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"Yasser tearfully described that when he reached the top of the steps 'the party began. … They started to put the [muzzle] of the rifle [and] the wood from the broom into [my anus]. They entered my privates from behind.' ... Yasser estimated that he was penetrated five or six times during this initial sodomy incident and saw blood 'all over my feet' through a small hole in the hood covering his eyes." – by Physicians for Human Rights' "Broken Laws, Broken Lives," a report containing firsthand accounts of men who endured torture by U.S. personnel in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantánamo Bay.
Waterboarding. It's all we seem to discuss when comes to American torture. Whenever you see people discussing "enhanced interrogation" on your TV, chances are they'll be throwing around the same tired arguments, all revolving around waterboarding.
Why, of all the things we've done to our suspected (and not-so-suspected) terrorist detainees, is waterboarding the issue? Why confine the rapidly dwindling debate to that single technique? We've engaged in a lot of other practices that qualify universally as torture. Are sleep deprivation or "Palestinian hanging" not controversial enough? Is solitary confinement too mundane?
How about sodomy? Is that something we consider unremarkable?
"This is highly consistent with the events Amir described, including a traumatic injury and subsequent scarring process. Examination of the perianal area showed signs of rectal tearing that are highly consistent with his report of having been sodomized with a broomstick."
-- "Broken Laws, Broken Lives"
That's right; sodomy. Forcible anal penetration. The documentation of this and other forms of sexual humiliation is too extensive to be denied or pawned off on a couple of redneck privates. And we know now that sexual humiliation techniques were among those discussed and approved by the National Security Principals Committee, a White House group including Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, George Tenet and John "History will not judge this kindly" Ashcroft.
I don't want to come off as minimizing the horror of controlled drowning. It's just that there's something about anal rape that brings the torture issue into sharp focus.
Just once, I'd like to hear one of these American Enterprise Institute psychos, the ones that always trot out to defend the neocons' freakish obsessions, have to defend shoving a flashlight up a guy's ass. I want to hear Frank Gaffney or Jonah Goldberg tell me why I shouldn't be fucking mortified that raping prisoners was considered within tolerable interrogation practices by my country. I want Glenn Beck to justify butt-raping a suspect.
The next time I hear some idiot refer to Jack Bauer in defense of torture, I want to ask him what he thinks of Jack Bauer rogering terrorists with a broomstick. You've never seen that in the hours of not-so-subtle pro-torture TV drama we've seen since 2001, have you? Never saw Andy Sipowicz cornhole a skell on NYPD Blue? Or Michael Chiklis on The Shield making a suspect drink his pee? Me neither. Something tells me that might have hurt their ratings.
More from "Broken Laws, Broken Lives":
"He also recalled having been forced to wear soiled underwear, often for weeks or months at a time. 'I had diarrhea and I was in handcuffs. I was making my toilet in my underwear, and I was very dirty. That was very painful.' ... When he asked to see the doctor, he was told 'we brought a medicine to you.'
Laith explains that, in fact, 'They brought to me bottles [of] urine and [they] told me if you do not drink these now, we will bring your mother and sisters. Because I was hearing the voices of women and children, I [believed him and] drank it. I was in handcuffs, and they poured the urine [into my mouth], and sometimes I vomited from that, but when I vomited they kept on pouring [the urine] on my head … I died at that time.' He said that he was forced to drink urine from the soldiers on 11 different occasions."
The key to winning the debate on torture is to eradicate any illusions about just what this was, which is sick, twisted and freakish beyond any usefulness in gathering information. And it becomes very clear in the light of a rectally inserted lightstick.
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Posted by: uncertain on Aug 3, 2009 12:57 AM
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The author states, "I mean, even if we were going to torture them, we could have stuck to waterboarding, pulling some fingernails or just beating the shit out of them."
It's been well documented that the armed forces have been officially employing medical doctors and psychiatrists to aid in "interrogations". Those people aren't there for the well-being of the suspects. They're there so that the suspects can be pushed right to the very edge of sanity and/or death and a medical "professional" can call off the treatment, issue the minimum amount of care, and then order the treatment to begin again. The psychiatrists aren't there so that the suspects have someone to share their feelings with. They're there so that they can administer psychoactive drugs and advise torturers how to most effectively fuck with someone's head.
This is something that's been developed into a science. That didn't happen overnight. All the old methods of torture have been studied, practiced, refined, enhanced with modern technology, perfected, and employed as a matter of procedure. I'm sure there's a team of government researchers somewhere pouring through old texts from medieval times, the Inquisition, old religious texts, Nazi medical records, and whatever other sources, and taking notes on what people did to torture other people and thinking of ways to "improve" on it.
I bet somewhere, there's a fucking instruction manual on how to torture someone, American style.
Can you even imagine the implications? Waking up from the effects of a drug, strapped to a gurney, surrounded by soldiers and doctors, connected to medical monitoring devices, and having people watch and monitor your vital signs while you're tortured so that they can take you to the brink of dying and then nurse you halfway back to health so the torture can start again?
How many hundreds of these suspected terrorists have died while in US custody?
How many do you really think were of natural causes, because of hunger strikes, because of waterboarding or even anal rape?
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Posted by: pfgetty on Aug 3, 2009 2:43 AM
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And yet the media barely even mentioned for years the thousands of foreigners, much like those three Americans, not only being held, but held without anyone knowing who they were, or what they had done, or why they were picked up off the streets.
We are a horrible nation, and a nation that is controlled by a media, in turn controlled by groups with agendas........and we are all so gullible.
We have allowed the attacks of 9/11 to remain uninvestigated, and so we put up with our leaders allowing torture, bombing innocents around the world, all for greedy and immoral agendas that we avoid understanding or even looking into.
While the alternative media will investigate many of our misdeeds, none, NONE, will trespass into the real issues, like the lies of 9/11. Alternet avoids it, Democracy Now avoids it, and so do the rest.
What incredible power the people with these agendas, our leaders, our elites, have over us all. Screw democracy.......we live under total control. They let us debate things like abortion, gay rights, and other social issues that don't impinge on their goals. But we must not ever really question why we are slaughtering and torturing people around the world........we must not expose the lies that allow all of this to happen.
No media venue will go there. Not Alternet or any of the rest.
What is going to become of us?
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» Nice straw man, Sister Nutcase.
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» Conspiracy theorists first reaction is to call a critic a government agent--sans evidence, of course
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» Take a vacation; go to Club Dead.
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» The article's title says toture; thus, I can post my off-topic 911 denier propaganda.
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» PF, what is torture?
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» PFConspiranoid scribbles, "...the lies of 9/11."
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» Hold it! Stop the press! The article's title says sodomize; thus, 911 denier propaganda IS on topic.
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» Don't thank me for insulting you, PFConspiranoid. It was my pleasure. %^)
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» Whatever is eating you must be suffering horribly.
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» RE: You are as dumb as they come, dumber than dog shit
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» "...I was brutally raped at the suggestion of our president." %^)
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» Is this whacko or what? GB really needs to have some intervention, maybe for his own good.
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» You want nutballs, PF? "Scholars" For 911 Truth: The Founding Fathers.
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» RE: Is this whacko or what? GB really needs to have some intervention, maybe for his own good.
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» History matters. So does 9/11 and high school physics
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» Quote mining the NIST Report again?
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» Not understanding the NIST Report again?
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» Wrong again.
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» Advanced Math Degree? You can't even substract...
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» Idiot. You can't do math. Stage 2 was not the longest stage of the collapse.
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» Cracker Jack Math of GuitarBill
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» You've ONLY accounted for 240' of the building; but the building was 741' (226m).
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» Take up the missing floors with NIST
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» So the answer is to make leaps of logic?
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» Munged GuitarBill
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» What do structural engineers know? Let's consult the experts: conspiranoids.
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» Motives, motives, motives
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» Bullshit, bullshit and more bullshit,.
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» Judging books by their covers...
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» Anonymous sources are worthless--and so are you, Max.
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» Your Anonymous sources argument is worthless
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» E. P. Heidner is disinformation and an anonymous source.
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» GuitarBill is disinformation and wrong (again)
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» Lying again, "Left"Rodent?
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» RE: Your Anonymous sources argument is worthless
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» I stand corrected
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» RE: History matters. So does 9/11 and high school physics
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» first-year philosophy versus high school physics
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» Now, you're telling outright lies, Max. The building was 47 stories
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» Advanced Math Degree? You can't even substract...
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» Still working on that reading comprehension thing?
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» You masturbate in the shower so much, you get an erection whenever it rains.
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» Cracker Jack Mathematician doesn't know averages
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» More straw man arguments, jack@$$?
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» Distractions and insults: GuitarBill's MO
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» There you go again. Giving us your opinion and ABSOLUTELY NO MATH.
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» Disinformation warrior wants busy work he'll then ignore
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» RE: first-year philosophy versus high school physics
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» History Major who can't read, research, or do math...
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» You haven't done any physics. All you've done is give us your opinion.
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» Disinformation warrior wants busy work he'll then ignore
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Posted by: The Old Hippie on Aug 3, 2009 2:45 AM
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This “Says It All...” about us.
Reality is what it is, even if it sucks rocks.
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Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Aug 3, 2009 3:56 AM
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If you would have told me that nine years ago that this information would not be shocking to me today, then I would have been shocked. Welcome to our version of 1984.
The only thing I really want to read about is accountability, as that is the only thing that is going to put an end to this insanity and prevent it in the future. And there is no one on the horizon, including the "beloved" Bam Bam, who is unwilling to do anything.
Just that fact that he is looking the other way makes him just as guilty.
The loonies have infiltrated every area of our government. Just read the Family, by Jeff Scharlet.
Checking in on a friend's brother at Ivenwald, a Washington-based fundamentalist group living communally in Arlington, Va., religion and journalism scholar Sharlet finds a sect whose members refer to Manhattan's Ground Zero as "the ruins of secularism"; intrigued, Sharlet accepts on a whim an invitation to stay at Ivenwald.
He finds himself in the stronghold of a widespread "invisible" network, organized into cells much like Ivenwald, and populated by elite, politically ambitious fundamentalists; Sharlet is present when a leader tells a dozen men living there, "You guys are here to learn how to rule the world."
As it turns out, the Family was established in 1935 to oppose FDR's New Deal and the spread of trade unions; since then, it has organized well-attended weekly prayer meetings for members of Congress and annual National Prayer Breakfasts attended by every president since Eisenhower.
Further, the Family's international reach ("almost impossible to overstate") has "forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most oppressive regimes in the world."
In addition see Sharlet's compelling interview on Bill Mahr's program Real Time this past week.
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» Great idea! 911 denier CD-ROMs.
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» When God was throwing intelligence down to the Earth, you were holding an umbrella.
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» This is no battle of wits between you and me. I never pick on an unarmed woman.
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» How many years did it take you to learn how to breathe?
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Posted by: When In Doubt on Aug 3, 2009 4:27 AM
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Apparently the Government and the Military have a substantial supply of these type of men to draw on.
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Posted by: CovertRage on Aug 3, 2009 4:35 AM
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Aug 3, 2009 4:38 AM
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Next time that Islamic terrorist tries to rape his wife or choke her on his pecker, he might reconsider and desist.
I sincerely hope that our servicemen point out that Islamic terrorism of Islamic women is responsible for that sort of treatment, and that they will be taught "how the other half has lived".
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» An eye for an eye
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» RE: You mean the Mormons, Baptists or the Bush family?
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» "Support our troops": 'send condoms'
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» true anti-Semitism
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» The Talmud - Doctrine of Demons
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Posted by: aahpat on Aug 3, 2009 5:15 AM
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Look at the war on drugs. Nonviolent offenders and people afflicted with the disease of addiction are thrown into over-crowded prisons where "tough love" has long been the euphemism for prison gang rape. Tough love is the basis of the deterrent of the drug war criminal justice system.
America has institutionalized sexual depravity as its criminal justice instrument of choice.
The Abner Louima case happened in New York City in 1997. There is nothing new to what our troops are doing today to people around the world. We have been doing it to our children and the least among us, in an institutionalized way, my whole life.
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» Organized religion
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Posted by: teddy on Aug 3, 2009 5:27 AM
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Anyway - you said some things difficult to hear, but they needed to be said and heard. They needed to be expressed as bluntly and as directly as you expressed them.
I'm old enough to remember what American soldiers were like, when they occupied Europe after the war. I remember soldiers on the losing side talking about hoping they'd be captured by Americans and imprisoned in American POW camps because they'd be treated decently there. I remember American military putting on Xmas parties for local children and using their own meager pay to help "enemy" individuals who needed a break. I remember a soldier who gave a mother of two, whose husband was in a POW camp, vitamins for the children; I remember a couple of sweet young soldiers who gave a child their bag of peanuts - sentimental and generous.
What the hell happened??? Did Vietnam break America's moral stamina?
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» No, AIPAC infected congress, now
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» You're talking crap...
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» American treatment of German POWs not exactly what you 'remember' it to be...
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 3, 2009 6:43 AM
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Well, you found you a coon
Tied him to a truck
He was looking at your girl
Yeah, he was looking for a ride
But you showed that bitch, dintcha?
Now tell your story while the others pinch ya
‘'cause now you’re bunkmates with Bubba
Who won’t use no rubba
For the maximum sentence the law would allow
So tell me boys...
Who Da Bitch Now?
Well, you found you a queer
You promised him some head
Drove him out, tied him up, beat him down and left him for dead
"That’s what you get bitch"
Well that’s what you said
You didn’t see it was wrong, no you were only seeing red...
But now you’ll see pinstripes
Bunched around your ankles every night
You’ll get used to it much quicker
If you give up the fight and just allow...
And Who Da Bitch Now?
The irony is plain to see
If you know the definition
You try to be B.M.O.C.
And end up in this position...
You found you a Haitian
Brought him down to the station
You boinked him with a broomstick
As a standard operation
You thought you’d hide your violence
Behind that big blue wall of silence
But now you’re roomin’
With some of the bitches you’ve been broomin’
I applaud the situation, but I wouldn’t take a bow
Just tell me, officer, Who Da Bitch Now?
**"Self-Bootleg" Bonus Verse**
Well this morning's communion went off without a hitch
So you said a benediction and made the alter boy your bitch
The most accursed criminal to hide behind a hymnal
But they hung you like a jury with a tube sock for a rope
The paparazzi waited
For a comment from the pope who just said 'ciao'
And "who da beetch now!"
Perspective.
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Posted by: pinkfloydd on Aug 3, 2009 6:52 AM
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Ask yourselves, just where does the word 'hung' derive? Where did all those ultra white, pointy KKK hats and robes go? Probably to your state House of Rep!
This is our legacy, borne out of slavery and whips and legal human degredation featuring the breeding and selling of human life.
What's a little foreign born torture to the mighty defender of the world's freedoms???
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 3, 2009 6:54 AM
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That these very people used people's very real fear, encouraging it, to justify illegal acts, and their very personal attempt to steal the natural resources of another nation! Wake up people, stop pretending that these CRIMES (for that is what they are) committed in the name of "freedom & democracy" are in any way "the values" that we as a nation should be standing for!!
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 3, 2009 7:40 AM
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Please free US from Israel, its not a relationship at all, its extortion and its made America very sick.
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Posted by: peacekeepertwo on Aug 3, 2009 8:01 AM
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 3, 2009 8:11 AM
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Who wrote this screenplay? Bushcon drove the getaway car while the zionists called shots from the back seat.
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Posted by: Bushmaster on Aug 3, 2009 8:13 AM
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The truth that this was conceived by a group of rational men acting logically is just staggering. I'm sure this was seen as the next logical step in achieving their goals.
The words sickened, ghastly, ghoulish, sadist do not bring out the reality of these acts. Words fail in view of the images revealed.
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» RE: Demand investigations. Demand Justice. That's what we must do.
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Posted by: QQOblivion on Aug 3, 2009 9:33 AM
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And for what? So as to provide false intelligence that helped justify the most unjustifable of wars.
And NO ONE will EVER be held accountable. Even Cheney thinks God loves him, I bet. And why not? Dick has had his most sick fantasies fulfilled.
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Posted by: willymack on Aug 3, 2009 11:29 AM
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The bush dictatorship is truly the gift that keeps on giving.
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Posted by: Archie1954 on Aug 3, 2009 12:38 PM
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Americans because there are so few of them left and they are the opposition to the evil that reigned in Washington.
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» Do you who read this differentiate between Hitler's Nazis and today's Germans? Many Americans don't!
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 3, 2009 1:28 PM
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Posted by: je5752 on Aug 3, 2009 9:11 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianna_Ortiz
The policeman raped me again. Then I was lowered into a pit full of bodies— bodies of children, men, and women, some decapitated, all caked with blood. A few were still alive. I could hear them moaning. Someone was weeping. I didn’t know if it was me or somebody else. A stench of decay rose from the pit. Rats swarmed over the bodies and were dropped onto me as I hung suspended over the pit by the wrists. I passed out and when I came to I was lying on the ground beside the pit, rats all over me.
THIS IS YOUR GOVERNMENT US CITIZENS. It does whatever it wants to whomever it wants. The only thing missing is the Swastika on the flag.
You better get your asses out there to fucking contribute and vote for real candidates like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Adam Kokesh, Dennis Kucinich, and Rand Paul who will END THE MILITARY EMPIRE ABOARD and END THE FINANCIAL EMPIRE (FEDERAL RESERVE + BANKING CARTELS) AT HOME.
The next people our insane government decides to BOMB, TORTURE, AND KILL just might be you.
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Posted by: uncertain on Aug 3, 2009 12:57 AM
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The author states, "I mean, even if we were going to torture them, we could have stuck to waterboarding, pulling some fingernails or just beating the shit out of them."
It's been well documented that the armed forces have been officially employing medical doctors and psychiatrists to aid in "interrogations". Those people aren't there for the well-being of the suspects. They're there so that the suspects can be pushed right to the very edge of sanity and/or death and a medical "professional" can call off the treatment, issue the minimum amount of care, and then order the treatment to begin again. The psychiatrists aren't there so that the suspects have someone to share their feelings with. They're there so that they can administer psychoactive drugs and advise torturers how to most effectively fuck with someone's head.
This is something that's been developed into a science. That didn't happen overnight. All the old methods of torture have been studied, practiced, refined, enhanced with modern technology, perfected, and employed as a matter of procedure. I'm sure there's a team of government researchers somewhere pouring through old texts from medieval times, the Inquisition, old religious texts, Nazi medical records, and whatever other sources, and taking notes on what people did to torture other people and thinking of ways to "improve" on it.
I bet somewhere, there's a fucking instruction manual on how to torture someone, American style.
Can you even imagine the implications? Waking up from the effects of a drug, strapped to a gurney, surrounded by soldiers and doctors, connected to medical monitoring devices, and having people watch and monitor your vital signs while you're tortured so that they can take you to the brink of dying and then nurse you halfway back to health so the torture can start again?
How many hundreds of these suspected terrorists have died while in US custody?
How many do you really think were of natural causes, because of hunger strikes, because of waterboarding or even anal rape?
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Posted by: pfgetty on Aug 3, 2009 2:43 AM
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And yet the media barely even mentioned for years the thousands of foreigners, much like those three Americans, not only being held, but held without anyone knowing who they were, or what they had done, or why they were picked up off the streets.
We are a horrible nation, and a nation that is controlled by a media, in turn controlled by groups with agendas........and we are all so gullible.
We have allowed the attacks of 9/11 to remain uninvestigated, and so we put up with our leaders allowing torture, bombing innocents around the world, all for greedy and immoral agendas that we avoid understanding or even looking into.
While the alternative media will investigate many of our misdeeds, none, NONE, will trespass into the real issues, like the lies of 9/11. Alternet avoids it, Democracy Now avoids it, and so do the rest.
What incredible power the people with these agendas, our leaders, our elites, have over us all. Screw democracy.......we live under total control. They let us debate things like abortion, gay rights, and other social issues that don't impinge on their goals. But we must not ever really question why we are slaughtering and torturing people around the world........we must not expose the lies that allow all of this to happen.
No media venue will go there. Not Alternet or any of the rest.
What is going to become of us?
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» Nice straw man, Sister Nutcase.
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» Conspiracy theorists first reaction is to call a critic a government agent--sans evidence, of course
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» Take a vacation; go to Club Dead.
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» The article's title says toture; thus, I can post my off-topic 911 denier propaganda.
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» PF, what is torture?
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» PFConspiranoid scribbles, "...the lies of 9/11."
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» Hold it! Stop the press! The article's title says sodomize; thus, 911 denier propaganda IS on topic.
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» Don't thank me for insulting you, PFConspiranoid. It was my pleasure. %^)
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» Whatever is eating you must be suffering horribly.
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» "...I was brutally raped at the suggestion of our president." %^)
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» Is this whacko or what? GB really needs to have some intervention, maybe for his own good.
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» You want nutballs, PF? "Scholars" For 911 Truth: The Founding Fathers.
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» RE: Is this whacko or what? GB really needs to have some intervention, maybe for his own good.
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» History matters. So does 9/11 and high school physics
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» Quote mining the NIST Report again?
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» Not understanding the NIST Report again?
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» Wrong again.
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» Advanced Math Degree? You can't even substract...
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» Idiot. You can't do math. Stage 2 was not the longest stage of the collapse.
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» Cracker Jack Math of GuitarBill
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» You've ONLY accounted for 240' of the building; but the building was 741' (226m).
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» Take up the missing floors with NIST
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» So the answer is to make leaps of logic?
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» Munged GuitarBill
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» What do structural engineers know? Let's consult the experts: conspiranoids.
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» Motives, motives, motives
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» Bullshit, bullshit and more bullshit,.
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» Judging books by their covers...
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» Anonymous sources are worthless--and so are you, Max.
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» Your Anonymous sources argument is worthless
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» E. P. Heidner is disinformation and an anonymous source.
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» GuitarBill is disinformation and wrong (again)
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» Lying again, "Left"Rodent?
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» I stand corrected
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» RE: History matters. So does 9/11 and high school physics
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» first-year philosophy versus high school physics
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» Now, you're telling outright lies, Max. The building was 47 stories
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» Advanced Math Degree? You can't even substract...
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» Still working on that reading comprehension thing?
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» You masturbate in the shower so much, you get an erection whenever it rains.
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» Cracker Jack Mathematician doesn't know averages
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» More straw man arguments, jack@$$?
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» Distractions and insults: GuitarBill's MO
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» There you go again. Giving us your opinion and ABSOLUTELY NO MATH.
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» Disinformation warrior wants busy work he'll then ignore
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» RE: first-year philosophy versus high school physics
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» History Major who can't read, research, or do math...
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» You haven't done any physics. All you've done is give us your opinion.
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» Disinformation warrior wants busy work he'll then ignore
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Posted by: The Old Hippie on Aug 3, 2009 2:45 AM
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This “Says It All...” about us.
Reality is what it is, even if it sucks rocks.
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Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Aug 3, 2009 3:56 AM
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If you would have told me that nine years ago that this information would not be shocking to me today, then I would have been shocked. Welcome to our version of 1984.
The only thing I really want to read about is accountability, as that is the only thing that is going to put an end to this insanity and prevent it in the future. And there is no one on the horizon, including the "beloved" Bam Bam, who is unwilling to do anything.
Just that fact that he is looking the other way makes him just as guilty.
The loonies have infiltrated every area of our government. Just read the Family, by Jeff Scharlet.
Checking in on a friend's brother at Ivenwald, a Washington-based fundamentalist group living communally in Arlington, Va., religion and journalism scholar Sharlet finds a sect whose members refer to Manhattan's Ground Zero as "the ruins of secularism"; intrigued, Sharlet accepts on a whim an invitation to stay at Ivenwald.
He finds himself in the stronghold of a widespread "invisible" network, organized into cells much like Ivenwald, and populated by elite, politically ambitious fundamentalists; Sharlet is present when a leader tells a dozen men living there, "You guys are here to learn how to rule the world."
As it turns out, the Family was established in 1935 to oppose FDR's New Deal and the spread of trade unions; since then, it has organized well-attended weekly prayer meetings for members of Congress and annual National Prayer Breakfasts attended by every president since Eisenhower.
Further, the Family's international reach ("almost impossible to overstate") has "forged relationships between the U.S. government and some of the most oppressive regimes in the world."
In addition see Sharlet's compelling interview on Bill Mahr's program Real Time this past week.
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» Great idea! 911 denier CD-ROMs.
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Apparently the Government and the Military have a substantial supply of these type of men to draw on.
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Next time that Islamic terrorist tries to rape his wife or choke her on his pecker, he might reconsider and desist.
I sincerely hope that our servicemen point out that Islamic terrorism of Islamic women is responsible for that sort of treatment, and that they will be taught "how the other half has lived".
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Posted by: aahpat on Aug 3, 2009 5:15 AM
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Look at the war on drugs. Nonviolent offenders and people afflicted with the disease of addiction are thrown into over-crowded prisons where "tough love" has long been the euphemism for prison gang rape. Tough love is the basis of the deterrent of the drug war criminal justice system.
America has institutionalized sexual depravity as its criminal justice instrument of choice.
The Abner Louima case happened in New York City in 1997. There is nothing new to what our troops are doing today to people around the world. We have been doing it to our children and the least among us, in an institutionalized way, my whole life.
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Posted by: teddy on Aug 3, 2009 5:27 AM
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Anyway - you said some things difficult to hear, but they needed to be said and heard. They needed to be expressed as bluntly and as directly as you expressed them.
I'm old enough to remember what American soldiers were like, when they occupied Europe after the war. I remember soldiers on the losing side talking about hoping they'd be captured by Americans and imprisoned in American POW camps because they'd be treated decently there. I remember American military putting on Xmas parties for local children and using their own meager pay to help "enemy" individuals who needed a break. I remember a soldier who gave a mother of two, whose husband was in a POW camp, vitamins for the children; I remember a couple of sweet young soldiers who gave a child their bag of peanuts - sentimental and generous.
What the hell happened??? Did Vietnam break America's moral stamina?
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 3, 2009 6:43 AM
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Well, you found you a coon
Tied him to a truck
He was looking at your girl
Yeah, he was looking for a ride
But you showed that bitch, dintcha?
Now tell your story while the others pinch ya
‘'cause now you’re bunkmates with Bubba
Who won’t use no rubba
For the maximum sentence the law would allow
So tell me boys...
Who Da Bitch Now?
Well, you found you a queer
You promised him some head
Drove him out, tied him up, beat him down and left him for dead
"That’s what you get bitch"
Well that’s what you said
You didn’t see it was wrong, no you were only seeing red...
But now you’ll see pinstripes
Bunched around your ankles every night
You’ll get used to it much quicker
If you give up the fight and just allow...
And Who Da Bitch Now?
The irony is plain to see
If you know the definition
You try to be B.M.O.C.
And end up in this position...
You found you a Haitian
Brought him down to the station
You boinked him with a broomstick
As a standard operation
You thought you’d hide your violence
Behind that big blue wall of silence
But now you’re roomin’
With some of the bitches you’ve been broomin’
I applaud the situation, but I wouldn’t take a bow
Just tell me, officer, Who Da Bitch Now?
**"Self-Bootleg" Bonus Verse**
Well this morning's communion went off without a hitch
So you said a benediction and made the alter boy your bitch
The most accursed criminal to hide behind a hymnal
But they hung you like a jury with a tube sock for a rope
The paparazzi waited
For a comment from the pope who just said 'ciao'
And "who da beetch now!"
Perspective.
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Posted by: pinkfloydd on Aug 3, 2009 6:52 AM
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Ask yourselves, just where does the word 'hung' derive? Where did all those ultra white, pointy KKK hats and robes go? Probably to your state House of Rep!
This is our legacy, borne out of slavery and whips and legal human degredation featuring the breeding and selling of human life.
What's a little foreign born torture to the mighty defender of the world's freedoms???
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That these very people used people's very real fear, encouraging it, to justify illegal acts, and their very personal attempt to steal the natural resources of another nation! Wake up people, stop pretending that these CRIMES (for that is what they are) committed in the name of "freedom & democracy" are in any way "the values" that we as a nation should be standing for!!
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 3, 2009 7:40 AM
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Please free US from Israel, its not a relationship at all, its extortion and its made America very sick.
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Who wrote this screenplay? Bushcon drove the getaway car while the zionists called shots from the back seat.
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The truth that this was conceived by a group of rational men acting logically is just staggering. I'm sure this was seen as the next logical step in achieving their goals.
The words sickened, ghastly, ghoulish, sadist do not bring out the reality of these acts. Words fail in view of the images revealed.
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Posted by: QQOblivion on Aug 3, 2009 9:33 AM
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And for what? So as to provide false intelligence that helped justify the most unjustifable of wars.
And NO ONE will EVER be held accountable. Even Cheney thinks God loves him, I bet. And why not? Dick has had his most sick fantasies fulfilled.
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Posted by: willymack on Aug 3, 2009 11:29 AM
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The bush dictatorship is truly the gift that keeps on giving.
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Posted by: Archie1954 on Aug 3, 2009 12:38 PM
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Americans because there are so few of them left and they are the opposition to the evil that reigned in Washington.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianna_Ortiz
The policeman raped me again. Then I was lowered into a pit full of bodies— bodies of children, men, and women, some decapitated, all caked with blood. A few were still alive. I could hear them moaning. Someone was weeping. I didn’t know if it was me or somebody else. A stench of decay rose from the pit. Rats swarmed over the bodies and were dropped onto me as I hung suspended over the pit by the wrists. I passed out and when I came to I was lying on the ground beside the pit, rats all over me.
THIS IS YOUR GOVERNMENT US CITIZENS. It does whatever it wants to whomever it wants. The only thing missing is the Swastika on the flag.
You better get your asses out there to fucking contribute and vote for real candidates like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Adam Kokesh, Dennis Kucinich, and Rand Paul who will END THE MILITARY EMPIRE ABOARD and END THE FINANCIAL EMPIRE (FEDERAL RESERVE + BANKING CARTELS) AT HOME.
The next people our insane government decides to BOMB, TORTURE, AND KILL just might be you.
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Posted by: JohnHKennedy Denver CO on Aug 4, 2009 1:43 PM
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SIGN THE PETITIONS
Demanding
both a Commission of Inquiry
and a Special Prosecutor
For All Their Crimes
at
ANGRYVOTERS.ORG
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Posted by: Beastly on Aug 6, 2009 4:15 PM
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» RE: Wow. What a bunch of tools you all are.
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Posted by: gw on Aug 8, 2009 11:06 PM
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» RE: What's all the fuss?
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