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Whole Foods Looks and Acts More Like Wal-Mart Than a 'Sustainable' Natural Foods Store
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Lost in the ear-splitting uproar over Whole Foods CEO John Mackey's controversial venture into the health care debate, is a bigger, though less subtle story.
It's a story about how a small, well-intentioned sustainable food company lost its way. It's a story of how that company went from a single natural foods store in Austin, Texas to industry juggernaut, with every intention of dominating the natural foods retail category, in the nearly-identical way its conventional competitors came to dominate their sectors, i.e., achieving massive scale through acquisitions, new stores and eliminating smaller competitors.
Along the way, that company, Whole Foods, traded in any sense of purpose it had regarding regional food systems to pursue increasingly larger financial objectives, e.g., $12.0 billion in sales by 2010, up from $8.0 billion in FY08 sales and maintaining its 30% CAGR in sales since '91 IPO. Today, Whole Foods, which publicly trades on the NASDAQ exchange (symbol: WFMI), owns the natural foods retail category, providing solid annual financial returns to its shareholders. Significant accomplishments considering Whole Foods' humble beginnings.
But alongside this growth, a company with great potential to fundamentally change sustainable food lost its luster. Although shareholders, who have earned handsome returns over the years - 15% CAGR in stock price since IPO - cannot complain, sustainable food advocates can. Here's why.
After acquiring 19 regional chains since 1991, beginning with New Orleans-based Whole Food Company and ending with its recent $565 million acquisition of Wild Oats (#2 national chain with 110 stores, compared to Whole Foods' 191 stores), the resulting natural foods landscape now resembles the highly concentrated, conventional food retail space more than it does the regional food systems that sustainable food advocates identify as key to improving the food we eat.
The problem with Whole Foods isn't necessarily its management or financial performance; it's that the company has morphed into what amounts to a "sustainable" version of Wal-Mart and Kroger and every other multi-billion dollar supermarket chain. As evidence, the original Whole Foods Market opened in 1980 at 10,500 square feet, quite large compared to other natural foods stores at that time. By 2008, its 276 stores averaged 36,000 square feet, and it plans to open 70 new stores through fiscal year 2013 at an average size of 47,300 square feet, slightly above the conventional food supermarket median average of 46,755 square feet. Taken together, these stores will occupy over 13 million square feet of retail space, stocked with tens of thousands of packaged, processed and perishable items, purchased almost entirely through large national distributors, much like any other large supermarket.
There's every indication that these massive Whole Foods "natural foods" stores will continue popping up in more regions, including smaller markets, e.g., Burlington, Vermont, a city of less than 40,000 citizens in a county barely breaking 150,000 people. Burlington is home to one of the more vibrant sustainable food communities in the country. There are no Whole Foods Markets or Trader Joes in this town. Instead, residents frequent food cooperatives, farmers markets and community supported agriculture (CSA) farms, purchasing above-average quantities of food from local farms and processors.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Aug 28, 2009 2:48 AM
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They soon drove out or consolidated most of the other health food stores in the Austin area, but the vibes remained as awful as ever.
'Who are these creepy people?" I wondered. It bothered me greatly that people in the progressive, health-oriented community would have such disagreeable auras.
The Whole Foods here in Austin is currently so big it has its own gravitational field. The prices are well-nigh incalulable. People enter but never come out.
And the vibes are as bad as ever. I do my shopping at Wheatsville Co-Op, which you must visit if you ever come to Austin.
Recent events suggest the Whole Foods people may be the same flamers who fought dirty for Obama and called their fellow Democrats racists
You know--the foul-mouthed Philistines who hang around at Huffington Post and Democratic Underground, the folks who destroyed the Democratic Party. They're behind Obama and Whole Foods--i.e., everything about the left that sucks. It's an intruiging theory.
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Posted by: reinaldok on Aug 28, 2009 5:41 AM
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However, I did buy there yesterday, three months supply of my needed medication for SIX dollars. Compassion - no way - just smarter business. Sure is different from the Whole Foods concept. BTW, we all have to be so careful with these message boards. Mackey or one of his lackeys with phony names might be lurking in the background and sending messages with subtle intentions. Of course that's what he did to the Oats guys. What a sleazy way to do business.
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Posted by: the director on Aug 28, 2009 6:46 AM
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Investers need to bleed when an employee gets shot by a disgruntled Wal-Mart employee. The only quality is by accident.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 28, 2009 6:46 AM
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step up & say something dumbass ReichWing to a pack of ethical purchasers & organic food consumers & watch them eat you alive...
hehehe: that asshole has had it coming for a long time.
WHAT I FIND INTERESTING IS THAT HE WAS APPARENTLY OF THAT FOOD PRODUCTION SUBSET who FEEDS THEIR CHILDREN ORGANIC AT HOME... but doesn't give a DAMN about what happens to anybody else as long as they get what they want for themselves.
uh-huh...
very illuminating & highly entertaining to watch the Left take this cretin ReichWinger out behind the chicken coop for a long chat...
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Aug 28, 2009 7:04 AM
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Whole Foods CEO John Mackey is a product of the early Seventies. Many of the most vile, libertarian villains on the American economic landscape are suburban-raised, coordinator class brats who took Timothy Leary's advice to "turn in, turn on and drop out," read Ayn Rand's magnum opus "Atlas Shrugged" while tripping their brains out.
Remember that old hippie catch phrase, "Do you own thing?" Well, hey, if doing your own thing leads to making one rich beyond the dreams of avarice, go for it. And..hey, hey,hey it's all groovy 'cause we're all doin' this for Mother Earth.
But the real dilemma of our time is, what are you going to do?
Look you can boycott Whole Foods--as I said since there is not a Whole Foods store anywhere in my area so it's a "so-what?" non-issue here--but there will be a cadre of reactionaries who will then go out of their way to patronize the place. I suppose some one could pop a cap in Mackey's ass but I don't know what that might accomplish?
So what to do?
My best suggestion is to amend the US Constitution to strip corporations of personhood and to provide for the public financing of all elections, from the presidency down to local offices. Strengthen union organizing, bargaining and striking rights. Break up, down size and regulate the big box chain retail outlets.
If anyone has any better suggestions, please let's discuss them.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Aug 28, 2009 7:05 AM
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Going local and switching to mom-and-pop small stores usually results in getting a bigger bang for the buck since quality production comes first over quantity. On the issues of Walmart and Whole Foods and their histories of rigging the competition, it's up to Washington to put the brakes on unfettered capitalism and return to regulated capitalism though I don't see this Congress or White House interested in trying.
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Posted by: clvngodess on Aug 28, 2009 7:34 AM
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Instead, I shop at a local mom and pop grocer that is certified to sell organic produce from a local organic farm with fixed affordable pricing. My local grocer has a mission to bring clean, healthy organic food to the community --as a right, not a privilege. THIS is why I boycott WF. When I spend $25 dollars on produce at my grocer, I come home with many bags of seasonal organic fruits and vegetables. When I spend the same amount at WF, I get nothing. Same thing for Traitor Joes.
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Posted by: SteveA on Aug 28, 2009 7:40 AM
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You can:
Not go there;
Go into competition with them;
Buy from the competition; OR -
Stand on the outside and throw stones like an idiot.
And you chose??
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Posted by: Gravitas on Aug 28, 2009 7:42 AM
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This fat person will be taking most of her business elsewhere. Perhaps he really believes the stereotypes that fat people don't eat healthy so offending them is no risk. Maybe he should look around in his Midwestern stores once in awhile. This is too bad for me because my new place is in walking distance of a WFs. But I never forgive a fat bigot no matter what! So its back to hauling my groceries by bus from Trader Joes who I like much better anyway.
p.s. If Mackey's people are out there reading, one more thing I would like to say. Mackey is hardly attractive himself. If I were him, I would stop commenting on what Americans look like. Someone is liable to turn around and tell him what his appearance reminds them of.
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Posted by: willymack on Aug 28, 2009 9:39 AM
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I've worked at sales jobs, both full and part-time. Almost all those companies had instructional material and training courses which emphasised a "burning desire" for success as a prerequisite for the job. "Sweeping the client off his feet" stated one way or another was another common phrase.
This is the sorry state we find ourselves in today, with markets replacing people. What the "market will bear" is a euphamism for price gouging.
"Acceptable losses" (of people, because of toxic poisoning of the air, water, etc.) is a term bandied about by major polluters.
Acceptance of the fact that there are obscenely wealthy parasites just a few blocks away from the poor is another example of Operation Brainwash, and its allied activity Operation Whitewash.
These are all facets of predatory capitalism.
Howdaya like it, folks?
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Posted by: alturn on Aug 28, 2009 9:42 AM
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I was living in Palo Alto California when it had no Whole Foods but a full-sized grocery store co-op. Amazingly, the co-op did not carry organic foods to any extent nor did it cater at all to vegetarians. It took Whole Foods to open its first store on the west coast there to do what the co-op should have been doing.
So I can understand the benefit Whole Foods brings yet lament that the organic foods movement could not have expanded on the model which first supported it - community based co-ops. In San Diego, that is where I shop and it has far lower prices but not the selection. In a far less commercialized world we would have local decisions made not only for our food but other commodities we purchase, such as a local hardware store (not the current model of hardware co-ops where the central buying unit shoves buying decisions down the throat of local owners). Yet the beauty that comes from diversity still awaits its day - and until then even movements founded upon high ideals will see the Mackeys of the world find ways to profit from them while at the same time changing to bittersweet the nectar contained in the original inspiration.
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Posted by: PaulK on Aug 28, 2009 12:06 PM
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We need grocery stores that don't rob their employees. Whole Foods is quite cheap. At least they don't torture the employees half as much as Wanker-Mart.
We need grocery stores that legally can't be bought up by a monopoly and closed down to extract higher prices from the community. In Europe this corporate structure is called a co-op. In the States a co-op is sometimes called "never heard of it!"
Co-ops almost never close down in recessions. The more co-ops we have, the safer our economy becomes. Local co-ops are steady local jobs.
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Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Aug 28, 2009 12:20 PM
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Their shareholders/owners are a bunch of Texan geriatrics who fly around from here to there on the company tab - and as far as bad vibe, they regularly stock their stores with private detectives in order to keep the underpaid staff from ripping off too many goods.
They really, really should be avoided, in other words. Go to a farmer's market or a locally owned store, not to those guys.
The management structure is just plain weird - really shady, really day-glo. Like scientologists on crack, is the best description. Serious ass kissing and a tightly loyal corporate heirarchy is the norm.
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Posted by: GretnaBlast on Aug 28, 2009 6:17 PM
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Taking "liberal" and/or "progessive" and just turning it into outright "conservative." Although taking up millions of square footage by yourself doesn't quite conserve anything, neither does wasting a trillion dollars on toothless "reform."
single payer
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Posted by: profco on Aug 28, 2009 7:47 PM
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Employee morale is low and it is almost impossible to find a sales clerk or stock person who knows anything about the merchandise they are selling, let alone cares enough to be friendly or helpful. There's no Customer Service desk, and overcharging because the shelf price is lower than the computer price that rings up at check-out is a constant problem. I'm so disgusted that I've cut down on the amount of organic produce and products I buy and try instead to shop local.
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Posted by: Constance on Aug 29, 2009 9:43 AM
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One farmer I know found his picture on a banner in a distance Whole Foods. He was shocked of course. He also had sold there only once. Don't be romanced by the deceptive images all over their stores.
The good news was that another small independent local grocery has benefited greatly from the ill-will generated by Whole Foods. Constance
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Load the car and write the note.
Grab your bag and grab your coat.
Tell the ones that need to know.
We are headed north.
One foot in and one foot back.
But it don’t pay to live like that.
So I cut the ties and I jumped the track.
For never to return.
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Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
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When at first I learned to speak.
I used all my words to fight.
With him and her and you and me.
Ahh, but it's just a waste of time.
Yeah it’s such a waste of time.
That woman she’s got eyes that shine.
Like a pair of stolen polished dimes.
She asked to dance I said it’s fine.
I’ll see you in the morning time.
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Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Three words that became hard to say.
I and Love and You.
What you were than I am today.
Look at the things I do.
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Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
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Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Dumbed down and numbed by time and age.
You’re dreams that catch the world the cage.
The highway sets the travelers stage.
All exits look the same.
Three words that became hard to say.
I and Love and You.
I and Love and You.
I and Love and You.
Three words that became hard to say...
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Aug 28, 2009 2:48 AM
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They soon drove out or consolidated most of the other health food stores in the Austin area, but the vibes remained as awful as ever.
'Who are these creepy people?" I wondered. It bothered me greatly that people in the progressive, health-oriented community would have such disagreeable auras.
The Whole Foods here in Austin is currently so big it has its own gravitational field. The prices are well-nigh incalulable. People enter but never come out.
And the vibes are as bad as ever. I do my shopping at Wheatsville Co-Op, which you must visit if you ever come to Austin.
Recent events suggest the Whole Foods people may be the same flamers who fought dirty for Obama and called their fellow Democrats racists
You know--the foul-mouthed Philistines who hang around at Huffington Post and Democratic Underground, the folks who destroyed the Democratic Party. They're behind Obama and Whole Foods--i.e., everything about the left that sucks. It's an intruiging theory.
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Posted by: reinaldok on Aug 28, 2009 5:41 AM
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However, I did buy there yesterday, three months supply of my needed medication for SIX dollars. Compassion - no way - just smarter business. Sure is different from the Whole Foods concept. BTW, we all have to be so careful with these message boards. Mackey or one of his lackeys with phony names might be lurking in the background and sending messages with subtle intentions. Of course that's what he did to the Oats guys. What a sleazy way to do business.
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Posted by: the director on Aug 28, 2009 6:46 AM
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Investers need to bleed when an employee gets shot by a disgruntled Wal-Mart employee. The only quality is by accident.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 28, 2009 6:46 AM
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step up & say something dumbass ReichWing to a pack of ethical purchasers & organic food consumers & watch them eat you alive...
hehehe: that asshole has had it coming for a long time.
WHAT I FIND INTERESTING IS THAT HE WAS APPARENTLY OF THAT FOOD PRODUCTION SUBSET who FEEDS THEIR CHILDREN ORGANIC AT HOME... but doesn't give a DAMN about what happens to anybody else as long as they get what they want for themselves.
uh-huh...
very illuminating & highly entertaining to watch the Left take this cretin ReichWinger out behind the chicken coop for a long chat...
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Aug 28, 2009 7:04 AM
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Whole Foods CEO John Mackey is a product of the early Seventies. Many of the most vile, libertarian villains on the American economic landscape are suburban-raised, coordinator class brats who took Timothy Leary's advice to "turn in, turn on and drop out," read Ayn Rand's magnum opus "Atlas Shrugged" while tripping their brains out.
Remember that old hippie catch phrase, "Do you own thing?" Well, hey, if doing your own thing leads to making one rich beyond the dreams of avarice, go for it. And..hey, hey,hey it's all groovy 'cause we're all doin' this for Mother Earth.
But the real dilemma of our time is, what are you going to do?
Look you can boycott Whole Foods--as I said since there is not a Whole Foods store anywhere in my area so it's a "so-what?" non-issue here--but there will be a cadre of reactionaries who will then go out of their way to patronize the place. I suppose some one could pop a cap in Mackey's ass but I don't know what that might accomplish?
So what to do?
My best suggestion is to amend the US Constitution to strip corporations of personhood and to provide for the public financing of all elections, from the presidency down to local offices. Strengthen union organizing, bargaining and striking rights. Break up, down size and regulate the big box chain retail outlets.
If anyone has any better suggestions, please let's discuss them.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Aug 28, 2009 7:05 AM
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Going local and switching to mom-and-pop small stores usually results in getting a bigger bang for the buck since quality production comes first over quantity. On the issues of Walmart and Whole Foods and their histories of rigging the competition, it's up to Washington to put the brakes on unfettered capitalism and return to regulated capitalism though I don't see this Congress or White House interested in trying.
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Posted by: clvngodess on Aug 28, 2009 7:34 AM
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Instead, I shop at a local mom and pop grocer that is certified to sell organic produce from a local organic farm with fixed affordable pricing. My local grocer has a mission to bring clean, healthy organic food to the community --as a right, not a privilege. THIS is why I boycott WF. When I spend $25 dollars on produce at my grocer, I come home with many bags of seasonal organic fruits and vegetables. When I spend the same amount at WF, I get nothing. Same thing for Traitor Joes.
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Posted by: SteveA on Aug 28, 2009 7:40 AM
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You can:
Not go there;
Go into competition with them;
Buy from the competition; OR -
Stand on the outside and throw stones like an idiot.
And you chose??
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Posted by: Gravitas on Aug 28, 2009 7:42 AM
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This fat person will be taking most of her business elsewhere. Perhaps he really believes the stereotypes that fat people don't eat healthy so offending them is no risk. Maybe he should look around in his Midwestern stores once in awhile. This is too bad for me because my new place is in walking distance of a WFs. But I never forgive a fat bigot no matter what! So its back to hauling my groceries by bus from Trader Joes who I like much better anyway.
p.s. If Mackey's people are out there reading, one more thing I would like to say. Mackey is hardly attractive himself. If I were him, I would stop commenting on what Americans look like. Someone is liable to turn around and tell him what his appearance reminds them of.
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Posted by: willymack on Aug 28, 2009 9:39 AM
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I've worked at sales jobs, both full and part-time. Almost all those companies had instructional material and training courses which emphasised a "burning desire" for success as a prerequisite for the job. "Sweeping the client off his feet" stated one way or another was another common phrase.
This is the sorry state we find ourselves in today, with markets replacing people. What the "market will bear" is a euphamism for price gouging.
"Acceptable losses" (of people, because of toxic poisoning of the air, water, etc.) is a term bandied about by major polluters.
Acceptance of the fact that there are obscenely wealthy parasites just a few blocks away from the poor is another example of Operation Brainwash, and its allied activity Operation Whitewash.
These are all facets of predatory capitalism.
Howdaya like it, folks?
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Posted by: alturn on Aug 28, 2009 9:42 AM
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I was living in Palo Alto California when it had no Whole Foods but a full-sized grocery store co-op. Amazingly, the co-op did not carry organic foods to any extent nor did it cater at all to vegetarians. It took Whole Foods to open its first store on the west coast there to do what the co-op should have been doing.
So I can understand the benefit Whole Foods brings yet lament that the organic foods movement could not have expanded on the model which first supported it - community based co-ops. In San Diego, that is where I shop and it has far lower prices but not the selection. In a far less commercialized world we would have local decisions made not only for our food but other commodities we purchase, such as a local hardware store (not the current model of hardware co-ops where the central buying unit shoves buying decisions down the throat of local owners). Yet the beauty that comes from diversity still awaits its day - and until then even movements founded upon high ideals will see the Mackeys of the world find ways to profit from them while at the same time changing to bittersweet the nectar contained in the original inspiration.
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Posted by: corpgov on Aug 28, 2009 10:44 AM
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» how about, "unionize the employees and go on strike"?
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Posted by: PaulK on Aug 28, 2009 12:06 PM
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We need grocery stores that don't rob their employees. Whole Foods is quite cheap. At least they don't torture the employees half as much as Wanker-Mart.
We need grocery stores that legally can't be bought up by a monopoly and closed down to extract higher prices from the community. In Europe this corporate structure is called a co-op. In the States a co-op is sometimes called "never heard of it!"
Co-ops almost never close down in recessions. The more co-ops we have, the safer our economy becomes. Local co-ops are steady local jobs.
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Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Aug 28, 2009 12:20 PM
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Their shareholders/owners are a bunch of Texan geriatrics who fly around from here to there on the company tab - and as far as bad vibe, they regularly stock their stores with private detectives in order to keep the underpaid staff from ripping off too many goods.
They really, really should be avoided, in other words. Go to a farmer's market or a locally owned store, not to those guys.
The management structure is just plain weird - really shady, really day-glo. Like scientologists on crack, is the best description. Serious ass kissing and a tightly loyal corporate heirarchy is the norm.
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Posted by: Gitaiba on Aug 28, 2009 3:05 PM
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Posted by: maxsmart on Aug 28, 2009 4:52 PM
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Posted by: GretnaBlast on Aug 28, 2009 6:17 PM
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Taking "liberal" and/or "progessive" and just turning it into outright "conservative." Although taking up millions of square footage by yourself doesn't quite conserve anything, neither does wasting a trillion dollars on toothless "reform."
single payer
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Posted by: profco on Aug 28, 2009 7:47 PM
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Employee morale is low and it is almost impossible to find a sales clerk or stock person who knows anything about the merchandise they are selling, let alone cares enough to be friendly or helpful. There's no Customer Service desk, and overcharging because the shelf price is lower than the computer price that rings up at check-out is a constant problem. I'm so disgusted that I've cut down on the amount of organic produce and products I buy and try instead to shop local.
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Posted by: philosimphy on Aug 28, 2009 9:39 PM
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Posted by: Constance on Aug 29, 2009 9:43 AM
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One farmer I know found his picture on a banner in a distance Whole Foods. He was shocked of course. He also had sold there only once. Don't be romanced by the deceptive images all over their stores.
The good news was that another small independent local grocery has benefited greatly from the ill-will generated by Whole Foods. Constance
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Posted by: foreverhope on Aug 30, 2009 4:55 PM
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Load the car and write the note.
Grab your bag and grab your coat.
Tell the ones that need to know.
We are headed north.
One foot in and one foot back.
But it don’t pay to live like that.
So I cut the ties and I jumped the track.
For never to return.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
When at first I learned to speak.
I used all my words to fight.
With him and her and you and me.
Ahh, but it's just a waste of time.
Yeah it’s such a waste of time.
That woman she’s got eyes that shine.
Like a pair of stolen polished dimes.
She asked to dance I said it’s fine.
I’ll see you in the morning time.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Three words that became hard to say.
I and Love and You.
What you were than I am today.
Look at the things I do.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Dumbed down and numbed by time and age.
You’re dreams that catch the world the cage.
The highway sets the travelers stage.
All exits look the same.
Three words that became hard to say.
I and Love and You.
I and Love and You.
I and Love and You.
Three words that became hard to say...
I and Love and You......................
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