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Meet the Man Who Perversely Argues for Cutting Social Security Benefits to "Take Care of the Lesser People in Society"

Deficit Reduction Commission member Alan Simpson caught in an extraordinarily revealing exchange.

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LAWSON:  But that’s not Social Security that’s increasing the deficit, because it’s still bringing in more money than goes out.

SIMPSON:  The government of the United States has to take separate money out of some stack to get the IOUs out of Social Security, that’s a double hit and that increases the deficit.
LAWSON: But what I’m telling you is Social Security is separate though, from the general budget, right? It’s totally in the green.

SIMPSON:  But it wasn’t. Just four weeks ago, there wasn’t as much coming in as going out.

LAWSON:  Except you’re not calculating the interest paid on the bonds, because, if you do include that, it’s still in the green this year.

SIMPSON:  Well you can go through all the sophistry of babbling that you want to.

LAWSON:  It’s not sophistry. It’s just what the SSA says. So I’m just going on the numbers.

SIMPSON:  You need to read the report of the Social Security Administration, the one that was given to us. Have you got a copy?

LAWSON:  I’d love a copy.

SIMPSON:  I’ll get you that. In fact, I’ll have a guy give that to you. You need to have that. And it’s good for you.

LAWSON:  That would be fantastic. Thanks so much Senator.

Jane Hamsher blogs at firedoglake and the Huffington Post.

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