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10 Signs the Failed Drug War Is Finally Ending
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2009 will go down as the beginning of the end of the United States drug war. I have worked at the Drug Policy Alliance promoting alternatives to the war on drugs for 10 years, and I can say without a doubt that there was more debate and movement toward sensible drug policies this year than in the last 9 years combined! Here are 10 stories that contributed to the unprecedented momentum to end America's longest running war.
1) Three Former Latin American Presidents Call Drug War a Failure (February)
In February, the Latin-American Commission on Drugs and Drug Policy - co-chaired by three distinguished ex-presidents, Fernando Henrique Cardoso of Brazil, Cesar Gaviria of Colombia and Ernesto Zedillo of Mexico -issued a groundbreaking report that declared the drug war a failure. The report further advocated the decriminalization of marijuana and the need to "break the taboo" on an open and honest discussion of international drug policy. The release generated hundreds of articles around the world and continues to be referenced by elected officials in Latin American and around the world.
2) Michael Phelps and the Bong Hit Heard Around the World (February)
The photo of Olympic gold medal-winning swimmer Michael Phelps taking a "bong hit" at a party in South Carolina was plastered across the front pages of newspapers around the world in February. The image of Phelps inhaling marijuana, just a few months after setting a record for most gold medals won in a single Olympics, dealt a powerful blow to the lazy, "couch potato" stereotype of pot users. Kellogg's promptly dropped Phelps as a spokesperson, badly misreading public sentiment. Dozens of columnists slammed Kellogg's for this decision, and a major AP story reported on groups calling for consumers to "Drop Kellogg's" for dumping Phelps. A few weeks later, the advertising trade magazine Ad Age reported that Kellogg's brand favorability had tanked since it dropped Phelps - even more than when the company instituted a massive recall due to a problem with salmonella in its peanut butter.
3) Obama Justice Department Says No More Raids on Patients and Caregivers in States with Medical Marijuana Laws (March)
During his campaign for president, then-Senator Barack Obama promised that if elected, he would end the raids on medical marijuana patients and dispensaries that were acting in compliance with their states' laws. In March, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder affirmed this pledge, and in October the Justice Department issued new policy guidelines codifying the change. Patients and caregivers breathed a sigh of relief, and President Obama received almost universal praise in media around the United States and the world.
4) Drop the Rock! NY's Draconian Rockefeller Drug Laws Finally Reformed (April)
After 35 years, New York's harsh Rockefeller Drug Laws were finally brought down in April, when Gov. David Paterson signed historic reforms eliminating lengthy mandatory minimum sentences for certain nonviolent drug offenses. The reforms, which took effect in October, restored judicial sentencing discretion in most drug cases, expanded alternatives to incarceration and invested millions in drug treatment programs. Advocates who fought for years to secure these reforms are now working to turn New York from a model of everything that is wrong with drug policy to an example of what is possible when we deal with substance abuse as a health matter instead of a criminal justice issue.
5) Governor Arnold Calls for Debate on Legalizing Marijuana: Voters to Decide in 2010 (May)
California is ground zero when it comes to the debate over taxing and regulating marijuana. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger generated national media in May when he said that marijuana legalization is an idea that should be considered and debated. The issue garnered more national attention with the introduction of a bill pending in the California Legislature to tax and regulate marijuana like alcohol. Meanwhile, some Oakland, Calif., activists aren't waiting for their legislature to act; they have drafted a voter initiative to tax and regulate marijuana and are gathering signatures to qualify it for the 2010 ballot. Recent polls show 56% of Californians support taxing and regulating marijuana.
6) Drug Czar Calls for End to the Drug War (May)
White House drug czar Gill Kerlikowske, in an interview with Gary Fields of the Wall Street Journal, called for an "end to the war on drugs." "Regardless of how you try to explain to people it's a 'war on drugs' or a 'war on a product', people see a war as a war on them and we are not at war with people in this country," Kerlikowske told the Journal. He added that the Obama Administration is likely to deal with drugs from a public health perspective rather than as a criminal issue and would favor treatment over incarceration to reduce illicit drug use.
7) Mexico and Argentina Move to Decriminalize Marijuana and other Drugs (August)
Mexico and Argentina both made international news in August with major changes to their drug policies. Mexico, plagued by a devastating, violent drug war, passed a law eliminating criminal penalties for small amounts of drugs -including heroin, cocaine and marijuana -considered to be for personal use. In Argentina, meanwhile, the country's Supreme Court effectively decriminalized personal marijuana possession when it struck down a law that imposed penalties of up to two years in prison for possession of small amounts of marijuana. Ruling in a case involving several young men caught with marijuana cigarettes in their pockets, the court said the government should go after major traffickers and provide treatment instead of jail for marijuana users. Although the court decision dealt only with marijuana, the core arguments apply to other illicit drugs as well, so the ruling could open the door to broader drug law reform in Argentina.
8) The Results Are In: Portugal's Decriminalization Law of 2001 Reduced Transmission of Disease, Cut Overdose Deaths and Incarceration, While Not Increasing Drug Use. (August)
Facing an epidemic of drug-related overdose deaths and disease transmission from dirty needles, the Portugal government took a bold step in 2001 and decriminalized the personal use and possession of all drugs, including heroin and cocaine. The police were told not to arrest anyone found taking any kind of drug. In 2009, the results of Portugal's decriminalization were released, and the results were striking: Drug-related problems, including the transmission of diseases, deaths from drug overdoses and incarceration, all decreased dramatically, while drug use did not go up. Portugal's experience is instructive; it showed the world that the sky did not fall with decriminalization and took the debate from theory to practice.
9) Coming Out of the Closet: "Stiletto Stoners" Explain Why They Like Marijuana (September)
Need more evidence that marijuana has gone mainstream in America? On the Today Show in September, Matt Lauer did a piece on so-called stiletto stoners -- educated, professional women with killer careers and enviable social lives who favor marijuana as their intoxicant of choice and are increasingly comfortable admitting it. The TV piece drew its inspiration from an article titled "Stiletto Stoners" in the September issue of Marie Claire Magazine. The story raised the question: Why are so many smart, successful women lighting up in their off hours? The sympathetic article and TV piece feature interviews with a wide range of successful women who wind down at the end of the day with a joint instead of a martini.
10) The Marijuana Legalization Debate Hits the Mainstream (Fall )
Emblazoned on the cover of the September issue of Fortune Magazine was a photo of actress Mary Louise Parker, star of the popular Showtime hit series Weeds, teasing the lead story: "How Marijuana Became Legal: Medical Marijuana Is Giving Activists a Chance to Show How a Legitimized Pot Business Can Work. Is the End of Prohibition Upon Us?" There have been dozens of thoughtful stories in 2009 on the growing momentum to end marijuana prohibition, including major pieces in prestigious outlets such as the New York Times, Washington Post, Newsweek, CBS News, CNN, the Economist and dozens of others! Last Month there was a revealing Washington Post story entitled: "Support for Legalizing Marijuana Grows Rapidly around the U.S.: Approval of Medical Use Expands Alongside Criticism of Prohibition." The story referenced a recent Gallup poll showing that 44% of Americans favor taxing and regulating marijuana, with the numbers higher than 50% is Western States like California, Washington and Oregon.
The Drug War Grinds On, but Change is in the Air (December)
For all the recent progress, drug policy reformers are under no illusion that the drug war will end any time soon. We know that drug prohibition and our harsh drug laws - fueled by a prison-industrial complex that locks up 500,000 of our fellow Americans on drug-related offenses - are poised to continue for some time wasting tens of billions of dollars a year and leading to the deaths of thousands of Mexicans and Americans every year due to prohibition-related violence. But we are clearly moving in the right direction, toward a more rational drug policy based on compassion, health, science and human rights. We need people to continue to join the movement to end this unwinnable war. If the people lead, the leaders will follow.
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Posted by: Hiroak on Dec 7, 2009 4:14 AM
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Let's not forget the psycho judges who love to sit their with a hard on and proclaim their power over the citizenry and the smarmy lawyers who play BOTH sides of the game. America is too sick to do anything as sensible as legalize some drugs such as Marijuana just as universal health care aint happening. One word PUNKASSREPUBLICANS
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Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 7, 2009 5:21 AM
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2. HR 1866, that is the Hemp Farming Act, is in the same position as HR 676. It's going nowhere which means no chance for those recreational users.
Sorry kiddies, but there is no real sign that the drug war is ending.
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Dec 7, 2009 6:21 AM
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We must all plan on replacing everyone in Washington beginning with next years mid-terms.
If we don't, We will oversee our own demise.
Ross Perot was the last person to warn us of the future..............HE WAS RIGHT.
Mike Gravel tried to warn us in 2008, shortly thereafter him along with Dennis Kucinich and Cynthia McKinney pretty much were done in.
If enough people wake up to these facts, the votes would overwhelm any and all opposition and suppression.
All of us need to spread this word far and wide.........copy and paste it on every board we frequent.
This is no longer a Right/Left matter, as we can see by the hope and change we are receiving.
The future of our Great Nation WILL affect all of us whether rich or poor, its only a matter of time-(which is growing shorter by the day).
We have to start NOW.....get involved, and thanks for reading this.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Dec 7, 2009 7:07 AM
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Our government spends billions of dollars a year on arresting, prosecuting, and incarcerating drug-law violators. Choked courts and prisons, an incarceration rate higher than most other nations in the world, and tax dollars diverted from education and health care are just a few of the costs our current prohibition imposes. There are health costs in drug prohibition. During the prohibition era, some fifty thousand Americans were paralyzed after consuming "jake," an adulterated Jamaican ginger extract. Today we have marijuana made more dangerous by government-sprayed paraquat.
Prohibition did succeed in reducing alcohol consumption and alcohol-related ills ranging from cirrhosis to public drunkenness and employee related absenteeism. But this was due to the effectiveness of the temperance movement in publicizing the dangers of alcohol. The decline in alcohol consumption during those years, like the recent decline in cigarette consumption, had less to do with laws than with changing social attitudes.
During the 1980s, for example, Americans began switching from hard liquor to beer and wine, from high tar-and-nicotine to low tar-and-nicotine cigarettes, and even from caffeinated to decaffeinated sodas, coffees, and teas.
Alcohol prohibition was repealed after just thirteen years while the prohibition of other drugs has continued for over 75 years. Why? Alcohol prohibition struck directly at society's most powerful members. The prohibition of other drugs, by contrast, threatened far fewer Americans with hardly any political power.
Only the prohibition of marijuana, which nearly 100 million Americans have violated since 1965, has come close to approximating the Prohibition era experience, but marijuana smokers consist mostly of young and relatively powerless Americans, though that may change -- given the tone and content of this article.
"I don't get angry when my mom smokes pot."
--Sublime, "What I Got"
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Posted by: franklyspanking on Dec 7, 2009 8:41 AM
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Don't hurt anyone, don't ask the public to subsidize your habits in any way, shape, or form, and don't target kids.
Follow those three rules, and you'll get my vote every time.
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The heroin war may continue, but more emphasis will shift to addict recovery when possible, addict maintenance when not. Our citizenry hates the side effects of lifetime heroin and tobacco addiction. Curiously, President Obama is propping up the world's biggest heroin production cartel. Blood for poppies.
Meth is a sex drug. Our white exurban culture (among others) loves it because we're so hung up on our Fundie "don't ever have sex" voices and we'd do anything to shut those voices up because we were born to be fruitful and multiply. Meth is disastrously addictive like heroin, so don't ever expect that war to end completely. Other sex-aiding drugs (alcohol, mail order Viagra) don't cause as many babies from random casual lovers.
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Posted by: zowie on Dec 7, 2009 10:19 AM
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Good point but we have no leaders. Only self-consumed arses with no minds of their own.
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Posted by: mercianomad on Dec 7, 2009 10:30 AM
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It should be clear to all by now that our captured government doesn't need public sanction or popular opinion to make the laws it wants to make, nor does it care about that sanction as long as the public remains atomized, nonviolent, powerless, or outside of the enormous advertising/mindwashing machinery in place - those things that dictate to us what our culture is.
Marijuana will be illegal indefinitely as long as Democrats and Republicans are running the show, and as long as they are the tools of those tiny, very rich few who put them in power.
Haven't people put 2 + 2 together yet?
Our "world's biggest prison population" (pot offenders, largely) is manufacturing Hondas for $2.00 an hour. Other prisoners make as little as $0.22 an hour for serving various corporations - cheaper even than Mexican labor. This is our future. They aren't just digging ditches and making license plates anymore. The more prisoners there are, the better it is for corporate America.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM
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"The use of wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping emerged during the Prohibition era. Roy Olmstead was a suspected bootlegger whom the government wished to search. It placed taps in the basement of his office building and on wires in the streets near his home. No physical entry into his office or home took place. Olmstead was convicted entirely on the basis of evidence from the wiretaps.
"In his appeal to the Supreme Court, Olmstead argued that the taps were a search conducted without a warrant and without probable cause, and that the evidence seized against him should have been excluded because it was illegally gathered. He also argued that his Fifth Amendment right not to be a witness against himself was violated.
"By a 5-4 vote, the Court rejected his arguments and upheld the government's power to wiretap without limit and without any Fourth Amendment restrictions, on the grounds that no actual physical intrusion had taken place.
"Olmstead's Fifth Amendment claim was also dismissed on the grounds that he had not been compelled to talk on the telephone, but had done so voluntarily. Thus the Court upheld the government's power to do by trickery and surreptitious means what it was not permitted to do honestly and openly. It wasn't until 1967, in a similar case involving gambling, that the Court overruled the Olmstead decision by an 8-1 margin and recognized that the Fourth Amendment applied to wiretapping and electronic surveillance.
"Interestingly, these cases arose in the context of crimes like bootlegging and gambling. During the past twenty years, the majority of wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping by both state and federal officials has been in cases involving drug dealing and gambling.
"Serious crimes of violence, such as homicide, assault, rape, robbery, and burglary, are rarely the target of electronic eavesdropping, which is not normally a useful tool in such cases.
"From the beginning, when wiretapping was virtually invented to enforce laws prohibiting the sale of alcohol, to the late 1960s, when gambling was a major target, to the present, when the use and sale of drugs other than alcohol are the main target, these intrusive devices have been used mostly to enforce laws aimed at punishing and proscribing personal conduct that society deems immoral.
"Because such conduct essentially involves private activities among consenting adults who are all likely to want to keep those activities secret, they are harder to investigate and prosecute than crimes like robbery or burglary, in which an unwilling victim will probably aid any investigation...the invasion of privacy inherent in wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping remains with us as part of the legacy of our attempts to criminalize personal conduct.
"The other major use of electronic eavesdropping has been to punish political dissent. For decades, former FBI director J. Edgar Hoover used wiretaps and other electronic devices to spy on political figures and citizens not yet suspected of having committed a crime. He built vast dossiers on their political activities and personal lives. Special units of local police called 'Red Squads' did the same."
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Posted by: PuzzledPieces on Dec 8, 2009 8:38 PM
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And if we're going to be talking about legalizing pot, why not shrooms? And if we're talking death toll, maybe it's about time we stopped trying to save the stupid and reckless, and focus on real issues that maybe cause our lives to be so shallow we feel the need to change our perception so we lose the shaking feeling that we're fucking up and yeah everyone is to blame, just as everyone serves their purpose. And hey, we all like those ends of the world movies so much, even people who don't think they believe it's gonna happen in our lifetime all know we're just be self-fulfilling our own prophecies.
Pot saved my life, and now it may be my greatest addiction yet. Though I'm getting to the point of where I'm sick of it, but I am truly a nobody stoner with a lot of opinions and problems. Pot makes me think, deeply, verryyy deeply. Some people chill, some people get happy, some lazy, and yeah we all slip into a haze when we smoke chronically, but I don't know many stoners who get violent when high ha, especially if you give them junk food haha.
I say use it in hard drug rehabilitation personally, trading habits like pets or taking up a hobby. Every drug has it's medical purposes, so lets loosen up, we're in an age when distractions, habits, and problems are what makes our society.
Wtf is money btw? Who the fuck's idea was that?? I'd rather trade like hippies and make everything I own. Crazy? You'll never believe what else I believe. Ha.
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Posted by: Livemike on Dec 10, 2009 2:45 AM
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So every time you see a cop arresting a drug dealer remember, you're watching the West throw away a chance to save terrorist victims.
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By Harold Baranoff
Part of the United States strategy in Afghanistan involves changing the loyalties of the less ideological Taliban. The idea is that some, perhaps a significant number, can be convinced to switch to loyalties by the use of incentives. The term "Turning of Turbans" is being used to describe the change of perspective, focus and direction of an Afghan fighter.
The strategy certainly has merit. Generally, when possible, it is better to cut a deal than fight a long and UN winnable war. There are many examples worldwide where opposition forces, including obvious terrorists, have gained amnesty and have been integrated into government forces, their political wings becoming above ground political parties and their leaders entering into governing coalitions.
If we are willing to consider those sorts of options with the likes of the Taliban, certainly we should enter into negotiations much closer to home with an opposition force that is far less dangerous and one that is open to complete and completely peaceful reintegration now.
I speak of the Marijuana Underground which is a loose association of mostly non-ideological Americans who live in daily opposition to American law. Today millions of Americans are at some level of conflict with the American Legal System, since mere possession of any detectable amount of marijuana is a crime.
Close to 850,000 Americans were arrested last year on marijuana charges. That is approximately 3% of the population who have smoked marijuana in the last year. Tens of thousands of Americans sit in U.S. prisons on possession charges. In spite of the ongoing war on marijuana, no real dent has been made in the production, distribution, or consumption of this relatively harmless herb. The War on Marijuana is UN winnable.
As a prisoner in an American Federal Prison, I offer the following proposal in the name of the millions of Americans in the Marijuana Underground:
We are ready and willing to be fully integrated into the U.S. society at large. We offer our labors, our intellects and our financial resources. We commit to helping reverse global warming, end hunger, help make our cities safer, grow gardens, solarize houses, teach the children, care for the elderly, confront terrorism, improve medical care and reduce its costs, and pay our fair share of taxes while building new industries.
We are ready to serve and ask very little in return. We want to end the marijuana arrests and gain freedom and amnesty for marijuana prisoners. We are willing to do more than our share. We will be model citizens. It is time to end the War on Marijuana. We are quite willing to "Turn our Turbans" and do our part to help reunite the United States of America.
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Mr. Baranoff is a P.O.W. held captive in a U.S. Federal; facility in rural Georgia, serving 41 months for marijuana possession.
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Posted by: yankee2 on Dec 17, 2009 7:02 PM
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If other drugs were legal, I think we'd get about the same or perhaps a slightly greater total amount of intoxication, spread across the several different drug choices. This would be a huge improvement over an alcohol-only drug structure, because these drugs are mostly much less dangerous than alcohol.
The results of the Portugese decriminalization law come as no surprise to me. As I'm sure most of my readers will agree, by far most of the problems associated with drug use are due to prohibition, not drug use per se.
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» RE: * Nixon was afraid drugs turned the youth he needed for cannon fodder against him.
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Posted by: tjg1984 on Dec 7, 2009 12:16 AM
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Posted by: Hiroak on Dec 7, 2009 4:14 AM
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Let's not forget the psycho judges who love to sit their with a hard on and proclaim their power over the citizenry and the smarmy lawyers who play BOTH sides of the game. America is too sick to do anything as sensible as legalize some drugs such as Marijuana just as universal health care aint happening. One word PUNKASSREPUBLICANS
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Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 7, 2009 5:21 AM
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2. HR 1866, that is the Hemp Farming Act, is in the same position as HR 676. It's going nowhere which means no chance for those recreational users.
Sorry kiddies, but there is no real sign that the drug war is ending.
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» RE: 2 signs that it's not ending to cancel out the 10 that claim it to be ending.
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Dec 7, 2009 6:21 AM
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We must all plan on replacing everyone in Washington beginning with next years mid-terms.
If we don't, We will oversee our own demise.
Ross Perot was the last person to warn us of the future..............HE WAS RIGHT.
Mike Gravel tried to warn us in 2008, shortly thereafter him along with Dennis Kucinich and Cynthia McKinney pretty much were done in.
If enough people wake up to these facts, the votes would overwhelm any and all opposition and suppression.
All of us need to spread this word far and wide.........copy and paste it on every board we frequent.
This is no longer a Right/Left matter, as we can see by the hope and change we are receiving.
The future of our Great Nation WILL affect all of us whether rich or poor, its only a matter of time-(which is growing shorter by the day).
We have to start NOW.....get involved, and thanks for reading this.
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» RE: We must all plan on replacing everyone in Washington beginning with next years mid-terms.
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» RE:third parties: time to explore Open Primary & Instant Run-off
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Posted by: vasumurti on Dec 7, 2009 7:07 AM
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Our government spends billions of dollars a year on arresting, prosecuting, and incarcerating drug-law violators. Choked courts and prisons, an incarceration rate higher than most other nations in the world, and tax dollars diverted from education and health care are just a few of the costs our current prohibition imposes. There are health costs in drug prohibition. During the prohibition era, some fifty thousand Americans were paralyzed after consuming "jake," an adulterated Jamaican ginger extract. Today we have marijuana made more dangerous by government-sprayed paraquat.
Prohibition did succeed in reducing alcohol consumption and alcohol-related ills ranging from cirrhosis to public drunkenness and employee related absenteeism. But this was due to the effectiveness of the temperance movement in publicizing the dangers of alcohol. The decline in alcohol consumption during those years, like the recent decline in cigarette consumption, had less to do with laws than with changing social attitudes.
During the 1980s, for example, Americans began switching from hard liquor to beer and wine, from high tar-and-nicotine to low tar-and-nicotine cigarettes, and even from caffeinated to decaffeinated sodas, coffees, and teas.
Alcohol prohibition was repealed after just thirteen years while the prohibition of other drugs has continued for over 75 years. Why? Alcohol prohibition struck directly at society's most powerful members. The prohibition of other drugs, by contrast, threatened far fewer Americans with hardly any political power.
Only the prohibition of marijuana, which nearly 100 million Americans have violated since 1965, has come close to approximating the Prohibition era experience, but marijuana smokers consist mostly of young and relatively powerless Americans, though that may change -- given the tone and content of this article.
"I don't get angry when my mom smokes pot."
--Sublime, "What I Got"
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Posted by: melpol on Dec 7, 2009 8:36 AM
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Posted by: franklyspanking on Dec 7, 2009 8:41 AM
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Don't hurt anyone, don't ask the public to subsidize your habits in any way, shape, or form, and don't target kids.
Follow those three rules, and you'll get my vote every time.
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Posted by: PaulK on Dec 7, 2009 8:44 AM
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» President Evo Morales of Boliva... President Rafael Correa of Ecuador...
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 7, 2009 8:46 AM
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Posted by: RFWoodstock on Dec 7, 2009 9:28 AM
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Posted by: MyMediMar on Dec 7, 2009 9:38 AM
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Posted by: PaulK on Dec 7, 2009 9:45 AM
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The heroin war may continue, but more emphasis will shift to addict recovery when possible, addict maintenance when not. Our citizenry hates the side effects of lifetime heroin and tobacco addiction. Curiously, President Obama is propping up the world's biggest heroin production cartel. Blood for poppies.
Meth is a sex drug. Our white exurban culture (among others) loves it because we're so hung up on our Fundie "don't ever have sex" voices and we'd do anything to shut those voices up because we were born to be fruitful and multiply. Meth is disastrously addictive like heroin, so don't ever expect that war to end completely. Other sex-aiding drugs (alcohol, mail order Viagra) don't cause as many babies from random casual lovers.
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» RE: Pot War, Heroin War, Meth War
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» Replace poppycrop with cannabis, both industrial and inspirational
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Posted by: zowie on Dec 7, 2009 10:19 AM
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Good point but we have no leaders. Only self-consumed arses with no minds of their own.
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Posted by: mercianomad on Dec 7, 2009 10:30 AM
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It should be clear to all by now that our captured government doesn't need public sanction or popular opinion to make the laws it wants to make, nor does it care about that sanction as long as the public remains atomized, nonviolent, powerless, or outside of the enormous advertising/mindwashing machinery in place - those things that dictate to us what our culture is.
Marijuana will be illegal indefinitely as long as Democrats and Republicans are running the show, and as long as they are the tools of those tiny, very rich few who put them in power.
Haven't people put 2 + 2 together yet?
Our "world's biggest prison population" (pot offenders, largely) is manufacturing Hondas for $2.00 an hour. Other prisoners make as little as $0.22 an hour for serving various corporations - cheaper even than Mexican labor. This is our future. They aren't just digging ditches and making license plates anymore. The more prisoners there are, the better it is for corporate America.
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Posted by: Gerald on Dec 7, 2009 2:08 PM
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Posted by: vasumurti on Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM
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"The use of wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping emerged during the Prohibition era. Roy Olmstead was a suspected bootlegger whom the government wished to search. It placed taps in the basement of his office building and on wires in the streets near his home. No physical entry into his office or home took place. Olmstead was convicted entirely on the basis of evidence from the wiretaps.
"In his appeal to the Supreme Court, Olmstead argued that the taps were a search conducted without a warrant and without probable cause, and that the evidence seized against him should have been excluded because it was illegally gathered. He also argued that his Fifth Amendment right not to be a witness against himself was violated.
"By a 5-4 vote, the Court rejected his arguments and upheld the government's power to wiretap without limit and without any Fourth Amendment restrictions, on the grounds that no actual physical intrusion had taken place.
"Olmstead's Fifth Amendment claim was also dismissed on the grounds that he had not been compelled to talk on the telephone, but had done so voluntarily. Thus the Court upheld the government's power to do by trickery and surreptitious means what it was not permitted to do honestly and openly. It wasn't until 1967, in a similar case involving gambling, that the Court overruled the Olmstead decision by an 8-1 margin and recognized that the Fourth Amendment applied to wiretapping and electronic surveillance.
"Interestingly, these cases arose in the context of crimes like bootlegging and gambling. During the past twenty years, the majority of wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping by both state and federal officials has been in cases involving drug dealing and gambling.
"Serious crimes of violence, such as homicide, assault, rape, robbery, and burglary, are rarely the target of electronic eavesdropping, which is not normally a useful tool in such cases.
"From the beginning, when wiretapping was virtually invented to enforce laws prohibiting the sale of alcohol, to the late 1960s, when gambling was a major target, to the present, when the use and sale of drugs other than alcohol are the main target, these intrusive devices have been used mostly to enforce laws aimed at punishing and proscribing personal conduct that society deems immoral.
"Because such conduct essentially involves private activities among consenting adults who are all likely to want to keep those activities secret, they are harder to investigate and prosecute than crimes like robbery or burglary, in which an unwilling victim will probably aid any investigation...the invasion of privacy inherent in wiretapping and electronic eavesdropping remains with us as part of the legacy of our attempts to criminalize personal conduct.
"The other major use of electronic eavesdropping has been to punish political dissent. For decades, former FBI director J. Edgar Hoover used wiretaps and other electronic devices to spy on political figures and citizens not yet suspected of having committed a crime. He built vast dossiers on their political activities and personal lives. Special units of local police called 'Red Squads' did the same."
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Posted by: PuzzledPieces on Dec 8, 2009 8:38 PM
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And if we're going to be talking about legalizing pot, why not shrooms? And if we're talking death toll, maybe it's about time we stopped trying to save the stupid and reckless, and focus on real issues that maybe cause our lives to be so shallow we feel the need to change our perception so we lose the shaking feeling that we're fucking up and yeah everyone is to blame, just as everyone serves their purpose. And hey, we all like those ends of the world movies so much, even people who don't think they believe it's gonna happen in our lifetime all know we're just be self-fulfilling our own prophecies.
Pot saved my life, and now it may be my greatest addiction yet. Though I'm getting to the point of where I'm sick of it, but I am truly a nobody stoner with a lot of opinions and problems. Pot makes me think, deeply, verryyy deeply. Some people chill, some people get happy, some lazy, and yeah we all slip into a haze when we smoke chronically, but I don't know many stoners who get violent when high ha, especially if you give them junk food haha.
I say use it in hard drug rehabilitation personally, trading habits like pets or taking up a hobby. Every drug has it's medical purposes, so lets loosen up, we're in an age when distractions, habits, and problems are what makes our society.
Wtf is money btw? Who the fuck's idea was that?? I'd rather trade like hippies and make everything I own. Crazy? You'll never believe what else I believe. Ha.
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Posted by: Livemike on Dec 10, 2009 2:45 AM
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So every time you see a cop arresting a drug dealer remember, you're watching the West throw away a chance to save terrorist victims.
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Posted by: mcbaranoff on Dec 10, 2009 10:37 AM
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By Harold Baranoff
Part of the United States strategy in Afghanistan involves changing the loyalties of the less ideological Taliban. The idea is that some, perhaps a significant number, can be convinced to switch to loyalties by the use of incentives. The term "Turning of Turbans" is being used to describe the change of perspective, focus and direction of an Afghan fighter.
The strategy certainly has merit. Generally, when possible, it is better to cut a deal than fight a long and UN winnable war. There are many examples worldwide where opposition forces, including obvious terrorists, have gained amnesty and have been integrated into government forces, their political wings becoming above ground political parties and their leaders entering into governing coalitions.
If we are willing to consider those sorts of options with the likes of the Taliban, certainly we should enter into negotiations much closer to home with an opposition force that is far less dangerous and one that is open to complete and completely peaceful reintegration now.
I speak of the Marijuana Underground which is a loose association of mostly non-ideological Americans who live in daily opposition to American law. Today millions of Americans are at some level of conflict with the American Legal System, since mere possession of any detectable amount of marijuana is a crime.
Close to 850,000 Americans were arrested last year on marijuana charges. That is approximately 3% of the population who have smoked marijuana in the last year. Tens of thousands of Americans sit in U.S. prisons on possession charges. In spite of the ongoing war on marijuana, no real dent has been made in the production, distribution, or consumption of this relatively harmless herb. The War on Marijuana is UN winnable.
As a prisoner in an American Federal Prison, I offer the following proposal in the name of the millions of Americans in the Marijuana Underground:
We are ready and willing to be fully integrated into the U.S. society at large. We offer our labors, our intellects and our financial resources. We commit to helping reverse global warming, end hunger, help make our cities safer, grow gardens, solarize houses, teach the children, care for the elderly, confront terrorism, improve medical care and reduce its costs, and pay our fair share of taxes while building new industries.
We are ready to serve and ask very little in return. We want to end the marijuana arrests and gain freedom and amnesty for marijuana prisoners. We are willing to do more than our share. We will be model citizens. It is time to end the War on Marijuana. We are quite willing to "Turn our Turbans" and do our part to help reunite the United States of America.
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Mr. Baranoff is a P.O.W. held captive in a U.S. Federal; facility in rural Georgia, serving 41 months for marijuana possession.
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Posted by: gucci on Dec 10, 2009 9:50 PM
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Posted by: yankee2 on Dec 17, 2009 7:02 PM
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If other drugs were legal, I think we'd get about the same or perhaps a slightly greater total amount of intoxication, spread across the several different drug choices. This would be a huge improvement over an alcohol-only drug structure, because these drugs are mostly much less dangerous than alcohol.
The results of the Portugese decriminalization law come as no surprise to me. As I'm sure most of my readers will agree, by far most of the problems associated with drug use are due to prohibition, not drug use per se.
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