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Judge Finds Abusive Gitmo Interrogations Yield False Confessions, Bad Info
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A few weeks ago, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia released a declassified version of a judge’s ruling in the case of Al Rabiah, a Kuwaiti citizen who has been held at Guantanamo for seven years. The judge, Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, found that the government could not credibly support its allegation that Al Rabiah was part of the Taliban or al-Qaida, and that the evidence against him wasn’t sufficient to justify his continued detention. She ordered the government to release Al Rabiah "forthwith."
But the judge’s opinion is more than a legal document; it’s also a window into the interrogation process at Guantanamo and the risk that "enhanced interrogation techniques" will produce false information. Excerpts from the opinion are below; you can also read the whole document.
Al Rabiah’s background.
Kollar-Kotelly describes Al Rabiah as a 50-year-old father of four, who graduated from the Air Service Training school at Perth College, Scotland, with a degree in aviation maintenance in 1981. He then went to Kuwait Airways, where he worked until his detention in 2001. At the time Al Rabiah was captured, he was an overweight man in his 40s, with "various medical ailments such as high blood pressure and chronic pain in his neck and lower back]" and no military training, save for two weeks of compulsory training in the Kuwait Army until he was discharged for a knee injury.
Al Rabiah often used his vacations to perform humanitarian work in impoverished or war-torn countries, the judge writes, and it was to perform the same kind of work that he traveled to Afghanistan in October 2001—an explanation that Kollar-Kotelly writes is supported by the evidence. After he tried to leave the country via Iran, whose border guards denied him entry, Al Rabiah tried instead to cross the Pakistani border, but he was captured by villagers and turned over to the Americans, who later transferred him to Guantanamo.
The government’s evidence against Al Rabiah was "surprisingly bare."
The government’s case against Al Rabiah initially rested on two main pillars: allegations made against him by fellow detainees and his own confessions. But in the judge’s opinion, neither held any weight.
The judge’s ruling cites four detainees who made allegations against Al Rabiah. The names of his accusers are redacted, as are the specifics of their allegations, but Kollar-Kotelly explains her reasons for rejecting them. The first accuser made statements that were incorrect; the second made statements that changed over time, and which the judge called "demonstrably false"; the third seems to have made statements about someone who was not Al Rabiah; and the fourth made his allegations only after one week of sleep deprivation, exceeding the military’s own guideline prohibiting sleep deprivation for more than four days, "and he did not repeat this allegation either before or after."
Kollar-Kotelly notes that the government itself "withdrew most of its reliance" on the witnesses against Al Rabiah during the course of the trial. She writes that their allegations are unreliable, writing, "the Court finds that none of the alleged eyewitnesses have provided credible allegations against Al Rabiah." However, she calls it "very significant that Al Rabiah’s interrogators apparently believed these allegations at the time they were made, and therefore sought to have Al Rabiah confess to them." That brings her to those confessions.
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Oct 14, 2009 1:38 AM
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Posted by: remo on Oct 14, 2009 2:24 AM
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OOPS. mustn't give those CONSPIRACY THEORISTS any more parley vous .
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Posted by: whole2th on Oct 14, 2009 4:04 AM
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The CORE OF CORRUPTION that really orchestrated 9/11, and which continues the deceptions and cover-up, used torture to fit the pieces of the myth together.
Watch CORE OF CORRUPTION free on Google Videos
May the myth-making beguiler Philip Zelikow be returned to the eternal abyss. May Americans get the courage to face pure evil--for it is in confronting the Pandora's box of big lies about 9/11 that we have hope for restoring the founding principles of our nation and for peace on earth....free of the deceptions of such ilk as GuitarBill, Encino and others who hate not only our freedoms, but also hate WHAT IS as blasphemers of WHAT IS.
Mossad, Pakistani ISI, CIA, Saudis and treasonous elements of our own government were primary orchestrators of 9/11. Dual US-Israeli citizens played key roles in the military precision operation called 9/11. Mass media moguls commanded 'journalist' underlings to spin the tale .even as it was unfolding the big lies were woven
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 14, 2009 5:34 AM
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War Criminals in NAZI Germany, considered that they would always be immune from Prosecution, because they had the Protection of The German NAZI State.
War Criminals in NAZI America also consider that they would always be immune from Prosecution, because they had the Protection of The American NAZI State.
War Criminals in NAZI Israel are now becoming increasingly worried that they will be arrested and charged with War Crimes Against Humanity, and have cancelled plans to travel for Fear of Arrest.
War Criminals who escaped Justice from NAZI Germany were pursued long into old age and were eventually prosecuted.
There is Significant Evidence that War Criminals from both the USA and the UK, are now becoming increasingly worried, that they will eventually be arrested and prosecuted.
The evidence against them is phenomenal and extremely well documented. Large numbers of people in Justice systems across the World are compiling evidence for Prosecution.
This Evil Will Stop, and The Criminals Will Be Pursued and Prosecuted.
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Awesome. I love it when a smarty judge kicks right-wing assholes right in the ass.
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Posted by: bonapartist on Oct 14, 2009 11:48 AM
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Bloody brilliant, now I know why Ms. Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is a US district judge. Such an amazing mind.
One of these days somebody in Pentagon might figure out that killing civilians doesn't help people like US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Oct 14, 2009 1:15 PM
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Based on Scretary Clinton's recent testimony to Congress, there is ample evidence to try the U.S officials for treason and crimes against humanity:
"Let’s remember here… the people we are fighting today we funded them twenty years ago… and we did it because we were locked in a struggle with the Soviet Union. They invaded Afghanistan… and we did not want to see them control Central Asia and we went to work… and it was President Reagan in partnership with Congress led by Democrats who said you know what it sounds like a pretty good idea… let’s deal with the ISI and the Pakistan military and let’s go recruit these mujahideen. And great, let them come from Saudi Arabia and other countries, importing their Wahhabi brand of Islam so that we can go beat the Soviet Union. And guess what … they (Soviets) retreated … they lost billions of dollars and it led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. So there is a very strong argument which is… it wasn’t a bad investment in terms of Soviet Union but let’s be careful with what we sow… because we will harvest."
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If you get to be older than that it is best forgotten...
So I don't mind when people forget my Birthday...
But My Muslim Friend Does...
It is Really Important to him, that we remember his Birthday.
I always forget, but My Wife Remembers.
He is Looking After a Very Old Friend of Mine, who Just Happens to Be a Roman Catholic Priest.
Some People Might think That I DESPISE Catholic Priests.
I Never Remember his Birthday, but sometimes I remember him at Christmas and send him a nice little present - like some money he will probably give away - despite me insisting he goes down the pub with it and chat up a nice Lancashire Lass
He must be well into his 80's by now - maybe 90's.
We shall have to go and see him again in Lancashire.
He's still as Bright as a Button and writes me the most wonderful letters once or twice a year.
He's a Holy Man Full of Love and Peace For Everyone
Except The Israeli's Who He DESPISES
Tony
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Oct 15, 2009 4:46 PM
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With nuts like that in charge of things, it is sheer relief to see the Judiciary now holding them to their word. The Judiciary is logic-based, and they won't fall for the same nonsense that's taken the rest of the establishment. The interrogaters don't even believe the man's confessions themselves, so what do they do? Why they push him all the harder, for a "confession" that they will be able to "believe." It really MAKES NO SENSE! And they take him into court, (where they don't want to be AT ALL) saying that he's guilty of all the things they themselves don't believe he's guilty of? Whaaaat???
This process is taking far too long, and ruining far too many lives; and all for the insane cult ramblings of a President who should never have even been elected in the first place. No wonder the world now laughs at America's posturings.
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Posted by: JohnHKennedy Denver CO on Oct 17, 2009 2:38 PM
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Are they waiting for the statute of limitations to run out so they can avoid having to do their job? Aren't they for Enforcing our Federal Laws?
Make them do it soon!
Put yourself out for the Truth.
Get out in the streets in front of your Congressional Representative's office and raise hell.
Start your own "prosecution" protest group.
KEEP ASKING ALL POLITICIANS AT ALL PUBLIC EVENTS
"WHY DO YOU SUPPORT TORTURE?"
If they aren't actively calling for enforcement of our Federal Torture Laws, They DO Support Torture and a dual standard of Justice.
SIGN THE PETITIONS
Demanding
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Oct 14, 2009 1:38 AM
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FREE AMERICA
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» Clearly, we wanted the false confessions
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Posted by: remo on Oct 14, 2009 2:24 AM
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OOPS. mustn't give those CONSPIRACY THEORISTS any more parley vous .
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Posted by: whole2th on Oct 14, 2009 4:04 AM
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The CORE OF CORRUPTION that really orchestrated 9/11, and which continues the deceptions and cover-up, used torture to fit the pieces of the myth together.
Watch CORE OF CORRUPTION free on Google Videos
May the myth-making beguiler Philip Zelikow be returned to the eternal abyss. May Americans get the courage to face pure evil--for it is in confronting the Pandora's box of big lies about 9/11 that we have hope for restoring the founding principles of our nation and for peace on earth....free of the deceptions of such ilk as GuitarBill, Encino and others who hate not only our freedoms, but also hate WHAT IS as blasphemers of WHAT IS.
Mossad, Pakistani ISI, CIA, Saudis and treasonous elements of our own government were primary orchestrators of 9/11. Dual US-Israeli citizens played key roles in the military precision operation called 9/11. Mass media moguls commanded 'journalist' underlings to spin the tale .even as it was unfolding the big lies were woven
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» The 911 "truth" Movement, aka., Fair Play For al Qaeda Committee (Meets Here 1-4 PM).
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Posted by: Crazy H
» Talking out of your backside again, Preparation H?
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» RE: Talking out of your backside again, Preparation H?
Posted by: Crazy H
» Still working on the difference between "they" and "I", Preparation H?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Straw man out of your backside again, Bille Boi?
Posted by: Crazy H
» [expletive deleted] you, Preparation H. The entire 911 "truth" movement is based upon straw men
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» [CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill is free of ... honesty
Posted by: MaxBridges
» Neo-fascist liar, Max, couldn't tell the truth to save his life.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Bad math for a (alledged) Math Major...
Posted by: Crazy H
» You are STUPID, Preparation H. The 81 minutes applies to Payne Stewart's LearJet, not the airliners.
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» RE: You are STUPID, Preparation H. The 81 minutes applies to Payne Stewart's LearJet, not the airliners.
Posted by: Crazy H
» It's not my fault that you have the reading comprehension of a third grader, Preparation H.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Where did David Ray Grifter get his 10 minute number? Can you tell me, Preparation H?
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» It's not my fault that you don't do your homework, Preparation H. Lying about David R Grifter, now?
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» Sorry, I neglected to mention that
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» [CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill has his transponder off
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» Would they? Should they? Could they? No matter, you're still lying.
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» [Preparation H for A$$holes][CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill's hemorrhoidal head swelling
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» But you are a compulsive liar, Max, as the following data proves:
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» RE: [Preparation H for A$$holes]
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» Your premise is false, Preparation H.
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» RE: The 911 "truth" Movement, aka., Fair Play For al Qaeda Committee (Meets Here 1-4 PM).
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» [CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill is the semaphore for 9/11 Truth
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» Max the compulsive liar, scumbag for 911 "truth".
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» [CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill off-topic and off-road lies
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» More lies, Max the compulsive liar?
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» RE: More hypocrisy, Bill the compulsive hypocrite?
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» Tell us about it, Preparation H.
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» RE: Boo hoo, the big bad bully hit me BACK.
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» Lying again, Preparation H?
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» [CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill is free of ... honesty
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» Double posting to the same thread, Max?
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» Do we really need to know the details of your sex life, Tony?
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» Well It's More Interesting Than The Nonsense You Write
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» Really, then why don't you offer something more than your opinion and references to your sex life?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» 9/11 Bores Me Shitless
Posted by: tony_opmoc
» Steven Jones is not a structural engineer; thus, he's not qualified to analyze a building collapse.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» GuitarBill - I Actually Really Like Alternet - I Have a Suggestion For You and Your Rich Mates
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» RE: Steven Jones is not a structural engineer; thus, he's not qualified to analyze a building collapse.
Posted by: Crazy H
» Lying again, Preparation H?
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» RE: Did it ever occur to you that I don't give a flying-[expletive deleted] what you think or do?
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» RE: Did it ever occur to you that I don't give a flying-[expletive deleted] what you think or do?
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» Yo WholeTOOTH! How about if I go to 911blogger and hijack the articles with off-topic cr*p?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» [CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill hijacked this thread
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» Prevaricating again, Max?
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» Yo WholeTOOTH! Why not lecture us about ad hominem attacks--you flaming hypocrite.
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» RE: GuitarBill - What a Shill!
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» What are you talking about? Are you still working on the dfference between "they" and "I"?
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» RE: Funniest. Post. Ever.
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» He doesn't have an argument, Preparation H. He's an idiot.
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» [CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill is an x-timing bastard! *tears in eyes*
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» That's right, Max, change the subject and don't address WholeTOOTH's ad hominem attack.
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» NY-CAN'T Get Any Marchers! DATE: 27 September 2009, and only 80 people showed up. LOL!
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» [CompulsiveLiar] GuitarBill needs to smoke some reefer, man!
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» Tony lies, "Keep it clean and honest." What are you, a comedian?
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» Fuck Me Haven't You Gone To Bed Yet? It Must Be About 5:15 AM in Israel Now
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» No, it's 7:00 PM is CA.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 14, 2009 5:34 AM
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War Criminals in NAZI Germany, considered that they would always be immune from Prosecution, because they had the Protection of The German NAZI State.
War Criminals in NAZI America also consider that they would always be immune from Prosecution, because they had the Protection of The American NAZI State.
War Criminals in NAZI Israel are now becoming increasingly worried that they will be arrested and charged with War Crimes Against Humanity, and have cancelled plans to travel for Fear of Arrest.
War Criminals who escaped Justice from NAZI Germany were pursued long into old age and were eventually prosecuted.
There is Significant Evidence that War Criminals from both the USA and the UK, are now becoming increasingly worried, that they will eventually be arrested and prosecuted.
The evidence against them is phenomenal and extremely well documented. Large numbers of people in Justice systems across the World are compiling evidence for Prosecution.
This Evil Will Stop, and The Criminals Will Be Pursued and Prosecuted.
Tony
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 14, 2009 10:48 AM
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Awesome. I love it when a smarty judge kicks right-wing assholes right in the ass.
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Posted by: bonapartist on Oct 14, 2009 11:48 AM
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Bloody brilliant, now I know why Ms. Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is a US district judge. Such an amazing mind.
One of these days somebody in Pentagon might figure out that killing civilians doesn't help people like US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Oct 14, 2009 1:15 PM
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Based on Scretary Clinton's recent testimony to Congress, there is ample evidence to try the U.S officials for treason and crimes against humanity:
"Let’s remember here… the people we are fighting today we funded them twenty years ago… and we did it because we were locked in a struggle with the Soviet Union. They invaded Afghanistan… and we did not want to see them control Central Asia and we went to work… and it was President Reagan in partnership with Congress led by Democrats who said you know what it sounds like a pretty good idea… let’s deal with the ISI and the Pakistan military and let’s go recruit these mujahideen. And great, let them come from Saudi Arabia and other countries, importing their Wahhabi brand of Islam so that we can go beat the Soviet Union. And guess what … they (Soviets) retreated … they lost billions of dollars and it led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. So there is a very strong argument which is… it wasn’t a bad investment in terms of Soviet Union but let’s be careful with what we sow… because we will harvest."
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 14, 2009 6:08 PM
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If you get to be older than that it is best forgotten...
So I don't mind when people forget my Birthday...
But My Muslim Friend Does...
It is Really Important to him, that we remember his Birthday.
I always forget, but My Wife Remembers.
He is Looking After a Very Old Friend of Mine, who Just Happens to Be a Roman Catholic Priest.
Some People Might think That I DESPISE Catholic Priests.
I Never Remember his Birthday, but sometimes I remember him at Christmas and send him a nice little present - like some money he will probably give away - despite me insisting he goes down the pub with it and chat up a nice Lancashire Lass
He must be well into his 80's by now - maybe 90's.
We shall have to go and see him again in Lancashire.
He's still as Bright as a Button and writes me the most wonderful letters once or twice a year.
He's a Holy Man Full of Love and Peace For Everyone
Except The Israeli's Who He DESPISES
Tony
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Oct 15, 2009 6:13 AM
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Oct 15, 2009 4:46 PM
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With nuts like that in charge of things, it is sheer relief to see the Judiciary now holding them to their word. The Judiciary is logic-based, and they won't fall for the same nonsense that's taken the rest of the establishment. The interrogaters don't even believe the man's confessions themselves, so what do they do? Why they push him all the harder, for a "confession" that they will be able to "believe." It really MAKES NO SENSE! And they take him into court, (where they don't want to be AT ALL) saying that he's guilty of all the things they themselves don't believe he's guilty of? Whaaaat???
This process is taking far too long, and ruining far too many lives; and all for the insane cult ramblings of a President who should never have even been elected in the first place. No wonder the world now laughs at America's posturings.
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Posted by: AZLBRAX. on Oct 16, 2009 7:04 PM
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Posted by: JohnHKennedy Denver CO on Oct 17, 2009 2:38 PM
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Are they waiting for the statute of limitations to run out so they can avoid having to do their job? Aren't they for Enforcing our Federal Laws?
Make them do it soon!
Put yourself out for the Truth.
Get out in the streets in front of your Congressional Representative's office and raise hell.
Start your own "prosecution" protest group.
KEEP ASKING ALL POLITICIANS AT ALL PUBLIC EVENTS
"WHY DO YOU SUPPORT TORTURE?"
If they aren't actively calling for enforcement of our Federal Torture Laws, They DO Support Torture and a dual standard of Justice.
SIGN THE PETITIONS
Demanding
prosecution for all those leaders
in Bush's Administration that Conspired to Torture at ANGRYVOTERS.ORG
ANGRYVOTERS.ORG
Only Prosecution Stops Torture, Abuse of Power, our Constitution, & Rule Of Law
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