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CodePink Founder Jodie Evans Challenges Obama Up Close and Personal on His Afghanistan Policy
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Everyone in the universe by now knows that the progressive anti-war group CodePink has plenty of chutzpah. But co-founder Jodie Evans really doesn't mess around. She went straight to the top and challenged Barack Obama face-to-face on his visit to San Francisco on Thursday night at a high-priced fund raiser at the Westin St. Francis hotel.
Armed with the signatures of thousands of Afghan women who don't want Obama to send more troops, and for the U.S. occupation to come to an end after a reconciliation process, Evans had an intimate on-on-one with the president, where she told him explicitly that women need to be at the table in any negotiations to alter or end the war. She was wearing a pink shirt with "End The Afghan Quagmire" written on it, and showed her sartorial splendor to Obama.
Evans told me later that the evening at the Rain Forest Action Network fundraiser at the Bentley Reserve that Obama was friendly and listened carefully -- you can see in the video that he has his arm around her -- but that he didn't quite get her message at first. According to Evans, when she raised the issue of women and war, he said, "Well we have Hillary and the Ambassador. And I said no, the Afghan women. And he said oh. "
How did Evans manage to have this little chat with the President? Well, the old fashioned way. She paid for it. Realizing that they had an opportunity to get through to the Commander-in-Chief unfiltered, a supporter forked over $30,400 for two tickets to attend the super-intimate gathering, where only the crème de la crème of big money donors were hanging with the president.
Earlier in the month, Evans recently visited Afghanistan over a ten-day period along with a group of CodePink activists, and she was clear in a recent AlterNet article about what she saw -- a humanitarian crisis: "The United States has spent a quarter of a trillion dollars in eight years of military action: what have we achieved? Most of the country is in worse condition, the bordering countries are less stable and death fills the air. According to the United Nations, Afghanistan is ranked 181 out of 182 countries for human development indices. Life expectancy has fallen to 43 years since the U.S. invasion. Forty percent of the population is unemployed, and 42 percent live on less than $1 a day."
There is a schism among American feminist groups, where some -- particularly Ms. Magazine and its parent group The Feminist Majority Foundation -- support escalation in Afghanistan as a strategy for protecting women's rights. But many other women -- particularly activists like the women of CodePink, who have a long anti-war history -- think that is a huge mistake and insist that most of the women in Afghanistan do not want more military, more war. It makes their lives even worse, if that is possible, while the discredited President Karzai, whose re-election seems fatally tainted by fraud and corruption and the warlords who control chunks of the countryside, shows little interest in supporting women's rights -- a recent law "explicitly legalizes marital rape as well as forcing women to dress and make themselves up (while in the home, of course) according to their husband’s demands, outlawing the ability to leave the home without a husband or a good reason to do so, and automatically granting custody of children to the male relatives (fathers or grandfathers)," according to an article posted on the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan.
In a recent CodePink video interview, Afghan Parliament member Roshanak Wardak makes the position clear: "Most of the women do not want more troops -- they need support to sustain their lives." The CodePink delegation spoke with journalists, doctors, activists, NGOs, members of government and average Afghan women. The main message they heard is they "want the U.S. investment to reflect what is needed to bring peace. They need investment in the people of Afghanistan."
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Oct 17, 2009 7:05 PM
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Something's wrong with that picture. How can we claim to be remotely democratic when a vast majority of citizens would have to spend half a year's earnings just to have access to to an elected public figure?
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Posted by: newsound on Oct 17, 2009 9:31 PM
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Would she have even gotten in the door with that pink shirt? And if so . . . would Bush have been "friendly and listened carefully?"
Little changes here and there . . . let's hope there are some big ones on the way too. With people like Jodie out there, it is possible.
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Posted by: Paul_C on Oct 17, 2009 11:21 PM
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I get a decidedly creepy feeling from this.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Oct 18, 2009 12:07 AM
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Obama is merely Rahm's front-man & lackey.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Oct 18, 2009 3:01 AM
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Asking Obama to help with women's rights is like appealing to the morals of a thief.
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Posted by: improperly_sedated on Oct 18, 2009 3:08 AM
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As if any of this mattered in Imperial America.
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Posted by: Lese Majeste on Oct 18, 2009 3:16 AM
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So why is Evans protesting against that war?
Or is Evans the one with principles and Benjamin only a conveninet distraction?
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Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM
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Without Code Pink where would the left be? Their dedication and heroism in the face of overwhelming odds and obstacles is a beacon of light in an otherwise mostly bewildered and befuddled morass of supposedly left-wing and progressive organizations.
Do you hear about any other organizations taking it to Congress and Obama? ... Most have fallen silent, many endorse Obama in direct conflict with their stated goals.
Thank God for Code Pink ...
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 18, 2009 3:59 PM
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Now that the archival evidence has been revealed that Mussolini was a paid agent of the British Empire, I would think the so-called Left would be less inclined to ignore the evidence of banker complicity in the rise of the Bolsheviks in Russia and that paperhanging Sierra-Oscar-Bravo in Germany.
Code Pink, Solon and all the Soros funded fronts are all just 'ropers'...trying to keep the American herd on a steady course, ambling along to the slaughter house...bringing in any strays.
Its funny how many 'anti-war' liberals just up and shut up when the Democrats won...how things quietened down when Bush's evil war became Obama's war for women's rights.
Only the libertarian based 'ANTIWAR.COM' and anti New World Order activists, like Alex Jones have remained consistently and unequivocably in favour of peace and against the kind of criminality exemplified by the Bush Regime and now by the Goldman Sachs' Regime with its Barrack Obama hand puppet.
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Posted by: Plexius2 on Oct 18, 2009 4:43 PM
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If we spend half of every billion dollars to kill the repressives, we ought to be able to eliminate them pretty quickly. In fact the fastest way to do that would be to post a reward for their deaths. Half a billion dollars divided up into one million dollar bounties on the heads of Al Quaeda and Taliban leaders (that is one million American dollars on the heads of 500 of the upper echelon leaders) is consistent with Middle Eastern political structures wherein fatwas and kidnappings for ransom are a standard aspect of warfare dating back at least to Cervantes who was captured, ransomed and released after the payment was made. And that was hundreds years ago. If the Middle Easterners understand anything, it is money. Buy the heads of Al Quaeda and Taliban leaders at one million bucks apiece, and the insurgency will fall apart very quickly. Plus you save a lot of civilian and military lives at the same time. Doesn't get much better than that.
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Posted by: dadanbetty on Oct 19, 2009 3:20 AM
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Posted by: smf1403 on Oct 19, 2009 5:56 AM
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$30,400. that Ms. Evans spent (Code Pink's contributors spent) to get an audience with Obama does not compare to the billions of dollars war profiteers will make off Afghanistan.
I think Jodie and friends need to come back down to Earth a little and stop wasting their contributors money. This stunt is clearly not remotely a blip on Obama's radar.
The pipeline is the prize in Afghanistan and Obama and gang will not be taking their eye off the prize for little Jodie Evans or her $30,400.
This is disgusting and pathetic.
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 19, 2009 9:20 AM
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Obama's War in Afghanistan has protected the Opium producers and their rump Karzai Regime in Kabul. It is, of course, supported by the Zionist Neo-Con/Neo-Liberals of the Democratic Leadership Conference and their fellow travelers--the Republicans...the same folks who support the colonization of the West Bank and the continuation of the Gaza Gulag...the same folks who support the continued occupation of Iraq...the same folks who support and fund the undeclared war against Iran...the same folks who supported the trillions in welfare to Goldman Sachs, AIG and the rest of the Corporatist Establishment.
Code Stink has its man in office to run the war and is loathe to criticize him...just as NOW put politics first and supported Clinton...dreaming of power and great big cee-gars...
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 19, 2009 10:04 AM
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It took him seven minutes of furious "thinking" to realize he wasn't The Man, after all, but just a front for Poppie and The Gang. That was HIS defining moment.
Who wouldn't LOVE to hear the conversation between Obama and Gen. Mcjerk ( you know, the assassin in charge of Afghanistan) in Air Force One?
Was this the time said general told Obama who's REALLY running the show?
Was this Obama's defining moment?
Think about what the warlords have to lose if we suddenly decided to leave those two unfortunate nations.
Their pathological greed and completely amoral nature are well known to anyone who takes the time to study the matter.
Given their history of sacrificing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, and laying to waste Iraq and Afghanistan for fun and profit, do you think they intend to let Obama, or anyone else for that matter, get in their way?
Is there any way they can be stopped?
Theoretically, yes, but is civilian control of our military still there?
We'll find out soon enough, I guess.
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Posted by: Nitestallion on Oct 19, 2009 11:42 AM
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What is it about no more war these politicos don't get: WAR IS A RACKET ~ Maj. General Smedley D. Butler, USMC RET. Double Medal of Honor holder.
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Posted by: Rusty Shackleford on Oct 19, 2009 12:43 PM
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We all know that. We've been over it a million times.
The war is a dead end. We're never going to "accomplish" anything.
We need to withdraw.
The thing I'm concerned about was that bit about it costing $34,000 for two tickets just to get close to the president.
I'm sorry... but how is that beneficial to a nation? AT ALL?!?!
This is why I keep writing posts advocating the dissolution of the union. We're simply too big.
Smaller, regional governments in this country could more easily address the problems we face.
Over 300 million people clamoring to be heard by a mere 538 representatives? Not good.
Not to mention all the advantages that would accompany secession...
The red states get to outlaw abortion and homosexuality.
The blue states get to join the Kyoto protocol and advance stem cell research, and do everything we want to do.
No more crushing deadlock between liberals and conservatives.
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Oct 19, 2009 5:58 PM
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1. Send advisors not to lead milikill missions but to help develop both industrial hemp and skunkweed industries, the latter including the manufacture of THC formula to be loaded in e-cigarette cartridges for worldwide export replacing the narcotics.
2. From high-unemployment countries such as Afghanistan, import guestworkers to the US, especially drought zones like California, to participate in biofuels-abatement, i.e. clipping trillions of dead branches to prevent billion-dollar fires, conversion of urban scrap lumber into thrift-store shelving etc. Use both government and contracting companies to provide the workers with encouragements such as free campsite housing, catered nutritious meals, free English and Spanish language lessons, access to innanet, and some wages they can send home to mother. Spending tax payer money this way makes more sense to me than spending it trying to kill the same youngsters once unemployment has made them recruitable into the militant organizations.
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Oct 17, 2009 7:05 PM
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Something's wrong with that picture. How can we claim to be remotely democratic when a vast majority of citizens would have to spend half a year's earnings just to have access to to an elected public figure?
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Posted by: newsound on Oct 17, 2009 9:31 PM
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Would she have even gotten in the door with that pink shirt? And if so . . . would Bush have been "friendly and listened carefully?"
Little changes here and there . . . let's hope there are some big ones on the way too. With people like Jodie out there, it is possible.
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Posted by: Paul_C on Oct 17, 2009 11:21 PM
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I get a decidedly creepy feeling from this.
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Oct 18, 2009 12:07 AM
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Obama is merely Rahm's front-man & lackey.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Oct 18, 2009 3:01 AM
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Asking Obama to help with women's rights is like appealing to the morals of a thief.
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Posted by: improperly_sedated on Oct 18, 2009 3:08 AM
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As if any of this mattered in Imperial America.
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Posted by: Lese Majeste on Oct 18, 2009 3:16 AM
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So why is Evans protesting against that war?
Or is Evans the one with principles and Benjamin only a conveninet distraction?
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I type the security letters into the box, but the fucked up Alternet security software keeps telling me that I have typed the wrong letters. If this happens to you too, please contact Alternet. Maybe somebody there will stop napping and do something about it.
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Posted by: eosrk on Oct 18, 2009 12:54 PM
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Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM
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Without Code Pink where would the left be? Their dedication and heroism in the face of overwhelming odds and obstacles is a beacon of light in an otherwise mostly bewildered and befuddled morass of supposedly left-wing and progressive organizations.
Do you hear about any other organizations taking it to Congress and Obama? ... Most have fallen silent, many endorse Obama in direct conflict with their stated goals.
Thank God for Code Pink ...
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 18, 2009 3:59 PM
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Now that the archival evidence has been revealed that Mussolini was a paid agent of the British Empire, I would think the so-called Left would be less inclined to ignore the evidence of banker complicity in the rise of the Bolsheviks in Russia and that paperhanging Sierra-Oscar-Bravo in Germany.
Code Pink, Solon and all the Soros funded fronts are all just 'ropers'...trying to keep the American herd on a steady course, ambling along to the slaughter house...bringing in any strays.
Its funny how many 'anti-war' liberals just up and shut up when the Democrats won...how things quietened down when Bush's evil war became Obama's war for women's rights.
Only the libertarian based 'ANTIWAR.COM' and anti New World Order activists, like Alex Jones have remained consistently and unequivocably in favour of peace and against the kind of criminality exemplified by the Bush Regime and now by the Goldman Sachs' Regime with its Barrack Obama hand puppet.
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» Exactly, god knows we have suffered enough already at the hands of the Free Marketeers.
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» Libertarians want government off our backs
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» Funny that government used to work ok, or that it works just fine in so many other countries -
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» RE: Funny that government used to work ok, or that it works just fine in so many other countries -
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» RE: Again, you claim democratic activism as your own while disowning libertarianism
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» Wow, you are all over the place!
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» RE: Wow, you are all over the place!
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» RE: States have shown themselves incapable of regulating interstate business
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» RE: Short reply...
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» I thought the Sherman Antitrust Act was much later than 1890!
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» RE: I thought the Sherman Antitrust Act was much later than 1890!
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» RE: We haven't had a "free market" in America in decades...
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» You are rewriting history
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» RE: Both JP Morgan and JD Rockefeller hated competition and wanted monopoly capitalism.
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» All you are doing is denying and now making excuses
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» RE: All you are doing is denying and now making excuses
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» I don't disagree with those remedies, no progressive would, but
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» RE: I don't disagree with those remedies, no progressive would, but
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» Your last sentence is key for me
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» RE: Your last sentence is key for me
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» RE: Hmmm, looks like you are growing incoherent in your broadsides, PrinzoFails.
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» RE: Hmmm, looks like you are growing incoherent in your broadsides, PrinzoFails.
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» RE: I just LOVE it when lowbrows like Prinsowhales make claims with zero evidence.
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» RE: Thank you, MyLeftFoot, for proving some evidence to support
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» RE: Thank you, MyLeftFoot, for proving some evidence to support
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» RE: I just LOVE it when lowbrows like Prinsowhales make claims with zero evidence.
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» RE: Thank you for revealing that you are a sexist pig, Prinzo, as well as economically foolish.
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» RE: Thank you for revealing that you are a sexist pig, Prinzo, as well as economically foolish.
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» RE: Wow, not only are you a sexist, but a homophobe as well, PrinzoCrap!
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» RE: Wow, not only are you a sexist, but a homophobe as well, PrinzoCrap!
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» RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention your inclusion of Ms as the "tripe on display at checkout..."
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» RE: Oh yes, I forgot to mention your inclusion of Ms as the "tripe on display at checkout..."
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» Alex Jones Sheep are out in force, again.
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» RE: Alex Jones Sheep are out in force, again.
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» I stand corrected
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» RE: I stand corrected
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Posted by: Plexius2 on Oct 18, 2009 4:43 PM
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If we spend half of every billion dollars to kill the repressives, we ought to be able to eliminate them pretty quickly. In fact the fastest way to do that would be to post a reward for their deaths. Half a billion dollars divided up into one million dollar bounties on the heads of Al Quaeda and Taliban leaders (that is one million American dollars on the heads of 500 of the upper echelon leaders) is consistent with Middle Eastern political structures wherein fatwas and kidnappings for ransom are a standard aspect of warfare dating back at least to Cervantes who was captured, ransomed and released after the payment was made. And that was hundreds years ago. If the Middle Easterners understand anything, it is money. Buy the heads of Al Quaeda and Taliban leaders at one million bucks apiece, and the insurgency will fall apart very quickly. Plus you save a lot of civilian and military lives at the same time. Doesn't get much better than that.
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» Very good. But I would change the percentages
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» RE: Nothing like a 'new' old failed plan for Afghanistan...
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» What you right wing nutcases cannot comprehend is that we lefties don't worship our leaders
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» RE: Your theme seems to be..."Don't know nuthin' bout politics...
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» All you did was quote what we all know as recent history
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» RE: Obama won a Nobel, Milton Friedman won a Nobel, Henry Kissinger won a Nobel...
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» You are hand waving
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» RE: You are purposefully obtuse
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» I am not interested in food fights
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» RE: I am not interested in food fights
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» "System Economists"? What is that? Where is the learned response?
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» RE: "System Economists"
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» Alright, look at my reply in the prior posting, above. n/m
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» RE: Apparently, PrinzoFails, you FAILED once again to read the post.
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» RE: Apparently, PrinzoFails, you FAILED once again to read the post.
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» RE: Nice try, PrinzoCrap, but your link failed. Did you intentionally mislead...
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» RE: Nice try, PrinzoCrap, but your link failed. Did you intentionally mislead...
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Posted by: dadanbetty on Oct 19, 2009 3:20 AM
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Posted by: smf1403 on Oct 19, 2009 5:56 AM
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$30,400. that Ms. Evans spent (Code Pink's contributors spent) to get an audience with Obama does not compare to the billions of dollars war profiteers will make off Afghanistan.
I think Jodie and friends need to come back down to Earth a little and stop wasting their contributors money. This stunt is clearly not remotely a blip on Obama's radar.
The pipeline is the prize in Afghanistan and Obama and gang will not be taking their eye off the prize for little Jodie Evans or her $30,400.
This is disgusting and pathetic.
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» RE: Jodie Evans $30,400. and inflated ego will not change Imperialism
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 19, 2009 9:20 AM
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Obama's War in Afghanistan has protected the Opium producers and their rump Karzai Regime in Kabul. It is, of course, supported by the Zionist Neo-Con/Neo-Liberals of the Democratic Leadership Conference and their fellow travelers--the Republicans...the same folks who support the colonization of the West Bank and the continuation of the Gaza Gulag...the same folks who support the continued occupation of Iraq...the same folks who support and fund the undeclared war against Iran...the same folks who supported the trillions in welfare to Goldman Sachs, AIG and the rest of the Corporatist Establishment.
Code Stink has its man in office to run the war and is loathe to criticize him...just as NOW put politics first and supported Clinton...dreaming of power and great big cee-gars...
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» RE: O'bomb'em's Wars for Oil, Opium and Israel
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 19, 2009 10:04 AM
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It took him seven minutes of furious "thinking" to realize he wasn't The Man, after all, but just a front for Poppie and The Gang. That was HIS defining moment.
Who wouldn't LOVE to hear the conversation between Obama and Gen. Mcjerk ( you know, the assassin in charge of Afghanistan) in Air Force One?
Was this the time said general told Obama who's REALLY running the show?
Was this Obama's defining moment?
Think about what the warlords have to lose if we suddenly decided to leave those two unfortunate nations.
Their pathological greed and completely amoral nature are well known to anyone who takes the time to study the matter.
Given their history of sacrificing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, and laying to waste Iraq and Afghanistan for fun and profit, do you think they intend to let Obama, or anyone else for that matter, get in their way?
Is there any way they can be stopped?
Theoretically, yes, but is civilian control of our military still there?
We'll find out soon enough, I guess.
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Posted by: Nitestallion on Oct 19, 2009 11:42 AM
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What is it about no more war these politicos don't get: WAR IS A RACKET ~ Maj. General Smedley D. Butler, USMC RET. Double Medal of Honor holder.
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Posted by: Rusty Shackleford on Oct 19, 2009 12:43 PM
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We all know that. We've been over it a million times.
The war is a dead end. We're never going to "accomplish" anything.
We need to withdraw.
The thing I'm concerned about was that bit about it costing $34,000 for two tickets just to get close to the president.
I'm sorry... but how is that beneficial to a nation? AT ALL?!?!
This is why I keep writing posts advocating the dissolution of the union. We're simply too big.
Smaller, regional governments in this country could more easily address the problems we face.
Over 300 million people clamoring to be heard by a mere 538 representatives? Not good.
Not to mention all the advantages that would accompany secession...
The red states get to outlaw abortion and homosexuality.
The blue states get to join the Kyoto protocol and advance stem cell research, and do everything we want to do.
No more crushing deadlock between liberals and conservatives.
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Posted by: Garvagh on Oct 19, 2009 4:32 PM
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Oct 19, 2009 5:58 PM
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1. Send advisors not to lead milikill missions but to help develop both industrial hemp and skunkweed industries, the latter including the manufacture of THC formula to be loaded in e-cigarette cartridges for worldwide export replacing the narcotics.
2. From high-unemployment countries such as Afghanistan, import guestworkers to the US, especially drought zones like California, to participate in biofuels-abatement, i.e. clipping trillions of dead branches to prevent billion-dollar fires, conversion of urban scrap lumber into thrift-store shelving etc. Use both government and contracting companies to provide the workers with encouragements such as free campsite housing, catered nutritious meals, free English and Spanish language lessons, access to innanet, and some wages they can send home to mother. Spending tax payer money this way makes more sense to me than spending it trying to kill the same youngsters once unemployment has made them recruitable into the militant organizations.
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 20, 2009 12:20 PM
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