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10 TV Shows You Have to Watch to Understand the World
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When we need a break from the tyranny of reality -- from the forces of injustice and political extremism, Wall Street baddies and corrupt politicians -- there's the sweet escapism only 22 or 42 minutes of scripted life can provide.
It offers a fictional breeze that leaves viewers refreshed, stronger, more savvy. (And it doesn't hurt that on TV, evil has a name and can often be satisfyingly zapped with a little abracadabra or some good old-fashioned wrestling).
Escapism has other benefits as well. Pop-culture literacy is as helpful as historical literacy when it comes to understanding today's world (then leaving the couch to wrestle with real-life villains). And although you might want to peruse the current offerings of the thousand-channel universe, DVD store and download sites, a look to the past, in the form of TV gems from the last few decades, can be just what the doctor ordered.
Look, old TV can be like old jokes -- there's sometimes a best-by date. But old TV can also shine its square, glowing light on today's society. Knowing about Buffy the Vampire Slayer makes you culturally literate in a similar way to Catcher in the Rye. J.R. Ewing from Dallas can be just as instructive as Macbeth or Hamlet.
There are plenty of attempts to list the best TV shows of all time -- some magazines publish one yearly. But this isn't that. This is an admittedly incomplete and subjective list of the 10 sexiest, most stylish shows (that also happen to have cultural significance), because I've noticed they're the ones I hear people talking about the most (go figure).
I'm not suggesting you watch all episodes of every series below -- unless you enjoy pop-culture masochism -- just a few minutes or one episode. Just so that next time someone tells you "the truth is out there," you see the light.
1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997-2003)
Unless you're a Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan (you're rolling your eyes, I know), you probably don't know that Buffy was an ordinary girl with extraordinary powers who completely changed the horror genre and the definition of an action hero. She was the kind of pretty, tiny girl who used to walk down a dark alley … cue scary music and screams. But in Buffy, which still gets exhaustively studied in universities and books, Buffy is the tiny, pretty girl who kills the vampires, ghouls and other evil, then goes home to help her sister (they're orphans) study for a science quiz.
She kicked vampire and sexist butt, and in so doing, became a kind of postfeminist hero(ine) and icon. As the creator, Joss Whedon explained, "The very first mission statement of the show was the joy of female power: having it, using it, sharing it." That's worth 42 minutes.
2. Charlie's Angels (1976-1981)
Three female detectives (Kate Jackson, Jaclyn Smith and Farrah Fawcett) solved cases, an amazing number of which required them to wear little clothing, dress up or get wet. In fact, USA Today wrote, "The gift the Angels gave to TV was sex, in its purest and simplest form."
Although even at the time the "feminist" aspects of the show were considered shaky (this is no Buffy), and the show was even seen as a setback to the women's movement, it certainly kicked its stiletto heels toward a debate about third-wave feminism -- the idea that women with impeccably blow-dried hair could still be powerful.
3. Dallas (1978-1991)
Dallas is about scheming, unapologetic, unrestrained capitalism and sex. The show revolved around the Ewings, a wealthy, ambitious Texas family in the oil and cattle-ranching industries, who had no qualms about dubious ethics in their pursuit of even more power and riches (sound familiar?). There was lotsa barbequin' and boozin' and dealin' and cheatin' and lyin'.
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Posted by: nechayev on Oct 23, 2009 1:51 AM
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Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Oct 23, 2009 2:21 AM
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I watch sitcoms for escapism and fun, but I avoid nearly all non-comedy dramas on TV, maybe because I just don't seem to 'get' them in some basic way. (The crime ones especially I just find depressing.) So I guess I'm open to the concept, but don't understand it.
Of course, it's possible I don't really WANT to understand the world!
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Posted by: LeonBNJ on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 AM
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"Sex and the City", despite it trappings, to me was more about the friendship of these 4 women. It shows them having ups and downs, supportive of each other, having flaws but in the end, the friendship continues. MASH was also about friendship, dealing with challanging situations and people as well as the inhumanity of war.
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Posted by: rugger on Oct 23, 2009 3:48 AM
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How could she omit the truly ground breaking shows like All in The Family? That one blazed a trail for cutting edge, socially relevant comedy, prior to that, the tv landscape was littered with banal stuff like Leave it to Beaver, Green Acres, etc.
My personal favorite, WKRP, also dealt with deep societal issues that plagued the 70's, which along with the 60's was a defining era of the latter 20th century.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 23, 2009 5:50 AM
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TV be is MSM or "shows" have been used to both dumb down and distract Americans from the realities of what is happening in this nation: corrupt politicians selling out to the highest bidder for private gain (oh wait - that's DALLAS), the Corporate high-jacking of "our government", 2 unnecessary wars (oh wait that's MASH), a boorish bullying arrogant spoiled frat boy into government that spied on it's own citizens "trust no one" (oh wait, X-Files)! See "we" don't need to "watch tv", because the reality is "the truth is out there" and if people would take off the blinders, and demand both responsibility and accountability from the government this nation might not be as polarized as a nation, and we actually might not have been so afraid that we allowed this nation to become dragged into these wars of choice!
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Posted by: peppylapew on Oct 23, 2009 5:53 AM
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1)Jack Parr/Johnny Carson (Tonight Show)
2) I Love Lucy
3) That Was the Week That Was
4) American Bandstand
5) CBS News with Walter Cronkite
6) All in the Family
7) MASH
8) Star Trek
9) The Wire
10) Dead Zone/Medium/Ghost Whisperer/Dead Like Me/Pushing Daisies
Parr and Lucy showed us the absurdity of American life, "TWTWT" the absurdity of the news. American Bandstand and CBS News limned the culture. All in the Family, Mash, Star Trek and The Wire raised important questions. The last bullet comprises shows which seem to be designed to alleviate fears of the afterlife --- WTF, must be important!
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Posted by: isnamthere on Oct 23, 2009 5:58 AM
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» And how what one watches is interpreted.
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Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Oct 23, 2009 6:08 AM
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Now TV?
Nice try, Alternet. I know all about your left-wing liberal conspiracy takeover plan. No way will I ever become a pot-smoking Islamic homosexual vegan glued to the television set.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Oct 23, 2009 7:06 AM
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An absurd and entirely unsupported statement which is supposedly the central message of the article. If the author is going to base a four article series on this very controversial point, don't you think she should dedicate at least a sentence or two to supporting the assertion? My first post to the first article said, "TV is at best escapism and T&A," and with Buffy the author has gotten around to TV at its best. As much affection as I have for the work of Joss Whedon, I must say that it is ridiculous to assert that Buffy-watching is essential to the education of a progressive mind. Beyond that, it should be pointed out that all of this mixed bag of reccommendations are not TV shows, but instead ex-TV shows. Consequently the author's point is not only ridiculously wrong, it is irrelevant to current TV programming.
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Posted by: Outspokengrandmother on Oct 23, 2009 8:46 AM
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Posted by: tapadance on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 AM
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Charlies Angels was nothing but bubblegum. It was full of A-Team style violence and dumb plots. I know police officers who have gone decades without ever drawing their gun. The Angels then and CSI now show bullets flying about with the regularity of starlings.
Sadly the author also made some mistakes in her research. No one ever said "Beam me up Scotty".
Buffy did not start out as an orphan, but as the daughter of a single parent Joyce, who died of a brain aneurysm at the end of season five. A younger sister, Dawn arrived in season five as well. She was not a true sibling, but the Key turned into human form.
Can we go back to real reporting now, instead of watching tv. I read popwatch and twp for that.
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 AM
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Other than some mildly entertaning moments, NONE of these shows display much in the way of any meaningful message.
Remember the old Captain Marvel comics, before the nitwits at the Comics Code ruined it?
Now, there was entertainment for all age groups.
For the kids, the evil Dr. Savannah was forever cooking up some nefarious plot to take over the world or create a major pain in the ass for Billy Batson, AKA Captain Marvel.
He employed a hypnotic device disguised as a medical tool to give poor Billy "shazamphobia", therefore making it impossible for him to transform himself into superhero, Captain Marvel for fear of the word "Shazam".
And, how about the giantic hammer the evil scientist constructed to extort the world to bend to his will or else face the destruction of the world via the hammer?
This comic book was clearly written on two levels, one for the kids to thrill over and the other with subtle humor for the adults.
Naturally, the fatheads at the Comics Code either ignored or were BRIBED to ignore the value of this means of entertainment, and killed Captain Marvel, Mary Marvel, and Captain Marvel jr.
In my mind, none of the aforementioned TV shows would hold a candle to the Marvels or their lessons on life.
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Posted by: nechayev on Oct 23, 2009 9:40 AM
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Our history will be what we make it. And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live. I invite your attention to the television schedules of all networks between the hours of 8 and 11 p.m., Eastern Time. Here you will find only fleeting and spasmodic reference to the fact that this nation is in mortal danger. There are, it is true, occasional informative programs presented in that intellectual ghetto on Sunday afternoons. But during the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live. If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: LOOK NOW, PAY LATER.
full text http://www.turnoffyourtv.com General Commentary, Hidden Agenda.
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Posted by: just john on Oct 23, 2009 10:36 AM
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And I question whether any world where "Melrose Place" is considered essential really needs to be understood by outsiders.
But here's a BIG omission from your list: Any hospital shows. "St. Elsewhere," "Scrubs," "House" .... ?? (Okay, yeah, "Hospital" is the "H" in "M*A*S*H," but I don't think it counts.) Without hospital shows and the worship of Big Medicine they encourage, would our health industry look anything like it does?
Without the gadgetry gee-whiz of the CSI shows and the like, would our "War On Drugs" have any support?
And how can you leave out "The Rockford Files"? That was the perfect show. Everybody loves James Garner, and for those who don't, he gets beat up every episode. And there's that amazingly satisfying synth line in the show's theme. It beats "Charlie's Angels" any day of the week.
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Posted by: Parcival01 on Oct 23, 2009 11:21 AM
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It was clearly a political/socials statement. (It came out again in the 90s and many of them are even better, but it didn't have much of an audience.)
Then there's "The Twilight Zone," stories made up to make a social/political point in ways that Hollywood wouldn't not the point(s) being made.
If there is such a list, it's invalid without those classics.
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Posted by: Cybershaman on Oct 23, 2009 11:24 AM
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The show 'Happy Days' was a pivotal point in the paradigm shift. The character of the Fonz was designed to shift the bad boy image from 'On the Waterfront' character played by Brando into a sellout do gooder who defended the status quo.
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Posted by: lynmarenjensen on Oct 23, 2009 11:24 AM
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I perhaps have watched a grand total of two of these shows and I understand the world just fine. It appears to be written by someone who thinks if she's watched all these shows, then she understands the world better than if she actually had to leave her TV set and face reality!
I might buy the inclusion of "Star Trek," in terms of entertainment, but that's it--and even that one is maybe #20 when it comes to "understanding the world." To me that means something more, uumm, educational.
To match the title, here are ten shows that may actually help us understand the world (yes, it was hard to find ten):
1. Jon Stewart.
2. Steven Colbert.
3. 60 Minutes.
4. The McLaughlin Group.
5. Jim Leher Newshour.
6. Keith Olbermann (if he even has a show).
7. Rachael Maddow.
8. "The Smothers Brothers" (if those shows aren't on DVD, they should be).
9. At the Movies.
10. "Survivor."
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» Smothers Brothers DVDs are being released.
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» Survivor? Seriously....
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 23, 2009 11:30 AM
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Pup cultural crits help us writers pay some bills now and again. And it's fun.
Mostly it's about common ground with strangers. We Trekkies and Filers know each other, even when we don't.
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Posted by: Lilly on Oct 23, 2009 11:51 AM
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Sometimes the identification is therapeutic. For example, after World War II when Japan had experienced the atomic bomb, radiation sickness etc, the Japanese movie industry put out a lot of trash movies in which some kind of monster is destroying/devastating/devouring civilization until, with courage and skill, some individual or group vanquishes the evil-doer. Thus our fear is raised but we identify with the victor (for good) and feel safer.
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Posted by: ClassAct on Oct 23, 2009 1:08 PM
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Posted by: MJ Fields on Oct 23, 2009 1:09 PM
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Posted by: SufiLizard on Oct 23, 2009 2:07 PM
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I'm all for escapist fiction and even television. I watch some dumb shows just to unwind. I even agree there is some real value and insight to be gained from popular entertainment -- comic books, pop novels, movies and television.
This list, however, is horrible. There were a couple of worthwhile shows like MASH and Star Trek. But Dallas? Melrose Place? I'll even give you Buffy, but some of the shows on this list are direct contributors to the decline of our civilization.
Seriously, I think this is the lamest article I've ever read on Alternet.
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Posted by: Longdream on Oct 23, 2009 2:29 PM
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I whipped through all the on-demand episodes, and did the whole season in two sittings, and now I'm drooling.
It's wonderfully complex in character, and shows all the random weird ways of human relationships. People are great sometimes, fucked up sometimes, and sometimes make disastrous mistakes. Life.
It's set in an ER, but it could be anyplace--the setting isn't one of the characters for a change, just provides window dressing and detail.
I love Edie Falco. Is the show saying something about our culture? While showing us how people today function in order to get by their hard days without going nuts, it also shows how life just rolls right along, except when it doesn't.
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Posted by: rafaeltoral on Oct 23, 2009 3:14 PM
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People that think like you scare me. Or should I say people that dont think. Rather, People who are incapable of thought.
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 23, 2009 3:24 PM
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1. That Was The Week That Was/Saturday Night Live/Soul Train tie
2. David Frost/Star Trek tie
3. Julia/ Get Christie Love tie
4. Phil Donahue/Smothers Brothers tie
5. Arsenio Hall
6. Homoside Life On The Streets
7. Laugh In
8. Cosby Show
9. Different World
10. Living Single
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 23, 2009 3:24 PM
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1. That Was The Week That Was/Saturday Night Live/Soul Train tie
2. David Frost/Star Trek tie
3. Julia/ Get Christie Love tie
4. Phil Donahue/Smothers Brothers tie
5. Arsenio Hall
6. Homoside Life On The Streets
7. Laugh In
8. Cosby Show
9. Different World
10. Living Single
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 23, 2009 7:25 PM
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Posted by: Old Uncle Dave on Oct 23, 2009 7:30 PM
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-- Monty Hall (Or not.)
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 23, 2009 7:40 PM
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They are ALL AMERICAN
How The Hell Can You Understand The World By Looking Up Your Own ARSEHOLE?
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Posted by: noir on Oct 23, 2009 11:41 PM
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In any case, not all popular TV shows are, or are intended to be, mindless entertainment.
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Posted by: dadanbetty on Oct 24, 2009 4:54 AM
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Posted by: Alenna on Oct 24, 2009 1:22 PM
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Cop shows:
Dragnet - Adam 12 - The Mod Squad - Cagney & Lacy - Hill Street Blues - NYPD Blue - The Wire
Teen shows:
Happy Days - Room 222 - The Partridge Family - 90210 - My So-Called Life - Veronica Mars
Family Sitcoms:
Father Knows Best - All in the Family - The Cosby Show - The Simpsons - ?
Medical Dramas:
Marcus Welby, MD - Emergency - ER - Gray's Anatomy
Science Fiction:
Land of the Giants - Star Trek - Babylon 5 - Firefly - Battlestar Galactica
Legal shows:
Perry Mason - The Paper Chase - Matlock - LA Law - Law & Order - Boston Legal
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Posted by: *mmc on Oct 28, 2009 12:56 PM
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Posted by: katfish on Oct 28, 2009 2:07 PM
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Um, why do you suppose we're so universally resented?
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Posted by: nechayev on Oct 23, 2009 1:51 AM
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Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Oct 23, 2009 2:21 AM
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I watch sitcoms for escapism and fun, but I avoid nearly all non-comedy dramas on TV, maybe because I just don't seem to 'get' them in some basic way. (The crime ones especially I just find depressing.) So I guess I'm open to the concept, but don't understand it.
Of course, it's possible I don't really WANT to understand the world!
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Posted by: LeonBNJ on Oct 23, 2009 3:45 AM
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"Sex and the City", despite it trappings, to me was more about the friendship of these 4 women. It shows them having ups and downs, supportive of each other, having flaws but in the end, the friendship continues. MASH was also about friendship, dealing with challanging situations and people as well as the inhumanity of war.
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Posted by: rugger on Oct 23, 2009 3:48 AM
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How could she omit the truly ground breaking shows like All in The Family? That one blazed a trail for cutting edge, socially relevant comedy, prior to that, the tv landscape was littered with banal stuff like Leave it to Beaver, Green Acres, etc.
My personal favorite, WKRP, also dealt with deep societal issues that plagued the 70's, which along with the 60's was a defining era of the latter 20th century.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 23, 2009 5:50 AM
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TV be is MSM or "shows" have been used to both dumb down and distract Americans from the realities of what is happening in this nation: corrupt politicians selling out to the highest bidder for private gain (oh wait - that's DALLAS), the Corporate high-jacking of "our government", 2 unnecessary wars (oh wait that's MASH), a boorish bullying arrogant spoiled frat boy into government that spied on it's own citizens "trust no one" (oh wait, X-Files)! See "we" don't need to "watch tv", because the reality is "the truth is out there" and if people would take off the blinders, and demand both responsibility and accountability from the government this nation might not be as polarized as a nation, and we actually might not have been so afraid that we allowed this nation to become dragged into these wars of choice!
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Posted by: peppylapew on Oct 23, 2009 5:53 AM
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1)Jack Parr/Johnny Carson (Tonight Show)
2) I Love Lucy
3) That Was the Week That Was
4) American Bandstand
5) CBS News with Walter Cronkite
6) All in the Family
7) MASH
8) Star Trek
9) The Wire
10) Dead Zone/Medium/Ghost Whisperer/Dead Like Me/Pushing Daisies
Parr and Lucy showed us the absurdity of American life, "TWTWT" the absurdity of the news. American Bandstand and CBS News limned the culture. All in the Family, Mash, Star Trek and The Wire raised important questions. The last bullet comprises shows which seem to be designed to alleviate fears of the afterlife --- WTF, must be important!
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Posted by: isnamthere on Oct 23, 2009 5:58 AM
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Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Oct 23, 2009 6:08 AM
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Now TV?
Nice try, Alternet. I know all about your left-wing liberal conspiracy takeover plan. No way will I ever become a pot-smoking Islamic homosexual vegan glued to the television set.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Oct 23, 2009 7:06 AM
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An absurd and entirely unsupported statement which is supposedly the central message of the article. If the author is going to base a four article series on this very controversial point, don't you think she should dedicate at least a sentence or two to supporting the assertion? My first post to the first article said, "TV is at best escapism and T&A," and with Buffy the author has gotten around to TV at its best. As much affection as I have for the work of Joss Whedon, I must say that it is ridiculous to assert that Buffy-watching is essential to the education of a progressive mind. Beyond that, it should be pointed out that all of this mixed bag of reccommendations are not TV shows, but instead ex-TV shows. Consequently the author's point is not only ridiculously wrong, it is irrelevant to current TV programming.
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Posted by: Outspokengrandmother on Oct 23, 2009 8:46 AM
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Posted by: tapadance on Oct 23, 2009 9:18 AM
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Charlies Angels was nothing but bubblegum. It was full of A-Team style violence and dumb plots. I know police officers who have gone decades without ever drawing their gun. The Angels then and CSI now show bullets flying about with the regularity of starlings.
Sadly the author also made some mistakes in her research. No one ever said "Beam me up Scotty".
Buffy did not start out as an orphan, but as the daughter of a single parent Joyce, who died of a brain aneurysm at the end of season five. A younger sister, Dawn arrived in season five as well. She was not a true sibling, but the Key turned into human form.
Can we go back to real reporting now, instead of watching tv. I read popwatch and twp for that.
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 23, 2009 9:26 AM
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Other than some mildly entertaning moments, NONE of these shows display much in the way of any meaningful message.
Remember the old Captain Marvel comics, before the nitwits at the Comics Code ruined it?
Now, there was entertainment for all age groups.
For the kids, the evil Dr. Savannah was forever cooking up some nefarious plot to take over the world or create a major pain in the ass for Billy Batson, AKA Captain Marvel.
He employed a hypnotic device disguised as a medical tool to give poor Billy "shazamphobia", therefore making it impossible for him to transform himself into superhero, Captain Marvel for fear of the word "Shazam".
And, how about the giantic hammer the evil scientist constructed to extort the world to bend to his will or else face the destruction of the world via the hammer?
This comic book was clearly written on two levels, one for the kids to thrill over and the other with subtle humor for the adults.
Naturally, the fatheads at the Comics Code either ignored or were BRIBED to ignore the value of this means of entertainment, and killed Captain Marvel, Mary Marvel, and Captain Marvel jr.
In my mind, none of the aforementioned TV shows would hold a candle to the Marvels or their lessons on life.
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Posted by: nechayev on Oct 23, 2009 9:40 AM
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Our history will be what we make it. And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live. I invite your attention to the television schedules of all networks between the hours of 8 and 11 p.m., Eastern Time. Here you will find only fleeting and spasmodic reference to the fact that this nation is in mortal danger. There are, it is true, occasional informative programs presented in that intellectual ghetto on Sunday afternoons. But during the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live. If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: LOOK NOW, PAY LATER.
full text http://www.turnoffyourtv.com General Commentary, Hidden Agenda.
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Posted by: just john on Oct 23, 2009 10:36 AM
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And I question whether any world where "Melrose Place" is considered essential really needs to be understood by outsiders.
But here's a BIG omission from your list: Any hospital shows. "St. Elsewhere," "Scrubs," "House" .... ?? (Okay, yeah, "Hospital" is the "H" in "M*A*S*H," but I don't think it counts.) Without hospital shows and the worship of Big Medicine they encourage, would our health industry look anything like it does?
Without the gadgetry gee-whiz of the CSI shows and the like, would our "War On Drugs" have any support?
And how can you leave out "The Rockford Files"? That was the perfect show. Everybody loves James Garner, and for those who don't, he gets beat up every episode. And there's that amazingly satisfying synth line in the show's theme. It beats "Charlie's Angels" any day of the week.
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Posted by: Parcival01 on Oct 23, 2009 11:21 AM
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It was clearly a political/socials statement. (It came out again in the 90s and many of them are even better, but it didn't have much of an audience.)
Then there's "The Twilight Zone," stories made up to make a social/political point in ways that Hollywood wouldn't not the point(s) being made.
If there is such a list, it's invalid without those classics.
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Posted by: Cybershaman on Oct 23, 2009 11:24 AM
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The show 'Happy Days' was a pivotal point in the paradigm shift. The character of the Fonz was designed to shift the bad boy image from 'On the Waterfront' character played by Brando into a sellout do gooder who defended the status quo.
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Posted by: lynmarenjensen on Oct 23, 2009 11:24 AM
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I perhaps have watched a grand total of two of these shows and I understand the world just fine. It appears to be written by someone who thinks if she's watched all these shows, then she understands the world better than if she actually had to leave her TV set and face reality!
I might buy the inclusion of "Star Trek," in terms of entertainment, but that's it--and even that one is maybe #20 when it comes to "understanding the world." To me that means something more, uumm, educational.
To match the title, here are ten shows that may actually help us understand the world (yes, it was hard to find ten):
1. Jon Stewart.
2. Steven Colbert.
3. 60 Minutes.
4. The McLaughlin Group.
5. Jim Leher Newshour.
6. Keith Olbermann (if he even has a show).
7. Rachael Maddow.
8. "The Smothers Brothers" (if those shows aren't on DVD, they should be).
9. At the Movies.
10. "Survivor."
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 23, 2009 11:30 AM
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Pup cultural crits help us writers pay some bills now and again. And it's fun.
Mostly it's about common ground with strangers. We Trekkies and Filers know each other, even when we don't.
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Posted by: Lilly on Oct 23, 2009 11:51 AM
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Sometimes the identification is therapeutic. For example, after World War II when Japan had experienced the atomic bomb, radiation sickness etc, the Japanese movie industry put out a lot of trash movies in which some kind of monster is destroying/devastating/devouring civilization until, with courage and skill, some individual or group vanquishes the evil-doer. Thus our fear is raised but we identify with the victor (for good) and feel safer.
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Posted by: ClassAct on Oct 23, 2009 1:08 PM
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Posted by: MJ Fields on Oct 23, 2009 1:09 PM
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Posted by: SufiLizard on Oct 23, 2009 2:07 PM
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I'm all for escapist fiction and even television. I watch some dumb shows just to unwind. I even agree there is some real value and insight to be gained from popular entertainment -- comic books, pop novels, movies and television.
This list, however, is horrible. There were a couple of worthwhile shows like MASH and Star Trek. But Dallas? Melrose Place? I'll even give you Buffy, but some of the shows on this list are direct contributors to the decline of our civilization.
Seriously, I think this is the lamest article I've ever read on Alternet.
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Posted by: Longdream on Oct 23, 2009 2:29 PM
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I whipped through all the on-demand episodes, and did the whole season in two sittings, and now I'm drooling.
It's wonderfully complex in character, and shows all the random weird ways of human relationships. People are great sometimes, fucked up sometimes, and sometimes make disastrous mistakes. Life.
It's set in an ER, but it could be anyplace--the setting isn't one of the characters for a change, just provides window dressing and detail.
I love Edie Falco. Is the show saying something about our culture? While showing us how people today function in order to get by their hard days without going nuts, it also shows how life just rolls right along, except when it doesn't.
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Posted by: rafaeltoral on Oct 23, 2009 3:14 PM
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People that think like you scare me. Or should I say people that dont think. Rather, People who are incapable of thought.
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 23, 2009 3:24 PM
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1. That Was The Week That Was/Saturday Night Live/Soul Train tie
2. David Frost/Star Trek tie
3. Julia/ Get Christie Love tie
4. Phil Donahue/Smothers Brothers tie
5. Arsenio Hall
6. Homoside Life On The Streets
7. Laugh In
8. Cosby Show
9. Different World
10. Living Single
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Posted by: desidid on Oct 23, 2009 3:24 PM
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1. That Was The Week That Was/Saturday Night Live/Soul Train tie
2. David Frost/Star Trek tie
3. Julia/ Get Christie Love tie
4. Phil Donahue/Smothers Brothers tie
5. Arsenio Hall
6. Homoside Life On The Streets
7. Laugh In
8. Cosby Show
9. Different World
10. Living Single
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Posted by: MartianBachelor on Oct 23, 2009 3:46 PM
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 23, 2009 7:25 PM
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Tony
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Posted by: Old Uncle Dave on Oct 23, 2009 7:30 PM
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-- Monty Hall (Or not.)
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 23, 2009 7:40 PM
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They are ALL AMERICAN
How The Hell Can You Understand The World By Looking Up Your Own ARSEHOLE?
Tony
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Posted by: noir on Oct 23, 2009 11:41 PM
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In any case, not all popular TV shows are, or are intended to be, mindless entertainment.
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Posted by: dadanbetty on Oct 24, 2009 4:54 AM
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Posted by: Alenna on Oct 24, 2009 1:22 PM
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Cop shows:
Dragnet - Adam 12 - The Mod Squad - Cagney & Lacy - Hill Street Blues - NYPD Blue - The Wire
Teen shows:
Happy Days - Room 222 - The Partridge Family - 90210 - My So-Called Life - Veronica Mars
Family Sitcoms:
Father Knows Best - All in the Family - The Cosby Show - The Simpsons - ?
Medical Dramas:
Marcus Welby, MD - Emergency - ER - Gray's Anatomy
Science Fiction:
Land of the Giants - Star Trek - Babylon 5 - Firefly - Battlestar Galactica
Legal shows:
Perry Mason - The Paper Chase - Matlock - LA Law - Law & Order - Boston Legal
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Posted by: katfish on Oct 28, 2009 2:07 PM
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Um, why do you suppose we're so universally resented?
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