and tired of the currrent government and how it runs foregin policy. May the European countries come together and become a force to be reckoned with.

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Reversing the Enlightenment
Posted by: spaghetti happens on Apr 14, 2005 6:51 AM   
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I think we could add to Mr. Feffer's list of America's failures the current trend away from our universally respected liberal democratic ideals toward the kind of theocracy abjured by European nations, who learned their lesson the hard way back in the 16th and 17th centuries.

Our Constitution guarantees one kind of religion--the civic kind--but movements like Christian Reconstructionism and its variants threaten to replace 200 years of enlightened democratic governance with a Bible-based political system that would be a lot more John Calvin than John Locke.

Instead of learning from the tragedies of our European forebears, we insist on repeating them. Our cousins across the pond must be shaking their heads in disbelief, along with our own Founders, who must be spinning in their graves.

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Try being stuck as a blue-state American
Posted by: cyclone2525 on Apr 14, 2005 6:54 AM   
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Unfortunately, I'm not in the financial or family position to move to a new country, although as a proud blue-state Minnesotan, Canada is only a few hours away and oh so tempting. Please remember, all of you non-Americans, half of our citizens dislike our government way more than any of you ever will as we're the ones who directly have to live with the negative consequences of the decisions half of our citizens made. We suffer every day thanks to the wonderful (sarcasm) policies that our government has instituted since 2000. As someone working in the environmental field, I spend every time wondering if I'm wasting my time trying to conserve resources that our gov't is trying to destroy at record paces. Please don't give up on America, remember those of us who struggle for better living conditions here.

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Blue and red hate each other
Posted by: lamar on Apr 14, 2005 7:12 AM   
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I'm not surprised that many Europeans hate us. A large percentage of the United States hates us! The Christian right has caused this country to split into entrenched camps and there is very little tolerance anywhere.

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olliesmom
Posted by: olliesmom on Apr 14, 2005 7:28 AM   
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I am not surprised at the statistics. I was part of the 49% fighting to keep GW and his cronies from another four years of destroying America. I was shocked back in November that voters chose to let him continue making us look like idiots in the eyes of sane people everywhere. I am embarrassed and sad that my grandsons will never know the peace, prosperity and pride in our country that I grew up with. It is time for a regime change, certainly at home, and inevitably as we lose face in the world.

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Is there more to the Beef story?
Posted by: MsCasey on Apr 14, 2005 7:45 AM   
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Current news on MSN is that USDA (Dept of Agriculture) has been making sure that testing did not find evidence of mad-cow disease in US beef. A veterinarian with a conscience is finally speaking out. How will this factor into the EU - US fight at WTO over exports of US beef? It certainly won't improve the world opinion or trust of the USA. Another recent global almost-catastrophe is the shipping of mis-labelled flu virus. Apart from the use of global military power, there are many reasons why US has fallen off the pedestal.

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America doesn't want Bush either!
Posted by: mendomama on Apr 14, 2005 7:50 AM   
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First of all, if Hillary ends up in the White House, then I am out of here. She's about as much a democrat as I am a republican! I don't blame Europe and the rest of the world for their opinions - I share them. I'm disgusted by this government. I'm disgusted with this self-righteous, bible toting, holier than thou attitude that is the center of this administration. Seperation of church and state, my ass! If another politician quotes the bible in order to support their hideous agenda, my head will explode!

Meanwhile, though 50% of Americans voted for Bush, his approval rating is far lower than the percentage that (supposedly) voted for him. Just the damage he's causing in our own country ought to be enough to impeach the jerk, unfortunately, it seems the ones in the position to point this out have somehow misplaced their spine. Hillary included.

Once you add what has been shoved on to the rest of the world, the punishment should go beyond impeachment, I want to see jail time. Depraved indifference. That's what he should be charged with. He's followed his own agenda with no concern for the citizens he represents, nor the ones he imposes on. Countless lives have been lost by his irresponsibility. He's not the only one in the administration that deserves to be punished - he's just at the top of the list.

I'm mortified at the thought that people around the world might think that we, as Americans, support this evil doer (as he so loosely describes anyone who has something he wants). If war is hell, then Bush is Satan.

Whoever is in charge next time around, I hope they look to Europe as a model of what we should be striving for. They are standing up for the well being of their citizens. While the U.S. government is shamefully jamming their pockets with money from corporations, that have been made rich at the expense of our health, our environment, and OUR HARD WORK! Meanwhile, more and more jobs leave our country, more and more young soldiers leave our country, soon, the citizens will follow.

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America doesn't want Bush either! PT. 2
Posted by: mendomama on Apr 14, 2005 7:50 AM   
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No president has a right to run a country into the ground for his own personal gain. But, that's what's happening. I've signed more impeachment petitions than I can count. I've signed petitions to obtain the ACTUAL results of the elections Bush didn't win. Nothing! I've been to protests, protests against the war, against Bush, for the environment. And I know I'm not the only one, so why is it that there isn't just a constant stream of dissent and ridicule, so loud that it could be heard in space? Why is it that he is still in power? Getting a blow job by ONE PERSON is an impeachable offense, but screwing EVERYONE in the ass isn't?

Now, people are afraid. Afraid to speak out. Who's listening? How many people are being held, without due process, as supposed terrorists? A word that's definition has begun to include anyone who doesn't support the WAR ON TERROR! I've said it many times before, and I'll say it again, Bush is the biggest terrorist of them all!

He's butchered our Constitution and Bill of Rights, using the Patriot Act to slaughter the rights of the citizens he's paid to protect. We're a country of the people, for the people, and by the people - so, COME ON PEOPLE! Assert your rights, before you lose them.

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U.S. Foreign Policy
Posted by: josephefahy on Apr 14, 2005 8:18 AM   
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The foreign policy of the U.S. , the real reason the rest of the world fears/hates us, is independent of the two political parties that pretend to be different.

Examine Appendix II of William Blum's "Killing Hope U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II, " pages 454-462; from 1831 to 1945 the Democrats have used the U.S. Armed Forces abroad 75 times, the Republicans 67 times.

Examine Appendix III "U.S. Government Assassination Plots",pages 463-464; the number of plots under Democrats had 20 and the GOP 25.

There is no substantial difference. Corporate governance of the U.S. would not allow that.

William Engdahl's book "Century of War", cuts to the heart of what drives this nonsense, Money and the confused notion of the ruled that the rulers are just like us. They rulers are not just like us, they never have been and never will. We are just the means to their ends.

Above when I use Democrat or Republican, I am referring to the party controlling the Executive branch. I plan on mapping the majority Legislative party on the data.

Have a nice day
Joe Fahy

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UNBALLANCED GOVT. ITS TIME TO STOP, BUSH PLEASE LISTEN!!!
Posted by: WONDERWALEYE on Apr 14, 2005 8:29 AM   
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Congress is not ballanced so therefore we no longer have the check and ballance that is needed to protect our way of life. That is why the president is able to get away with anything he wants as he also belongs to the strongest side.
We did'nt really have any choice in the last election as it was a vote for the lessor of the two evils. Bush was a failure in the oil business and he carries the same to his position as pres. Don't get me wrong, I voted for Bush each time. The BIBLE SAYS: That the leaders reflect the folks of the country!! It was a hope that he might bring some moral's to gov. but that does'nt seem to have happened. This is now a real scarry world and our countries security is getting worse by the day. If we where really attacked, who would come to our aid?? Mexico on one side and Canada on the other. Canada has stated that they think our pres. is crazy!! We must PRAY TO GOD that HE sends us a leader that will restore our gov. We don't belong in Iraq's politics or it's evil muslum religion!! We can no longer concure and rule!! So what are we doing there, unless to keep the terroists busy so that they don't spread out!! If we really want security we will work on goodwill and not as a bully!! MAY THE LOVE OF JESUS BE WITH YOU!! [this has two meanings]

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Food politics as well.
Posted by: Turtle1397 on Apr 14, 2005 9:06 AM   
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This article really hits the nail on the head. I find that more and more people I know that actually have a political conscience look towards Europe as a positive example. The article mentions the GMO Beef, but what about food labeling and ingredients like partially hydrogenated soybean oil? In Europe they did studies that found this ingredient dangerous, and so now they don't use it in their food. In the US they did studies and hired Public Relations firms and lawyers. Again one can see the trend of America being corporate and industry friendly, while Europe actually seems to care about their people.

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Why do people insist on making it about religion?
Posted by: mendomama on Apr 14, 2005 9:30 AM   
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Religion, in and of itself, is not evil. People using God, in whatever form, as a way to portray themselves as more righteous than another, sickens me. It gives God a bad name. I'm not affiliated with any religion, but have respect for all. Not all religious people are good, and not all good people are religious. In a country supposedly not affiliated with any specific religion, and in Christianity, supposedly a religion that leaves the judging to God, people sure seem to have things ass-backwards. This isn't about religion, it's about one group of people trying to push their version of morality on the rest of us. So, why do people insist on making it about religion?

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A New Direction
Posted by: Wacre on Apr 14, 2005 9:39 AM   
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I don't by any means think that European leadership, as opposed to American leadership, is a panacea by any means to the problems of the world.

But at the same time, the current madness of the Bush Administration makes my ache for a bipolar world; some other power to counter-balance American tendencies toward aggression and violence.

With the Soviet Union dissolved and in disarray, a counterbalance is needed. Luckily we have India, China and the European Union on the horizon.

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Europe isn't really an alternative to the United States
Posted by: Michelle on Apr 14, 2005 11:13 AM   
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Okay, let's try to remember something: The United States is the child of Europe. Europe is the source of widespread imperialism both directly and indirectly.

European control/power is not a real alternative to U.S. control/power. It is substituting one messed-up thing for another. If the changes ahead merely yield more global power for Europe, the evil is alive and kicking.

I just mentioned this bulls** illusion of Europe as a real alternative to U.S. power last night in a conversation, and then I check alternet and here it is.

Please, please, no. The need is to stop the Euro-white people from having what we define as power in relation to other nations. Transferring from one kind of arrogant evil imperialism to another .... I have such a sinking feeling.

Please, let that not be the outcome of the change. We white people are like some sort of persistent cancer. Please, we need to let it go and admit that our life ways don't work, they never worked for human well-being, and insiders within the Euro-white cultural system are not culturally competent to have any power on a global scale. Please.

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Pax Europa???
Posted by: BLULIFE on Apr 14, 2005 11:16 AM   
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I don't know how to feel in terms of our demise as a great power. The historical arguements made by the other posts are truly valid. I feel that our young people and those unborn will pay the highest price for this administration's mistakes. Here in my red state of Georgia, they argue about evolution. I wonder do school children in Russia, China, Japan, EU, and India spend so much time debating the obvious. I believe in both evolution and God. But as a country we've ventured off the path of what is important. I think the other great powers must be laughing as we spend billions on these wars that really aren't changing anything, but rather making things worse. The EU and others can invest their money into their infrastructure, R&D, etc. I think America is devolving and not focussing on the things that matter and would make us competitive.

It is no suprise that the EU is on the rise and ready to take the lead. America has faltered and decided to chase non-secular notions that has historically always made us strong. I feel Bush should go and our foriegn policy is a mess. Our government is scary and is run by religious nuts that are hypocritical and uncaring about the outside world.

Clark - Publisher of BLULIFE.COM

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Not my Amerika
Posted by: jwg on Apr 14, 2005 11:40 AM   
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Lately I have been really depressed about the state of affairs in America. But just seeing the comments of my fellow citizens gives me some hope. After 60 years of life and seeing all the changes both good and bad I am reminded that politics is a pendulum and the majority of Americans are centrists and fear either end of the spectrum. This too will pass.
The entire world needs to visulize this blue marble from space, tolerance of others is a necessity. I really would like to return to the days when my father told me to remember that 'my rights end before your nose begins'.

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European Problems
Posted by: Campesino on Apr 14, 2005 11:41 AM   
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Interesting that this article on European triumphalism makes absolutely no mention of the demographic collapse in most of the EU nations. Their populations are not replacing themselves and the only source of new labor appears to be immigrants from Muslim countries. Or that these immigrants are not being assimilated into the local cultures. In France, for example, most of them are segregated into industrial suburbs that are hotbeds of gang violence and radical violent Islamist activities. Google some news about the mass demonstrations and strife in France over whether Muslim girls can wear headscarves in school.

Some projections have a majority Muslim population in Europe within 50 years. Given the history of government in the countries these people came from and the current climate of radical Islamism in the European Muslim population, what do you really think the EU governments will look and act like under those circumstances. Sorry, but the people cited as experts in the l