Feminism is Alive and Well ... Even Sarah Palin Wants to Be One
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GREENE: 1992. But in 1984, many women won in primaries and then lost in the general election cycle. And I think that’s because when voters go in to that voting booth, when women go in to cast those votes, they’re not voting again on reproductive organs. They’re voting on where you stand on our rights, the same set of feminist sentiments. And are you for pro‐equality, as Gloria says? And I think that will be a challenge for many of the conservative women who are trying to tap into the success of Secretary Clinton.
STEINEM: And we need feminist men and we do have feminist men.
COURIC: But there are a lot of women who like conservative women.
COURIC: It’s not as if people who are going to vote are only going to vote for liberal candidates. There are many women out there who relate to and appreciate and applaud the politics of someone like and Carly Fiorina and Sarah Palin and a variety of Republican women.
STEINEM: But it’s not just about biology.
COURIC: No, I’m not saying it is.
STEINEM: No, I know. But those women if they have access to information about the issues and where these women stand, which is squarely against what most women need and want and say they need and want in majority public opinion polls. So if they still vote for them, they’re voting against themselves, which is quite tragic to me.
COURIC: On the other hand I read recently a Gallup poll showed 48% of women identify themselves as prolife. 45% as prochoice.
STEINEM: But this is because of the terms. “Prolife” ‐- what does that mean? We all wear buttons that say, “A woman’s life is a human life.” If you ask the question they way it should be asked, without those confusing terms, which are quite backward, which is: who makes the decision? – a woman and her physician or the government? The huge majority, over 60%, say it should be the woman and the physician, not the government. And that’s the point.
GREENE: They don’t want the government coming into our homes and telling us how we should make a medical decision. I think again it is a branding/marketing issue that has been won in many ways by the prolife movement but it does go deeper into the issue. That’s when you see those shift in the support for prochoice candidates.
COURIC: At some point (just getting back to those candidates) it bothered me when everyone said “you’re the woman” because I thought isn’t true equality viewing them from a prism that evaluates their ideology, their positions, how they feel about certain issues? The fact that they’re male or female, of course it shapes who we are as individuals, but shouldn’t it really be secondary to what they would do in positions of power and what their philosophies are?
STEINEM: Yes, of course. I mean in real life… Race is a fiction. We all came from the same place in Africa and we just got adapted to climate wherever we went. So race is a fiction. Gender is a fiction. So we’re trying to get to the point of shared humanity. Absolutely. That’s the whole idea. So it’s just as important to me and I have worked for male candidates who really were feminists and against female candidates who were not.
Obviously Feminism is Wining, Or Sarah Palin Wouldn't be Calling Herself One
KATIE COURIC: Let me ask you a question somebody asked on Facebook. Jaclyn Koch says on Facebook, “Do [you] think that feminism is still considered a bad word today? I think the term used to really get a bad rap. But today it seems things are beginning to level out.” What say you?