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Terri Schiavo Is Dead ... And What Remains

By David Corn, DavidCorn.com. Posted March 31, 2005.


I don't think we should forget how certain scoundrels crassly exploited this family conflict.
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Terri Schiavo is dead. Whatever happens in death—resting in peace, meeting one's maker, or nothing—has now happened for her. I hope her family members—on both sides—can find their peace. I hope her husband is not hounded or hunted by extremists. I hope her blood relatives can move on. But I don't think we should forget how certain scoundrels crassly exploited this family conflict. No doubt, some of the supporters of Schiavo's parents were moved by sincere concerns and principles. But the motives of the politicians and crusaders who rushed in can be called into question. I did a roundup of the hypocrisy a few days ago, and Tom DeLay, of course, was included. But I did not bash him for playing God, which is what he did yesterday. Responding to the news report that DeLay and his family withheld life-sustaining care from his father when he was in a coma, DeLay said, "My father was on life support and dying. Schiavo is living and wants to live."

Wants to live? How did DeLay know that? Does he possess insight or psychic powers unknown to the rest of us? The Florida courts ruled that she was in a persistent vegetative state (PVS), which would mean she could not consciously resolve to live. DeLay and the parents challenged that diagnosis. Even if they were right and she was in some state shy of PVS, did that mean she wanted to stay alive? Perhaps in such a state she felt unending pain or discomfort. Perhaps she had some degree of consciousness and still did not want to live in this condition. DeLay could not know her true desires. By claiming he did, he was acting far beyond his authority as majority leader of the House of Representatives. He was bullshitting for partisan gain.

Then this morning, shortly after the death of Terri Schiavo, Randall Terry, the antiabortion activist who became one of the many spokespersons for the Schindler family, was crying on television. "It's unthinkable," he said through the tears. "The fact that Terri did not have her family with her [at the moment of her death] ... is unconceivable." Apparently, Michael, her husband, permitted the Schindlers to see Terri ten or so minutes before her death, but Michael did not let them stay in the room beyond that point. Without knowing all the details, I can only say that it seems unfortunate that Michael Schiavo would not allow the Schindlers to remain at Terri's side. But I find it hard to take Terry's tears seriously. This is a fellow who preaches (his versions of) family values but who was booted out of his church for having an affair and leaving his wife. He also rejected his daughter for being a lesbian. Yet now he cries for the plight of another family, and as he does so he demonizes Michael, suggesting Michael could not bother to be with Terri at the time of his death: "I don't think Michael would leave his common-law wife, come in there and have much grief for Terri." (Friends of Michael say he was with Terri when she died.) So the guy who broke up his own family questions the commitment of a man who could have walked away from his brain-damaged wife and dumped her on her family years ago but who stayed involved for years (and who at first spent years trying to find her effective treatments and therapies). Can you say chutzpah?


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David Corn is the Washington editor of The Nation and author of "The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception." He writes a blog at davidcorn.com.

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Let me die!
Posted by: Granny on Mar 31, 2005 9:58 AM   
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I'm getting a Living Will completed this week, and assigning a medical surrogate to ensure that my dying can never be used in such a political circus. I'm also going to search out every politician who took part in this farce and make sure I never vote for one of those slimey things again.

If my deity wants to call me home, I surely don't want a bunch of politicians and doctors standing in my way.

What scares me the most is the idea that once we let the political slimeballs into this arena in the least degree, they will try to take it over completely.

Does anyone else see the irony of a president sending so many of our young people into harm's way, then getting his knickers in a twist over a woman who has been brain dead for fifteen years?
Granny A.

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David Corn's Analysis
Posted by: akumal on Mar 31, 2005 10:37 AM   
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I applaud Mr. Corn for his clear, hypocrisy - shattering statements.

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Mr Corn's Analysis
Posted by: phtimo on Mar 31, 2005 10:50 AM   
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100% right on target on all matters.
this is by far the most true to the fact view I have been
reading in days ...
good thinking and good job.

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American Taliban
Posted by: rdp on Mar 31, 2005 10:50 AM   
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How stupid the Right Wing Christians must think people are. Terri's parents and their advisers -- so-called "spiritual advisers" -- could never comment on her condition without the cloying whine they put on to let us know they see Michael Shaivo as a heartless demon. Did they think we didn't see the manipulation they were attempting? The right wing politicians too -- but don't get me started. So here's MY attempt at a manipulative comment. If we ever want an American Taliban, we've watched them auditioning their hatefulness during the last few weeks in Florida.
Can you imagine what a mean-spirited society it will be if that group continues to expand its influence? God save us from the self-righteous moralists who want to run things their way. --rdp

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Mike Schiavo's Next Move
Posted by: LeeOfTampa on Mar 31, 2005 10:56 AM   
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He needs to assemble a lawsuit against Pres. Bush, Gov. Jeb, and Sen. "Sell Out" Martinez. They have endagered his life and I'm certain there are grounds for defemation.

Its a shame that the REAL issue - euthanasia - completely slipped out of the discussion.

I'm glad its over, and I hope the next nation or 'target' Dubya goes after can remind him of what he said, "We should always err on the side of life."

Where the he|| was this passion when the hawks in this country called for the invasion of the soverign nation of Iraq? Where is the outrage at the 130,000 dead Iraqis, almost 2,000 dead US soldiers - the unnacounted dead contractors, and the 40,000 injured soldiers?

Hypochristianity is our biggest enemy.

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Thank you, David
Posted by: aptal on Mar 31, 2005 10:57 AM   
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Thank you, David Corn, for stating this as clearly as you have. I have personally been involved in a public argument about these unfortunate events, and have thus encountered the unreasoning rage of the extremists who have exploited Terri and her parents. It simply doesn't matter to them that several medical scientists diagnosed Terri as having zero brain activity above the brain stem. It simply doesn't matter to them that everything making Terri who she was died 15 years ago. They have an emotional issue they can exploit -- make political points with -- grandstand in front of cameras with -- and they will use it to the fullest. This is cynicism at an incredible level, and, unfortunately, we probably haven't seen the last of it. I hope Terri's family can find peace now, outside the circus the Radical Right created around their daughter.

And Reverend Jackson: What are you doing in there?

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Right on Mr. Corn!
Posted by: whaddah on Mar 31, 2005 11:08 AM   
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I wish all those protestors would have chosen to spend their time with a more serious matters like saving hungry, homeless, abusive and troubled people/children, not only in the US but in other countries around the world. Or better yet, mind your own business.

How insane and sick that we let such a personal family matter go this far...only in America!

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Gay son, not gay daughter
Posted by: ryans247 on Mar 31, 2005 11:08 AM   
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Randall Terry rejected his gay son, not his gay daughter. That was Alan Keyes.

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right to die
Posted by: dk on Mar 31, 2005 11:13 AM   
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this a total sham and these parents totally manipulated at the end. We all know that Jesse Jackson goes where the cameras go and all the professional protestors do as well but what about all the people that manipulated her parents. They should have the same fate as Terri did.
And then there is the pope. He has a trach and a feeding tube but feels that he only wants 'natural' events to take their course. HELLLLOOOOOO. What in hell is natural about a trach and feeding tube at all? Wake up and smell the coffee. Oops, I forgot that with a trach you can't smell at all.
Be sure you have a living will AND be sure that you have someone who will carry out your wishes. I can tell you as a nurse, that family members and doctors don't always carry out the person's wishes so be sure that there is someone on your side who will. And the hell with everyone else.

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» RE: right to die Posted by: gypsy55
Wow
Posted by: xepath on Mar 31, 2005 11:15 AM   
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Michael Schiavo should have let the parents take Teri a long time ago, they were her parents, let them take care of her, if she really did not know what was going on then what would it have mattered?
He was very selfish in not letting her own parents in there when she passed away, it is unthinkable.
And really starving her to death was the only option? Why not give her an overdose so she could just die quickly. Why would that be murder? How about starving someone to death? How can that be better.
I would not want to live in that state either, but I would hope that they would come up with a better way that to just let me starve to death. I am getting a living will tomorrow.
Personally I would hope that if I had not given instructions on how I would want to live or die, that someone would let my parents decide not a spouse that had remarried. The whole thing makes me sick. I hope Michael Schiavo never gets a peaceful day ever. And I am not religious.

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Terri
Posted by: JennaD on Mar 31, 2005 11:19 AM   
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After all the lies and hypocrisy we've experienced throughout this ordeal, it was a pleasure to read Mr. Corn. It has been heartbreaking to see the pain and conflict between the Schiavos and the Schindlers. But it has been equally heartbreaking to see the vile deceit and manipulation of those claiming to represent God and know "His will", when in reality they were doing nothing more than furthering their own agendas. I hope that Americans will begin to see the hypocrisy of these groups and refuse to allow our nation to be terrorized by them any longer. However, in all of this, the problem that took Terri into a PVS has received little attention - that of an eating disorder. Terri, like millions of other women, had a poor self-image based on a societal notion of what she needed to look like to be accepted. Yes, get your living will and DNR ASAP. But also make sure that no other person EVER feels the need to result to such drastic measures for societal acceptance.

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Mea culpa from Corn
Posted by: DavidCorn on Mar 31, 2005 11:31 AM   
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Sorry, that's right. Randall Terry rejected his son because of his son's homosexuality. I believe he had a falling out with his daughter over other matters.

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Death by disgust
Posted by: zeno on Mar 31, 2005 11:30 AM   
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Wolf Blitzer [CNN] at noon stated " Terry Shiavo died at 9:05 am EST - but that the exact cause of death is not known". She died from disgust with a society that made a circus out of her suffering - but which thank God at least had a legal system which respected her right to die with dignity-although it would take her resurrection to get it across to the Catholic Church ( and the over-zealous Christian right) that she'd have preferred euthanasia. And now what? A Cardinal calls it murder? This was God's will: to show her mercy.
If US citizens and politicians demanded as much reverence and due process for "the sanctity of life" for each of the 1500 healthy soldiers who have died in Iraq on the basis of the George W.Bush cabal's rush to war under false pretences - we might begin to believe our claim to humanity. We have a long way to go before visionaries like Dr.Kevorkian show us the way - instead we jail him like we crucified Christ.

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Terri Shiavo
Posted by: myoujou on Mar 31, 2005 11:44 AM   
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With so many medical uncertanities, did she have any awareness? if no, how does anyone know for sure? what if she was somehow "aware" of what was going on? What about the role of the media? Were the facts reported accurately? And the politicians? Do any of them not have ulterior motives for political gain?? My heart goes out to her family and loved ones.... to her parents for their loss.....
At the same time, Terri's situation has nothing to do with the war in Iraq. Regardless of our personal opinions, remember: our men and women are fighting so you have the freedom to complain and to disagree with our elected officials and not lose your life over it.

This war (a valiant attempt to protect you from future attacks on American soil) has cost us less than 2000 lives. Why not get involved in activities to fight random acts of violence here at home........where more than 2000 lives are lost annually.

As a Nation our priorities need to be re-

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» what? Posted by: sunfairy79
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» What war are you talking about? Posted by: lyle-tate
» RE: Terri Shiavo Posted by: caitlin
Reply to "WOW" by xepath
Posted by: Blackpixie on Mar 31, 2005 1:57 PM   
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It's obvious you know nothing about Michael Schiavo. I guess you were not aware that after his wife's incident, he tried getting help for her - medical, physical, etc FOR 7 YEARS! He then decides that there is nothing that can be done for the woman he loved but to pull the feeding tube.

If you have ever experienced ANYONE strapped to a bed for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year only to be fed through a tube with no bodily functions to flush yourself out but to have nurses "dig" it out, then that's what life is to you ? You have to be fed, you have to wear a diaper, you may have to endure possible abuse from nurses. Why would you let your mom, your daughter, your son, your father live that kind of life ? Oh right, it must be because of selfish people like yourself who hold on - hold on for nothing.

I hope you will never have to experience any of it. Michael Schiavo did what he did out of love for Terri. Why let her go on suffering ? WHY?

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» RE: You're Right Blackpixie Posted by: SMS1999
May she rest in peace
Posted by: fizzio on Mar 31, 2005 2:53 PM   
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First of all, this whole debacle with the right wing fanatics brought to mind the shenanigans over Elain Gonzalez. What is it with Florida anyway?

But back to Teresa Shiavo and the end to her "suffering". Nursing homes are not the safest place for women, old and young. A cousin who had a rare degenerative nerve disease that made her incapable of moving or even speaking ended up pregnant while in a nursing home. They quietly gave her an abortion and fired the staff member responsible. I can only imagine what she might have went through considering that she had her mental faculties at the time. There are many more cases of nursing home abuse and luckily for Shiavo she had her husband looking out for her to the end.

It's not quantity but quality of life and those people who wanted to keep her "alive" should ask themselves if in a similar state would they want to merely "exist"? Yes, err on the side of life where there is life.

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There is no right in this case
Posted by: elmysterio on Mar 31, 2005 3:14 PM   
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There is no right in this case... only wrong. The way this poor woman's plight has been politicized is disgusting. The way everyone has an opinion on it is disgusting. NOBODY knows what this family was going through. NOBODY really knows how Terry felt. It's very tragic. The way the "right" grabbed onto the whole "right to life" issue of it makes me sick. The way the "left" opposed it all just because the "right" supported it was wrong. Now that poor Terry has passed away, we should just leave both sides of the family alone... but what a way to go... dehydrate the poor woman to death. And what about the the parents? If woman is married, does that make it so her parents have no say in her care if she's seriously injured/disabled? If her husband didn't want to care for her anymore, then he should have just stepped back and given "guardianship" to her parents and carried on with his life. Ah the whole thing is stupid anyways and most of the comments are so ignorant

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No one cares.
Posted by: mikedilger on Mar 31, 2005 6:34 PM   
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No really. We don't give a crap! This Schivio woman/vegetable living outside of our lives? We don't care. This story is entirely irrelevant to anything personal or political, and it has no effect on anyone outside of that small circle of family and friends. Keep your eyes on the watch, you are getting sleepy, you don't give a damn about this woman or vegetable that stopped eating. You will ignore all future articles about this meaningless gibberish. You will vote libertarian. You can wake up now.

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» I totally disagree. Posted by: cardboardurinal
Mr. Corn's article
Posted by: jasbinsek on Mar 31, 2005 8:26 PM   
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A decently written composition Mr. Corn, but so what? Your article is as biased as all the rhetoric you slam. How profound! How many articles from both politically motivated sides of this issue do we really need? 1? 100? 100,000? As if the soul searching of "journalistic experts" means anything on this issue. I am against the actions taken by congress and the president to interfere with this life, but does anyone really believe - even for one moment - that the Democrats are not going to try to capitalize on this either? Surely the average AlterNet.com reader is not so naive...
The problem with articles/commentary like this one is that NOTHING IS SAID, except blah blah blah...

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Hey! Ho! DeLay has got to go!
Posted by: Michael Turnauer, Vancouver,WA on Mar 31, 2005 10:26 PM   
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Indeed, Mr. Corn, we should not soon forget the misdeeds committed by this poliitical skank. Two things that we as concerned citizens can do:

1) Write your representative of Congress. Urge him/her to pressure DeLay to resign or face impeachment. The political pressure can reach critical mass if we persist.

2) Write to DeLay's constituents by way of Houston's daily newspapers. Let them know that the patent corruption of their Representative is renowned nationwide. Anything that we can do to keep him on his oily heels.

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Typical Dogmatic Lefties
Posted by: Beba on Mar 31, 2005 10:33 PM   
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How disgusted I am today to call myself a "progressive," when so many of us have been dogmatically and stubbornly crying out for the state sanctioned murder of this woman--who's crime is that she is mentally disabled. Yes folks, she is not on "life support," she was on a feeding tube, kind of like the Pope or maybe someone's grandmother who's got pneumonia. She was not on a breathing machine. The fact is, this is not a cut and dry case and it never has been. The court appointed panel did not unanimously feel she was in a persistent vegetative state--3 out of 5 did. Furthermore, it is very difficult to absolutely prove that someone is in a vegetative state. In fact, according to Nat Henhoff's interview this morning on democracynow, which you ignorant loodthirsty idiots should read, "at least 35 neurologists and radiologists who have done more than read the newspapers have said, “Hey, this woman is not in a P.V.S.(Pesistent Vegetative State)” to be continued...

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» Who decides? Posted by: jam
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Typical Dogmatic Lefties pt. 2
Posted by: Beba on Mar 31, 2005 10:35 PM   
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Furthermore, according to FL, in order to "pull the plug" you have to prove that their is absolutely no cognition at all. In other words, before you starve someone to death, at least have the moral decency to a)be completely sure she is a "vegetable"(a term I find abhorrent and offensive) and b)have enough proof that she would not have wanted her life extended. And that is not even sure because there were varying accounts of what Terry had actually said and believed.
But, none of you probably paid attention to the actual details of the case, did you? You were too busy being pissed off about the Bushies and the prolifers to think clearly, rationally and ABOVE ALL ELSE, HUMANELY.
This is exactly what's wrong with so many of us on the left. You let them set the agenda. To be continued..

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Typical Dogmatic Lefties pt.3
Posted by: Beba on Mar 31, 2005 10:38 PM   
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Oh, well let's see the crazy Christians are on that side, let's get all pissed off and indignant about their hypocrisy. You guys don't like those redneck dumbasses anyway, right? You elitist idiots. That's why the Democrats continue to lose votes among working class folks, who are, guess what, more religious and more socially conservative. It's because you supposedly liberal guys look down on these folks, to the point of laughing at a vegetable and calling for her execution.
Oh and by the way, before one of you--surely white, surely well educated, secular and well bred idiots respond--Oh she's probably one of them red-staters--Let me just add that I am in fact a blue stater, with a Master's, an atheist and a socialist. The difference, however, is that I do not let my anger and my snobbery get in the way of good judgement.

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» RE: Typical Dogmatic Lefties pt.3 Posted by: cardboardurinal
Dante knew Tom Delay
Posted by: jam on Mar 31, 2005 11:40 PM   
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In Dante's Hell, the fifth ditch is reserved for the politically corrupt and for hypocrites -- dressed in religious garb. If there is a better place for Tom Delay, I can't imagine where it is, except maybe the GOP. Mr. Delay is a man whose head is so far up his colon, he will never have need of a feeding tube.

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Where is the consistency?
Posted by: zoezo on Mar 31, 2005 11:43 PM   
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All I would like to add is I think there needs to be some consistency on the side of the Republicans. I am pro-choice and against the death penalty. How can the republicans claim to celebrate a culture of life when they are the true supporters of the death penalty? That clearly is not a culture of life. Although I cannot stand the crazy religous Christians at least if they have their anti-abortion morals can they not be consistant and oppose the death penalty.
On another note, who defines what life is? Is "living", rather existing in a vegetative state even really life at all? How do we not know the day Terri went into a coma her life was over? Not only was she not able to do anything on her own she wasn't even able to stay alive without the feeding tube and call me nuts that that seems like a false life and almost the same as already being dead.

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CAN WE JAM THE RIGHT WING ON THIS ONE?
Posted by: No BS on Apr 1, 2005 5:41 AM   
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If upwards of 80% of us--including Born-Agains and other "religious" types--disagree with the congressional and presidential intrusions in Schiavo, is this not an opportunity for those of us in (what usually seems unfamiliar these days) a MAJORITY to organize around stopping the religious tryanny that is running us? As David Dinkins, the former mayor of New York, used to put it, "we are all TEMPORARILY able-bodied." It's easier now than ever to picture ourselves in Terry's predicament, and most of us would demand a disconnect if we were there. Maybe we can take advantage of our broad consensus. And by the way--whatever your last wishes may be about end-of-life--PUT THEM IN WRITING. Like, NOW!

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Article on "Terri Schiavo is dead"
Posted by: Pepper on Apr 1, 2005 6:52 AM   
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I am appalled at your cavalier attitude to what the evidence shows in this case. You obviously didn't review all the affidavits filed.

I AM NOT A RELIGIOUS RIGHT WING FANATIC.

This was about a "system" supported Abuser wife murderer . The affidavits & ex-rays proved there was evidence of previous abuse and damage to her neck documented and sworn to by an expert physcian.

The affidavits from workers who had quit at the hospice PROVE his continued abuse for the whole 15 years of this fiasco. Only after $award did he say she wanted to die (7 years later).

The politicians ignore court orders all the time: See Cheney case on Energy policy with no compliance.

Get a clue. WE now have "ASSISTED WIFE ABUSE & MURDER BY THE STATE"

You never mentioned that both Felos and Judge Greer are members of the same hemlock society: death is their preoccupation; its a conflict of interest. They shouldn'

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permit feeding by mouth
Posted by: pmekl on Apr 1, 2005 9:48 AM   
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What logic made the judge prohibit an attempt to provide nourishment by natural means - and even to prohibit the feeding of a small communion wafer by a priest? If Terri had not been able to swallow, she would have aspirated rather than slowly starving to death. Removal of the feeding tube stopped artificial sustenance of life. Prohibition of natural food and water was cruel and unnecessary.

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Terri Schiavo is dead
Posted by: cold2touch on Apr 1, 2005 4:37 PM   
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We are on the roll! Let's pull out the feeding tube to Congress, having determined that they are indisputably brain dead. Let's not waste money on autopsy either.

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Terry
Posted by: Crawfon1 on Apr 4, 2005 1:49 PM   
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To those of you who now plan to make your wishes evident and supported by a written declaration you have the right idea. Terry didn't get a chance to do that. Who among us would really trust a loved one worn down by years of care-giving and void of hope to decide our fate? My mother has been institutionalized for almost eight years after suffering a clinically induced stroke. Coming out of surgery she was diagnosed brain-dead. Summoned to to take her off life support, I refused. She was in a comma for over a month. We had no verbal or written wishes from her. I know she is glad to be alive...she has said as much. I can't say whether Terry's husband did or did not have her consent to what was ultimately decided. Terry's suffering is over and for that we all are relieved. But that is just the point. We all are relieved. May God help her husband if he made the wrong decisio....may God help us all.

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Terry Schiavo
Posted by: lostdoggie on Apr 4, 2005 4:49 PM   
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Am I the only one struck by the hypocacy of the "Retarded Right" when they pass legislation to stop frivolous lawsuits. Then they ignore the laws and the courts records to create action that can only be called frivolous. Adding insult to insult, that great man of moral values, Cheney hints that the judges should be tried for crimes by denying that this option should be used.

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