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Sarah Palin Rules the GOP -- And She Will Destroy It
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Sarah Palin's heavily publicized book tour begins in earnest this Monday, but weeks before, her ghostwritten memoir, Going Rogue: An American Life, had already vaulted into the number one position at Amazon. Warming up for a tour that will take her across Middle America in a bus, Palin tested her lines in a November 7th speech before a crowd of 5,000 anti-abortion activists in Wisconsin. She promptly cited an urban legend as a "disturbing trend," claiming the Treasury Department had moved the phrase "In God We Trust" from presidential dollar coins. (The rumor most likely originated with a 2006 story on the far-right website WorldNetDaily.)
In fact, a suggested alteration in its position on the coin was shot down in 2007 after pressure from Democratic Senator Robert Byrd. Nonetheless, Palin did not hesitate to take up this "controversy," however false, since it conveniently pits a tyrannical, God-destroying, secular big government against humble God-fearing folk. In doing so, of course, she presented herself as this nation's leading defender of the faith.
In a Republican Party hoping to rebound in 2010 on the strength of a newly energized and ideologically aroused conservative grassroots, Palin's influence is now unparalleled. Through her Twitter account, she was the one who pushed the rumor of "death panels" into the national healthcare debate, prompting the White House to issue a series of defensive responses. Unfazed by its absurdity, she repeated the charge in her recent speech in Wisconsin. In a special congressional election in New York's 23rd congressional district, Palin's endorsement of Doug Hoffman, an unknown far-right third-party candidate, helped force a popular moderate Republican politician, Dede Scozzafava, from the race. In the end, Palin's ideological purge in upstate New York led to an improbable Democratic victory, the first in that GOP-heavy district in more than 100 years.
Though the ideological purge may have backfired, Palin's participation in it magnified her influence in the party. In a telling sign of this, Congressman Mark Kirk, a pro-choice Republican from the posh suburban North Shore of Chicago, running for the Senate in Illinois, issued an anxious call for Palin's support while she campaigned for Hoffman. According to a Kirk campaign memo, the candidate was terrified that Palin would be asked about his candidacy during her scheduled appearance on the Chicago-based Oprah Winfrey Show later this month -- the kick-off for her book tour -- and would not react enthusiastically. With $2.3 million in campaign cash and no viable primary challengers, Kirk was still desperate to avoid Palin-backed attacks from his right flank, however hypothetical they might be.
"She's gangbusters!" a leading conservative radio host exclaimed to me. "There is nobody in the Republican Party who can raise money like her or top her name recognition."
During the 2008 presidential race, some Republican Party elders warned of Palin's destructive influence. They insisted she was a polarizing figure whose extremism would accelerate the Party's slide toward the political and cultural margins. New York Times columnist David Brooks, a card-carrying neocon who had written glowingly of Senator McCain, claimed Palin represented "a fatal cancer to the Republican Party." Peggy Noonan, a former speechwriter for President Reagan and columnist for the Wall Street Journal, blasted Palin as "a dope and unqualified from the start." Last June, Steve Schmidt, the former McCain campaign chief of staff, warned that Palin's nomination as the GOP's 2012 presidential nominee would be "catastrophic."
New polling data appears to support such doomsday prophecies. According to an October 19th Gallup poll, the former governor of Alaska has become one of the most polarizing and unpopular politicians in the country. Since she quit the governorship to pursue her lucrative book deal, a move that upset many in Alaska's Republican leadership and cost the state's taxpayers almost $200,000, her unfavorability rating has spiked to 50% while her favorability has sunk to 40%, again according to Gallup's figures. (The only nationally-known politician who is less popular right now, according to the poll, is John Edwards, the former two-term senator who fathered a child out of wedlock and paid his mistress hush money while campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination on a social justice platform.)
Queen Esther
If Palin is indeed a cancer on the GOP, why can't the Republican establishment retire her to a quiet life of moose hunting in the political wilderness? Why has her appeal only increased in the wake of her catastrophic political expeditions? Why won't she listen to, or abide by, conventional political wisdom?
The answer lies beyond the realm of polls and punditry in the political psychology of the movement that animates and, to a great degree, controls, the Republican grassroots -- a uniquely evangelical subculture defined by the personal crises of its believers and their perceived persecution at the hands of cosmopolitan elites.
By emphasizing her own crises and her victimization by the "liberal media," Palin has established an invisible, indissoluble bond with adherents of that subculture -- so visceral it transcends any rational political analysis. As a result, her career has become a vehicle through which the right-wing evangelical movement feels it can express its deepest identity in opposition both to secular society and to its representatives in the Obama White House. Palin is perceived by its leaders -- and followers -- not as another cynical politician or even as a self-promoting celebrity, but as a kind of magical helper, the God-fearing glamour girl who parachuted into their backwater towns to lift them from the drudgery of everyday life, assuring them that they represented the "Real America."
If McCain had taken his preferred choice for a running mate in 2008, he would have chosen Joseph Lieberman, the turncoat Democrat and his best friend in the Senate. But with the base of the Republican Party subsumed by a Christian right that detested the senator, his advisors urged him to choose the untested, virtually unknown Alaskan governor to bring the faithful back to him. Their gamble paid off -- at least in the short-term. When Palin was revealed as the vice presidential nominee at an off-the-record gathering of the Council for National Policy, a secretive cabal of the conservative movement's top financiers and activists, Tom Minnery of the Christian right outfit Focus on the Family recalled, "People were on their seats applauding cheering, yelling… that room was electrified."
Before her nomination, the provincial Palin had traveled outside the country only once and demonstrated little, if any, intellectual curiosity. During the campaign, she was flummoxed when CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric simply asked what magazines she read. Yet the fact that she had such a limited understanding of the world actually recommended her to the Republican base.
The gun-toting, snowmobile-cruising former beauty queen became an instant cultural icon. Little understood by those outside this culture was her religious worldview, cultivated during the 20 years she spent worshipping at the Wasilla Assembly of God, a right-wing Pentecostal church in her hometown north of Anchorage. When I visited the church in October 2008, a pastor from Kenya, Bishop Thomas Muthee, was at the podium comparing Palin to Queen Esther, the biblical queen who used her wiles to intercede for her people. The reference was clear enough: Palin, the former beauty pageant contestant who had chosen Esther as her biblical role model when she first entered politics, would topple America's secular tyrants, leading her people, the true Christians, into the kingdom. As he concluded his sermon, Muthee gesticulated wildly and spoke in tongues, urging parishioners to "come against the spirit of witchcraft as the body of Christ."
Three years earlier, in 2005, Muthee had anointed Palin during a public ceremony at the Wasilla Assembly of God, laying his hand on her forehead while praying to protect her "against all forms of witchcraft." The bishop claimed that he had personally battled a witch in his hometown of Kiambu, Kenya, driving the evildoer from the town and thereby ending an epidemic of crime and licentiousness. The episode was later revealed as a farce by a reporter from Women's eNews who traveled to Kiambu and found the supposed witch, a local healer named Mama Jane, still living happily in her compound. In palling around with Muthee, whom she credited with helping propel her into the governor's mansion by anointing her, Palin revealed herself as an authentic religious zealot. Whatever her flaws might have been, this was what mattered to the movement in 2008 -- and what matters now.
Once Palin was nominated, her sixteen-year-old daughter Bristol (named for Bristol Bay, Alaska) became the subject of ferocious media scrutiny. She had, it turned out, been impregnated by Levi Johnston, a local eighteen-year-old jock who identified himself on his MySpace page as "a f**kin' redneck." To media outsiders, Bristol's out-of-wedlock pregnancy was particularly startling, given Palin's advocacy of abstinence-only education. In the eyes of many liberals, Palin had been revealed as but another family-values hypocrite, but to members of the Christian right, she was something quite different -- a glamorized version of themselves. As the Palin family became a staple of late-night comedy monologues, Palin fought back against the secular enemy, slamming David Letterman for "sexually perverted jokes" about her daughter. With that, the movement's adulation for her overflowed.
The Culture of Personal Crisis
Palin's daughter's drama caught vividly a culture of personal crisis that defines so many evangelical communities across the country. That culture is described in a landmark congressionally funded study of adolescent behavior, Add Health, revealing that white evangelical women like Bristol Palin lose their virginity, on average, at age 16 -- earlier, that is, than any group except black Protestants.
Another recent study by sociologists Peter Bearman and Hannah Bruckner notes that over half of evangelical girls who have pledged to maintain their virginity until marriage wind up having sex before marriage, and with a man other than their future husband. Bearman and Bruckner also disclose that communities with the highest population of girls who attend so-called purity balls, where they vow chastity until marriage before their fathers in a prom-like religious ceremony, also have some of the country's highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases. In Lubbock, Texas, where abstinence education has been mandated since 1995, the rate of gonorrhea is now double the national average, while teen pregnancy has spiked to the highest levels in the state.
"So many families deal with the same issues Sarah Palin is dealing with, so we really can relate to what she is going through," Grace Van Diest, a middle-aged Alaskan delegate from Wasilla, told me on the floor of the 2008 Republican National Convention. Van Diest then described how each of her daughters went on "a date with their dad" to discuss their pledge to "keep themselves pure until marriage."
Palin consolidated her bond with the movement in another very personal way. She cradled her new son Trig, born with Downs Syndrome, before the klieg lights. Her husband Todd had chosen the name believing it was Norse for "strength." ("Trygg" actually means "safe" or "reliable" in Norwegian.) Palin's decision to carry the baby to term excited many evangelicals and anti-abortion activists, including James Dobson, who wrote a letter congratulating her for having what he called "that little Downs Syndrome baby." "What a way to emphasize your pro-life leanings there!" he exclaimed during a radio broadcast in which he endorsed the McCain-Palin ticket, even though he had denounced McCain as a "liberal" only weeks before.
After the market collapsed in the fall of 2008 and the McCain campaign ran off the rails, Palin untethered herself -- as her book title has it, she went "rogue" -- ignoring McCain's rules on attacking Obama. Instead, she lashed out at candidate Obama in her own distinctive way. "This is a man who launched his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist," she insisted. "This is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America." With these two lines, apparently uttered without the permission of McCain or his top aides, Palin opened up a deep schism within the campaign, while unleashing a flood of emotions from the depths of the Party faithful.
"Kill him!" a man shouted at a campaign rally in Clearwater, Florida, when Palin linked Obama to terrorism, according to Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank.
The next time she mentioned Obama, another man cried out, "Terrorist!" "Treason!"
"Go back to Kenya!" a woman typically screamed during a Palin rally in Des Moines, Iowa.
While Obama entertained visions of a blissful post-partisan, post-racial America, Palin almost single-handedly gave birth to the birthers who would, after his inauguration, dedicate themselves to proving he was not, by birth, an American. By "going rogue," Palin instinctively and craftily propelled her ambitions beyond Election Day, and so anointed herself as the movement's magical helper in the Obama era.
Elevated by yesterday's man, Palin now represents her Party's future -- and the greatest danger it faces. Her intimate bond with the Republican grassroots has made her the indispensable woman, even if she provokes a visceral sense of revulsion from many independents and moderates. Other Republican frontrunners like former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty have a debilitating problem to face in any race for the presidency: they are viewed as inauthentic candidates by the movement -- cardboard men in suits who are only pantomiming appeals to cultural resentment.
Mike Huckabee, an ordained Baptist minister who understands the nuances of evangelical culture, nonetheless bears the burden of being a 2008 primary loser. At that time, the former governor of Arkansas had a clear field when it came to the religious right, but was unable to expand beyond his Southern bastions of support.
Palin was, after all, chosen. She never lost a primary -- and it was McCain who lost the race. If Huckabee sought to run again for the nomination, he might have to compete against her for the allegiance of the evangelical constituency.
Nor can she be easily criticized. Palin is so well positioned as the darling of the movement that any criticism of her would be experienced by believers as a personal attack on them. In this way, their identification with her through the politics of personal crisis is complete. Any Republican primary challenger assailing Palin will be seen as victimizing her, as channeling the attacks of the liberal elites, and possibly as having a secret liberal agenda. On the other hand, to embrace her is to risk losing the great American center.
For the 2010 mid-term elections, Palin's endorsement is already a coveted commodity -- as Mark Kirk's desperate bid to secure it demonstrates. The more she is attacked, the more the Republican base adores her. As she sets out on her book tour, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune only propel her forward. Her influence on a party largely devoid of leadership is expanding. If she doesn't prove to be the Party's future queen, she may have positioned herself to be its future king-maker -- and potentially its destroyer. You betcha.
Max Blumenthal is the author of Republican Gomorrah (Basic/Nation Books, 2009) has just been released. Contact him at maxblumenthal3000@yahoo.com.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 16, 2009 1:39 AM
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Won't we ever learn how to keep a secret !
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Posted by: drfun on Nov 16, 2009 1:38 AM
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Governor Palin didn't root out corrupt GOP politicians in Alaska, she just replaced it with her brand of corruption.
Caribou Barbie keeps demanding the M$M to "Tell the truth", while she gets a free pass to lie. Google a fact check on her book to see just how conflicting her version of what happened compared to historical reality.
The more Sarah Palin articulates her message to the public, the greater the number find her ideas and opinions less credible.
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Posted by: nobuko on Nov 16, 2009 2:47 AM
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I honestly believe these 59 Million Americans would rather eat dirt, become jobless, homeless and hungry before the accept a Person of Color as President of these United States.
Its so sad, and oh so very true, as we watch and listen to the far right trying to destroy President Obama and all that he's trying to do. Bad, its all over the media, when he does something good for the People, its not even mentioned.
What's worse is that, Americans are very restless. For some strange reason, they believe Obama has this magic wand, and can change over 20 years of decay overnight. Therefore, they are impatience whereby they are not voting to get rid of the paid for Democrat's and finish getting rid of the already paid for Republicans, that the country will be back in the Republicans control to finish what GW and Cheney started, and that is to make America into a 3rd World country, while they go around the world, bullying, lying, stealing and killing to take over their rich natural resources, and pay them slave wages to produce what Big Oil and Big Business wants. Then leave their land baren and toxic.
Keep it up, for America will be in the shape of Mexico, whereby we will be leaving America to find jobs in other countries!
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» RE: Sarah Palin, the Next Great White Hope
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» Some who voted for McCain/Palin were racists, some were just loyal GOP stalwarts...
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» Great White Hope? Nah...
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» RE: Sarah Palin, the Next Great White Hope
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Posted by: Lese Majeste on Nov 16, 2009 2:49 AM
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Neither could Bush, but he was able to get re-elected, albeit thru theft.
Obama's set a record for telling lies about the campaign promises he made and people are seeing thru his deceits and are thoroughly pissed that he's shoveling tons of OUR money to Wall Street gangsters while millions are losing their homes to the same.
Not that Palin will be any more truthful, but she's got the knack for inciting people into near lynch mob frenzy and will easily take the 2012 election.
Will the nation continue to slide off a cliff and be run by a different set of greedy fools after 2012?
"You Betcha!"
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» That is what the "bah" I keeep hearing was all about.
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» Here is how we get around all that and take advantage of Palin running the GOP.
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» RON PAUL, WTF!!!!
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» Kucinich/Sanders in 2012
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» RE: ON PAUL, WTF!!!!
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» CLINTON/DODD 2012
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» Oh, great, two replacement CFR fascist globalists... no thanks.
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» Paul is a carpetbagger Yankee - just like the Bushes.
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» RE: Dennis Kucinich for president and Ron Paul for NOTHING!!
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» Don't confuse 'em with facts that don't fit the narrative,
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» RE: Here is how we get around all that; how do you get around the Dem/Repub thing? They're NOT
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» RE: Here is how we get around all that; how do you get around the Dem/Repub thing? They're NOT
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» Kusinich wants social program spending; PAUL WANTS TO ABOLISH EVERY SOCIAL PROGRAM!
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» Name one thing I ACTUALLY SAID that isn't true. Just one.
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» Everything you said was typical fast food treatment of his positions.
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Posted by: Plenum on Nov 16, 2009 4:08 AM
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Let her lead the party - she's an idiot!
She's splitting the party - of course, she's an idiot!
Hey, sooner or later they may or not recognize the idiocy of her leadership - it'll take months if not years to repair and reorganize the party - well, GREAT!! (...So, shaddup libs, and...) LET THEM DROWN IN THEIR OWN IGNORANCE.
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» RE: Palin's Good for the rest of us!! She's an brat!
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» The book is gonna be a huge "bestseller."
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Posted by: godsbreath64 on Nov 16, 2009 4:25 AM
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Her "Mein Kompf" (finishing what the people elected her for) party-porn, 5 chapter toilet paper dogwhistles to coopt THE KLAN. Look at the last Alaskan governors race to help you along.
Why is this so hard to see?
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» save the fascist republic & 20% off on the empire princess
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» That is exactly why we want her to win the GOP nomination.
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» GOP needs to be more than Socialism-Lite.
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» Limbaugh, is not an indicator of the moderate side, rather of the neocon side of the party...
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» RE: Palin's support may be more broad based
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» Exactly. Does anyone remember Shuckidoo Bush and the laughter his millenium presidential ideations
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Take That, GOP!
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Nov 16, 2009 6:39 AM
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1980 to 2007
20 YEARS OF 3 CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENTS
18 years Conservative Senate
12 years Conservative House
6 years Total Conserative control
Redistribution of Finances to top 20%.
Folk! It is downhill slide for Middle Class.
FACTS---
1946--1% owned 30% of Total Wealth
1980--20%
thence cometh conservatism
1989-36%
80% Increase in 8 years of Reaganism
2007--20% owned 93% of Total non home Financal Wealth
80% owned equity in homes.
Most major corporations are owned by WALL STREET RICH MEN CASINO
Five Wall Street Banks own 75% of all Bank Deposits in America. 5.
Think that is not POWER???
In 8 years of Bush with 6 years of Total Control
THEY(wall street Rich) created a Net New Jobs of 3000 per month.
Why? That is NET.You take the new jobs created and subtract the ones sent to China, etc
3000! Wow! Bush took over after Clinton had created 237,000 Net New Jobs per month.
Clinton left Bush a spending of 1830 B Per Year.
Bush doubled it by 100% to 3600 B.
Bush inherited a 5500B Debt from Clinton. He took it to 11,500B
20 years of 3 conservative presidents did this horrible thing.
Took the Debt of less than 1000B after 200 years and added on 8000B.
Much of that 8000B went to WALL STREET GAMBLERS.
The people do not know what has happened to them.
Right Wingers yell Rich Pay most of taxes.
Income Taxes.Yes.They have most of the Income.
Yet! Conservative transferred much of taxation from Rich to Middle Class. Reagan voiding Revenue Sharing a disaster for Middle Class
where taxes were transferred from Rich Income taxes to Middle Class in State and Local Taxes. It was a Designed Act of taxtion transfer by Conservatives.
IN 2008 the top 10% paid 30% of total income in
Federal-State-Local Taxes.
Middle Class paid 30%.
A result of Reagan + Bush redistribution from top to Middle Class.
That is not a Progressive Tax System.
Destruction of S&Ls was deliberate act of wealth transfer from 400 local investors to indvidual Rich on Wall Street.
Key actor Michael Milkin became a Multiple Billionaire with income of 550 Million in one year from raiding S&L deposits (plus) for his Rich Corporate Raiders on Walll Street.
Raiders like Perelman and Ichan became mulitple Billionaires.
Sweat of Brow? Ho Ho.
RAPE OF MIDDLE CLASS 1980-2007
Same ideology gave us Great Depression now Great Recession.
It is not a Depression due to:
Democratic Social Safety Nets such as
Social Security and Medicare
Only the uninformed vote to send conservatives to Washington.
Some type f Revolt wil take place in next decade.
Democrats will continue to allow Conservatives with their huge right wing talk shows spreading lies to blame them.
Democrats need a national Megaphone informing all the people as to what has been done and how they have been RAPED by a few million RICH on Wall STreet who have taken their Wealth.
A Producing nation to a Financial Nation.
Remember Rome-Spain-Holland-England-- add on United States of America
I ask one thing.
PROVE ME WRONG.
cswinney2@triad.rr.com
author-Lifeaholic-Workaholic to Lifeaholic success
author-unpublished
All American Party-How Democrats created a great successful Middle Class and how Conservatives will kill it.
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Posted by: popeurbanxxiii on Nov 16, 2009 7:16 AM
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She, and the people she represents, come from a very different place than the "coasters" - the educated people of the East and West Coasts.
"Palinites" are the product of the great "dumbing down of America" that actually began pre St. Ronnie. (Anybody out there remember "New Math" circa early 1970's?) And they wear their anti-intellectualism as a badge of honor.
This ethos is also central to their faith. The "Palinites" follow Tertullian's dictum of Credo quai absurdum (Because it is absurd, I believe) with relish and vigor. Their faith requires them to believe "six impossible things before breakfast". And we want to talk reason and logic with (or even about) these people?
It was a Devil's bargain that brought the evangelicals into the Republican fold. The party leaders used a large measure of cynicism to bring the religious right on board. They were rubes to be used to guarantee electoral victory.
Now the monster is about to kill Dr. Frankenstein in what was a pretty predictable outcome.
To survive the Palin-ization of the Republican party, they are going to have to moderate their extremism, jettison the Palinites, and let them form their "Conservative Party".
I hear Doug Hoffman is available to be party chairman.
Pax...
Pope Urban XXIII
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» Exactly!
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» I remember the "new math"...
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Posted by: mapmanic on Nov 16, 2009 7:17 AM
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- Napoleon Bonaparte
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» Exactly...... thank you.
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Posted by: franklyspanking on Nov 16, 2009 7:42 AM
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Hope 'n change, my laddies, hope 'n change!
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» We are currently enjoying "peace and prosperity"???? Where do you live?
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 16, 2009 8:15 AM
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I would like to propose a toast:
Here's to Sarah Palin; may she never - EVER - go away.
I am going to go out on a limb here: No woman since Eleanor Roosevelt has done more to further the cause of progressive politics in the United States of America than our Sarah.
Don'cha just love her? I sure do!
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» Absolutely, she is the death knell and the provider of choice for us.
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Posted by: jdub on Nov 16, 2009 8:23 AM
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» The Party of the Whites?
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Nov 16, 2009 8:37 AM
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Palin is the epitome of what the Republican party has become. She was the natural evolution and outcome of what Karl Rove accelerated when he was Bush's architect. Rove is the mastermind behind how and why Palin represents the Republican party. Altho he didn't directly pick her, he included the voting bloc that admires her into Bush's base. You can thank Rove for this GOP disaster just like you can thank him for the disaster of the Bush years.
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Posted by: djnoll on Nov 16, 2009 9:12 AM
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But it is more than that. This woman, egged on by her beliefs, has tapped into a segment of our society that believes violence is the answer to all their ills, and that if God rubber-stamps it in their minds, then they can act with impunity.
This idiot woman is not as stupid as she appears, but she is far from realistic about what she is doing. She has, as the article stated, tapped into a group that are something I do not think she truly understands, and neither do those who are advising her. This group has been waiting for a sign that their day has come, and when it arrives totally, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be able to stop them.
Charles Dickens once noted that mankind should fear want and ignorance, but most especially ignorance. In this country, our greatest danger is ignorance and we have allowed those we elected to govern us to gut our educational system so badly that ignorance has found a place to grow and flourish. Many of those who are racist or anti-governmental forces that we used to regard as just too far-right because of their ignorance and lack of education, are now finding that they are not in the minority anymore, thanks to this woman. In fact, nearly two whole generations of Americans, with the help of public "education" have joined them in being ignorant of the very basics of democracy or any useful skills in service to a democracy. With this woman as their spokesperson, they have a way to vent the generations of hate and isolation, and they are more than willing to drag along the rest of us into their dangerous actions.
Sarah Palin is an idiot! She is ignorant, and proud of it! And so are those who follow her. I recently had a man in Las Vegas tell me he voted for McCain/Palin in 2008 because he could not trust Obama. I asked him if he thought he could have trusted McCain, and he said No, that McCain would have probably been worse. So I asked him if he thought Palin would have been a better President, and his said, Probably not, but she is so gorgeous she should be President! That was why he voted for them - Palin was gorgeous! (Personally I think she is not so pretty, but I guess if you like the over-made up Tammy Fae Baker look, she is all right.) It did not matter whether she was capable or competent or intelligent. All that mattered was looks, and as long as she was not going to be President, why not?
When 59 million people vote for someone on a Presidential ticket, it better be because they are competent, not pretty. When our nation votes based on looks, rather than substance, we are truly in trouble, and that is what makes this woman so dangerous - people have stopped demanding leadership, just vapid looks and religious rantings are all these people care about, and that is dangerous.
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» Here is what is silly about what you said..... the RIGHT ALREADY HAD THEIR GUNS...
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» RE: Palin is solidly non-violent.
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Posted by: Dorothy Oz on Nov 16, 2009 9:11 AM
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Once Senator Sam Brownback becomes our next governor in Kansas we will see this constellation moving at high speed. Sam, the ultimate Domionist with the charismatic catholics left out of the health care debate will join forces as they already have - and this movement will turn uglier than any of you might care to ponder. The decaying Republican party has allowed itself to be raped and this rising trend of conservativiem will hasten as the economy worsens and as the hatred they are creating will spill over into other disenfranchised and marginalized groups who will take up their cause through our government, because they take dirty money from dirty people who are disquised as do-gooders.
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» WHOM you hate
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» This statement would be a lot more readable if you broke it into paragraphs.
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Posted by: solrev on Nov 16, 2009 9:15 AM
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Storms are brewing in your eyes,
Sarah,
Now I can realize
Sarah,
You're like a beauty queen
Sarah,
Storms are brewing in your eyes,
Sarah,
Now I can realize
Sarah,
There's danger in your eyes
Sarah
I remember when AlterNet was dancing on Palin’s grave, after she resigned in Alaska. I made some predictions about what Palin was going to do. I got a 1 of course but I also have it documented. In that comment I used the term kingmaker also. Nothing has changed, Palin is a hustler and she is to smart to risk anything running for anything. She can play the heads I win and tales I win game. Right now my early line is on Huckabee, and Palin would rather support than fight Huckabee. If Huckabee wins she wins, if Huckabee loses she wins, now that is a good game to be in. Too bad Obama turned out to be Bush 2.5, he can talk the talk but he can’t walk the walk. However, have no fear the dominion of the born again pagans will be short lived.
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Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Nov 16, 2009 9:24 AM
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cojones [John Conyers]. If he doesn't get either, he will be "swift-boated" or "birthed" into the irrelevance he has earned to date. We deserve better than any of this and perhaps one day we will look to Kucinich for deliverance, but he's "off the table" too! Selah!
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Posted by: angryblkman on Nov 16, 2009 9:33 AM
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Posted by: liblady2008 on Nov 16, 2009 9:45 AM
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Somehow the wing nuts think not so bright is good, and really bright is bad.
Reagan was not so dumb, but he was no deep thinker and half around the bend by the time he was in office. I doubt Dubya hits 3 digits on the IQ meter. Sarah is kind of like a female Ronnie but even less of a deep thinker with no intellectual curiosity.
God help us if enough people vote for this nut cake to make the election stealable (and they have practice doing that).
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Nov 16, 2009 10:17 AM
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Or then, it is possible she could be the next President.
Oh my god that would be an episode right out of the Twilight Zone.
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Posted by: PaulK on Nov 16, 2009 10:37 AM
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The Republicans will try to cover up certain eyewitnessed racial statements made by the governor, and all the corruption charges in Alaska that she ran away from by suddenly leaving the governorship.
There may or may not be ongoing alcohol, meth and oxycontin problems with some of Mrs. Palin's kids or with her kids' busted friends. For some unknown reason Mrs. Palin's problems as a mother should never reflect on Mrs. Palin's ability to also fail in Washington.
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» LOL, now that was a great analysis...... creative, different, and probably accurate.
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Posted by: bitsfick on Nov 16, 2009 10:42 AM
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Posted by: jareilly on Nov 16, 2009 11:06 AM
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Blumenthal has correctly pointed out, however, why a Left critique of evangelical rightwing hypocricy never works. They don't care, as the Lubbock TX teen sex statistics prove. They don't need to reference the facts, apply reason or look back at the outcomes of their own policy initiatives. They don't care if their ideas don't work in practice. They do not believe that their worldview and it's consequences are subject to debate or analysis.
The sin is not what's important. Like their bumper stickers say, "Not perfect, just saved". As long as there is a public demonstration of remorse, using the proper code words, it doesn't matter how many barnyard animals they bugger or how much meth they cook or oxycontin they sell to teens who then die in fatal head-on car crashes. None of it matters. What matters is God-talk and grievance; the stab in the back; the incurable sense or victimization; the utterly shallow, baseless identification with Jesus on the cross. This maybe and the desperate need to make others behave the same way, in order to justify their own beliefs. These are people who believe that Saddam Hussein must have been behind the 9/11 attacks - Otherwise, why else would "we" have invaded Iraq?
They walk among us in the millions, hermetically sealed in their one-dimensional never-neverland.
As far as Palin's chances at gaining greater power, we'd be fools to overestimate the brains and character of the American voter. Our neighbors put Cheney/Bush in the White House twice (even with election fraud, the margin was close - that's why fraud worked). Obama (whatever we may thing of him) only beat McCain/Palin by a margin of a couple of points in the popular vote and probably only because of the Wall Street crash.
Her cartoonish manner and dimwitted remarks won't be her biggest problem - money will; if she can't raise enough because, for whatever reason, the big money boys won't hand it over, she'll stall out and fade away. If she can, watch out.
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» I think your right, so therefore, in order to win, we have to have someone else...
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Posted by: DangerDuckie on Nov 16, 2009 11:44 AM
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The Republicans deserve her idiocy...let the theocratic hypocrites of her party build her up, her fall will just be that much sweeter.
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Posted by: sirios on Nov 16, 2009 11:50 AM
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» RE: ENCOURAGE HER - Yup. She will split the party
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» You sound scared of Palin.
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» Yup. She's full of it, all right.
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» And You're A Defender Of Mediocrity And Ignorance
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» Its that very point that ensures the CFR will want her as a candidate, so they can launch their own
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Posted by: flirt on Nov 16, 2009 1:08 PM
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We really need to convert our political system into one that exists to solve problems. The one we have not is controlled by money; the party in power is just serving a different set of lobbyists...the American people still lose.
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Posted by: snideelf on Nov 16, 2009 1:40 PM
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The Repug Party is now only the party of fringe politics.
The Limburger listeners, Malkin misanthropes, the 15 percent who still say W was a good president.
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» "Bush may have been than ..."??
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Posted by: McGovern72! on Nov 16, 2009 1:52 PM
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However, Going Rogue is credibly reported all over the media as Pslin's own work. This loser can't even get that right.
Why read this tripe any further? Blumthal is no GOPer, so why care what he says about the GOP? I could tell you D&D gamers are going to be bored, but I'm no D&D gamer, so who cares?
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» Aren't you embarassed to tell idiotic, provable lies to an audience that KNOWS how stupid they are?
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» AYERS
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» Hmm, maybe there is a third option. Maybe not just the strawman you put up - again and again.
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Posted by: rickiey on Nov 16, 2009 2:22 PM
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As much as we'd like for the toughest challenge from the GOP to be Palin, the GOP isn't stupid. Evil, yes. Stupid, no.
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Posted by: Beck on Nov 16, 2009 3:32 PM
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Some suggestions on infiltration
1) pick an extremely leftie avatar - Che Guevara, Ghandhi, A left wing leader of some kind - go all out and lie with pictures on this one.
2) Pick an extremely leftie name - Farleft, ProudCommunist, or a real sounding name.
3) Pick a left-wing cause that won't comprimise your morals too much and consistantly post supportive comments on it. Environmentalism is kind of neutral for example.
4) After a while start posting stories of Jewish influence in the media in terms of right wing jews, something on Muslim immigrants mistreating their women, etc etc.
See how long you can keep it up before they catch on. Test the limits - go for an extreme story once or twice. Have some fun with it.
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» Sounds Like Him All Right, But....
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Posted by: eosrk on Nov 16, 2009 4:30 PM
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» Actually, just delayed it. The neocons need a world war for profit.
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Posted by: Erik1968 on Nov 16, 2009 4:42 PM
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Obama's thin gruel of "hope" and Clinton-lite economics will pave the way for President Palin as surely as Carter's "trust" and tax cuts opened the door for Reagan.
Please, Mr. Obama, do something? Please? Before Palin's brown shirts take over?
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» Um....
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» Too late, Obama is on a committed path, rather WE have to do something about it.
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Posted by: Lilly on Nov 16, 2009 6:02 PM
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» This is one of the best analyses yet that I have seen of Palin
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Posted by: Scalpel on Nov 16, 2009 6:06 PM
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That is typical behavior of the GOP we know and loathe...but that is not the reason for my title. Hence, my second point...
As time goes on, I grow more disenchanted with most of the commentary I find here. Outside of the handful of thoughtful comments, I usually see one of the following: a)the "rebel" who finds actually doing something about where this country is going less fun than continuing to grumble about it, b)the paranoid who bawks like Chicken Little about how the sky is falling for the nine millionth time and decrees the inevitable doom of the planet, c) the right-winger who drops a post for the sole purpose of stirring shit up or d) the "wave-a-magic-wand" poster who mistook Obama for Dumbledore.
Folks, as much as I know it is hard to believe after all this time, THE BUSH ERA IS OVER. We've been left a lot of fallout that is going to take decades to clean up. We need to seriously ask ourselves two questions: 1)what are we doing to actually make things better (as opposed to, say, shooting off our mouths)? 2) are we actually practicing what we preach in our daily lives? 3) in our undying hatred of the GOP, are we becoming what we loathe?
Think about it, Alterneters. Think about what you really want to be.
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» So, I guess your grumbling post makes you a rebel (choice "a")? n/m
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» RE: So, I guess your grumbling post makes you a rebel (choice "a")? n/m
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» Yeah, I almost died laughing on that one. Talk about "denial".... lol
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» Thank You! Much Needed Reality Check!
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» Yes, and his falls under Item a. grumbling...... REALITY CHECK with a touch of fantasy.
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Posted by: Bob Horn on Nov 16, 2009 7:07 PM
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Nov 16, 2009 7:33 PM
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Palin's crew, however, have noticed that these "Eastern Establishment" Republicans never did a damned thing for anybody but the rich. They have lost their jobs and abortion is still legal - among other things. They want someone "authentic," a "true believer" and there is no way they will follow anyone else - anymore.
The establishment - the big money guys - ain't gonna support a Palin in a million years. Not unless they are delusional enough to think they can control her, that is. Their real agenda has always been manipulating those nuts so they could further empower the rich; no way they will allow the inmates to run the asylum.
That means a huge split in a party that is already becoming a marginalized, minority party. The Republican party will not survive that split; it is about to go the way of the whigs - because the Palin believers will never accept lip service from the establishment again. Okay, their diminutive memories will be clouded eventually - but by that time, it will be too late.
It will happen, mark my words.
Buy lots of popcorn, it's gonna be fun to watch.
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Nov 16, 2009 8:39 PM
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And how typical of the "birther" and "deather" Charismatics that they think 1) that all of America holds their views, and 2) that their lies, name-calling, and misrepresentations will gather as little notice as they themselves give them. They must indeed think that we are all as stupid as they are.
Unfortunately for them, a lot of us weren't raised in families where plain sense was ushered out the back door, when faith came in the front. We still insist on logic, in making sense of what we see.
It makes no sense to wait for Christ to yank us all bodily into the high air, if we just unhinge our vocal apparatus enough during services. God will not be fooled, by these folks' wishful thinking, into damning more than half of our race, purely along lines of what we happen to believe about Him. If God deserves His press, He's much smarter than that.
The overwhelmingly good news here, is that Sarah's presence may make a Republican bid in 2012 like starting on a cross-country marathon, running on a set of drive-flats. They blow out at around seventy miles run.
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Posted by: ColinLaney on Nov 17, 2009 10:17 AM
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And it doesn't matter if she doesn't have big money backers. The teabagger mailing list will provide.
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» Not only that but it will ensure her a spot on Fox news at good wages.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 16, 2009 1:39 AM
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Won't we ever learn how to keep a secret !
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Posted by: drfun on Nov 16, 2009 1:38 AM
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Governor Palin didn't root out corrupt GOP politicians in Alaska, she just replaced it with her brand of corruption.
Caribou Barbie keeps demanding the M$M to "Tell the truth", while she gets a free pass to lie. Google a fact check on her book to see just how conflicting her version of what happened compared to historical reality.
The more Sarah Palin articulates her message to the public, the greater the number find her ideas and opinions less credible.
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Posted by: nobuko on Nov 16, 2009 2:47 AM
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I honestly believe these 59 Million Americans would rather eat dirt, become jobless, homeless and hungry before the accept a Person of Color as President of these United States.
Its so sad, and oh so very true, as we watch and listen to the far right trying to destroy President Obama and all that he's trying to do. Bad, its all over the media, when he does something good for the People, its not even mentioned.
What's worse is that, Americans are very restless. For some strange reason, they believe Obama has this magic wand, and can change over 20 years of decay overnight. Therefore, they are impatience whereby they are not voting to get rid of the paid for Democrat's and finish getting rid of the already paid for Republicans, that the country will be back in the Republicans control to finish what GW and Cheney started, and that is to make America into a 3rd World country, while they go around the world, bullying, lying, stealing and killing to take over their rich natural resources, and pay them slave wages to produce what Big Oil and Big Business wants. Then leave their land baren and toxic.
Keep it up, for America will be in the shape of Mexico, whereby we will be leaving America to find jobs in other countries!
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» RE: Sarah Palin, the Next Great White Hope
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» Some who voted for McCain/Palin were racists, some were just loyal GOP stalwarts...
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» Great White Hope? Nah...
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» RE: Sarah Palin, the Next Great White Hope
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» Well, I'm leaving anyway.
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» Will whites PLEASE stop trying to tell people of color what racism IS
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» KYM525, There is a certain authoritarian sector of the US populace that won't let go of their hatred
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» "Hope" is a Typo. Right?
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Posted by: Lese Majeste on Nov 16, 2009 2:49 AM
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Neither could Bush, but he was able to get re-elected, albeit thru theft.
Obama's set a record for telling lies about the campaign promises he made and people are seeing thru his deceits and are thoroughly pissed that he's shoveling tons of OUR money to Wall Street gangsters while millions are losing their homes to the same.
Not that Palin will be any more truthful, but she's got the knack for inciting people into near lynch mob frenzy and will easily take the 2012 election.
Will the nation continue to slide off a cliff and be run by a different set of greedy fools after 2012?
"You Betcha!"
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» Here is how we get around all that and take advantage of Palin running the GOP.
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» RON PAUL, WTF!!!!
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» CLINTON/DODD 2012
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» Oh, great, two replacement CFR fascist globalists... no thanks.
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» Paul is a carpetbagger Yankee - just like the Bushes.
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» Kusinich wants social program spending; PAUL WANTS TO ABOLISH EVERY SOCIAL PROGRAM!
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» Name one thing I ACTUALLY SAID that isn't true. Just one.
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» Everything you said was typical fast food treatment of his positions.
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Let her lead the party - she's an idiot!
She's splitting the party - of course, she's an idiot!
Hey, sooner or later they may or not recognize the idiocy of her leadership - it'll take months if not years to repair and reorganize the party - well, GREAT!! (...So, shaddup libs, and...) LET THEM DROWN IN THEIR OWN IGNORANCE.
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Posted by: godsbreath64 on Nov 16, 2009 4:25 AM
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Her "Mein Kompf" (finishing what the people elected her for) party-porn, 5 chapter toilet paper dogwhistles to coopt THE KLAN. Look at the last Alaskan governors race to help you along.
Why is this so hard to see?
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» save the fascist republic & 20% off on the empire princess
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» That is exactly why we want her to win the GOP nomination.
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» GOP needs to be more than Socialism-Lite.
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» Limbaugh, is not an indicator of the moderate side, rather of the neocon side of the party...
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» Exactly. Does anyone remember Shuckidoo Bush and the laughter his millenium presidential ideations
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Take That, GOP!
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Nov 16, 2009 6:39 AM
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1980 to 2007
20 YEARS OF 3 CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENTS
18 years Conservative Senate
12 years Conservative House
6 years Total Conserative control
Redistribution of Finances to top 20%.
Folk! It is downhill slide for Middle Class.
FACTS---
1946--1% owned 30% of Total Wealth
1980--20%
thence cometh conservatism
1989-36%
80% Increase in 8 years of Reaganism
2007--20% owned 93% of Total non home Financal Wealth
80% owned equity in homes.
Most major corporations are owned by WALL STREET RICH MEN CASINO
Five Wall Street Banks own 75% of all Bank Deposits in America. 5.
Think that is not POWER???
In 8 years of Bush with 6 years of Total Control
THEY(wall street Rich) created a Net New Jobs of 3000 per month.
Why? That is NET.You take the new jobs created and subtract the ones sent to China, etc
3000! Wow! Bush took over after Clinton had created 237,000 Net New Jobs per month.
Clinton left Bush a spending of 1830 B Per Year.
Bush doubled it by 100% to 3600 B.
Bush inherited a 5500B Debt from Clinton. He took it to 11,500B
20 years of 3 conservative presidents did this horrible thing.
Took the Debt of less than 1000B after 200 years and added on 8000B.
Much of that 8000B went to WALL STREET GAMBLERS.
The people do not know what has happened to them.
Right Wingers yell Rich Pay most of taxes.
Income Taxes.Yes.They have most of the Income.
Yet! Conservative transferred much of taxation from Rich to Middle Class. Reagan voiding Revenue Sharing a disaster for Middle Class
where taxes were transferred from Rich Income taxes to Middle Class in State and Local Taxes. It was a Designed Act of taxtion transfer by Conservatives.
IN 2008 the top 10% paid 30% of total income in
Federal-State-Local Taxes.
Middle Class paid 30%.
A result of Reagan + Bush redistribution from top to Middle Class.
That is not a Progressive Tax System.
Destruction of S&Ls was deliberate act of wealth transfer from 400 local investors to indvidual Rich on Wall Street.
Key actor Michael Milkin became a Multiple Billionaire with income of 550 Million in one year from raiding S&L deposits (plus) for his Rich Corporate Raiders on Walll Street.
Raiders like Perelman and Ichan became mulitple Billionaires.
Sweat of Brow? Ho Ho.
RAPE OF MIDDLE CLASS 1980-2007
Same ideology gave us Great Depression now Great Recession.
It is not a Depression due to:
Democratic Social Safety Nets such as
Social Security and Medicare
Only the uninformed vote to send conservatives to Washington.
Some type f Revolt wil take place in next decade.
Democrats will continue to allow Conservatives with their huge right wing talk shows spreading lies to blame them.
Democrats need a national Megaphone informing all the people as to what has been done and how they have been RAPED by a few million RICH on Wall STreet who have taken their Wealth.
A Producing nation to a Financial Nation.
Remember Rome-Spain-Holland-England-- add on United States of America
I ask one thing.
PROVE ME WRONG.
cswinney2@triad.rr.com
author-Lifeaholic-Workaholic to Lifeaholic success
author-unpublished
All American Party-How Democrats created a great successful Middle Class and how Conservatives will kill it.
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Posted by: popeurbanxxiii on Nov 16, 2009 7:16 AM
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She, and the people she represents, come from a very different place than the "coasters" - the educated people of the East and West Coasts.
"Palinites" are the product of the great "dumbing down of America" that actually began pre St. Ronnie. (Anybody out there remember "New Math" circa early 1970's?) And they wear their anti-intellectualism as a badge of honor.
This ethos is also central to their faith. The "Palinites" follow Tertullian's dictum of Credo quai absurdum (Because it is absurd, I believe) with relish and vigor. Their faith requires them to believe "six impossible things before breakfast". And we want to talk reason and logic with (or even about) these people?
It was a Devil's bargain that brought the evangelicals into the Republican fold. The party leaders used a large measure of cynicism to bring the religious right on board. They were rubes to be used to guarantee electoral victory.
Now the monster is about to kill Dr. Frankenstein in what was a pretty predictable outcome.
To survive the Palin-ization of the Republican party, they are going to have to moderate their extremism, jettison the Palinites, and let them form their "Conservative Party".
I hear Doug Hoffman is available to be party chairman.
Pax...
Pope Urban XXIII
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» I remember the "new math"...
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- Napoleon Bonaparte
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» Exactly...... thank you.
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Posted by: franklyspanking on Nov 16, 2009 7:42 AM
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Hope 'n change, my laddies, hope 'n change!
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» We are currently enjoying "peace and prosperity"???? Where do you live?
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 16, 2009 8:15 AM
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I would like to propose a toast:
Here's to Sarah Palin; may she never - EVER - go away.
I am going to go out on a limb here: No woman since Eleanor Roosevelt has done more to further the cause of progressive politics in the United States of America than our Sarah.
Don'cha just love her? I sure do!
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» Absolutely, she is the death knell and the provider of choice for us.
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Nov 16, 2009 8:37 AM
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Palin is the epitome of what the Republican party has become. She was the natural evolution and outcome of what Karl Rove accelerated when he was Bush's architect. Rove is the mastermind behind how and why Palin represents the Republican party. Altho he didn't directly pick her, he included the voting bloc that admires her into Bush's base. You can thank Rove for this GOP disaster just like you can thank him for the disaster of the Bush years.
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But it is more than that. This woman, egged on by her beliefs, has tapped into a segment of our society that believes violence is the answer to all their ills, and that if God rubber-stamps it in their minds, then they can act with impunity.
This idiot woman is not as stupid as she appears, but she is far from realistic about what she is doing. She has, as the article stated, tapped into a group that are something I do not think she truly understands, and neither do those who are advising her. This group has been waiting for a sign that their day has come, and when it arrives totally, no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be able to stop them.
Charles Dickens once noted that mankind should fear want and ignorance, but most especially ignorance. In this country, our greatest danger is ignorance and we have allowed those we elected to govern us to gut our educational system so badly that ignorance has found a place to grow and flourish. Many of those who are racist or anti-governmental forces that we used to regard as just too far-right because of their ignorance and lack of education, are now finding that they are not in the minority anymore, thanks to this woman. In fact, nearly two whole generations of Americans, with the help of public "education" have joined them in being ignorant of the very basics of democracy or any useful skills in service to a democracy. With this woman as their spokesperson, they have a way to vent the generations of hate and isolation, and they are more than willing to drag along the rest of us into their dangerous actions.
Sarah Palin is an idiot! She is ignorant, and proud of it! And so are those who follow her. I recently had a man in Las Vegas tell me he voted for McCain/Palin in 2008 because he could not trust Obama. I asked him if he thought he could have trusted McCain, and he said No, that McCain would have probably been worse. So I asked him if he thought Palin would have been a better President, and his said, Probably not, but she is so gorgeous she should be President! That was why he voted for them - Palin was gorgeous! (Personally I think she is not so pretty, but I guess if you like the over-made up Tammy Fae Baker look, she is all right.) It did not matter whether she was capable or competent or intelligent. All that mattered was looks, and as long as she was not going to be President, why not?
When 59 million people vote for someone on a Presidential ticket, it better be because they are competent, not pretty. When our nation votes based on looks, rather than substance, we are truly in trouble, and that is what makes this woman so dangerous - people have stopped demanding leadership, just vapid looks and religious rantings are all these people care about, and that is dangerous.
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Posted by: Dorothy Oz on Nov 16, 2009 9:11 AM
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Once Senator Sam Brownback becomes our next governor in Kansas we will see this constellation moving at high speed. Sam, the ultimate Domionist with the charismatic catholics left out of the health care debate will join forces as they already have - and this movement will turn uglier than any of you might care to ponder. The decaying Republican party has allowed itself to be raped and this rising trend of conservativiem will hasten as the economy worsens and as the hatred they are creating will spill over into other disenfranchised and marginalized groups who will take up their cause through our government, because they take dirty money from dirty people who are disquised as do-gooders.
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» WHOM you hate
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Posted by: solrev on Nov 16, 2009 9:15 AM
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Storms are brewing in your eyes,
Sarah,
Now I can realize
Sarah,
You're like a beauty queen
Sarah,
Storms are brewing in your eyes,
Sarah,
Now I can realize
Sarah,
There's danger in your eyes
Sarah
I remember when AlterNet was dancing on Palin’s grave, after she resigned in Alaska. I made some predictions about what Palin was going to do. I got a 1 of course but I also have it documented. In that comment I used the term kingmaker also. Nothing has changed, Palin is a hustler and she is to smart to risk anything running for anything. She can play the heads I win and tales I win game. Right now my early line is on Huckabee, and Palin would rather support than fight Huckabee. If Huckabee wins she wins, if Huckabee loses she wins, now that is a good game to be in. Too bad Obama turned out to be Bush 2.5, he can talk the talk but he can’t walk the walk. However, have no fear the dominion of the born again pagans will be short lived.
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Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Nov 16, 2009 9:24 AM
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cojones [John Conyers]. If he doesn't get either, he will be "swift-boated" or "birthed" into the irrelevance he has earned to date. We deserve better than any of this and perhaps one day we will look to Kucinich for deliverance, but he's "off the table" too! Selah!
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Posted by: liblady2008 on Nov 16, 2009 9:45 AM
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Somehow the wing nuts think not so bright is good, and really bright is bad.
Reagan was not so dumb, but he was no deep thinker and half around the bend by the time he was in office. I doubt Dubya hits 3 digits on the IQ meter. Sarah is kind of like a female Ronnie but even less of a deep thinker with no intellectual curiosity.
God help us if enough people vote for this nut cake to make the election stealable (and they have practice doing that).
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Nov 16, 2009 10:17 AM
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Or then, it is possible she could be the next President.
Oh my god that would be an episode right out of the Twilight Zone.
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Posted by: PaulK on Nov 16, 2009 10:37 AM
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The Republicans will try to cover up certain eyewitnessed racial statements made by the governor, and all the corruption charges in Alaska that she ran away from by suddenly leaving the governorship.
There may or may not be ongoing alcohol, meth and oxycontin problems with some of Mrs. Palin's kids or with her kids' busted friends. For some unknown reason Mrs. Palin's problems as a mother should never reflect on Mrs. Palin's ability to also fail in Washington.
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» LOL, now that was a great analysis...... creative, different, and probably accurate.
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Posted by: bitsfick on Nov 16, 2009 10:42 AM
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Posted by: jareilly on Nov 16, 2009 11:06 AM
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Blumenthal has correctly pointed out, however, why a Left critique of evangelical rightwing hypocricy never works. They don't care, as the Lubbock TX teen sex statistics prove. They don't need to reference the facts, apply reason or look back at the outcomes of their own policy initiatives. They don't care if their ideas don't work in practice. They do not believe that their worldview and it's consequences are subject to debate or analysis.
The sin is not what's important. Like their bumper stickers say, "Not perfect, just saved". As long as there is a public demonstration of remorse, using the proper code words, it doesn't matter how many barnyard animals they bugger or how much meth they cook or oxycontin they sell to teens who then die in fatal head-on car crashes. None of it matters. What matters is God-talk and grievance; the stab in the back; the incurable sense or victimization; the utterly shallow, baseless identification with Jesus on the cross. This maybe and the desperate need to make others behave the same way, in order to justify their own beliefs. These are people who believe that Saddam Hussein must have been behind the 9/11 attacks - Otherwise, why else would "we" have invaded Iraq?
They walk among us in the millions, hermetically sealed in their one-dimensional never-neverland.
As far as Palin's chances at gaining greater power, we'd be fools to overestimate the brains and character of the American voter. Our neighbors put Cheney/Bush in the White House twice (even with election fraud, the margin was close - that's why fraud worked). Obama (whatever we may thing of him) only beat McCain/Palin by a margin of a couple of points in the popular vote and probably only because of the Wall Street crash.
Her cartoonish manner and dimwitted remarks won't be her biggest problem - money will; if she can't raise enough because, for whatever reason, the big money boys won't hand it over, she'll stall out and fade away. If she can, watch out.
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Posted by: DangerDuckie on Nov 16, 2009 11:44 AM
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The Republicans deserve her idiocy...let the theocratic hypocrites of her party build her up, her fall will just be that much sweeter.
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» You sound scared of Palin.
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» Yup. She's full of it, all right.
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» And You're A Defender Of Mediocrity And Ignorance
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» Its that very point that ensures the CFR will want her as a candidate, so they can launch their own
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Posted by: flirt on Nov 16, 2009 1:08 PM
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We really need to convert our political system into one that exists to solve problems. The one we have not is controlled by money; the party in power is just serving a different set of lobbyists...the American people still lose.
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Posted by: snideelf on Nov 16, 2009 1:40 PM
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The Repug Party is now only the party of fringe politics.
The Limburger listeners, Malkin misanthropes, the 15 percent who still say W was a good president.
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» "Bush may have been than ..."??
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Posted by: McGovern72! on Nov 16, 2009 1:52 PM
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However, Going Rogue is credibly reported all over the media as Pslin's own work. This loser can't even get that right.
Why read this tripe any further? Blumthal is no GOPer, so why care what he says about the GOP? I could tell you D&D gamers are going to be bored, but I'm no D&D gamer, so who cares?
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» RE: This article starts off wrong
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» Aren't you embarassed to tell idiotic, provable lies to an audience that KNOWS how stupid they are?
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» AYERS
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Posted by: zigy on Nov 16, 2009 2:05 PM
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» RE: I can't tell - are you madder at the Right or just Christians?
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» Hmm, maybe there is a third option. Maybe not just the strawman you put up - again and again.
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Posted by: rickiey on Nov 16, 2009 2:22 PM
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As much as we'd like for the toughest challenge from the GOP to be Palin, the GOP isn't stupid. Evil, yes. Stupid, no.
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Posted by: Beck on Nov 16, 2009 3:32 PM
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Some suggestions on infiltration
1) pick an extremely leftie avatar - Che Guevara, Ghandhi, A left wing leader of some kind - go all out and lie with pictures on this one.
2) Pick an extremely leftie name - Farleft, ProudCommunist, or a real sounding name.
3) Pick a left-wing cause that won't comprimise your morals too much and consistantly post supportive comments on it. Environmentalism is kind of neutral for example.
4) After a while start posting stories of Jewish influence in the media in terms of right wing jews, something on Muslim immigrants mistreating their women, etc etc.
See how long you can keep it up before they catch on. Test the limits - go for an extreme story once or twice. Have some fun with it.
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» Sounds Like Him All Right, But....
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Posted by: eosrk on Nov 16, 2009 4:30 PM
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» Actually, just delayed it. The neocons need a world war for profit.
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Posted by: Erik1968 on Nov 16, 2009 4:42 PM
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Obama's thin gruel of "hope" and Clinton-lite economics will pave the way for President Palin as surely as Carter's "trust" and tax cuts opened the door for Reagan.
Please, Mr. Obama, do something? Please? Before Palin's brown shirts take over?
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» Zionists Out!
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» Um....
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» Too late, Obama is on a committed path, rather WE have to do something about it.
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Posted by: Lilly on Nov 16, 2009 6:02 PM
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» This is one of the best analyses yet that I have seen of Palin
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Posted by: Scalpel on Nov 16, 2009 6:06 PM
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That is typical behavior of the GOP we know and loathe...but that is not the reason for my title. Hence, my second point...
As time goes on, I grow more disenchanted with most of the commentary I find here. Outside of the handful of thoughtful comments, I usually see one of the following: a)the "rebel" who finds actually doing something about where this country is going less fun than continuing to grumble about it, b)the paranoid who bawks like Chicken Little about how the sky is falling for the nine millionth time and decrees the inevitable doom of the planet, c) the right-winger who drops a post for the sole purpose of stirring shit up or d) the "wave-a-magic-wand" poster who mistook Obama for Dumbledore.
Folks, as much as I know it is hard to believe after all this time, THE BUSH ERA IS OVER. We've been left a lot of fallout that is going to take decades to clean up. We need to seriously ask ourselves two questions: 1)what are we doing to actually make things better (as opposed to, say, shooting off our mouths)? 2) are we actually practicing what we preach in our daily lives? 3) in our undying hatred of the GOP, are we becoming what we loathe?
Think about it, Alterneters. Think about what you really want to be.
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» So, I guess your grumbling post makes you a rebel (choice "a")? n/m
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» RE: So, I guess your grumbling post makes you a rebel (choice "a")? n/m
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» RE: So, I guess your grumbling post makes you a rebel (choice "a")? n/m
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» Yeah, I almost died laughing on that one. Talk about "denial".... lol
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» Thank You! Much Needed Reality Check!
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» Yes, and his falls under Item a. grumbling...... REALITY CHECK with a touch of fantasy.
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Posted by: Bob Horn on Nov 16, 2009 7:07 PM
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Nov 16, 2009 7:33 PM
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Palin's crew, however, have noticed that these "Eastern Establishment" Republicans never did a damned thing for anybody but the rich. They have lost their jobs and abortion is still legal - among other things. They want someone "authentic," a "true believer" and there is no way they will follow anyone else - anymore.
The establishment - the big money guys - ain't gonna support a Palin in a million years. Not unless they are delusional enough to think they can control her, that is. Their real agenda has always been manipulating those nuts so they could further empower the rich; no way they will allow the inmates to run the asylum.
That means a huge split in a party that is already becoming a marginalized, minority party. The Republican party will not survive that split; it is about to go the way of the whigs - because the Palin believers will never accept lip service from the establishment again. Okay, their diminutive memories will be clouded eventually - but by that time, it will be too late.
It will happen, mark my words.
Buy lots of popcorn, it's gonna be fun to watch.
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Nov 16, 2009 8:39 PM
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And how typical of the "birther" and "deather" Charismatics that they think 1) that all of America holds their views, and 2) that their lies, name-calling, and misrepresentations will gather as little notice as they themselves give them. They must indeed think that we are all as stupid as they are.
Unfortunately for them, a lot of us weren't raised in families where plain sense was ushered out the back door, when faith came in the front. We still insist on logic, in making sense of what we see.
It makes no sense to wait for Christ to yank us all bodily into the high air, if we just unhinge our vocal apparatus enough during services. God will not be fooled, by these folks' wishful thinking, into damning more than half of our race, purely along lines of what we happen to believe about Him. If God deserves His press, He's much smarter than that.
The overwhelmingly good news here, is that Sarah's presence may make a Republican bid in 2012 like starting on a cross-country marathon, running on a set of drive-flats. They blow out at around seventy miles run.
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Posted by: ColinLaney on Nov 17, 2009 10:17 AM
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And it doesn't matter if she doesn't have big money backers. The teabagger mailing list will provide.
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» Not only that but it will ensure her a spot on Fox news at good wages.
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